I Don't Believe You Are Using That Word Correctly
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 9:55 AM MST
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Many of you saw this linked in Bub's NW Check In column, but I thought I'd highlight it separately. Over at Hockey Wilderness, our old friend Bryan Reynolds is at it again. He's already shown us his unabashed love for Adrian Dater. Now, he's taken aim at Peter Forsberg.
This week's main drama has centered around an overage athlete attempting to come back to the professional game after having walked away. In Minnesota, the first name that comes to mind is Brett Favre. In Colorado, it is Peter Forsberg. While both of those men, and their inability to let it go, are despicable, this for once is not about them.
Since the piece wasn't about Forsberg, we weren't graced with Bryan's explanation as to why he finds Forsberg despicable or why he feels it warranted to lump Forsberg in with Captain Penis Crocs. I can only assume that Reynolds has grown tired of Forsberg's numerous comeback attempts and has somehow drawn a parallel to the running drama that has been Brett Favre.
It's a lousy parallel. Brett Favre has retired, un-retired, waffled on retiring and manipulated his retirement to force an opportunity to play for the chief rival of his long-time team. All ridiculous, and that's before any discussion of the sexual harrassment allegations.
Peter Forsberg has never wavered, never been unclear. He wants to play and has wanted to play this entire time. He was not on the sidelines waiting to decide if he really felt like going for one more year nor did he delay to pick a team that would give him the best chance at another Stanley Cup. He was waiting to see if his surgically repaired foot would ever become stable enough to let him do what he loves: playing hockey. No waffling here. His teammates didn't have to fly to his house to get him to make up his freaking mind about one more season. Peter Forsberg is nothing like Brett Favre.
The ability to play hockey at a high level is something so many of us can only dream of. And, despite the injuries, Forsberg played pretty darn well the last time he attempted to play - something Minnesota fans of all people should be aware of. If Forsberg still wants to try to play, still has that fire and desire to compete in the NHL, why would ANYONE call that despicable? Cut the guy some slack, dude. The man is just trying to play hockey. Where's the harm in that?
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There’s gotta be some mistake…damn…HA, I FOUND IT!
We was waiting to see if his surgically repaired foot […]
That should say ‘He’, this article is wrong.
AVS. HEALTHY. WHEN.
by StiflersMom on Jan 25, 2011 10:04 AM MST up reply actions
well, we was waiting!
fixed.I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 10:08 AM MST up reply actions
Very well put DDC
Although if I were in his shoes and Foppa was trying to join a divisional rival team, I’d be shiting my pants as well.
Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer.
by smoky201 on Jan 25, 2011 10:04 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
And DDC was kind enough to point out that it is in fact Reynold’s own shit that he is presumably sitting in and which stinks, and not Forsberg’s.
by MalachiConstant on Jan 25, 2011 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
centered around an overage athlete attempting to come back
What the hell does that mean? Does he mean average? Or over-age? Or maybe Peter’s electricity bill has some overages on it?
I think this guy puts a bit too much stock in Puck Daddy to be honest. Yesterday I found this article (a Lambert piece, not Wysh), with quite a nasty piece on Foppa: saw it linked in another thread here but here it is. Basically the argument is since Forsberg hasn’t played in a while, he shouldn’t play now. It’s ridiculous. Sounds like good old Bryan is getting an exercise in confirmation bias if you ask me.
THE RIGHT NUMBER OF MEN ON THE ICE ALL GAME. WHEN.
So if guys like Lappy, Mueller, Savard, or any others sit out 1-2, heaven forbid, 3 seasons before their concussions/health allow them to play again, at that time they should just give up and hang up their skates? The whole idea is insane. And it’s not like Foppa has been sitting on the couch, he did play 20+ games last season in Sweden as well as 4 games in the Olympics. If Foppa thinks he is healthy enough to return to the NHL then so be it!
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Jan 25, 2011 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
You know, I made this post because I thought Lambert had called this “despicable” too. Not so much, it turns out. Never actually says that word. I do believe BR when he said on the Wilderness that he hadn’t read the piece given that they don’t use the same language.
THE RIGHT NUMBER OF MEN ON THE ICE ALL GAME. WHEN.
I have less issue with Lambert only because he doesn’t try to draw the Favre connection. At least with Lambert he’s calling his shot. When Forsberg proves him wrong you can rub it in his face for getting it wrong. This is an infinitely more (journalistically) brave stance than waiting to see how he does and THEN doing a story about how he’s a washout/distraction etc…
The Favre thing on the other hand is totally off base.
It cannot be shown that luck actually exists, hence luck is nothing more than a word used by one in a self delusional assumption of understanding events of which one is informed or which one witnesses. As such, it is a word which superstitious people use to simultaneously presume to have insight into events and, paradoxically, to cease efforts to understand the causes and effects of those same events.
Exactly.
Kindly reference my siggy for full details.
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
Wonder how they’ll feel when Foppa puts up some points against em?
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 10:25 AM MST reply actions
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I don’t see why other people are getting het up by this. This is an Avs/Peter Forsberg thing. Why Bryan Reynolds and that geezer off Puck Daddy are getting their knickers in a twist, I don’t know.
Forsberg has never retired and the fact that he has never given up on the dream of playing in the NHL again should show people how determined he is. That’s a good quality in my book.
My opinion is worth about what you paid for it: Nothing.
People, for some reason, blame Foppa because the media press the panic button everytime he’s on the ice somewhere (yeah, I’m trying to avoid typing Örnsköldsvik…damn) looking if his ankle still works. He didn’t even talk about coming to Denver to practice with a NHL team, he just appeared and did what he wants: play hockey.
AVS. HEALTHY. WHEN.
by StiflersMom on Jan 25, 2011 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
I hope that Bryan has a blu-ray player so he can watch movies when the playoffs start.
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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 10:35 AM MST reply actions 17 recs
a few times
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
This fucking guy is the blog version of Kiszla. A hack’s a hack, no matter where you write your stuff.
Finally, I wanna thank God, because God gave me this Dundie. And I feel God in this Chili's tonight.
by Dan Winkler on Jan 25, 2011 10:37 AM MST reply actions
Sick of the Favre thing
When Dater did the Brett Favre strikeout meme on his post about Forsberg, I almost removed him from my feeds. There is zero comparison, as others here have said. And Dater of all people should acknowledge his own responsibility in making this a circus (but thanks for the videos, AD!)
Forsberg is why I love hockey and he hope he plays. If some of the league want to dismiss or disrespect him, then fine. But we know it’s because they are scared he might actually come back and make a difference to our team.
As others have correctly said, comparing Foppa to the nameless one is asinine and infuriating. STOP. DOING. IT.
Forever grateful that Joe Sakic isn't a raging dick hole like Brett Favre.
by Rather Dashing on Jan 25, 2011 11:55 AM MST reply actions
Maybe im biased with Forsberg being one of my all time favs but he can do whatever the hell he wants..he played 23 games with Modo last year this is not a guy that can’t make up his mind (Favre) this is a not a guy getting offered boat loads of money from different teams while wanting to retire (Sundin) this is a guy that wholeheartedly thinks he can still play..Sundin had 28 pts in 41 games, I’m not sure what sort of pt total Foppa would get if he does return but i will say he will have a bigger impact than Sundin
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I’m disappointed by the lack of Sylvester the Cat in the comments section.
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by MalachiConstant on Jan 25, 2011 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
Although would the love affair end for any of you if Forsberg goes elsewhere in the NHL to play?
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
well 1st off, i really dont think thats an option at all, i dont see him going elsewhere but yes, i would still love Foppa. I just want him to get to play again. You have to feel for the guy, his pain and how hard he’s tried to come back, if he gets to play, here or elsewhere all ill feel is happy for him
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 12:12 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I would be saddened, but also happy just to see him play again. I would dearly hope that if he absolutely, positively had to play elsewhere and disappoint everyone in the room… that it would be for a an Eastern team.
by AvInVancouver on Jan 25, 2011 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
Did it end when he played for Philly or Nashville? For me it did not, but damn him for ending that great run that the Avs and Budaj were on at the end of the 06-07 season.
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Jan 25, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
Oh I know, I’m just saying, everyone is assuming that if he plays it’s 100% for the Avs, and right now that’s an unknown. All I’m saying
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
I think the fact that he’s skating with the Avs is a sign of who he’s leaning towards playing with….but you’re right he could possibly try to go elsewhere.
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Jan 25, 2011 4:29 PM MST up reply actions
The more I read the envious hate of others, the happier I am to see Forsberg skating with the Avs. It’s now down to two things, either Forsberg’s glorious return, or a bunch of dick-holes saying “I told you so.” Please, Howard, let it be the former.
I just don’t understand how Forsberg’s interest is playing hockey brings out the total douche in so many people who have access to a keyboard. He’s not hurting a single god-damned soul by doing this.
"I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later." -- M.H.
by Dixomatic on Jan 25, 2011 12:05 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, Forsberg is JUST like Farve.
He publicly announced his retirement from the Avs, then changed his mind a month later, but the Avs had already signed away his cap space. Forsberg found this to be low and dishonest, and instead he went to play for the Blues. He had a decidedly ‘meh’ season and sold a lot of Blues Foppa jerseys, but he decided that his foot was twizzlated enough that he had had enough. The Blues held a retirement ceremony for him, terminating his contract, and making a hoopla about him retiring as a Blue. But not to worry, he then had surgery and decided that he would start working out again. The Detroit Dead Things then extended a hand to him, feeling that their roster had too many youngsters on it. He emphatically told everyone that he was still retired, but was just testing things out. But suddenly, he signed with Detoilet for reasons unfathomable. He then played against his old club and his old fanbase for two years, mulling third and fourth retirements along the way, and steadily declining until he was able to just stand there between the circles and wander a bit to each side, hoping that the other guys on his team would help him out.
Yup. Exact same.
Thanks Joe...
by mfured20 on Jan 25, 2011 12:45 PM MST reply actions 18 recs
This is why we're friends.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 1:04 PM MST up reply actions
Preach the truth sister…
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Matt Duchene... better at being Pavel Datsyuk than Pavel Datsyuk...
Had he stayed healty, he would have over 1,000 points
Forsberg, Bure, Lindros, Kariya, Roberts all had their careers shortned by injuries, but all deserve to be in the Hall of Fame
by The Last Shall Become First on Jan 25, 2011 12:47 PM MST reply actions
fixxxxed
Had he stayed healty, he would have over1,0001,500 points
by Brett Shumway on Jan 25, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
I’m sure all six members at the Hockey wilderness feel the same way as Bryan.
Hriscay Oddamngay Other-fuckingmay Ewartstay. Ownay.
still butthurt over that last playoff series eh?
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:06 PM MST up reply actions
Budaj in net wednesday, and Foppa apparently skating today at left wing with Jones and Dutchie
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:05 PM MST reply actions
the St Louis announcers seemed to think Forsberg would be signed by the next time St Louis plays the Avs…which would be the first game after the All-Star Break
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 1:09 PM MST up reply actions
signed maybe, but i dont think he’ll play that soon. I thought the Minnesota game after the break was a fair prediction
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:10 PM MST up reply actions
It would make sense to let him practice with the team the rest of the week, work out during the AS break, and get something done by the end of it. It just makes sense to me.
Thanks Joe...
agreed, the big question will be whether or not foppa flies to STL to continue skating with the team or not
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:11 PM MST up reply actions
I would say yes.
But not for the ‘working out’ part, but as a team comraderie [sp?] reinforcement. If you are joining a team and hope to play with them every day for the next couple years, you take the plane if you can to spend time with them and develop rapport. For this same reason, I expect that as Mueller / Flash get closer, they will start travelling with the team too. That sort of thing happened with Cumiskey… he went on road trips more than a week before he actually cracked the lineup again. Could have been just for practice, but I think its more adaptation to the team lifestyle again.
Thanks Joe...
good point, i think if he goes to stl it will give us a pretty clear timetable for him getting on the ice
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
also, John Kelly said that Eric Lacroix said it may not be possible for Forsberg’s work visas and stuff clear in time to play in Stl. Which means someone is thinking about it
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 1:23 PM MST up reply actions
Definitely means they are already strongly considering it.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 1:43 PM MST up reply actions
also, John Kelly said that Eric Lacroix said….
Forsberg is totally going to take Josephine to the prom, even though Jackie totally wants to go and JAckie and Josephine are like BFFs
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 25, 2011 4:01 PM MST up reply actions
After thinking about it for approximately 2 seconds after posting this, It was probably not the best of judgment to write.
Although I’m not backtracking on any of the words, these words are unnecessary, and a moment of better discretion probably would have had me not saying anything at all.
I apologize for the harsh words.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 25, 2011 4:33 PM MST up reply actions
Damnit
need. Sleep
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 25, 2011 4:34 PM MST up reply actions
Sleep now, brother. In a little while you’ll be getting NO. SLEEP. AT. ALL.
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
don’t backtrack. I thought the same thing when I typed it
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 4:46 PM MST up reply actions
Any trade discussions with my friends i usually bring up the Lindros deal so I must it’s kind of nice to have that story relevant again…greatest trade of all time!
Behind Enemy Lines
For the Avs….
Though it’s a toss up between the Foppa and the Roy trades as to which was the greatest.
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Jan 25, 2011 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
My 2 cents.
Foppa’s could have been considered somewhat even (if Lindros and Foppa had played the same amount of games) , but the fact that the Nords were handcuffed into trading him and were able to get that deal is un-freaking-believable.
But I think the Roy trade was better, especially since they got Keane .
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 1:57 PM MST up reply actions
Excellent stuff.
I have nothing to add that hasn’t already been tossed out there.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Yandle added to ASG roster. He definitely deserves it, wish they’d show duke and liles some love though
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:18 PM MST reply actions
Looks like you guys are having a good ol' time over here.
Here is my rebuttal:
http://www.hockeywilderness.com/2011/1/25/1955605/called-out-over-sir-flops-a-lot-deal
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ha, do your research man. WE dont like Adrian Dater much at all, your credibility is out the window immediately
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
that’s a lot of words. are there any cliff notes available?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Synopsis?: someone didnt love Reynolds as a child, he’s bitter over the last playoff series between us, and he’s jealous that his pathetic excuse of a team has never had a player even close to the caliber of foppa
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
seriously, we don’t need to get nasty about it
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
my bad. tough day
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
but there was this:
The comment section of the post over at MHH is awesome. The pure quantity of asinine stupidity and over reraching assumptions is shocking. Let’s take a look at some of my favorites:
followed by a breakdown of each of our comments, he’s just trolling. i will feed him no more
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
Just remember
this is the same dude who called out a certain Wings blog as the reason blogging isn’t taken seriously.
From one troll to another, I give him props. He’s good at what he does.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
I need advise…
Join THW and comment over there (hopefully without being trollish), or just say what I want to say over here.
What does blog etiquette say?
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well apparently he’s watching this thread very carefully, so im sure you’ll be seen if you put it here
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:43 PM MST up reply actions
Plus, I’d hate for my comment to get lost in the flood of supporting comments he has coming in over there.
Hriscay Oddamngay Other-fuckingmay Ewartstay. Ownay.
then just post a huge picture of foppa holding lord stanley, theyve never seen one of those over there
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
Unless someone went to Dallas to see one, that is. Dallas, Texas …. more deserving of a Stanley Cup than Minnesota. Why does Howard toy with those poor folks so much?
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 1:57 PM MST up reply actions
Are you sure there isn’t some Freudian revelation about his jealousy of our purity or our quantity.
Size does matter after all.
Hunwick- Twice as good as Holos when seen through the (extremely) narrow lens of takeways!
You’re right, size does matter.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 26, 2011 9:35 AM MST up reply actions
Basically, his argument is:
1. He doesn’t like Forsberg because he’s a flopper. (Subject to debate, but I think it’s BS…there are a lot of other, more questionable things about Foppa’s game to hate him for)
2. He doesn’t like players making a mid-season comeback.
Re: 1. It’s a debate of subjectivity, and I’m not gonna get into that.
Re 2. The timing of Forsberg’s comebacks have been purely coincidental. He’s been skating in Sweden, testing his foot and trying to get comfortable. That’s been the story every year, and he only comes over to North America when he feels he might be able to compete at a high level again. If that had happened in the fall, Foppa woulda been here in the fall. It happened in January. So be it.
Another note: I really dislike how Reynolds uses the word despicable then defends it because he thinks Foppa’s effect on Avs fans is despicable.
He has raised the hope of the fans in Colorado more times than I can count, only to then either back off or sign somewhere else.
First, the only time Forsberg has signed elsewhere in the NHL is when the Avs didn’t have the cash to sign him. So, get your facts straight…that wasn’t part of a comeback. Second, unless Reynolds is an Avs fan, I don’t think he should be speaking for our emotional state of being.
by Stazz21 on Jan 25, 2011 1:45 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Since you brought it up, very well said by the way, I wanted to add:
raised the hope of the fans in Colorado more times than I can count
Dude, you can’t count to three?
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by Paul X on Jan 25, 2011 1:47 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, you can’t count to three?
He’s a Wild fan. Scoreboard doesn’t go that high.
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
by Hopfenkopf on Jan 25, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions 9 recs
zing, and rec’d
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 1:56 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah
That part bothered me. He basically tries to sympathize with us and make us out to be victims. Yeah. We’re the victim, bro. Of Forsberg wanting to play for our team. Kidding me?
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
being a Wild fan is hard
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
Yep on that last part. Pure revisionist history there. The only time he signed with another NHL team was after PL lowballed the hell out of him and essentially let him walk. 1.5M per for one of the best players in the game? Riiiiiiiight. Then he was traded to Nashville. Since then he’s tried coming back here. I don’t see much factual basis in the guy’s hatred of Foppa. But maybe he’s just a big Cluttercoward fan?
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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 1:49 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Not that PL had much choice. They thought they were going to get away with certain bonuses to Sakic and Blake because the were signed before the lockout and the CB. They did not, and if I remember correctly they had 3mil with which to sign both Foote and Foppa. So they split the difference….I don’t blame Foppa nor Foote for leaving. I don’t really blame the organization for not seeing what was coming either….
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Jan 25, 2011 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
Exactly how I feel about that. But I have to say I was incredibly thrilled when they both came back to the Avs.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
I’m always happy to see a guy who WANTS to play, play. On any given night, any given game between two teams, there is always a couple of guys that seem to coast, and are just there. Sometimes they are benched, sometimes they aren’t. Sometimes they get called out, sometimes they don’t. But there are very, very few guys that I see given the same effort every single night. Guys that will literally play until they can’t move. Foppa, to me, is one of those guys.
He doesn’t need the money, whatever money he didn’t make with his hockey career he made with the sales of Crocs. He does it because he loves the freaking game. Quite frankly, having watched his skating recently, he is still freaking good!
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
He has raised the
hope ofStanley Cup for the fans in Colorado more times thanI can count,any team in Minnesota ever.
Fixed it for ya, BR, ya butthurt jackwagon troll.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
by TheRed on Jan 25, 2011 2:11 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Fixed it for ya, BR, ya butthurt jackwagon troll
Classy.
Editor:Hockey Wilderness Assistant Editor:SBN Minnesota Owner: Komissaari erämaa
Rule #17: You may not impersonate representatives of Hockey Wilderness and handout NHL themed wrist bands.
Yup, that’s how I roll, along with most of the rest of the intertubz.
Had I come to your blog I would have just copy and pasted the very sanely written post that is elsewhere in this thread basically shooting down your entire premise. I also would have admired your admission that Forsberg is A HOF’er. But when you come to this blog and tell us we’re stupid for rooting (even cautiously) for one of the most revered players to ever play here, I’m going to throw insults.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
Fair enough. Thank you for being honest. Forgive me if I am now done with you.
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Rule #17: You may not impersonate representatives of Hockey Wilderness and handout NHL themed wrist bands.
I bet your were my 14th rec!
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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
SO you are giving us a rebuttal on DDC’s rebuttal… oh boy, this could get out of hand.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
I can see way too many buttals coming out of this.
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
and they would like a rebuttal to the rebuttal of the rebuttal.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
But can you do a rebuttal of their rebuttal to our rebuttal, to his rebuttal, to our rebuttal to his article?
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
I do not like Peter Forsberg, and never have. He is a pansy and a cheater.
Holy shit lol. Used a battery pack to keep his foot tense enough to support his skating, which must have been painful given that it led to groin injuries. What a frickin pantywaist amirite?
This debate is the most entertaining part of the comeback so far. Thanks BR.
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No problem.
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Rebuttal
You’re a whining, judgmental, self-righteous, moralizing crybaby who manipulates the facts to fit your own moral outrage. Your opinion long ago lost any credibility with me, about the same time you were adding context to games you hadn’t seen.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 25, 2011 4:12 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
After thinking about it for approximately 2 seconds after posting this, It was probably not the best of judgment to write.
Although I’m not backtacking on any of the words, these words are unecessary, and a moment of better discretion probably would have had me not saying anything at all.
I apologize for the harsh words.
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 25, 2011 4:34 PM MST up reply actions
You’re entitled to your opinions, like everyone else, but when you casually drop the word “despicable,” like a dog owner who refuses to pick up his dog’s steaming pile of crap, then it’s annoying. Oh, and the Brett Favre comparison was just asinine.
Congrats on being “edgy” and “controversial.”
Finally, I wanna thank God, because God gave me this Dundie. And I feel God in this Chili's tonight.
by Dan Winkler on Jan 25, 2011 4:53 PM MST up reply actions
Are there any arguments against me
that don’t have to do with me being a Wild fan? I’m really not sure what that has to do with anything.
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Half of what you wrote is false?
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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 2:07 PM MST up reply actions
It is? And you figure that how?
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OK, I’m done with you now. Can Bob and I have a big boy talk now? Thanks.
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Seriously? Basically you are calling us idiots, and yet you want us to have a “debate”. You wrote an article, we disagreed. In fact, SDTF is one of those here who is very reserved (for lack of a better word) about his return.
The rest of us are cautiously optimistic about his return and I think you’ll be hard pressed to find one person here who thinks that Forsberg will play 100% of the games, at 100% of what he used to be.
You have an opinion, I have my own, others on MHH have theirs. That’s absolutely fine, can we please do it with some respect?
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
I called some of the comments stupid. I never called anyone an idiot.
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See. This is silly.
You hide behind “opinion” and “I never called anyone an idiot”. Maybe you never called anyone an idiot but saying you’re done with someone and it’s time for the big boys to talk is just as insulting. DDC posted an article calling you out. You posted an article calling MHH out. Since then, you’ve waited around impatiently for us to come storming your blog with hate. We’ve stayed here, so you’ve had to come on over here and continue going after us with a decreasing level of respect. You want to have a reasonable discussion, that’s fine. But you can’t sit on your blog and mock MHH for pointing out your inability to type words their correctly spelled form and then come over here and nitpick about being an ass and saying “I never called anyone an idiot!”. Knock it off.
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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
When someone throws the name calling out, yeah, I’m done with them.
I left my blog because no one commented. I came here. I wasn’t waiting, I was surprised. I apologize for being surprised. I mocked one person’s comments for lying their argument at the feet of a typo. It’s stupid.
Nitpicking or not, it is true I never called anyone an idiot. Stupid comments, sure. The people? Nope.
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Just a sample:
He is not delaying to see which team gives him the best shot at the Cup? Really? I don’t see him skating with the Islanders. He must feel he has a chance to do something in Colorado, or he wouldn’t be there. Same thing he has done during the past attempts at a return. Philly? Nashville? Colorado? All teams either in, or pushing for a playoff spot when he came to them.
Colorado, according to oddsmakers quoted on Behind the Net has a 2.2% chance of winning the Cup, tied for 15th out of 30 NHL teams. Not exactly your lead pipe cinch. Might it be because this is the franchise with which he spent ten of his 12 NHL seasons and with which he won 2 Cups in the past? Probably not, he’s probably just bandwagoning.
Foppa signed with PHI in the OFFSEASON before ‘05-’06 when the cap bit COL in the ass. He was then TRADED to NSH by PHI later that season. Don’t believe me? You’re right, the NHL is probably lying.
If you don’t like a player, that’s one thing, but perhaps you shouldn’t, you know, make shit up.
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
Ill have the adult conversation. Where we take issue for the most part is your assumption that we have been hurt by Forsberg, have some of his comebacks been disappointing? Yes, but you would be hard pressed to find an Avs fan who feels negatively about Forsberg or his career. In his last comeback he scored 14 points in 9 games, (8 points in 8 games against the Wild) not a number to shrug at. Numbers aside he played with a battery pack and electrodes strapped to his foot because the guy loves this sport so much that he would try anything to make it good enough to play. I dont see what is “despicable” about that at all. You call Forsberg’s character into question for trying to come back to the game he loves, but not forcing teams to commit to him until he knows he is in good enough health to do so. I dont understand how it would be more “just” for him to sign a contract and sit on the sidelines while he gets surgery and rehab and other treatment on the injuries. You said:
It isn’t a matter of hurting anyone, it is a matter of respect for yourself, and for the game. He is giving the league, himself, and the game a black eye by being unable to admit it is over.
By not signing those contracts, by not stringing teams along all season Forsberg has done nothing but respect the game and himself. The times he hasnt played have been SPECIFICALLY because he doesnt feel he can play hockey he’s proud of, he has said time and again that he wont play if he cant do it at a level he wants, seems he’s answered exactly your criticism.
That said, we understand that he is not the old Forsberg, but he’s a positive influence on the team, and a guy who still demonstrated skill and jump at practice. We welcome him to the team if he’s healthy and that alone is enough to discount almost every point your post made about the Avs being “hurt or toyed with by Foppa.” We welcome him with open arms, and as such I dont understand how it affects you as a fan of the sport, it has nothing to do with your team. Only a great player trying, in the most honest and conservative way possible to return to the game he loves. Dont discount me from “the big boy talk” again troll
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 5 recs
Ill have the adult conversation.
Too late.
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i appreciate your rebuttle
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:47 PM MST up reply actions
No one going to jump on your friend here for making a typo? No? Didn’t think so.
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your irrelevance amazes me
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
We’d be here all day. Canucklehead has the taint of the frozen north on him. We give him a pass.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
thanks Mike, im down in the states now though so BR is right, no excuse for my typo, clearly my long specific response above has lost all validity
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
Weak.
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Let's take your responses and apply!
“Classy”
“Well argued!”
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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
Again. The comments.
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Why?
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1. Because it’s annoying.
2. Because it wa a great way to work in another Princess Bride reference. Love those.
Horton Hears a Holøs.
TYPO YOUR POINT IS MOOT!
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:54 PM MST up reply actions
Most of the situations, I see what you're saying
about attacking the comments and not the people. But this time, I don’t understand its application. I’m just taking EXACTLY what you’ve said in response to very similar comments and applying it to you.
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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:53 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
So you can insult us on our your blog, insult us here on our blog, then say its the comments not the people? And that you’re through with us although you continue to post? Haha, can’t make this up. I’ma get some popcorn and settle in.
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by TheRed on Jan 25, 2011 2:53 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Show me where I insulted a person, and not a comment, and I will declare you the winner.
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Nit. Picking.
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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
So be it. That’s where the argument went, I followed.
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Following into the abyss you rip?
Classy!
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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:57 PM MST up reply actions
these seem to be the only arguments you follow. the substantive ones? you completely dismiss and ignore
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions
By reading it.
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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 2:09 PM MST up reply actions
That wasn’t the question. Which parts are false, and where is the proof they are false? The entire piece is opinion, so how can it be factually inaccurate? Opinion is not fact.
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I’m pretty sure that’s a picture of a leprechaun and a turkey, but it makes me think of Johnnie Walker and how much I want to go home right now to my liquor cabinet
by MalachiConstant on Jan 25, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
Indeed. Don’t feed the leprechauns.
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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
Listen.
I don’t mind your trollish post on your own place in the cyberspace. I enjoyed reading it enough. But coming over here and further trying to poke a stick through the fence is pretty blatant.
Word of advice: Next time you’re trying to provoke a fan base, try not to make 75% of your all too long-winded post completely insane. It’s tough for any of us to muster up the strength to wander over, tear down your post piece by piece and then enjoy your heightened response. Most of us seem to be happy over here in our friendly confines pointing and laughing at the kid over there with the unzipped fly.
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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:11 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Which is fine, stay over there and point and laugh. I haven’t done much of anything to provoke name calling and accusations of trolling. I responded to a post that was directed at me. I am simply defending my position. Hostile territory or not, doesn’t matter to me.
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You have to make sense, and preferably right up fron, when you are trying to make a point. for instance:
I used his constant ability to rile up a fan base with the promise of a come back, and that of Brett Favre, to show that players who are past their prime need to hang ’em up and call it a career.
Half the damned league – hell, half or more of professional athletes are past their prime. Give ’em the hook! When you just blurt out things as unqualified as that, you kind of lose credibility for the whole piece. Be. More. Careful. Genius
Horton Hears a Holøs.
But they all play the entire season. Or, more specifically, are under contract for the entire season.
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so your saying he would be a better person if he sat around injured and took money from the team, than waiting to make sure he’s physically fit?
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
He's saying Forsberg needs to take his ball and go home.
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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:18 PM MST up reply actions
Indeed.
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and by the way….
Forty minutes and no one has anything to say? Huh. I thought they might have a counter argument for some of this. Guess not.
Your rebuttal “argument”, which I consider, and you make no claim otherwise, to be complete opinion does not make me want to join your blog just to tell you I disagree.
Hriscay Oddamngay Other-fuckingmay Ewartstay. Ownay.
Oh, snap. Please, let me beg you to press a button to join another blog. You opinion matters so much to me, let me convince SBN to allow comments with “joining my blog.”
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My question exactly. Hey, GMs, load up your roster (and budget) with guys that “might” play. Wild fans will be happy then.
Horton Hears a Holøs.
Again, tis has nothing to do with being a Wild fan. Can we drop that. This is me, not “wild fans.”
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I am, but this is not a collective group. Just me. Maybe some others agree, maybe they don’t, but this is not some vast conspiracy of Wild fans attacking Forsberg. Just me. Not sure what my loyalties have anything to do with it.
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Well, it might have a little something to do with where and for whom you write. And, I don’t know, your sig, where you cite your affiliation with Hockey Wilderness and SBN Minnesota. There’s a whole lot of “I am writing as a Wild Fan” in all of that.
I get your point, but when you write at Hockey Wilderness – just like when anyone writes here – you are associated with it. And it is perfectly permissible to use it against you just as snarkily as we please.
Horton Hears a Holøs.
I never said I wasn’t a fan. What I do not get is how it has anything to do with it. If I were a Philly fan, or a Rags fan, would it change things?
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Counter, If I wasn’t an Avs fan and still wanted to see Forsberg play in an Avs jersey, does that change my point in your opinion?
I bet you’d immediately remove the words irrational, etc. from your comments on my opinion.
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No it doesn’t. My point is that Forsberg should not play anywhere. He is done. That has nothing to do with team affiliation. I do not feel all Avs fans are irrational, and I defy you to show me where I did.
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Foppa is going to sell a lot of tickets for the Avs. Something, sadly, they need pretty badly.
I think a lot of fans in Denver feel the same way I do, in that it’s not about Peter helping the team raise the cup again, or even about Peter playing at 100%. It’s about me as a kid, sitting in front of my parents’ tv in awe of Foppa. It’s just about seeing him put on an Avs sweater again.
If Forsberg pulls an Yzerman and drops to the bottom lines, I don’t care. The fans and the younger players on the Avs are well-served just by his presence.
The guy is doing no disservice to me by coming back. In fact, on a day after losing yet another top LW to a potentially career ending injury amidst an embarrassing losing streak, Forsberg made me as giddy as a school girl just by showing up to the practice arena to hang out.
by MalachiConstant on Jan 25, 2011 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
Could he not do the same thing as a coach?
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Because that worked so well with Phoenix?
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
The comment section of the post over at MHH is awesome. The pure quantity of asinine stupidity and over reraching assumptions is shocking. …:
You’re right, we’re not irrational. We’re asinine, stupid, over-reaching and awesome.
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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 25, 2011 2:45 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Again, the comments. Not. The. People. Can you not see there is a difference there?
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Comments don’t exist in a void, as they are physical manifestations of opinions, which you so clearly value in and of themselves.
If I make an irrational comment, am I not then irrational?
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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 25, 2011 2:52 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Not necessarily. Unless you assign so much of your self definition to the comments you make. Then I just feel sorry for you.
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I dunno about you
But pretty much anytime I make a comment it’s a reflection of me as a person. I can see where you make the argument of “It’s a stupid comment but that doesn’t mean you’re stupid”. I get that and all but really, all we have in the blogosphere is our handle and the words we attach to them. If someone is attacking one, they’re typically attacking the other. Surely you can understand this, right?
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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:54 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
No sir, I cannot. I do not assign my self-definition, in any way, to my comments on a blog. Call my comment stupid, I do not take it as you calling me stupid.
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It’s still insulting. You may not be calling the person stupid, but you’re calling something he/she created stupid. That’s an insult. I do not understand why you can’t see that.
As I teacher, I would never allow one student to say another student’s writing is stupid. Why not? Because it is an insulting way to criticize someone. Say the comment is illogical, biased, poorly written, whatever. But using derogatory terms makes it an insult.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 25, 2011 8:06 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Isn’t that exactly what you did with your opinion though?
Honestly, the only beef I have for your post was the Favre comparison. It’s thinly-veiled and constructed like a balsa wood rocket.
Forsberg has never denied that he wants to play but was only limited by his physical abilities due to foot issues. He sought several different medical procedures to correct said issues. None of the previous ones took. Perhaps this one has. He’s taken a methodical, practical approach to his rehab by limiting his competition level and number of games played. He’s also taken the extra step of not signing in Sweden so that his waiver/contract status in the NHL would be more fluid.
He’s always expressed his desire to play a few more seasons in the NHL. Forsberg has never announced a retirement, or even a hiatus to consider one. He’s been disappointed in the failure of previous treatments and expressed regret that they didn’t’ work and that each successive failure increased the likelihood that he’d have to hang ‘em. up. Dater ONCE, MISTAKENLY announced a retirement announcement, but that’s as close as it has ever come. He’s never strung the fan-base along. He’s never held out for multiple suitors, he’s never sat out to improve a salary cap situation for his chosen team (Neids), and he has never promised anything other than having conversations with the Avs as his various rehabs have advanced.
I don’t see the similarities between him and Favre at all. I just don’t see what you see. And I think that that opinion is as clouded by my uber-hatred of all things Favre as much as you seem to dislike Forsberg.
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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 25, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Your comments are absolutely idiotic. Now respect me for not calling you an idiot.
THE RIGHT NUMBER OF MEN ON THE ICE ALL GAME. WHEN.
I will. I can accept that you feel my comments are idiotic.
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This is not an attack (just to make sure you knew), but why does it really matter to you if he tries or not? The only people affected by this are Avs fans, the organization and the team. Fans are cool with it: 200 people at practice on Sunday and easily 75 people or more today in the middle of a weekday. The team is cool with it: every player interviewed has said they’d love to have him on the team, but just the experience they’re having with him in practices has been invaluable. The organization is cool with it: Sherman and Sacco have both said they welcomed him and are impressed with what he’s already showing. So why does it bother you? If it’s the media swarm…umm, don’t read the articles.
And FWIW, I’ve been to both practices so far and he’s playing better than some of the kids. He’s also out there early and stays til the zamboni guy kicks him off the ice. He’s skating as hard as our best skaters and beating many of them. His shots and passes are as wicked as ever. And this is only two morning skates and two full practices in. Also, FWIW, he’s made it clear it’s going to be less than 2 weeks before he makes the decision. The original plan was about 10 days, but it’s sounding more like it will happen over the ASB. How is that dragging things out? He’s also said up front that this is not a comeback right now; this is testing his body. Why can’t everyone take his word for it that he’s just testing his body?? It’s silly.
Oh, and saying comments are stupid IS insulting the person who wrote them…because HE/SHE WROTE THEM.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 25, 2011 8:01 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
so your saying he would be a better person if he sat around injured and took money from the team,
Kind of like Gaborik and the Wild then?
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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
Gaborik still has a career
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And what, you get to decide that Forsberg does not?
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by Andykrist on Jan 25, 2011 2:22 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
His career is over. He is 37 years old, injured, and has tried this before. That’s the point.
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and last time he tried he had 14 points in 9 games and 5 in 7 playoff games. Where is the negative impact of an over a ppg player?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
9 games is hardly a valid sample
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That was what? Three years ago? No promise it happens again. Plus, that was after he only played in the regular season for about a month. Like a relief pitcher, of course he was going to do well.
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We know theres no promise, but as we’ve said multiple times, his practices have looked good enough that he can still make a positive impact
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
We thought the same thing about Petr Sykora
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ok…. i dont see the relevance, 2 different players, 2 different ceilings on their career 2 different teams and different fits
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
Just saying, practice and game are very very different
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Agreed, and its definitely a risk, but we dont lose anything by letting him play, so its a small risk to take
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
But all it will ultimately do is cause a distraction for the Avs
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Yes they are going to be distracted by a stud joining the lineup, as opposed to the glut of AHL’ers they have covering their injured top 6 guys now. Riiiiight.
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It surely distracted them three seasons ago when they proceeded to knock the Wild out of the playoffs and then lost to the redwings while playing a sick goalie, and having lost 1/3rd or more of their offensive corps to injury.
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Jan 25, 2011 4:50 PM MST up reply actions
See, that's the debate.
We had it over here just yesterday. Read that. Thanks.
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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:55 PM MST up reply actions
it is a fair concern. But the last 2 practices have been very focused, the players enjoy having him around and thats enough for me
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
What distraction? He has added an indescribable element to practices. I WATCH THEM. You don’t. He works with other players on puck possession – to test himself. The beauty is how much the players are learning from it. They already look better.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 25, 2011 8:16 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Why do we need a “promise” in order to enjoy the fact he’s skating with our team to see how he feels? Why do you? He has not once said he IS coming back. He has only said he’d like to (what player plagued with injuries having to face the end of a career before he’s ready wouldn’t?) and that as this is the best he’s felt in 7 years, he’s going to test things out. Who are you to question his health and whatever kind of promise that does or does not bring?
And FWIW (again) he has already made an impact on the team. It’s clear from watching him in practice – which is something you have not done nor do not have access to. I have done it and I do have access. I plan on being at every one of those practices if I can. And trust me, he looks a helluva lot better than for which you’re giving him credit.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 25, 2011 8:14 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
injured
Please, correct me if I’m wrong, but you don’t know that he’s injured. Perhaps you have inside information, but that’s what this conditioning stint is all about: to ascertain if he is or is not in fact injured. If he’s not injured, does that make it more reasonable that he try?
has tried this before
When has he come back to the NHL to try to return? He signed with the Avs in the 07-08 season and was a major part in them making the playoffs and beating some team in a decisive fashion. I can’t remember what team that was. Do you know? /sorry, snark out. Anyway, this is the first time he has come to North America and skated with a team to determine if he would be able to play or not. His time in Europe has nothing to do with comeback attempts. You don’t know his frame of mind. Maybe he just wanted to play some hockey.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 25, 2011 8:11 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
my rec goes here
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
I also don’t get to decide, no. But I do get to point and laugh at the old man as he tries it.
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That’s mighty big of you. Classy, in fact.
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by Dan Winkler on Jan 25, 2011 5:14 PM MST up reply actions
Gaborik is a joke, too. My feelings on him are clear.
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Everyone but Avs fans know his career should be over, take the hint.
He tried to comeback, he couldn’t, so he said he would not go back to the NHL. He’s been struggling lately, so what makes him think he can magically come back now, and be the player he used to be?
Also, I don’t get why this isn’t like what Brett Favre’s been doing for the last 2398376 years, the only difference is that Foppa hasn’t been doing it quite as long as Favre.
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so he said he would not go back to the NHL
You calling that a fact?
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From wikipedia
For most of the 2007–08 season, Forsberg was an unrestricted free agent and said that he would not return to the NHL.
So… yeah
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citing wikipedia eh?
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
Better than making stuff up
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Right. Don’t counter the argument, don’t prove Forsberg never said it. Just attack the source.
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Right. Don’tcountersupport the argument, don’t prove Forsbergneversaid it. Just attack the source.
Fixed.
Horton Hears a Holøs.
I tire of your game. Anything new to add?
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i like how you just dismiss people, always a good tactic
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:31 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Wikipedia isn't always wrong you know.
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And prostitutes aren’t always disease filled, but you really wanna roll with the odds?
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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 25, 2011 2:31 PM MST up reply actions 5 recs
Mike You rock! You just made me giggle!
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
Right, like that has anything to do with anything
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An information source that anyone can edit? It’s kinda like reading a book where people have crossed out the text and written in the margins.
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You can't just edit anything willy-nilly you know
Changes have to be approved by the administrators. Besides, why would anyone lie about that?
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I’m not saying someone would lie about it, but when Forsberg left in ‘08 it would be very easy to say he was calling it quits and have that turn into – "He said he’s calling it quits"
Hriscay Oddamngay Other-fuckingmay Ewartstay. Ownay.
From the strangest source
Peter Forsberg’s intention is to play in the NHL this season, as he has turned down signing with Modo. Forsberg has told his agent Don Baizley that he may negotiate with NHL teams.
Horton Hears a Holøs.
by Andykrist on Jan 25, 2011 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The trouble isn’t so much that wikipedia is the source, so much as context.
by MalachiConstant on Jan 25, 2011 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
This is SO not true. I edited, without approval, my ex-boyfriend’s page (he’s kinda famous and all) because someone said he went to HS in Tennessee when he actually went to HS in California. Just sayin…
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 25, 2011 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
Oh, deets ? (not here obvs ;) )
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 8:21 PM MST up reply actions
Oh my, this just went completely over my head. What the heck are you saying my love?
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 25, 2011 8:40 PM MST up reply actions
Give me details ;) Just not on MHH. Hahahaah
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 8:42 PM MST up reply actions
We wanna know about the famous boyfriend too…..
Or, do we?
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Pffft
Too bad! ;)
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 8:45 PM MST up reply actions
I lived in So Cal. He’s in the movie biz.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 26, 2011 10:05 AM MST up reply actions
obviously, it’s George Hamilton
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 26, 2011 10:12 AM MST up reply actions
SHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Gah, DDC. Can’t trust you with any secret.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 26, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
Here I thought it was Johnny Knoxville.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 26, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
So what if he said it?
Maybe he felt that way at the time, and maybe he’s since changed his mind. It happens. He’s not the first person to change his mind about something, and he won’t be the last.
Finally, I wanna thank God, because God gave me this Dundie. And I feel God in this Chili's tonight.
by Dan Winkler on Jan 25, 2011 5:17 PM MST up reply actions
You prove it. Not by citing Wikipedia, but by providing a link to the actual quote.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 25, 2011 8:18 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
At the rest of that paragraph says…..“He had surgery on his foot and was waiting to see if he was in condition to play. He would probably play for one of his former three clubs. On February 25, 2008, Forsberg signed a contract with the Colorado Avalanche for the rest of the 2007–08 season”
so no really admittance of retirement, and since we’re in the business of quoting wikipedia
“On August 14, 2010, Forsberg announced he was not optimistic about returning to hockey, hinting he may retire”
Even as of August 14th 2010 he hadn’t given up and officially retired
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by Suitcase on Jan 25, 2011 3:20 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Not to discredit the authority of wikipedia, but
Perhaps, just perhaps, if Forsberg had ever stated he was retiring and was done with the NHL, a certain jersey may be hanging in the rafters of the Pepsi Center? And if you want to ignore the argument of whether he’s earned that, perhaps another Avs player would be have worn No. 21 since he left?
Perhaps he would have been inducted into the Avs’ Alumni Club already before such comparable athletes as Alexei Gusarov and Sylvan Lefevbre?
After seeing all that was done for Roy and Sakic’s retirement, you’d think that the organization would do something for Forsberg, instead of absolutely nothing.
The Avs organization has never acted as if Forsberg was a retired player. And that continues with them allowing him to skate with the team to see if he can give it a go.
But yeah, you’re probably right. One of the Avs’ best players of all time was totally retired, and the organ-i-zation just totally forgot about honoring his time with the club in the manor they did so many other former players.
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by Dixomatic on Jan 25, 2011 3:42 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Cool story but
manor
You meant “manner,” argument invalid.
THE RIGHT NUMBER OF MEN ON THE ICE ALL GAME. WHEN.
i guess this ruins our BUDAJ IS THE SUXXXORZ ARGUMENT
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:55 PM MST up reply actions
Not return…until he was physically able. He has NEVER maintained that he would NEVER return. As fans who devour every bit of Avs info, I think we’d know it if he had.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 25, 2011 8:17 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I disagree with this. I believe (just my belief) that half the NHL would love a half season of old Foppa.
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so what makes him think he can magically come back now, and be the player he used to be?
What makes other people think that he can’t? Why do you and others think you can assess the situation better than the only person who feels the ankle? The only people who can at least somewhat answer that question now are Foppa himself and his doctors. It’s his ankle, if he thinks he can still play some NHL hockey and loves doing that, let him try.
AVS. HEALTHY. WHEN.
He's an athlete
Every single athlete I know will want to play despite an injury. Even if he feels it’s 100%, it will never be 100%, so he’s likely to end up hurting himself again. This isn’t the same NHL it was 5 years ago, it’s faster, larger, stronger. He will never be the good old Foppa, live with it.
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we know that. He’s not going to jump in and win a Hart Trophy, but after watching him at practice, it was clear he can make a positive impact on the team
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:25 PM MST up reply actions
He will never be the good old Foppa, live with it.
Of course he won’t. That’s what everybody at MHH says.
But isn’t it still his decision? It’s his ankle, it’s his health. If he’s willed to possibly ruin his leg even more just to play some hockey, isn’t that impressive? Isn’t that what people want to hear nowadays when so many players seem to be on the ice for nothing but the money? Why does it matter to you what’s gonna happen to him in 5-10 years? Even if his leg has to be amputated one day because of this, it’s his leg and it was his decision to take the risk.
Nobody forces him to do it, why do people want to stop him?
AVS. HEALTHY. WHEN.
Injury or not, if he thinks he can play and a team wants to take a chance on him then so be it. Nobody was screaming so loudly about Gordie Howe playing hockey until he was 70. Sure it was in the minor leagues, but he still played in the NHL until he was 43, and then made a come back and played 80 games at the age of 52. Considering that Gordie had “officially” retired form the game I guess he’s no better than Favre and that he’s a disgrace to the sport as well.
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Jan 25, 2011 5:15 PM MST up reply actions
An argument against you that doesn't have anything to do with you being a Wild fan:
Basically, his argument is:
1. He doesn’t like Forsberg because he’s a flopper. (Subject to debate, but I think it’s BS…there are a lot of other, more questionable things about Foppa’s game to hate him for)
2. He doesn’t like players making a mid-season comeback.
Re: 1. It’s a debate of subjectivity, and I’m not gonna get into that.
Re 2. The timing of Forsberg’s comebacks have been purely coincidental. He’s been skating in Sweden, testing his foot and trying to get comfortable. That’s been the story every year, and he only comes over to North America when he feels he might be able to compete at a high level again. If that had happened in the fall, Foppa woulda been here in the fall. It happened in January. So be it.
Another note: I really dislike how Reynolds uses the word despicable then defends it because he thinks Foppa’s effect on Avs fans is despicable.
He has raised the hope of the fans in Colorado more times than I can count, only to then either back off or sign somewhere else.First, the only time Forsberg has signed elsewhere in the NHL is when the Avs didn’t have the cash to sign him. So, get your facts straight…that wasn’t part of a comeback. Second, unless Reynolds is an Avs fan, I don’t think he should be speaking for our emotional state of being.
There ya go. But feel free to ignore it like you did previously.
Oh, and another...
Just a sample:
He is not delaying to see which team gives him the best shot at the Cup? Really? I don’t see him skating with the Islanders. He must feel he has a chance to do something in Colorado, or he wouldn’t be there. Same thing he has done during the past attempts at a return. Philly? Nashville? Colorado? All teams either in, or pushing for a playoff spot when he came to them.
Colorado, according to oddsmakers quoted on Behind the Net has a 2.2% chance of winning the Cup, tied for 15th out of 30 NHL teams. Not exactly your lead pipe cinch. Might it be because this is the franchise with which he spent ten of his 12 NHL seasons and with which he won 2 Cups in the past? Probably not, he’s probably just bandwagoning.
Foppa signed with PHI in the OFFSEASON before ‘05-’06 when the cap bit COL in the ass. He was then TRADED to NSH by PHI later that season. Don’t believe me? You’re right, the NHL is probably lying.
If you don’t like a player, that’s one thing, but perhaps you shouldn’t, you know, make shit up.
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
by Hopfenkopf on Jan 25, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
Here's one...
The wings suck.
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I know. If I continue to shake my head at this, it will fall off…
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Hahaha
Me too… but this is so much more entertaining than studying for my financial management exam.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
I am only watching the game …. controlling it.
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
This is dumb.
The guy is clearly trolling. If his rebuttal post didn’t make that obvious enough, him coming over here looking for more attention and then claiming our opinions don’t matter to him should just about eliminate any doubt.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
Did I say your opinions don’t matter? Please show me where. I came here because I was being roasted and wanted to offer my defense. I do not care if you never read my words or not. However, I generally do not like being attacked without speaking up. Thus, the reason I am here.
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Oh, snap. Please, let me beg you to press a button to join another blog. You opinion matters so much to me, let me convince SBN to allow comments with "joining my blog."
by BReynolds on Jan 25, 2011 2:23 PM MST
Again with the nitpicking. Can’t troll a troll, dude.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
Bubs, you know I adore you... you need to be closer and we need to have cheesecake and cupcakes.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
Delicious!
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
It sure is… I’m actually thinking of trying to make cheesecake cupcakes!
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
Can I test them for you? Those sound very appealing.
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Jan 25, 2011 5:17 PM MST up reply actions
I haven’t figured out how I’m going to do them. And you are a tad far.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 5:19 PM MST up reply actions
if you have them figured out by friday, i will be in (location left out for your benafit) visiting my brother.
just saying.
by some white guy on Jan 25, 2011 6:55 PM MST up reply actions
Ask me closer to the date, shoot me off an e-mail. I’ll let you know if they get made by then.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
Well, you aren’t a creeper, right?
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 8:08 PM MST up reply actions
Not all that surprsing, but it is really hard to come up with a sarcast comment that doesn’t scream ‘CREEPER!’.
by some white guy on Jan 25, 2011 8:16 PM MST up reply actions
Hahaha, that's probably true.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 8:19 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t get it…
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 26, 2011 8:38 AM MST up reply actions
I’m guessing that is a creeper from the minecraft game
which may or may not mean anything to you
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 26, 2011 9:19 AM MST up reply actions
you need to be closer and we need to have cheesecake and cupcakes.
I sense the rise of a new meme!
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
What? Is it the French thing?
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
No. We all wait with baited breath to get a look at your “cupcakes” every day.
Now that cheesecake is involved, the mini-golf filled subtext is undeniable!
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
Bwahahaha, are cupcakes that powerful?
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
i can only imagine the impact of cheesecake
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
It was a bad translation in The Illiad.
It wasn’t Helen’s face that launched a thousand ships, it was her cupcakes!
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
Hahahahaaha
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:47 PM MST up reply actions
Oh, dude.
You should see the mayhem of the last two weeks on the Facebooks. Cheesecake for everyone!
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
It’s been awesome!
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:41 PM MST up reply actions
It's been terrible!
I’ve never had a harder time grocery shopping. It’s tougher to resist more epic cheesecakezilla pictures than it is to resist buying Mountain Dew now. Raaaaahhh!
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
Just give in, Sweets.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:47 PM MST up reply actions
You're a bad influence!
No Mountain Dew for over 3 weeks now. We’re nearing a month, actually. Yikes!
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
Wow!
Look at you go!
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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t care if it is nitpicking. The guy complained about a system I have nothing to do with. Comment or don’t, I don’t care. I’m here. I came to you, since pushing the button to “join” was too much work.
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OK, explain it to me then. The original post was that they weren’t going to join the blog to comment. I’m hurt. Really I am.
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No, the original post quoted you as saying…
Forty minutes and no one has anything to say? Huh. I thought they might have a counter argument for some of this. Guess not.
Which begs the question, why wouldn’t MHHers go over there. I didn’t comment, because I don’t want to join your blog.
Hriscay Oddamngay Other-fuckingmay Ewartstay. Ownay.
I love this..good job MHH’ers for staying away from BR’s vitriolic hate fillied anti- Forsberg postings on his Wild Blog. Obviously he is just looking to rack a bunch of hits over there.
Let him come over here and defend his indefensible position.
Such a sad little man to think he can try to become somebody by tearing down another. It’s not about Forsberg, It’s not about the Avs. BR just wants people to pay attention to him and in order to do that he writes outrageous garbage to rile people up hoping they will make his blog more popular by commenting.
Become someone by tearing down someone else? Where did I say I was trying to become someone? I was respnding to a post from MHH to clarify my position. I really could not care less if you pay attention to me or not. Nothing to do with riling anyone up or not. Thank you so much for assigning your motives to my words.
I am here. Defending my position.
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I am here. Defending my position.
Really? It looks a lot like you are “Clutterbucking”, which comes from Andykrist, and means throwing cheap shots then backing away with your hands up. I only define it because I wouldn’t think a Wild fan could recognize it for what it is.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I love how people here laugh at Clutterbuck
When they’ve had guys like Claude Lemieux and Darcy Tucker on their roster
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Ummmmmm,
the Tucker hate on this blog is unparalleled by any from the supporters of any other team.
Fuck Darcy Tucker. He cost us Andrew Brunette. You’re welcome. Bastards.
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
by Hopfenkopf on Jan 25, 2011 2:48 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I get Lemieux, won’t argue you on that one. But the Tucker the Avs had was a shadow of his Leaf self.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
Tucker? haha. He was the whipping boy for everything that went wrong the seasons he was here. Hell, I still wonder when someone falls over if they took skating lessons from him.
And I personally, am not a fan of Lemieux.
Unless you know us, please don’t generalize like that.
maybe an internet pipe froze and burst
mwuahaha
by Uziel on Jan 25, 2011 2:49 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
You assume we're all huge fans of every player we've ever had?
This blog’s community has routinely ripped both players you mention.
That said, I’m the biggest Clutterbuck fan on this blog. He was my boy when he was on the Aeros.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
Did not assume that
It’s just that Clutterbuck is nowhere near as dirty and cowardly as those guys were.
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It’s just that Clutterbuck is nowhere near as dirty and cowardly as those guys were.
Yet….
Hriscay Oddamngay Other-fuckingmay Ewartstay. Ownay.
yet what?
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Clutterbuck is nowhere near as dirty and cowardly … yet. But give him time.
by AvInVancouver on Jan 25, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
Yet Dater says he is a coward, so he must be.
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Dater is not thought of real fondly around here, either.
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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:55 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Aw com’on, he’s a nice guy. Just a little slow.
by MalachiConstant on Jan 25, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
careful of assumptions. Clutterbuck bugs the shit out of me when we play the Wild. The rest of the time I think of him as an excellent agitator (which by nature includes some borderline hits/talk etc.)
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
Just wondering if you would think Clutterbuck were such a coward if he weren't playing for your hated Wild.
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Honestly
We tend to call it like it is here. We would support the hell out of him, but if he deserved criticism, he would get it. In huge, sarcastic spades.
Horton Hears a Holøs.
MHH’ers tend to tear into Avalanche players pretty good when they deserve it. Dangerous hits, we call them like we see it. In fact, I’d say we, in general, pick on the Avs as much as any other players, if not more. there are always whipping boys. And they get torn into deservedly or not.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:55 PM MST up reply actions
I blame this entire conversation on Hunwick
by MalachiConstant on Jan 25, 2011 2:57 PM MST up reply actions 4 recs
Seriously
If only he could play defense, he would have successfully defended the castle from the invasion of the Wild Troll and the villagers wouldn’t be taking up arms. Damn you, Matt Hunwick. Damn you.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:59 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
You’ll be here all week? I should try the fish?
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
I hear it goes well with cupcakes for dessert.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions
cheesecake too?
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions
Of course, it’s delicious.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
EVERYTHING
goes well with cupcakes for dessert!
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
Is Hunwick a fish? Or is the fish a Hunwick? And why hasn’t Hensick scored 45 goals already?
AVS. HEALTHY. WHEN.
And why hasn’t Hensick scored 45 goals already?
the blues couldnt get svats machine as his linemate
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
We're the same over at Hockey Wilderness
When someone does something that is not ok, we won’t be very happy with them, but Clutterbuck has never done anything dangerous, and he can throw down the gloves when he needs to. The criticism coming from here is clearly because Clutterbuck annoys the crap out of you, so he’s doing his job, but he is not a dirty player, never has been, so you’re only saying he is because you don’t like him and that’s wrong.
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I agree with you here for the most part. But every agitator does some dirty things, its in the job description
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
Forsberg isn’t finished and you’re only saying he is because you don’t like him and that’s wrong.
by AvInVancouver on Jan 25, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
When did I ever say I didn't like him?
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Forgive me for making the huge deductive leap but
1. You came here to defend someone who said:
I do not like Peter Forsberg, and never have. He is a pansy and a cheater.
2. You’re saying Foppa should hang them up even if he and Avs management think he is able to play. Why would you do that if you liked him? Fear?
by AvInVancouver on Jan 26, 2011 5:00 PM MST up reply actions
The criticism coming from here is clearly because Clutterbuck annoys the crap out of you,
How can you say that? You don’t know our minds. Maybe we (Wild fans and Avs fans) have different opinions on what is dangerous and/or dirty and what isn’t. Honestly, at least we call it like it is with Lemieux and Tucker. And FWIW, so do they about themselves. Clutterbuck? Not so much, And I think he has been dangerous. Not often, but he has. (BTW, we’re not the ones comparing him to guys like Lemieux and Tucker, who have been dangerous many times in their careers. You – or your boy – have)
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 25, 2011 8:31 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes. Even if he played here i would. If we got Matt Cooke, I would say that. We had Brad May ffs, and he was despised around here. Next argument please.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
Brad May got booed, regularly.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 2:57 PM MST up reply actions
I booed May loudly when he was an Av. He’s the only Av I’ve ever booed while he was wearing our jersey.
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
I love how people here laugh at Clutterbuck When they’ve had guys like Claude Lemieux
Fucking rights we did, I suggest you check his playoff record, and then check Clutterbuck’s. Only one of those gentlemen is a winner.
Claude Lemieux is the most underrated hockey player of all time.
by Blunts4Breakfast on Jan 25, 2011 6:45 PM MST up reply actions
Right, because they have played an equal amount of games in their NHL careers
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I’d bet my son’s college fund that Clutterbuck will never sniff half the games at a high level (playoff contender, playoff contributor, Cup Champion) that Lemieux has.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
You never know, he might get traded to a good team.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
But then he wouldn’t play.
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 26, 2011 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
By the way, Terry, you have known me, at least on the web for a couple years now. I strike you as the type just out looking for attention? Really? Nice to know you are so comfortable stabbing someone in the back like that.
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Dude
You need to get a smaller shovel. You’re almost to China already.
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
That’s fine. I was asking her a question, not you. Thanks for that though.
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you’re absolutely right. damn it Bob, who do you think you are responding to a comment posted on a public blog?
ok, that was dickish….
by some white guy on Jan 25, 2011 7:01 PM MST up reply actions
This guy one of yours?
Mile High Hockey: A Blog To Go And Get Lucky...
Matt Duchene... better at being Pavel Datsyuk than Pavel Datsyuk...
Yep, I have known and actually respected you for several years but you tossed that away with what has been an increasingly annoying and seemingly personal hatred for Peter Forsberg.
If my assumptions regarding your motives are incorrect, I do apologize, However I could not fathom any other reason for such a cruel and mean spirited attack on a player who has meant so much to the team I follow.
by Terry Sanford on Jan 25, 2011 2:59 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Mile High Hockey: A Blog To Go And Get Lucky...
Matt Duchene... better at being Pavel Datsyuk than Pavel Datsyuk...
theres no hockey today?
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
I’m trying to keep up reading all the comments but it’s too hard!
by xskatebakerrx on Jan 25, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
Hahahaha.
Oh, you.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
Alright
The argument has gone from Forsberg to questioning the meaning of words and the insinuation behind them. I’m comfortable in knowing that I never intended to call anyone an idiot. I do not agree with the fact that I cannot call a comment stupid without calling you stupid.
I think Forsberg needs to retire. You don’t. DDC called out my opinion on Forsberg, I clarified it. I do not expect you to agree in any way, shape, or form. I apologize now if I have offended anyone by being here. It was not intended to troll the site, but rather to “answer the call” after being called out.
I love MHH, and I wish the community much success. I am glad to see the passionate fans showing up here and defending their turf. Good on each and everyone of you for doing so. With a couple of rare exceptions, I was glad to debate with you.
I leave you to your comments, and to your site. Good luck the rest of the season. I’m sure we’ll cross paths again.
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Wow, that got out of hand quick.
It really did.
It jumped up a notch.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
i think i was a rare exception… does that make me exceptional?
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
this made me lol
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
Since it annoys me, mostly, but also because nitpicking is proskills
“Alright” isn’t really a word. It’s two words, all right?
It was fun. I actually enjoyed your piece on the Nabokov situation. Imagine how different the day would’ve been had you not included the little piece about Forsberg =p
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
heh, yeah. Lesson learned: Take shots at Foppa and the Avs fanbase will rise with their pitchforks and guinea pigs.
THE RIGHT NUMBER OF MEN ON THE ICE ALL GAME. WHEN.
This is nothing like when he attacked the Wings blog.
That. Was. Insane. They browbeat him into an apology post.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
Forgive me for not following the goings-on of Wings blogs ;)
THE RIGHT NUMBER OF MEN ON THE ICE ALL GAME. WHEN.
Haha.
He posted an article on Hockey Wilderness attacking the Wings blog, the Wings blog responded by flooding Hockey Wilderness, he caved and wrote an apology post. Innanet dramas.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
So he wanted us to go over there? I fail to see the point.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:12 PM MST up reply actions
It was about Excluding Zetterberg, correct? The SB Nation wings blog is mostly harmless … but not nearly as pleasant as it was with the Christy girl.
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 3:12 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah.
As much as I like your nickname, I still won’t use the name. Juvenile, no doubt, but it makes my skin crawl. I never hit up the SBN Wings site because it’s, you know, the Wings.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:13 PM MST up reply actions
I am so sorry I missed this party.
I also have to tip my hat to you sir, you stood in there and took a beating with a singleminded determination seen heretofore only in the first half of Rocky movies. I think that makes you an asset (or at least 3/5ths of one).
Hunwick- Twice as good as Holos when seen through the (extremely) narrow lens of takeways!
so, what’d I miss?
(yes, that was rhetorical)
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 3:08 PM MST reply actions
Um, we’ve decided that the only thing better than Cupcakes is Cupcakes with cheesecake?
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
what about cheesecake cupcakes?
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
No, that’s a muffin top.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
You brought it on yourself. ;)
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:14 PM MST up reply actions
You laugh, but I’ve been trying to figure out how to combine them.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
see? it’d be delicious!
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
I have Cheesecake flavored gumballs.
Thinkgeek ftw.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
Adore ThinkGeek.
I saw some Bacon stuff there and wished I had your mailing address.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:12 PM MST up reply actions
Everything is better with bacon. Including bacon.
THE RIGHT NUMBER OF MEN ON THE ICE ALL GAME. WHEN.
You’ve seen the epicmealtime video with the Eggnog cup made of Bacon right?
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:13 PM MST up reply actions
LOL
epicmealtime’s love of the bacon is amazing.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:14 PM MST up reply actions
I have the plush toy they sell there.
The talking bacon one. It’s pretty much the shit.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:14 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, any time I go on that site (which is fairly frequently) I always think of you and giggle.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:15 PM MST up reply actions
I almost felt like going through this and pointing out the numerous logical fallacies that were used one by one (love the ‘you can’t say anything about Clutterbuck because of Lemieux and Tucker’), but instead I spent my time photoshopping a Wild jersey on a troll doll. I need to rebuild my skills!
You gonna submit it for gameday thread pic when we play them next?
Guarantee it wins lol
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:17 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Ooo I adore your photoshop skills. ;)
By the way, saw the pics of the room, looks awesome!
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks! It took FOREVER but I’m so happy with how it turned out. Wall decals are such a pain in the ass but they look so nice!
by xskatebakerrx on Jan 25, 2011 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
They look really great, never would have thought of doing that.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
Dear BReynolds:
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:30 PM MST reply actions 5 recs
Even creepier?
somebody married this freak.
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
Well, there’s someone for everyone. I imagine she was a Dawson fan as a teenager.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:56 PM MST up reply actions
Great.
Now the gifs are going to make this thread unloadable for the lesser computers. WTG
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:35 PM MST up reply actions
Mr. Grumpy Gills.
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 3:36 PM MST up reply actions
Doesn't bother me lol.
My comp gots this. I’ve been playing Starcraft while rockin this thread but I do know gifs have a history of dominating weaker comps and it would sucks for some of the MHH brethren to miss out on what is a very, very entertaining thread.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:39 PM MST up reply actions
mmmm starcraft + hockey + trolling? SDTF with the megawin
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:40 PM MST up reply actions
This is my life.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:48 PM MST up reply actions
im trying to make some life changes, dropping 5 credit hours has me leaning in your direction. its niiiiice
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:49 PM MST up reply actions
Night work has day privileges, you know?
I just basically hang around dominating with my blackout curtains while the sun is up and make the green when the sun goes down. In my next life, I’ll probably be a stripper. Hookers and blow, ya diiiig?
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:50 PM MST up reply actions
Hookers and blow, ya diiiig?
Wait, I thought that we had established that is was heroin?!?
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
Get out.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Jan 25, 2011 3:53 PM MST up reply actions
Since I read all of that in about 20 minutes
A note to BR, if he keeps reading. If publish or post an opinion you have to expect people to disagree. But the sign of a good argument is one that does not need defending. A good argument speaks for itself, especially in article form. You had to “answer the call” because your position did not speak for itself. It made sense because it included full sentences, but logically your reasons for wanting or “suggesting” or “thinking” Forsberg should retire were not cogent. It seemed more based in personal dislike for a great player than a legitimate hockey-based and logical reason when there exist numerous counter-example of players returning; moreover, those other players who continue to play ruin your point because you did not post about them.
If you think Forsberg is dramatic, fine. You can think that. Most people, aside from Detroit and apparently Wild fans, would disagree. That does not make your point wrong, per se, but it sure makes you look like a moron.
Rome wasn't built in a day; Jimmy Howard built it in 36 minutes.
I’m beginning to think society doesn’t like sports comeback/underdog stories unless they are in movie form, Unfortunately I’m not sure if Mark Wahlberg is available for “Foppa” but he already has such similarities to Peter as “berg” being in both their last names
ya he could pull it off
Behind Enemy Lines
I approve of any post that includes pics of Marky Mark.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 3:59 PM MST up reply actions
Not yet. But I may be in the process of youtubing Good Vibrations…
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 4:02 PM MST up reply actions
youtubing Good Vibrations
Is that as dirty as streaming on Yahoo? Sounds like it is.
Horton Hears a Holøs.
Not really, but it is impressive what he’s been able to accomplish since those days.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 4:08 PM MST up reply actions
NEARLY?!?!?!
Living in the D, but It's All About The A.
by Avalanche318 on Jan 26, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
I approve of any post w/ beautiful pics of Foppa, you can keep Marky Mark ;)
"That's what We DO"-Paul Stastny
The Colorado Avalanche - The luckiest team in the league
Works for me.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 26, 2011 4:03 PM MST up reply actions
I wish this thread couldve happened like an hour later than it did. Statistics is boring
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 3:57 PM MST reply actions
but honestly. im dying in here. she’s talking about probability now, but the easy kind. like, the kind we learned when we were 12
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 4:08 PM MST up reply actions
Gotta love it.
Winnik is a fucking Win!
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 25, 2011 4:10 PM MST up reply actions
NO! But i did get a piece of candy for dividing 3/14 correctly
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 4:11 PM MST up reply actions
ooooh pretty venn diagrams
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 4:14 PM MST up reply actions
The probability of me having no clue what you are talking about is high. Never had a statistics class. Lemme try anyway:
Forsberg should probably play for the Avs again.
Horton Hears a Holøs.
by Andykrist on Jan 25, 2011 4:11 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
A BATTLE, LONG AND ARDUOUS, TODAY HERE WAS FOUGHT
LESSONS OF GRAMMER AND DICTIONS WERE TAUGHT
AND CURES FOR BUTTHURT, DESPERATELY SOUGHT
PERHAPS I MAY SUGGEST: ICYHOT
THE KING OF HOCKEY HATH SPOKEN
(PS TO ALL FOPPA NAYSAYERS: IN THE DUNGEONS YOU’LL ROT)
by THEKINGOFHOCKEY on Jan 25, 2011 4:15 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
The bard shouteth
Detroit is peopled entirely by slovenly ill-informed troglodytes, excepting of course the few Avalanche fans who are victims of unfortunate circumstance.
by Busted Twigg on Jan 25, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
i like this guy
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
Double prepositions won’t help you out of this one, bro.
Though I do dig your rhymes.
Because Foppa at 50% is still better than 95% of the NHL.
Just guessing, but I think the King was playing the game. Ya know “OF” being the typo of “OFF”.
Detroit is peopled entirely by slovenly ill-informed troglodytes, excepting of course the few Avalanche fans who are victims of unfortunate circumstance.
by Busted Twigg on Jan 25, 2011 4:24 PM MST up reply actions
Love is not love
When it is mingled with regards that stand
Aloof from the entire point.
Detroit is peopled entirely by slovenly ill-informed troglodytes, excepting of course the few Avalanche fans who are victims of unfortunate circumstance.
by Busted Twigg on Jan 25, 2011 4:34 PM MST up reply actions
ROYAL LEAR,
GIVE BUT THAT PORTION WHICH YOURSELF PROPOSED,
AND HERE I TAKE CORDELIA BY THE HAND,
DUCHESS OF BURGUNDY (AND BLUE)
by THEKINGOFHOCKEY on Jan 25, 2011 4:44 PM MST up reply actions
wow, lol
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Good work over on Hockey Wilderness btw
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 4:44 PM MST up reply actions
things got a little nuts for me over here, little too much grammar and semantics epeen. but there’s still time for that over at HW!
also, their pink highlighting just was too easy.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
So many potential new MHH tag lines!
Mile High Hockey: A Despicable Blog
MHH: The Stupidity is in the Comments
MHH: Where Peter Forsberg Breaks Hearts
MHH: No Palce four Typos
by Stazz21 on Jan 25, 2011 4:18 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
i approve of all 4, particularly 1 and 4
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 4:19 PM MST up reply actions
I approve all 3
(I’m a Wild fan, I couldn’t get past that)
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 4:20 PM MST up reply actions
going with number 1. but I might use #4 down the road
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 4:49 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
well done, i love it
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
excellent
How about a new logo?
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 5:37 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
that was the part of the post that cracked me up tremendously as well.
“1…2…COUNTWESS TIMES HE HAS JIWTED THE AVAWANCHE” (BReynolds posts sound like that in my head)
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
So, I just got done working, what did I miss?
Each of my replies is a work of art, each more brilliant than the last.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 25, 2011 4:28 PM MST reply actions
What? You think you can just join in after being out for so long?
Retire. It’s over. Stop breaking our hearts.
"I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later." -- M.H.
by Dixomatic on Jan 25, 2011 4:31 PM MST up reply actions 7 recs
Awesome. My hupes were up and then dashed. Again.
Hriscay Oddamngay Other-fuckingmay Ewartstay. Ownay.
HA!!
Each of my replies is a work of art, each more brilliant than the last.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 25, 2011 8:58 PM MST up reply actions
I missed all the fun and my fanpost on why Forsberg/Favre comparisons are not fair is now unnecessary.
Younger and cheaper - Colorado Avalanche
Older and drunker - Me
Wait a minute
Not one “are you an expert?” comment. Weird.
Younger and cheaper - Colorado Avalanche
Older and drunker - Me
There hasn’t been a replay yet….
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Jan 25, 2011 5:54 PM MST up reply actions
Fisting occurred!
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 6:13 PM MST up reply actions
Someone order fisting?
Mile High Hockey: A Blog To Go And Get Lucky...
Matt Duchene... better at being Pavel Datsyuk than Pavel Datsyuk...
Did Koci teach Brodziak how to fight with his head?
My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 25, 2011 6:24 PM MST up reply actions
so, I guess it’s just now occuring to me. Stewie’s left hand is already broken there, correct?
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 7:45 PM MST up reply actions
that’s fucking bad ass
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 25, 2011 7:59 PM MST up reply actions
whatever. He is clearly injured and in no shape to make a comeback. I mean, he’s been fucking BENCHED already. Get over it people, CGDS needs to retire.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I think that is where he actually broke his left hand. He started of with the right, switched to the left, and then quickly tried to switch back to right.
The Avs defense is "air tight"....so tight it's gasping for air and turning purple.
by Americanario on Jan 25, 2011 8:06 PM MST up reply actions
Confirmation of the existence of idiots.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Jan 25, 2011 6:45 PM MST up reply actions
“Idiotic” is the only word I can come up with to describe the Favre comparisons. Look at the impact Favre had on the Vikings this year. he didn’t attend camp and finally decided he would play during preseason, and it was clear right from the start that he was unprepared due to skipping out on training camp.
Remember Thomas Jones comments on how Favre should have been benched late in the year when he was with the Jets? Think many Vikings players had similar thoughts this year? I’d challenge anyone to find a player who ever played with Forsberg who would have similar thoughts.
And Favre went and played for the Vikings. That’d be like Forsberg playing for the Red Wings, something he’s already said he would never do. Yeah he played with a couple of other NHL teams but probably not by choice. As soon as he had a choice he chose the Avs. Is there any doubt now there is only one team he’d consider playing for at this point?
The only comparison is how the media is covering it. Not surprising then that the more mentally challenged members of the media are running with it…
by NomadJackson on Jan 25, 2011 7:01 PM MST up reply actions
not to mention, joining a football team after preseason (especially as QB) is so incredibly different than joining a hockey team midseason
PETER FORSBERG. WHEN
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 25, 2011 7:26 PM MST up reply actions
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