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Game 4 Recap: Colorado Avalanche 7, Ottawa Senators 1




That was just what the doctor ordered.

The Avalanche took a sputtering offense into Ottawa tonight and clearly were inspired by the giant "O" the Senators were sporting on their 3rd jerseys. The game got off to a rough start, with Milan Michalek deflecting a monstrous point shot by Erik Karlsson just 4 minutes in to give Ottawa a 1-0 lead. And that's where Senators fans, like my dear friend Melissa, can stop reading.

After that, it was all Avalanche. The Avalanche offense woke up in a big way, with Joaqim Lindstrom, Matt Duchene (a beauty), Dan Winnik and David Jones all notching their first goals of the year (Lindstrom added a 2nd for good measure). Paul Stastny, Erik Johnson and Shane O'Brien all recorded their first points of the year. The Avs scored their first PP goal...and 2nd...and 3rd...and 4th, while also scoring their first shortie of the year (Winnik).

But it wasn't just offensive output. The Avalanche dominated for much of the game. The outshot the Sens 39-16, allowing just 8 shots in the first two periods. They stole pucks, they won the battles in the corners, they won the draws...they just played great. I can't think of one player who didn't look good tonight. I do think they got a little careless at times with the big lead and I always worry about the team getting too complacent after an "easy" win like this, but those are worries for another day. This was a big one; the Avs have 3 wins on the road trip, guaranteeing a winning record.

I will admit, it was tough to watch former Av Craig Anderson get lit up like that. He did not have a banner game, but also had no help whatsoever.

 

Lines

 

  • Lindstrom - Duchene - Hejduk
  • Jones - Stastny - Kobasew
  • Landeskog - O'Reilly - Winnik
  • McLeod - McClement - Galiardi
  • Hejda - Johnson
  • Quincey - O'Brien
  • Wilson - O'Byrne

We saw the first lineup change of the year tonight, with Peter Mueller scratched for Joakim Lindstrom (who responded well). TJ Galiardi got the first shift on the Stastny line with Jones opening the game on the 4th line, but after the first shift they seemed back in their usual spots. There was some shuffling in the 2nd period between Kobasew and Hejduk and with the pairings (O'Brien and O'Byrne spent some time together), but that seemed short-lived.

 

AWatch

 

Erik Johnson is the first repeat this year with the rotating third A

 

Quick Hits

  • Ryan O'Reilly leads the Avs in points, with 4 while Ryan Wilson leads the team in +/- (+3)
  • Besides his two points, Wilson was a big factor, fighting Zachary Smith after Smith's head hit on Landeskog. Loved the way he came to the defense of his teammate there.
  • TJ Galiardi was the only Avalanche without a SOG
  • Craig Anderson has allowed 12 goals in his 2 career starts against the Avalanche.

Highlights

 


Next Up

The Avs are in Montreal on Saturday for game 4 of their 5-game road trip.

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Slush money from Arsenal seems to be paying off nicely.

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by UZ on Oct 13, 2011 9:34 PM MDT reply actions  

UZ...

…were you saying ‘good timing’ about the closure of the last thread, or the Oilers comment I made? I couldn’t tell, because the comments don’t always line up as expected.

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by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 9:36 PM MDT reply actions  

The first one, but ideally both!

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by UZ on Oct 13, 2011 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I just thought maybe bringing up the Oilers loss to the Wild would be very welcome here. I hope to see the Avalanche beat them up when they play this month. I don’t know if it’s in EDM or CO, but I think they play each other this month. It’s always a win for us in a game like that, where we have two division rivals against each other…always a plus.

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's in CO

I’m actually going to that game :D

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by UZ on Oct 13, 2011 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sweet, I’m stuck in San Antonio, where I either have to drive to Dallas or watch Lake Erie play the San Antonio Rampage.

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was stationed at Wilford Hall in San Antonio for 4 years and I went to a lot of Rampage games. Every single time the Monsters would come to town I went. Its amazing the hate you get for being an AVS fan from a city that doesn’t give two shits about hockey.

by Zucks on Oct 14, 2011 5:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately the EDM MIN game went to OT/SO so it was a 3 point game. I’d like to see a low number of these in the division this year.

In Sherman we trust

by Busted Twigg on Oct 13, 2011 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

@ Mike@Mile High

It is going good. A decent GPA but I wish i would have kept up with the hockey. =(

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 13, 2011 9:36 PM MDT reply actions  

Major? Which school?

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 13, 2011 9:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Commuincations

minor is criminal justice, 3rd year at CSU

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 13, 2011 9:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice. Career path of choice?

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 13, 2011 9:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Honestly

I was a Nuggets writer my freshman year of college. Paid for it in 2 websites. Journalism has tanked so I want to do something different. I can’t do math or science so Com was my next best choice. I have been working 7 years of road construction (thanks pops) and that has given me knowledge. I want to own a communications that is teh middle man between CDOT (Colorado Department Of Transportations) and companies like the one I work for. Not the luxury job of choice but I’ma go getter. I will make it happen. knowing the laws is just a bonus. =)

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 13, 2011 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sounds like you had a similar experience to me: 4 years of heavy construction reinforced my decision to finish my degree and never do that shit again.

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 13, 2011 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

well…. I have a degree and there are lots of days where I wish I could wear some jeans and do my shit and go home. But I agree generally speaking. Well, that’s if there’s any jobs left in USA in 5 years! Learn to speak Mandarin Nessy!

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

hahaha

No my friend. We’ll see what happens. I can’t do math but i can talk myslef in and out of situations =)

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 13, 2011 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t think talking yourself into a situation sounds like much of a skill or talent. :)

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by LandoCalrissian on Oct 14, 2011 2:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

depends on the

sitiation =)

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

haha

i’m lucky 4 years of labor (since i was 14 years old) and 3 years of Assistant Superivsor. This last year I was completely in charge of the removal of a street on a high end job. Really helped me out.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 13, 2011 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

this was @Mike

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 13, 2011 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Game highlights: is it the whole game?!

It's all about the A-

by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 13, 2011 9:38 PM MDT reply actions  

There were a LOT of highlights for one of the teams…

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 13, 2011 9:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can't believe it!

The first game of the year that I miss, THIS HAPPENS. GOD DAMN IT. But thanks for highlights. :) And I’m not actually upset.

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 9:40 PM MDT reply actions  

miss more if you have to

you know how supersticious hockey players are ;)

by ProfessorOak on Oct 13, 2011 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

So, if we want to keep this a trend, you can’t watch any more games.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 13, 2011 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Knew it was coming

damn it

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

We appreciate your loyalty.

Bring on The KOG!

by niwotsblessing on Oct 13, 2011 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

You are now banned from the Avalanche until further notice :3

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by UZ on Oct 13, 2011 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

I watched the first period

So shall I watch the first and only the first every game?

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

That will be acceptable

2011 Colorado Avalanche - Not yet mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.
The 2011 Buffalo Bills - Not going 0-16 this year
Burgundy Wave - SBnation's home for the Colorado Rapids
Crystal Palace FC - Oh wait, we're winning games this year? That wasn't on the schedule until 2016!

by UZ on Oct 13, 2011 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

first one I've been able to watch.

I’ll be taking donations for tickets throughout the year…

Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.

by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 13, 2011 10:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I missed it too. A friend of mine had to put her dog down due to a turned stomach. I personally hope this never happens again. To anyone.

I like the Avs winning and all, but, damn. Kinda put a damper on things.

:-(

Life is short, play with your dog.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

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to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Oct 13, 2011 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

That is such a horrible condition. Please give my condolences to your friend.

The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge

by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 8:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

mine 3.
I’ve had friends deal with that sitaution before, So Awful!

FOPPA!!!!!!
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by gl avfan on Oct 14, 2011 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

My dog is nine and still acts like a puppy. But he’s a big dog (and the most loveable dog ever) thinking about him being gone in a few years is excruciating.

Give your friend my condolences.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Oct 14, 2011 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

I missed a chunk of the first period chasing my dogs through the neighborhood. They’re evil. They’ll wait for me to turn corners before taking off again. Such a wonderful game. They’re 5 and 6, so have a few good years left in them. I think we need to spend more time at the park with the Frisbee.

In Sherman we trust

by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

That is an awful way to refer to your family.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Oct 14, 2011 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Mine is 9, too, and like a typical lab, is as energetic as ever. They told me she’d slow down at 4. I’m still waiting.

The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge

by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Mine is 8 (or will be at Thanksgiving). Now suddenly within the last year she’s decided to become an escape artist (Houdini). She calmed down a little when she was fixed…very little.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Oct 14, 2011 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

question

Does anybody actually have any news on Hishon? Also, anyone who got sent down doing anything in LE? thx

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 9:46 PM MDT reply actions  

lakeeriemonsters.com and apparently he is still feeling symptoms. The monsters are having a lil trouble scoring, makes sense without olver, hishon, and a few others.

by ProfessorOak on Oct 13, 2011 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

According to Jori, Holos was scratched in the first game.

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 13, 2011 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also, Cann is the only goalie right now.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 13, 2011 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Last news about Hishon was after camp, said he’d be going between Ohio and Ontario. A clinic in Ohio is apparently pretty good for dealing with head injuries.

It's all about the A-

by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 13, 2011 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

it’s kind of strange b/c they said he was good to go over summer and then this. I guess he will get better at some point hopefully.

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Actually

During the summer he said he wasn’t good.

It's all about the A-

by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 13, 2011 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

After Hejduk's goal

You can see a fan in a Montreal jersey cheering. What a dick, shows up just to cheer against the sens

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 9:50 PM MDT reply actions  

That’s f’in funny…

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

dose canucks are ruthless (I love it though!)

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m gonna wear my Flames/Iggy jersey to a Dallas game and cheear on the Avalanche.

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

*cheer

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

I know a guy who dresses up in Raiders gear and goes to Broncos games just to root for the other team, it’s pretty hilarious.

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The 2011 Buffalo Bills - Not going 0-16 this year
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by UZ on Oct 13, 2011 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

What an awesome dude, shows up just to cheer against the sens

FTFY

2011 Colorado Avalanche - Not yet mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.
The 2011 Buffalo Bills - Not going 0-16 this year
Burgundy Wave - SBnation's home for the Colorado Rapids
Crystal Palace FC - Oh wait, we're winning games this year? That wasn't on the schedule until 2016!

by UZ on Oct 13, 2011 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

If we think we are a good team...

then we did what is expected…beat two bad teams….now we shall see if we really are a good team…

"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."

by KKtheHippie on Oct 13, 2011 9:53 PM MDT reply actions  

I hear Boston aren't that bad

2011 Colorado Avalanche - Not yet mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.
The 2011 Buffalo Bills - Not going 0-16 this year
Burgundy Wave - SBnation's home for the Colorado Rapids
Crystal Palace FC - Oh wait, we're winning games this year? That wasn't on the schedule until 2016!

by UZ on Oct 13, 2011 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, it won’t be soon. The Flames are not good, and they just beat our next challenger.

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

playing THE CANADIEN in montreal on saturday night coming off a loss will not be easy comrades. The avs will hang with them I bet. Got to stay in game for first 10 minutes. I wanted to go to that game bad but couldn’t swing it, would have been fun to get heckled.

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Where do you live?

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

So, you live in Denver, and you were going to go to Montreal for that game?

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wanted to go to that game

I live in Denver and want to go to every other arena to see an Avs game. Not so unusual.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 8:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm back

And missed 2/3 of the game. But I’m going to watch the replay, so I’m trying not to read too many comments. But it looks like Andy got LIT UP!

I think after this game, I will have closure.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.

by andidee15 on Oct 13, 2011 9:53 PM MDT reply actions  

I just finished watching the game and reading all the comments in the GDT….finally caught up.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Oct 13, 2011 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry (about the comments, that is).

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 8:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Goes with the territory around here. In certain areas I just held down the “Z” button.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Oct 14, 2011 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

I see a new banner slogan…

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 8:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

well fuck
from dater:

Word on Mueller is iffy. Sounds like there’s a bit to worry about, though I did see him after the game and he was talking, etc. Wouldn’t talk to press, of course. Guess the word is “we’ll see Saturday”

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by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 9:53 PM MDT reply actions  

head again?

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 13, 2011 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

dont know

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by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Watch out for those splinters…

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

so far

I’d rather have lindy anyway

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

there is no doubt that mueller has a higher ceiling. Lindstrom would look a lot worse if he hadnt played hockey in 18 months

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How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

I know, thus the “so far”

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it seemed to have worked, at least this time.

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

ugh, that just sux…. hope it’s not his mellon

by jd21 on Oct 13, 2011 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Goes on to say:

If it’s another concussion, they’ll need to make a move to get another forward, no doubt about it.

Market is slim… but i could see ryan malone, brad boyes type guy coming in

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’d like to wait and see how Lindstrom does

by ProfessorOak on Oct 13, 2011 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

amen…

"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."

by KKtheHippie on Oct 13, 2011 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

not a whole lot of time to wait if the team starts losing though, such a tight conference every point matters

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

also

what do we have to give? I don’t wanna bring a guy in here that may mess up chemistry or blow up line combos. We were doing fine when Mueller was out there and slow, and we did alright tonight, small sample size, but give us some time.

by ProfessorOak on Oct 13, 2011 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

just would hate to see this team lose its depth in the first 10 games, if muellers out and then someone else gets hurt, we’re looking at a very patchwork group of “top 6” guys. I’d like to see Boyes or Malone brought in regardless, because of the need to clear space on their teams, they could be had for cheap

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yip deal is for Crosby man

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

for Suter.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
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by Hopfenkopf on Oct 13, 2011 11:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

And Stoa for Parise.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.

by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 12:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

attagirl!

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by Hopfenkopf on Oct 14, 2011 1:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

I believe it was brought up in another thread. However, I still like that trade.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.

by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 1:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

would love Malone but Pete will be okay I think plus they would wait til trade deadline and get max value. He’s exactly what we need though, big and tough and can score dirty goals.

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

he’s ryan smyth, if ryan smyth would gel with our team

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

disagree, totally different players plus younger.

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

different player, same end result is what im saying, bangs bodies, gets scrappy goals in and around the net. Has a bit better frame than smyth and tries to be less fancy, better slap, not as good at tipping pucks

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Andrew Brunette too.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 8:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

not a whole lot of time to wait if the team starts losing though, such a tight conference every point matters

Not if you don’t expect to make the playoffs.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

After two from Lindstrom tonight, and Porter getting fat on nachos, there is no hurry to get another forward. Lindstrom’s second goal was a nice play, Lindy found the open space and Wilson made a nice pass, intelligent play by Lindstrom.

Bring on The KOG!

by niwotsblessing on Oct 13, 2011 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

so what are Lindstom’s negatives???

"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."

by KKtheHippie on Oct 13, 2011 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

tried twice to play in NHL and couldn’t make it, that’s it.

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tried to play in Phoenix, the same team that gave up on Winnik and Mueller.

Bring on The KOG!

by niwotsblessing on Oct 13, 2011 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also in NSH. Then tore it up in the Swedish Elite League.

In Sherman we trust

by Busted Twigg on Oct 13, 2011 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Preds are not exactly an dynamic team on offense. Avs might be a great environment for his skill set.

Bring on The KOG!

by niwotsblessing on Oct 13, 2011 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Never with Nashville.

He was with Columbus, then ended up in Chicago/Anaheim/Phoenix.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 13, 2011 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

they got a pick for Winnick, he was a duplicate for them at that time. They got our 1st rd pick for Mueller who has scored more points than Mueller. But you are correct, Phoenix whiffed and he will blossom into Mike Bossy for sure. Also, all the other teams in league whiffed too.

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Whaaa?

What first round pick are you talking about? It was Mueller/Porter for Wolski. Wolski subsequently has bombed out in two teams since then.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 13, 2011 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

And Porter can’t crack our current lineup.

Bring on The KOG!

by niwotsblessing on Oct 13, 2011 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

wolski was a first and agree but he had a bunch of points the year before.

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Eighth overall.

Bring on The KOG!

by niwotsblessing on Oct 13, 2011 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

he said they “gave up” on Mueller, getting a former first from us is not giving up, thus the point. Plus, even though I like Mueller he shit the bed the year he was traded (4 goals in 50+ games?). I know, it was the system and the coach was an asshole, the food sucked, his girlfriend broke up with him and dated Flavor Flave….

I’m done on the point and I hope Joakim does great but I have to laugh my ass off when I read your posts stating how many teams he been on and then can’t “crack” the Avs line-up even but he’s not going to score 30 goals. Call me crazy!

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

PHX did give up. He was relegated to the 3rd and 4th lines on a team lacking any depth at the skill positions, he felt that he’d been rushed back from his first concussion which lead directly to his next one, and he was very honest that he didn’t agree with his role in the system that Tippett implemented when he was hired. Mueller + Porter for a contract year Wolski (who has not nor ever will produce at that rate again) was the deal. PHX moved a guy they saw no future in for a guy that COL knew had no future and didn’t want to overpay to retain (like PHX ended up doing before dealing him to NYR).

Selective memory is selective.

Topic closed.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dude, what the hell. The facts around Mueller are pretty solid. The Avs snagged Mueller before he was decimated by the Phoenix organization.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Oct 14, 2011 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

breeze- I grew up watching Mike Bossy.

Bring on The KOG!

by niwotsblessing on Oct 13, 2011 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

nice

I was a little guy when he retired but I know my history

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Me too. Miss that guy

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Oct 13, 2011 10:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

He's an unknown quantity

His last stint in Phoenix a couple years ago he actually produced at a pretty respectable clip. Nothing amazing, but certainly respectable. Curious not a single NHL team took a chance on him after proving he was at the very least a very good AHL player with potential to be a decent NHL guy. As of now, nobody really knows who/what he is. He looked great in camp, solid in the pre-season….then got scratched first three games, shows up in the fourth and scores twice, albeit against an atrocious defensive team in Ottawa. We have no idea who the real Joakim Lindstrom is.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 13, 2011 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

he seems a little soft physically, of course so is mueller, but that could be a knock on him as the season wears on. There’s no doubt he has hands and serious talent

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Pretty much.

Not every hockey player is going to be supar tuff stuff. I like his hands, his decision-making, and his general ice awareness. Dude is almost always in a good position. Am intrigued by him, mosdef. Never understood scratching him in the first place.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 13, 2011 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ya i dunno, he does find open ice really really well. I think subasew forced him out when he played so well in the last few preseason lines. Lindstrom was in that spot all of preseason and he doesnt fit on 3rd/4th line, so i guess thats why the scratch

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

He deserves

to stay in the line-up now…

"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."

by KKtheHippie on Oct 13, 2011 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

i think that goes without saying. I wonder who goes though if Mueller is ok
Landy-Radar-Winnik
Subasew-Stazz-Jones
Mueller/Lindstrom-Duchene-Duke
Galiardi-McC-McLeod

Neither Mueller or Lindstrom can play on that 4th line, and you cant really justify taking anyone else out for Mueller

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

mcClement will be 4th line center b/c he kills PP’s

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Gali goes and Suba slips to 4th line…

"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."

by KKtheHippie on Oct 13, 2011 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

thats the only thing that seems to make any sense, but Subasew has earned way better than that

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Appears that Lindstrom has a better scoring touch and Suba may have better all-around skills….hope Sacco does what will make the whole team better and not just think about what one guy earns…

"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."

by KKtheHippie on Oct 13, 2011 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like

that the thirst line is now our first line

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

But don’t tell anyone so they can keep going up against other teams’ weaker lines

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 10:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hell let other teams put their top pairing against them, give Stazzer or Dutch a 2nd/3rd pairing D and they start lighting the lamp like its nobodies business

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

True

I guess it doesn’t matter either way. What team can stop three scoring lines?

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

And ………….. that’s what we were talking about before the season: Rolling three good offensive lines.

by Andy_ on Oct 13, 2011 11:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but when we were talking about that, I for one wasn’t expecting the 3rd line to be THIS good. Holy crap they’re amazing.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.

by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 1:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

FOUR. GAMES.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 1:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

I know. But it feels good to feel good about something though.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.

by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 1:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, you know I agree with you AJ since we sat next to each other at camp and basically kept looking at each other when he bombed home a shot.

Lindstrom looked like the best player on the ice at times during training camp. He probably has the heaviest shot of all the top six-ish forwards on the team outside of Duchene and Mueller. But that doesn’t always translate. I think everyone saw a hint of his shot with that one-timer from Wilson. That shot was no mistake. He can absolutely lay the wood to the puck. He should be on the point for the PP, not Kobasew.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 8:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

2nd Unit PP or first?

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 8:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Last year he scored 28 goals. 15 of them on PP.

by Ilkinio on Oct 14, 2011 8:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Right now, the Avs have put Mueller on that left point and now Kobasew. So, yeah the first I think. Unless they want to try Dutch or Jones out on that point and get O’Reilly mixed in up front on that first unit. But as it’s constructed now, Kobasew out at the point on the first and insert Lindstrom since Sacco seems to want to keep Quincey on the second unit on that right side.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Quincey and Johnson were on the points for the 1PP last night.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Oct 14, 2011 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

They both manned the right side. They put Kobasew and Lindstrom out on the point left side. They may have crossed up during a change but that’s how Sacco has been rolling that line.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was trying to look up the shift charts, but they haven’t been loaded in yet

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Oct 14, 2011 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

That shot was so quick and so accurate. He knew where he wanted to put it and wound up long before the puck got to him. Great timing on the shot….half the Avs would have fired wide on that shot.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Oct 14, 2011 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Let’s not forget the beautiful pass by Wilson to set up Lindstrom.

The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge

by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh Wilson definitely get a TON of credit for that pass…but Lindstrom’s finish was beautiful. And more importantly in the net.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Oct 14, 2011 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Lindy’s shot was really nice. I was impressed. Then I watched the Hawks game highlights and saw Kane and Hossa…..

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by MalachiConstant on Oct 14, 2011 8:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure why you think Lindstrom is soft? He clearly goes wherever he needs to to score and doesn’t stay to the perimeter like Wolski and Vrbata.

Languishing for Landeskog

by zandar on Oct 13, 2011 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

He plays a Milan Hejduk kind of game, I wouldn’t call Milan soft. Soft guys won’t go in the corners and won’t go in front of the net. Hell, Lindstrom got mugged by an Ottawa player because he went in to the corner with the guy and he didn’t like it.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 8:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

We may want someone not so fat

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

I do think he quite on the team (giving the nod to the lack of actual “evidence”, but whatever). While he didn’t pick the destination (presumably), no one forced him to sing a contract extension with the Sens, and it’s not like anyone thought they were gonna be contenders this year.

He gets paid millions per year to play a game, and while a part of me feels bad for Anderson on a sportsmanship level…. I say, suck it Anderson, you got what you deserved tonight.

by jd21 on Oct 13, 2011 9:56 PM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, what he said.

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good to see Landy up in the rookie charts, on leading rookie stats. He’s sitting with Duchene and other guys in points, so that’s pretty cool.

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

absolutely….. the points are telling, as is the shots on goal consistency…. just keep putting it on net, kid

by jd21 on Oct 13, 2011 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great game, last one I’ll be able to watch for a couple weeks or so. I will be thinking good thoughts in my absence.

Whiskey tends to make me high, and sad songs make me cry. Pretty women break my heart almost every night. I run on beans and nicotine; I'm a real, live buckaroo. And my heart's not pure, my boots ain't clean, and I never tell the truth.

by wtnelson on Oct 13, 2011 10:03 PM MDT reply actions  

despite my anti-Andy comments above, I embrace this philosophy

by jd21 on Oct 13, 2011 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Double Blech....

yep..let’s move on….

"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."

by KKtheHippie on Oct 13, 2011 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

well spoken, though ill feel even more that way if we can hold Stewart and Shattenkirk off the scoresheet next Blues game. Not about screwing former players, but ending the curse

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I strongly doubt

this ‘curse’ is just the Avalanche. Did you hear Hejda talking about going back to play CBJ? Dude was all sorts of amped up. It may be a business but these are still guys with an awful lot of pride and motivation so playing against former teams is usually a point of great excitement for them.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 13, 2011 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Worked well for Andy tonight.

Bring on The KOG!

by niwotsblessing on Oct 13, 2011 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

I mean, did you WATCH the game?

Putting that on Andy would be ludicrous. A lesser performance would’ve meant us scoring 10 goals minimum. I don’t think he played particularly poorly considering the AHL-caliber defense played in front of him (and, you know, 6 power play chances).

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 13, 2011 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Left after Landy scored to have dinner with two gals from the Bronx, and then watched the highlights.

Bring on The KOG!

by niwotsblessing on Oct 13, 2011 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

This

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 10:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Man I’m still laughing about it. Good one Andy_Joe

THE COLORADO AVALANCHE HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP. RAYMOND BOURQUE: A DREAM COME TRUE!

by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 10:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

made a couple pretty good saves towards the beginning, robbed stats on the one (well, he helped by aiming at pads instead of net) but still

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

That last goal, Andy was standing up straight. Not into any sort of position at all. I have no dog in this hunt as I just don’t care, but at some point he gave up on the game. It looked like a lot of that last year, too.

Now, as I said I really got nothing against Andy at this point. But that goal looked awfully familiar.

by Andy_ on Oct 13, 2011 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was surprised he wasn’t pulled.

It's all about the A-

by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 13, 2011 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

You and me both. It would have been a good opportunity to see what the backup could do. Maybe what the defense could muster up to help the backup out.

by Andy_ on Oct 13, 2011 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t think of it like a curse, anyway. I think the trade was pretty good, not really the kind of thing that puts a curse on a team. It looks like Johnson will be the next captain, so I don’t think trading those two players was too much for someone who ends up the new captain.

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Even if the Avalanche make the playoffs, which they will, it will be enough to throw down that comment father Stastny made about the team moving back 2-3 yrs.

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Probably have to worry more about that situation last year, where they had problems winning at home…and there’s not even any reason to worry about that this year.

2011-12 + Avalanche = Bad Ass

by AlexanderH on Oct 13, 2011 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nope.

i2 died, I'm his replacement.
This signature sucks.

by Tony Trujillo on Oct 13, 2011 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Chuck Testa

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Oct 13, 2011 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

The thing I loved about the game AJ, is that this Avs team with any kind of sustained puck possession is a beast defensively. Ottawa (despite what we saw last night) isn’t offensively inept. They simply had no chance to show it.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 8:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

It’s early, but I love that the Avs seem to be focusing on Puck Possession this season.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Oct 14, 2011 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

That was great. Now if the Avs can just get the offense going.

What I really liked was guys on the third and fourth lines still trying to score goals with a minute left to play and a six goal lead. Don’t let off the gas. Absolutely. It’s been a long time.

Defense looked really good through most of the game. A few break downs in the 2nd, but I’m happy.

by Andy_ on Oct 13, 2011 10:14 PM MDT reply actions  

This

Didn’t have to do that much, but from the few highlights of him, he looked good. Love our goalies!

THE COLORADO AVALANCHE HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP. RAYMOND BOURQUE: A DREAM COME TRUE!

by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agree with the first part, mildly disagree with the second.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Absolutely. One of the nicest if not the nicest and most professional guys you’re ever going to meet.

by Andy_ on Oct 13, 2011 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

What a contrast in styles between Jiggy and Varly….

"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."

by KKtheHippie on Oct 13, 2011 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

As long as they keep the puck out of the net. Varly will learn from watching Jiggy play, not style but composure. Good moves by the Shermanator.

Bring on The KOG!

by niwotsblessing on Oct 13, 2011 10:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

Indeed...

way to go Shermeister……Shermalagga…..the Sherm…..I think I better go to bed now…getting sleep happy…

"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."

by KKtheHippie on Oct 13, 2011 10:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

and

Kudos to Giggy for the interview after the game. I know there was a lot of speculation about him being a prima donna, but unless that guy is a consumate liar, he knows exactly what his role is with this team – a leader and a mentor for Varly – and he embraces it. Loved his comments about being a fan of the Nordiques and excited about wearing the same jersey Roy wore.

2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: Defying Corsi

by hockeymom on Oct 14, 2011 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have always loved Jiggy. So glad he’s on the team.

The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge

by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just watched Anderson’s post game interview, and it made me sad. Gotta feel for a guy who gives up 7. Nice to beat the former goalie, but now wishing him luck for the future

LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is

by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 13, 2011 10:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Seriously he wasn’t only left hanging to dry by hi defense, but by his inept offense that couldn’t even get the puck up the ice

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov? Here's hoping...

by chiavsfan on Oct 14, 2011 3:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

last thoughts

Avs look good, esp. goalies and new (life size) defensemen. Hope we can beat an injury riddled Montreal team and squash those smurfs they have. Mueller will be fine, trust me. Lindstrom (hear the crack pipe inhaling) will be the next Bobby Hull!

My Nostradamus prediction for Montreal is 3-2 Avs and Lindstrom give a “one punch lunch” to Hal Gill.

night folks

by the cool breeze on Oct 13, 2011 10:45 PM MDT reply actions  

garlic knot!

yum

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 13, 2011 11:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rec’d for wrecking kids’ necks. Little bastards need to learn when to stay offa the GD lawn.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Oct 14, 2011 7:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Denver Post really knows its audience

Checked the sports front page a few minutes ago…

by DiD on Oct 13, 2011 10:58 PM MDT reply actions  

At least they had it above baseball…..

Greetings from the grand canyon. I was driving all day and couldn’t join y’all for the game, but it seems it turned out ok. Btw- they don’t play avalanche games on the radio in northern Arizona. Whodathunk?

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by Paul X on Oct 13, 2011 11:54 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

They know what hockey is in Northern Arizona?

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Oct 14, 2011 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, that’s bullshit right there.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not to defend the Post, but that feed updates articles chronologically. That’s why its above the Avs.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Oct 14, 2011 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

IF keyword “Avalanche”, “Broncos”, “Rockies”, “Nuggets”
THEN
Sort 1. “Avalanche”, 2. “Avalanche”, 3. “Avalanche”, 4. “Avalanche”

I’m no programmer.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fair point.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Oct 14, 2011 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t it be more correct to say in front of goalie Giguere instead of behind?

Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.

by cush52 on Oct 14, 2011 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I watched on and off

two things I liked, and that really stood out to me, 1. Kobasews dangles that created a pretty good scoring chance and 2. Lindstroms second goal was a good snipe, and it was a great pass from Wilson

by ProfessorOak on Oct 13, 2011 11:05 PM MDT reply actions  

Puck daddy lol

Three stars honorable mention includes 7 different avs scored, including landeskog and lindstrom who each scored their second. Um, greg, who scored the extra goal then?

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Far be it from me to defend Wysh, but they did each score their 2nd of the season.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Oct 14, 2011 12:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dishonorable mention for Stewie: “earned 17 PIMs with a fight, a roughing call and a misconduct at 19:51 after an altercation with Steve Ott.”

Not sure why that’s dishonorable… but way to go Stewie!

I'm such a huge fan of the Avs I can name who our goalie was FOUR seasons ago! Crazy, right?!

by Guitarpick8120 on Oct 14, 2011 12:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Any PIM earned against Steve Ott is an honorable one.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Oct 14, 2011 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Left at 1-1

spent the next two periods with a girl….I regret it

Go Avaranche!

by Sean Harsha on Oct 14, 2011 12:38 AM MDT reply actions  

So, does that translate to two months with her or three?

by Andy_ on Oct 14, 2011 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

So… I’m guessing you scored less than the Avs did?

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Oct 14, 2011 7:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

hellllllo out there

anyone wanna talk hockey?

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TyRay Felson for MVP!

by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 12:45 AM MDT reply actions  

What’s hockey?

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Oct 14, 2011 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

GTFO, THIS IS A NUGGETS FORUM!!!

Erik Johnson... holds... holds! HOLDS! PASSES!!

The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.

"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.

The Number Zero, now in colour. Blood and Thunder Record: 1-1-0 (Total Record: 2-4-0)

by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 14, 2011 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

love this

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 12:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

biggest difference for this avs team? Killer instinct. Gave up an early goal on the PK, INSTANTLY responded by potting one of our own. Had a 1 and then 2 goal lead, didnt sit on it, didnt play a defensive game, instead we pounded away at ottawa into a 4, 5 and finally 6 goal lead. Team tonight, and in the third against columbus was relentless, unwilling to give up an inch, and ready to compete

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by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 14, 2011 1:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think we had some of that last season (first half), but the emergence of the Thirst Line just increased it. All three of those guys have had breakout games so far, and that hard-hitting, never-say-die attitude is their trademark. It looks like it’s rubbing off on the rest of the team. Couple that with the goaltending that they can actually be confident in and a blueline corps that protects the goalie, clears rebounds, hits, moves the puck pretty well and still contributes offensively, and it makes it easier for the forwards to concentrate on their job of scoring goals.

Skill, Character, Compete.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 1:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

cajones amigo

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 1:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Je ne comprends pas. Français ou Anglais s’il vous plaît.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 1:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Balls, my friend.

Nessy, you shouldn’t talk to underaged girls like that. It’s not polite.

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by Hopfenkopf on Oct 14, 2011 1:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

didn't no she was an underaged girl

mu apologies

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 1:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

I turn 21 at the end of the month.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 1:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Funny thing is – I’m still older than three of the core members of this team. I’ve got Dutch, Radar, and Landy all beat by at least 3 months.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 1:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

your still a baby

I got you by a few months =) being 21 is nice… idk about in montana but it is in Denver/Ft. Collins! Grats tho on the early bday!

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 1:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Again pinning that game on Anderson is completely ridiculous

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov? Here's hoping...

by chiavsfan on Oct 14, 2011 3:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Get off my lawn!

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by tibbar on Oct 14, 2011 3:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

no hablo france

=)

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 1:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

while this is spot on

for a veteran team I’m not sure it fits 100 % with this young Avs team. Confidence goes a long way. We all know the Avs have gobs of talent young, up and coming and old. The only thing this team needs to keep that talent going is confidence. It is games like this that help polish the kid’s egos and push them to play hard against the good teams. If the Avs make the 8th seed this year I would consider that a great accomplishment. They have the talent to do so. Confidence will get them there. Just gotta keep it going.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 1:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

A counter point to your point is that a young team will also respond disproportionately to a bad outing. You want proof? Look at last years team. No amount of confidence or belief could have willed them to wins for the better part of last season. Just like rolling with a full ego builds momentum, so does a tough stretch. Losing is twice as contagious as winning. If the bad patch comes and the vets on the team don’t do anything to keep the younger players’ heads up, they will spiral. I guarantee it.

My point is that the youth you are trumpeting as a catalyst for the confidence is a much sharper double-edged sword than most people realize.

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Buzz kill.

Yeah, the Sens were bad. However, the positive momentum this gives the team is a good thing. After the prolonged fail that was last year, a game like this near the beginning of the season has to go a long way to getting the offense’s confidence to return. We are such a young team that mind-games affect us drastically for better and worse. We don’t have the steadying vets in the locker room (well, we do have Duke and Giggy, but they’re pretty outnumbered), but we do have an explosive, young team that can get up and do amazing things when it believes in itself.

The biggest win tonight – the Avs forwards remembering how to score and having some of that confidence that they lost start to return.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 1:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think you're on to something with confidence

Some talking head mentioned the big road trip that started the 2009-2010 season and how that helped the season take off. I think this road trip could do the same thing. Consider me cautiously optimistic.

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 1:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Same. I think it was confidence that made the first half of last season so good and a lack of confidence (whatever it was caused by, injuries or not) that made the second half so bad. If this Avs team believes it can win, it will. If it doesn’t, it won’t. Easier said than done, but tonight got us on the right path.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 1:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

So freaking happy the Avs are winning. No Donny Downer stuff, here, let’s get some confidence rolling! On the first eastern roadie, at 11 am, against the defending champs, we win, 1-0. Holding that lead was a nice sign things are changing. Then the last second tie and subsequent win at Columbus. Another game that was different than last season, and now the touchdown at Ottawa. 3 games we hadn’t seen in awhile is plenty of reason to feel fucking fantastic about the Avs. Wilson’s pass to Lindstrom was excellent, and the one timer by Lindy was a laser(Lindy…another -y….-y not?) Dutchy’s goal and his SO were both reasons why I love his fancy handling and let him slide when he doesn’t always shoot when he should. When he does score, it’s just too cool for school.
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by 7sky on Oct 14, 2011 4:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

You are 100% right. However, I will say that some things that impressed me with the Ottawa game are…

The Avs never let up. They never felt sorry for the opposition in this game, they kept coming in waves. In past years, that’s a game the Avs take the foot off the gas in the 3rd and ride it out.

The Avs didn’t get all the breaks in this one, I think they dominated all facets of the game like a professional team would against a really bad one. They dominated puck possesion. They cleared every single rebound and no Ottawa player was within five feet of a rebound against Jiggy.

The Avs showed an unbelievable pace for a traveling back to back roadie. That’s the prototypical back to back road game that most NHL teams lose. Avs not only looked energized, they seemed to get stronger as the game wore on. Ottawa looked like the tired team.

All great signs because 2 points against crappy teams gets you in the playoffs since roughly half of each conference makes the playoffs anyway. Beat the losers and you get in.

But yeah, that Ottawa team is the worst team the Avs have seen so far. But this is still the same Ottawa team that put 3 goals on Detroit, 5 on Toronto and 3 on the Wild.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 8:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Let’s see the Avs do this against a team that isn’t fucking horrible.

Counterpoint: realizing it was a horrible team, the Avs could have let up and cruised through the rest of the game thinking, “We got this.” The fact that they didn’t do that with a horrible team is what I liked. Not letting up on a good team would be expected, IMO. Not nearly as impressive.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 8:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

The biggest thing for me this game, what stood out the most is that killer instinct. In the past the Avs had played down to their competition. They’ve played well against good teams and poorly against poor teams. That didn’t happen against Ottawa. They took it t o a bad team and beat them soundly. Yes it’s what they should have done, but too often over the past 3-4 seasons, they haven’t done that. Sure they had some issues in the second period, and a good team may have taken advantage of those mistakes. But it was the Sens, and the Avs hit them hard and fast all game long.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

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by Americanario on Oct 14, 2011 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

I thought I detected a let up when the score was around 3-1. The Thirst Line came on flying, and the energy came back to all lines, and the hammer came down. I really like how Sacco is rolling his lines right now.

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by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Winner

The Thirst Line

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by c6hor8 on Oct 14, 2011 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

No credit claimed. It got that name during the Boston game, I think. Not sure who coined it.

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by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well I love it, none the less.

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by c6hor8 on Oct 14, 2011 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

except the Boston game. I thought the Avs really took it to the defending champs for the most part, then tried to run out the clock at the end. As frustrating as it is, every single NHL team does it

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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 14, 2011 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

If I can just make one counterpoint: For years, the Avs have played down to their opponents. A game against a bad team? Squeak by on a one goal lead or freaking lose. What I really, really liked was seeing them still trying to score goals with a minute left in the game. I want an Avs team with a killer instinct and that’s what I’m taking from the game.

by Andy_ on Oct 14, 2011 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was going to say something like this, because I was afraid there would be a lot of “well, it’s only Ottawa” nonsense. Like you said, I would be concerned if we beat them 2-1 or 3-2 or something. But instead we did what GOOD teams do to bad teams – blew them out. There’s plenty of reason to be happy about beating “just” the Senators when the score is 7-1.

by Andy_Joe on Oct 14, 2011 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

was going to say something like this

You just did with the post above yours. Why do you need to repeat yourself?

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by c6hor8 on Oct 14, 2011 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Because I am usually the only one that listens. Or something. I swear you people are going to make me change my name pretty soon.

by Andy_Joe on Oct 14, 2011 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

You could try A. J. Halfawaffle.

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by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

I want the whole thing.

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by Andy_Joe on Oct 14, 2011 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with Andy_…

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with Andy_

That needs to be in more people’s vocabulary.

by Andy_ on Oct 14, 2011 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

And an honest question – have we ever had a 3rd line like this?

I’ve always been a fan of the classics. These guys have a little way to go before they surpass Yelle-Hinote-Podein

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by creamy on Oct 14, 2011 6:01 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, but the O’Reilly line is a greater threat to score.

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by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Somewhat off-topic

but my Avs heavy fantasy team just jumped to the top of the leaderboard. My goalies are Varly and Giggy, and combined they have a 1.23GAA and a .957SV%. And thanks to the 7 total assists from Radar, EJ, and Wilson tonight, I’m at the top of that category too. O’Byrne had 3 hits tonight as well. And Kobasew will be on my roster by tomorrow so he can start scoring too.

Moral of the story – the Avs are doing good right now. Really good. And it’s not just one or two guys carrying the team – EVERYONE is contributing.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 1:32 AM MDT reply actions  

One great game out of 4.

You know who has been great this entire season? Varly.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 1:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

VAAARRRRRRLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!

Love him. Small sample size, but I don’t care. He’s fun to watch. Please don’t break.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

But see

It’s not really such a small sample size. In Colorado, yes, but the guy has excelled everywhere else he’s played. This is who he is. Obviously his save percentage won’t remain like .970 or whatever the hell it is but he can carry us when the rest of the team is lethargic, which was the majority of games 1-3.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

he's an athletic freak

works his ass off and is very focused. i think he is due for a very good year

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dude is due for a very good career

(assuming health)

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

hey

if he can do the splits with such ease… i think he’ll be fine. If i tried that a few things would tear

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one not taking the high road about Anderson?

Every goal the Avs scored made me want to “Neener neener” Anderson even more. I’m glad we beat him with 7 goals!

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 1:41 AM MDT reply actions  

you must not have seen my pre game post

“Avs 9 Sens 1. F U Anderson”

I was close.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 1:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well done!

I give you partial credit for the win.

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 1:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

shanks

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 1:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, I laughed with joy for the first few, but after a while, I don’t know… I guess I just had closure on the issue. We could have had that goalie in OUR net tonight. I ended up thinking about Valentines Day and feeling sorry for Ottawa.

Thank you, Sherman. Even though we got on you at the time, I’m almost feeling like not signing Andy was a good move on your part. He’s not a bad goalie – he was behind a defense tonight that was worse than the Av’s last year – but he’s not Varly. He’s not Giggy. And he’s certainly not Roy. He’s got upside and can play well, but it almost seems as if the ‘09-’10 season was an anomaly and not the rule. Small sample size and all, but I’m actually starting to like the trade. Not because Anderson was a dick about it and made me mad, but because it allowed us to upgrade to something better. I’m done with Andy. Varly is my goalie now and Giggy is my second.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 1:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well idk if thanking Sherman

is acceptable here…. Andy turned down Sherman’s generous 2 year deal. Sherman tried… Andy took it for granted. His pockets got deeper than his GAA as teh season wore on… finally the GAA echoed what he deserves to earn… which is still too much.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 1:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

But Sherm didn’t give him more than he was worth. That could be interpreted as “cheap”, but I think it was dead-on in this case.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

absolutely

what he offered was too much. Once Anderson rejected he was spot on in trading his sorry ass. Varly> Anderson. Giggy > Anderson Varly/Giggy>>>>>> Anderson

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

I ended up thinking about Valentines Day and feeling sorry for Ottawa.

 me too, especially after watching the ottawa player interviews, especially andy’s and then alfredsons. Im not a big alfredson fan, but he stuck up for Andy, said how he gave them a chance in the first and kept it close as long as he could with no help. And that made me feel sad and feel for those players, they must feel like shit for letting that happen to Andy in a game that was definitely important to him

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by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 14, 2011 1:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

I just can’t believe they didn’t pull him. Maybe he has spread some love in Ottowa already!

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by helgothjb on Oct 14, 2011 7:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

I've never been angry at Andy

We don’t know for sure what went down to cause the rift but for some reason Andy has taken essentially 100% of the blame for the divorce. He wasn’t playing as well last year (big surprise!) and things went south in a huge hurry. I guess I just don’t understand the whole “FUCK YOU, ANDY” bandwagon that’s taken shape. We’ve made him out to be some overarching bad guy when none of us really knows wtf happened. Yeah, he turned down a fair deal but that’s his right as a player. The whole thing feels incredibly juvenile. A vendetta without any solid reason for one.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

You're so right. It is juvenile, petty and probably mis-informed

and I’m perfectly fine with that. It’s nice to be able to be juvenile and petty about sports-related stuff. I’m not losing sleep over it, but it’s fun to be able to neener-neener.

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 2:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

That’s because the Andy rippers are completely uninformed and have ZERO clue about what happened last year. It makes them feel better about themselves I guess. So be it.It’s over now

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov? Here's hoping...

by chiavsfan on Oct 14, 2011 3:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Bullshit

I am completely informed. By a very reliable (if now unavailable) twitter account. So fuck you.

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by TheRed on Oct 14, 2011 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

what's juvenile

is being Craig Anderson and thinking you are better than the contract the Avs offered… your damn right I don’t like that cat anymore.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

His play and comments post-trade last year hurt. A lot. So yeah, I was mad at him. But I’m over it now.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

i'm not mad at him

nor holding a grudge.. I just don’t like him.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

See, this is where my problem lies.

How do we know he thought he was “better than the contract the Avs offered”? Simply because he declined it? Do you know the details of the contract? How do we know any of that shit? I’ve never read a definitive story, only some “I heard there was something along the lines of ____ offered and Andy declined” but that’s IT. Considering the near Vezina level he played at for the majority of the season (and then the heroic playoff effort), I might have taken the chance on going to FA, too. What if the team said “Take this deal or gtfo”? Kind of a shitty thing for the team to do, right?

That’s my whole point. We’re holding something against a guy that we don’t know the details of what happened. Decisions were made and lines were drawn in the sand about something NONE OF US CAN EXPLAIN. Does nobody else see the sheer ridiculousness involved in that?

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

i'm not buying that

business is business man. When someone offers you 12 mil over 2 years or 3 years or whatever it was you run with it. You don’t say nah i’m good, then suck while trying to prove youself and end up with what the Avs offered but for 4 or 5 years instead of 2 or 3.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Uh.

If the Avs offered $12 million over 2 years, why would he have declined it? From what I remember, the deal he got from Ottawa was a significant jump in salary over what the Avs offered. I may be wrong, but I don’t think he was was that bad when he was still here last season. He just wasn’t the UBER STUD he was the year before so it looked a whole lot worse than it was. He still wasn’t as good as he should have been but still way better than the Elliott/Budaj failfest we experienced at the end.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Furthermore

You make it sound like it’s as easy as “You get offered money, you take it”. The Avs were offering a 2 year contract that was a raise from his current deal but nowhere near legit starter money. He had spent his entire career waiting for a chance to be a starter, got it, proved he could handle it, and then the team probably said “look, we’re terrified of the upcoming cba lowering the cap so we’re being careful with contract lengths” and Andy was probably miffed and said “I just dragged an overachieving team to the playoffs and gave the top seed a helluva scare, I think it’s fair to want some job security”. I think that was totally fair of him and when the Avs stopped at 2 years (like they have been with EVERYONE until FA last summer) he was unhappy. I just don’t think it’s as cut and dry as “TAKE THE MONEY, DUDE, EVEN IF ITS NOT LEGIT STARTER MONEY AND WE’RE GONNA PLAY YOU FOR 65+ GAMES A YEAR”. I would’ve been like “bitch please”, too.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

personally I disagree

I bounced around hockey teams a while back. I was sat in favor of kids who weren’t as good as me but played because their daddy sent the teama fat check or because his older bro played for this certain coach before. Politics killed me in the sport when I was coming up. I finally found a coach who played me based off the skill set I brought. I could have played in an upper league after a season I had under this coach but it was for a coach with the same political style as the one i disliked. I said screw it, this coach gave me a chance, i’m sticking with him. We went 33-3 the next year. Don’t regret the decision at all. That’s why I think Andy has no loyalty with a team who gave him a shot, left for a market that offered him the same amount per year but for 2 more years and that was that. Goodluck in Canada Andy, we won’t miss ya.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

There is a difference though between the league you played in and the NHL. In lower level leagues it seems you are either playing to get noticed and move up or playing because you love to play, not to get paid. In the NHL players have to consider that it is there job, how they feed there kids and the next contract they get maybe the last contract they get so it has to support there family for as long as possible. I don’t hold anything against Andy for wanting more job security. It was a little crappy if he pouted and quit on the team to try to get traded, but I don’t blame him for being unhappy and wanting to go somewhere else.

Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.

by cush52 on Oct 14, 2011 9:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, that’s exactly why people were pissed. He couldn’t come to terms and wanted to leave after the season? Fine. No one really has issue with that. But the perception, whether right or wrong, was that he let the contract issue change the way he played all year. That’s why people got upset, not that he wanted more money or more years or whatever.

by Andy_ on Oct 14, 2011 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Andy was probably miffed

What was your argument again?

by Pinchy The Lobster on Oct 14, 2011 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Avs offered

2 years 7.5 mil he turned that down for 4 years 12.75 mil. My bad I was wrong. Still, he would have made a bit more with a club that signed him and gave him a chance to start. I think you are taking a more emotional approach. This is my philosphy and I hold strong with Melo on my DenverStiffs site that I talk on frequently. Colorado is an amazing state and a great place for anyone to live. If youa re gonna turn it down for some other market then so be it. Peace. If you are gonna turn down essentially the same money to go to another city then fine don;t let the door hit you on the way out and I ain’t gonna like you no more. You, me and everyone else on here and who attends Avs games pay their salary. Why root for a guy who turned us down to go to another club? That’s why I don’t like the dude anymore… plus he sucks.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

My biggest issue is that he just kinda shut down after the contract negotiation. If he had said “bitch, please, I’m worth more than that shit” and gone out and proved it – I have no problem with that. In fact, I would have celebrated it. But he said “bitch, please”, let in 3 goals a game, then played lights out when he moved.

I’m standing by my anger towards him. It was justified. I’m just over it now.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

word

i just dislike the kid

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was mad, too.

There was obviously something wrong him with and you could tell in training camp. Jibbles might get pissy about body language and pop psychology or whatever but he was clearly a different guy. I have no clue what changed in him. We don’t know when the contract offers were made or anything that happened. That’s my original point in all of this. We don’t have any concrete evidence of anything. Even the reported contract offer was reported in a cloak and dagger sort of manner. Nothing ever really came out about it and there’s been 34639485242 instances in sports where players talked about the negative impact contract shit had on their play. But apparently all of that gets ignored because he told us no. Hardcore jilted lover syndrome going on up in here.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hardcore jilted lover syndrome going on up in here.

lol Damn right!

And if Andy can’t be happy with my Avs, then I don’t want him to be happy with anyone’s team!

I’m gonna watch a sappy movie, cry in my pizza and cookie dough and wallow in my victory!

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 3:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

get that five pound TUB OF ICE CREAM YYYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 3:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

f that

I’ll take a 12 pack of silver bullets

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 3:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

lmao!

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 3:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

LOL?

I’m not at all taking an emotional approach. I’m just not automatically siding with the team. I don’t know what really went down and what was said by who. And lol. This wasn’t free agency, dude. He didn’t turn us down to go to another club. We told him “take a short contract” and he said “I think I’ve earned some longer term security than that” AND WE TRADED HIM. As in, we gave up on him. We kicked him out because he didn’t acquiesce to our expectations. Based on the figures, the money obviously wasn’t the problem. It was the term. He wanted to make a life somewhere. How fucking dare he, right?

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think in the end… all that really matters is VARLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by LandoCalrissian on Oct 14, 2011 2:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

this

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

VVVAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYY!

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

“hey guys, who was that bald fellow in the net for Ottawa tonight?”

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by LandoCalrissian on Oct 14, 2011 2:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

why don't russians

shave or pluck their uni’s?

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Because in Soviet Russia, uni’s pluck you!

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

They will be soon if they haven’t been already. I think the Avs have an esthetician on call. If you notice, guys will come onto the team with unruly brows and within a week or so, they are all nice and waxed.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

ima just stop

on this subject right now.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

I loved this. I chuckled more than once, especially the zooming around with the knife-boots

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by LandoCalrissian on Oct 14, 2011 2:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

I like this

well said!

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 2:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

business is business man.

This is exactly right. Andy felt he wasworth more (and really he wanted more years, not more $). By theway, Andy was right: he got the same money and double the yeas elsewhere.

Business is business, which is why AJ & I are so perplexed that people hold the contract negotiations, none of which we have any details about, against him.

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 14, 2011 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

which is why AJ, Cheryl & I are so perplexed that people hold the contract negotiations, none of which we have any details about, against him.

fixed.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

What if the team said "Take this deal or gtfo"? Kind of a shitty thing for the team to do, right?

The Avs would NEVER do something like this!! Oh wait…Lappy….Hendricks….Brunette (oops, I forgot they never even bothered to call Brunette at all.)

It wouldn’t surprise me one little bit if this is exactly how it went down.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

All players that I loved.

It's all about the A-

by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 14, 2011 8:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Would Foote and Foresberg go on that list as well? that was salary cap related, but I thought they weren’t even given offers or not much of offers because the Avs knew they couldn’t afford there price tags.

Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.

by cush52 on Oct 14, 2011 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

They were, but they were crappy offers because the Avs had 10$ million of the cap taken up by bonuses (and the cap was way lower). I don’t really count that.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 14, 2011 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nor do I. That wasn’t an issue of “we really don’t care, take it or leave it” as much as it was “look, guys, this totally blows and we’re between a rock and a hard place and we can’t offer you more than this.”

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

IIRC. Avs had about 3mil or so left and needed two players. PL didn’t want to lose either guy, but also felt he could fairly give either one more money than the other. Everybody knew Forsberg and Foote were worth a lot more than 1.5 mil each.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

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by Americanario on Oct 14, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

My good and bad about the game...

7 goals by 7 different Avs can only be a good thing. I’m excited to see who makes goal scoring a habit. I’d say Landeskog has the hunger.

I’ve been looking forward to seeing Galiardi play and he posted goose eggs. Goals, Assists, Shots on Goal, Power Play Minutes: All big fat zeros. Makes me kinda sad. Last year I was looking forward to seeing Yip play and that didn’t turn out good. Don’t want the same thing for TJ.

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 1:43 AM MDT reply actions  

TJ

is a 4th liner in the show…. unfortunately that’s all he is

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 1:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

I just hope he regains what he had in 09-10, but I’m not hopeful at this point. Maybe he finds out what kind of player he wants to be this year.

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 1:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

yea i'm not sure

finding an identity would def help. I think if he finds he needs to be a grinder, bust his ass for the 8-10 min he is given a night then he will stick on this club and contribute in those limited minutes. Hopefully he understands that and just goes 110% when he’e on the ice.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 1:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Finally, the Avalanche website’s roster has pictures of the new players in Avalanche uniforms. Sad that I actually pay attention to that, I know…

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by AlexanderH on Oct 14, 2011 1:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m not night shift. What is everyone else’s reason for being up so late?

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by AlexanderH on Oct 14, 2011 2:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

college

i’m drunk

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m getting paid to be awake until 7am

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 2:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Avs just won, I don't have class until 1PM, and there are still people here to talk to.

And I accidentally kinda half dozed off during the second. Which was fine. I woke up for all the goals.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

you don't have class until 1

and you haven’t celebrated Thursty Thursday?

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nah. Not tonight. Not feelin’ it.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

i see

well twas a great night to drink =) much to celebrate!

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm night shift.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Duchene's mug shot on the Avs site looks better than the one used in the NHL recap

http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2011020041
He looks like Duchene The Magical Elf

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 2:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

So Mueller (and last year, Stewart) gets a free pass coming back from an injury, but Gali doesn’t?

The dude had a season ending injury last year and he’s still getting back into the swing of things. I think he needs just a little time. I’ve not given up on him yet. But if he doesn’t figure it out by the end of the year, I think he’ll be traded. The Avs like trading career reclamation projects for other ones. Mueller/Wolski. Stewart/EJ. Andy/Elliott. Some work, some don’t, but I predict that if Gali hasn’t established himself on one of the top 3 lines by the trade deadline, he’ll be traded for someone who might.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

maybe

don’t see us getting much out of him other than a later draft pick right now.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

My bet is that he’ll be packaged with someone. Perhaps a D or D-prospect since we seem to be oozing those now.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

Should be interesting

gotta see who gets hurt and who stays healthy. Who’s contenders and who’s pretenders. Lot of things could happen from now until then. All I can say now is I’m glad he’s on our 4th line.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think Gali got going last year

his injuries didn’t let him get comfortable playing. I’m wondering if his new size will help or hinder him this year. I am cautiously pessimistic. :p

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 2:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

more muscle

is more cushion for the bones, tendons and ligaments that get damaged.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not really the same thing.

Comparing any Av to Mueller isn’t very fair. The guy missed AN ENTIRE SEASON. Galiardi came off an impressive rookie season, played uninspired hockey, got hurt, came back, played uninspired, got hurt again. The whole thing was just bad news. Mueller never had a chance. He only started skating again just a few months ago.

That said, I have no idea wtf is up with Gali. I haven’t really had a problem with him when he’s been on the ice but he seems to keep finding himself deeper and deeper in the doghouse.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

wanna know what it is

ah shit I won’t say it.. nevermind.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Isn't it clear?

Gali TOTALLY slept with the wives of the other players! Duh!

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

close but

not what the real problem is.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

This would be a funny running joke but

it’s just a few too many steps over the line for me to be able to laugh at it.

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 2:27 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

The only reason I posted it was due to the whole Stewy thing last year – some chick on Twitter posted that according to an undisclosed inside source, Stewart had slept with multiple wives/girlfriends of the team and that’s what caused the trade. It’s just so ridiculous and idiotic that it will never be true for Stewart or Gali.

It is a running joke already and trust me, the comment was intended to be VERY sarcastic.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Don’t worry. I read the sarcasm in your comment. I know the story. :)

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 2:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe it is that he's bad

But I seriously, seriously doubt it.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

The guy did just put on a ton of weight in muscle. You don’t think that might be affecting his game some? I’m not saying that’s all it is, but I would bet it’s playing a role.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 8:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

In camp, people said it WASN'T affecting him...

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by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 14, 2011 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

It didn’t seem to be. But camp and games are two different things.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

TJ is not just a 4th liner

when you play only a few shifts a game and play with 4th line talent, you will never really get going. Talent playing with talent will flourish. Just look at Duchene in 09 and Stastny last year… You can’t produce with borderline NHlers (even though The McCs are just challenged offensively). Put him with Stastny and Jones for a few games and he may surprise.

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by zandar on Oct 14, 2011 9:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

6 different avs. Lindstrom had a pair.

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by SteveHouse on Oct 14, 2011 9:15 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree, he does have a pair, and I thought he used them well in the game. I hope everything is alright with Meuller, but Lindstrom is a very solid player and I hope he continues to play as well as he did last night.

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by hockeymom on Oct 14, 2011 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

he does have a pair, and I thought he used them well

Well played

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by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Did anyone catch the post-game Giggy interview?

Looks like it’s not just the young guys who liked this team growing up. My love for him just increased when he said he was a Nords fan as a kid.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:27 AM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, it’s cool. I would expect that, though. He’s from there, so I guess that was his home team, but then I guess he would have had to choose them over the Canadiens.

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Giggy is awesome

i love that guy

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

HE WAS A WHALER!!!!!!!!!!!!

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Oct 14, 2011 7:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Quote from Landeskog

"The game against Columbus kind of glued the team together," said Landeskog. "It really got us going and gave us confidence and we picked right back up (Thursday). Our momentum just carried us through the game."

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by LandoCalrissian on Oct 14, 2011 2:34 AM MDT reply actions  

good to hear

Kid sounds like a leader to be. Shit just rock 3 A’s all year and give Landy the C next year.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Please kill me.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 2:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

fine give Landy the C

now

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tebow! Tebow! Tebow!

oh wait….sorry

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by AvDog on Oct 14, 2011 2:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

yak

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Have a good night, folks. Better get some work done now. See you when the Avalanche are kicking the shit out of the Canadiens.

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by AlexanderH on Oct 14, 2011 2:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

later skater

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I should hit the sack too. It’s 3AM here.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 2:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

it's 3 AM

in colorado!

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Whatchu know bout my Mountain Standard Time?

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by LandoCalrissian on Oct 14, 2011 2:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

that it is approx

2:57 AM… love the avatar pic by the way.

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by NastyNessy71 on Oct 14, 2011 2:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Because....fuck the Red Wings!

by StiflersMom on Oct 14, 2011 6:11 AM MDT reply actions  

I don’t know what I’m watching. But I can’t stop.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 7:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

$$$$ says

both ended up as Starcraft players. The kid in the red even looks like a young IdrA.

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 8:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

The guy in the black wife beater ends up in jail after flipping out on some guy at a bar and cracking a chair over his head.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Few Points

1) The Avs dominated this game, and there is no denying this. Andy was left out to dry, and was given a pathetic effort. Therefore Andy, didn’t give his best effort. The third period goals were scored because Ottawa didn’t care, with the exception of LIndstrum’s second goal. Which is why I enjoyed the whopping so much, made the team give up.

2) I know we scored 4 PP goals, but I still thought the PP looked a bit sloppy, with the exception of the last goal. I didn’t see any really sustained pressure until the last 30 seconds of the PP. However, we scored 4 goals and that is the important.

3) Lindstrum has a sweat shot. I like having more then just Hejduk who can snipe. I hope Mules get healthy, but I think Lindy found him some ice time. Even better it can preserve that third line chemistry.

4) How good is our defense. I would like to see Elliot, but I like this 1.75 goals against games.

5) Avs office have made some great moves, Jibbs I know small sample size. Up to this point, Radar, Landy, Giggy/Varley combo, Hejda and SOB have been the best players. Only Radar was on this team last year, stick tap to Sherm, Sakic, and Pracey.

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was I imagining it, or was Kobasew on the point with the 1st unit?

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 14, 2011 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

You did not imagin it, he was. It was not pretty. Lindstrom got some time at the point briefly and looked very good there. The other thing that didn’t look good about the PP? EJ breaking in to the zone. He looked like JML when he got on a bad streak. Things started to click when the forwards started to break in to the zone, in particular Jones on one rush, Duchene on another.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was watching the last PP last night and I was like “WTF? This looks like shiz.” Then I realized that Sacco had just put out Radar’s line and the bottom pair defensemen for the first part of the PP as a reward for their good play. Scared me for a moment with Winick on the PP…

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was at this game/

Fun game to be at for sure. Great effort out of the boys.

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by David G. Little on Oct 14, 2011 8:40 AM MDT reply actions  

I thought you lived in Atlanta?

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by c6hor8 on Oct 14, 2011 8:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

that is a negative. I have family there that i frequent however

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by David G. Little on Oct 14, 2011 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

My favorite part of the game? When Winny called for the puck on the PK as he had seen the Sens collapse down low and that Hejda was gonna win the puck. Retarded, blind backhanded pass from Hejda to a jumping-the-route Winick worked out for once and he got a nice shorty out of it.

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 8:52 AM MDT reply actions  

It was O'Brien, no?

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, it was O’Brien. And you know I know that.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Correct, it was hard to discern the uni # in the replay.

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that outlet pass was sooooooft.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Oct 14, 2011 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

It was the kind of thing a goalie guts a defenseman for 99.9% of the time, especially on the PK.

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not for an expert

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 14, 2011 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

I have been bashing on Kobasew for the last few…well since the start of preseason. I will give him credit he had a good game. That was a nice scoring chance he had. He showed some nice ability and it was to bad he didn’t get a goal out of it.

Thouhg I do have one question about him, was he the only forward on the top 3 lines that did not get a point last night or did he get an assist on one of the goals?

Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.

by cush52 on Oct 14, 2011 9:54 AM MDT reply actions  

I think he was the only one without an official SOG, but you’ll need to check the box score.

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by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Gali was the only one

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 14, 2011 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Reading is kinda hard, huh?

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, have to pull out the bifocals to read the little print. I was going off what Sunnyside said last night.

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by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

K

I was at the game. Kobasew was a mess the whole time

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by David G. Little on Oct 14, 2011 1:20 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have to admit:

I don’t think the awesomeness is so imaginary anymore. Lindy had a good first game – 2G is a really good night. I hope Sacco and Co decide to leave him out there for a little while.

Also – anyone else amused that our Swedes nicknames are “Lindy and Landy”?

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 10:23 AM MDT reply actions  

Also – anyone else amused that our Swedes nicknames are "Lindy and Landy"?

Definitely. I like it.

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by MalachiConstant on Oct 14, 2011 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

I always think of Charles “Lucky Lindy” Lindbergh.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m waiting to see a Triple Lindy.

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by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

“Triple Lindy”, eh? I think that sight would require one to toss their hat.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

You are too young to know the reference. Lawn. Off.

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by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just read that and heard a grumpy old man. Not my intent. Sorry.

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by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Rodney Dangerfield!

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

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by Americanario on Oct 14, 2011 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Don’t apologize, these lawns are precious things. Thornton Melon wrote my term paper!

by Andy_Joe on Oct 14, 2011 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Fine.

{trudges off lawn}

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

“I don’t get no respect”

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

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by Americanario on Oct 14, 2011 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Every bit of the game was great last night.

Ottawa’s lone goal was a GOOD goal that would’ve gone in on any team in the league.

Other than that, except for the Wings game – the Avalanche are beating players to the puck, not only are they beating players to the puck, they are initiating contact & still winning the race. They are rubbing players out of the play on nearly everything.

Everyone on the team is buying into Sacco’s game plan. I think the offensive struggles in the first 2 games were from the forwards who remember what happened last season. I think everyone was so focused on doing the right thing defensively, they never really turned on the after burners and took chances. Now that the forwards are actually HITTING, and not just absorbing hits, they’re finding if you initiate the contact in certain areas of the ice, it almost always puts the defender behind you and creates the opportunity to move the puck up or carry it into the zone, or keep the play alive.

Every forward is playing hit-first move-puck second, no more of the swinging their stick around trying to steal passes & never making contact.

Kobasuck errr Kobasew is going to score soon. He may not be so bad after all. That move he pulled was disgusting, I think only Duchene has done something more disturbing than that.

There is going to be a surprise Captain on this team too. I have it made up in my mind who will get the C.

Jones finally scored on a nasty puck carry with a bit of a give & go. You could tell from the start of last game that Jones was going and it was only a matter of time before he stuffed on. He has to be one of the most awkward skaters in the league, it takes him a while to get going but I would have to say top speed he is the fastest on the team? Duchene is flat out explosive though..

It’s good to see Hejduk doing what he does best and that is getting off nasty shots and just demoralizing every goalie. You know Anderson said FUCK when he saw the puck land on Hedgies stick.

We won’t even talk about the Landy/Radar/Winny line. Disgusting. The way this line grinds it out around the boards and with the cycle but with so much more talent reminds me of those guys named Konowalchuk & Brunette.

WIlson is still playing strong & did a good thing standing up for the HEAD HIT on Landy. Wilson is going to prove to be a keeper. I think the potential odd-man out on D is going to be O’Byrne, not that he is playing bad, but seems to be the one guy Elliot could step in for and not feel all that bad about sitting.

Quincey is playing huge still. I think Quincey may be a dark horse for the C along with someone on that 3rd line.

Lindstrom was excellent. He is bigger than I expected and definitely belonged with the big club last night. 2 goals? WTF!

Looking more like Yip never plays again for the Avs unless there are some injuries.

Jiggy looked good. Definitely weird seeing him in net for the Avs, he looks like a lacrosse goaltender. He looks 3 feet wider than anyone else, I only remember Vitaly Kolesnik looking that massive in net for the Avs.

Overall good game…however the test is coming as they will be facing some better teams soon.

by JoeSacc0wn3d on Oct 14, 2011 11:08 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I think everyone was so focused on doing the right thing defensively, they never really turned on the after burners and took chances. Now that the forwards are actually HITTING, and not just absorbing hits, they’re finding if you initiate the contact in certain areas of the ice, it almost always puts the defender behind you and creates the opportunity to move the puck up or carry it into the zone, or keep the play alive.

couldnt agree more, this is a really good point. They looked apprehensive, afraid to take chances against detroit, that has been slowly disappearing.

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by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 14, 2011 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

It’s all about confidence. They didn’t have it against Detroit, but they had it last night. I just hope it sticks around for the full season this time instead of checking out after New Year’s.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

So who has your mind determined will be Captain?

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by MalachiConstant on Oct 14, 2011 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Guessing:

O’Reilly.

I’m just not sure I want to lay that burden on him just yet though. I mean, he’s been having a kickass first few games, but he still is just 20 and this whole offensive powerhouse thing is pretty new (BTW – he’s our leading scorer with 4pts, all assists). Later in the season though….. he’s definitely not making this race any easier.

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by andidee15 on Oct 14, 2011 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’m going to guess Stastny. I was all up on the Johnson for a while, but he’s lost his chance, IMO. I think we’ll see SoS with the “C,” and Radar will get an “A.”

by Andy_Joe on Oct 14, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

So in your opinion the C should be predicated on on-ice performance rather than any inherent leadership abilities?

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

We have no true way to figure out who is a good leader off the ice.

But there is 2 guys I think on the 3rd line who are candidates.

by JoeSacc0wn3d on Oct 14, 2011 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, in O’Reilly’s defense (and I honestly don’t think it will go to him), he was nominated for that leadership award his first season with the team.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

and he’s normally first on and last off the ice, for people who care about that sort of thing

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by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 14, 2011 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Duchene seems to be the last guy off no?

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by David G. Little on Oct 14, 2011 1:24 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pre game warm ups, yes. Practices, no. It’s almost always Radar.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

So in your opinion the C should be predicated on on-ice performance rather than any inherent leadership abilities?

Nope, I just want to piss of that Nessy guy.

Seriously, though. In my opinion it should be inherent upon both, with an emphasis on leadership abilities. My opinion, however, is irrelevant. My Stastny guess is based on what I think the the team will do, because he plays well, has been wearing the “A” so far, and will get it ahead of Hejduk because Hejduk may well be in his last season. I’d like to think that whoever they give it to isn’t going to retire after this year and then start this whole thing over again.

Johnson may have the leadership abilities, but his on-ice performance has been a little too shaky, and thus does not inspire confidence the way a leader should. I’m not saying the captain has to be perfect on the ice, but he has to be better than EJ has been.

by Andy_Joe on Oct 14, 2011 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was just asking to ask, no ulterior motive. I’m in the camp that a reliable, level-headed, mature player who understands his role with the team and the organization who has a report with the coach should be the first and only choice for captain. If he also happens to be a superstar or otherwise consistent scoreboard presence, that’s just bonus.

I understand other people’s opinion that the captain should be the face of the franchise and that typically falls on the goal-getters on the team. It’s just not the philosophy I personally believe in.

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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2011 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think we’re on the same page. Making Ovie captain was ridiculous, I thought. I’m all for the Dustin Brown’s of the world being captain, and up until the last, I dunno, 4 games or so, I thought EJ could be that guy. He’s just been too sloppy, and my sorry little attempt to read the mind of the Avs tells me that I don’t think it will be him.

by Andy_Joe on Oct 14, 2011 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m reading my posts, and man, I should NOT have had that tequila at lunch.

by Andy_Joe on Oct 14, 2011 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think EJ has shown he might struggle wearing the C by trying to do too much.

Languishing for Landeskog

by zandar on Oct 14, 2011 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think EJ has shown he might struggle wearing the C by trying to do too much.

fixed

Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.

by cush52 on Oct 14, 2011 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

Forgot to mention Landy. This kid is SICK!

by JoeSacc0wn3d on Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM MDT reply actions  

When is Ryan O’Reilly going to wear an A? I’m shocked it hasnt happened yet

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by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 14, 2011 11:31 AM MDT reply actions  

Me too. It could be they wanted to just let him play and not put the pressure on him. I suspect he will get it in the next few games, though. He has driven the momentum of games so much thus far.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 14, 2011 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

They should give the C to Milan

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by Schwerepunkt on Oct 14, 2011 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

/facedesk

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by A.J. Haefele on Oct 14, 2011 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's unhealthy.

Erik Johnson... holds... holds! HOLDS! PASSES!!

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by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 14, 2011 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

24 hours later

Yep. Still rocks.

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by Dixomatic on Oct 14, 2011 5:27 PM MDT reply actions  

Would it be wrong to re-watch it?

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by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 14, 2011 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was checking if Altitude was going to re-play it tonight. Evidently they did this AM at 10:30, but that’s the last of it. Probably they will erase it to save money on disk space.

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by Busted Twigg on Oct 14, 2011 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ah, yeah, I have GCL so it’s easy enough to do for me.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 14, 2011 6:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I love that feature

I’m missing the game tomorrow cause I’m going to the Barons’ home opener, and then there’s Avs-Habs waitin for me. :D Might even catch what I can on my phone during intermissions

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