Daily Cupcakes- October 25th, 2011
Don't forget, MHH still needs to sell a little over 100 tickets to be able to skate at the Pepsi Center on October 30th. If you are in town, the tickets are available at a deeply discounted price.
Here's a story on Peter Budaj.
"During my first training camp with the Avalanche, I was fortunate enough to be paired with Patrick Roy, one of my childhood idols," Budaj told the magazine. "My stall was right next to his in the dressing room during camp and even though I was completely intimidated, I remember on the first day asking him to sign some of my hockey cards.
"Patrick was great with me," Budaj added. "He gave me some great pointers on my technique and he really helped teach me how to prepare for a hockey season."
Wanna know the estimated cost of the new Quebec "multi-purpose arena"? It's a lot.
Populous is part of a joint venture to design and build a $400 million multipurpose arena for Quebec. The design process is under way; the 18,000-seat arena could open by mid-2015. It will meet all the standards for a modern concert venue and for the NHL.
Maclean's has an interview with Brendan Shanahan
Q: The NHL season has just started and already you’re under fire. Were you surprised that the honeymoon was so short?
A: I knew that it was a controversial position, but it’s an endeavour I believe in. There’ll always be those who think every decision is too much, and there will be those who think every decision is too little. I try to keep my focus on the goal: keeping hockey physical and entertaining and passionate. But I think it can also be safer. And I think the players are already showing their ability to adapt.
Don't forget, MHH still needs to sell a little over 100 tickets to be able to skate at the Pepsi Center on October 30th. If you are in town, the tickets are available at a deeply discounted price.
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The Yum! Center here in Louisville has a max capacity of about 22,000 and only cost $238 million. That’s about $10,800 per seat. The Quebec arena (which will probably run above estimated cost just like Yum! did) is already at $22,222 per seat. That seems pretty ridiculous.
Of course, stadiums and arenas tend to be a big scam anyway…
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
Agree. It’s been pretty much proven that public investment in these kinds of arenas aren’t worth it in the long run, which makes sense, because if they were such good investments to begin with owners wouldn’t mind ponying up the cash to pay for them in the first place.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 25, 2011 6:11 AM MDT up reply actions
Stadiums are getting harder and harder to come by too. Even in the minor leagues. You should read up on the giant scam of an independent league baseball team we had here in Lake County, IL. Millions of taxpayer dollars gone…and though there probably won’t be a team there anymore, they have 23 years of a contract to pay off.
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
Precisely. And many of these stadiums are plopped down into a sea of parking lots, totally detached from any kind of urban setting that might benefit from the increased foot traffic before and after games. At least here in Louisville the new arena is smack dab in the middle of downtown. It’s bad because we have no decent mass transit so the roads are a mess, but it’s good because new businesses actually have popped up (and are thriving) around the arena. It also helps that it hosts college basketball, which is insanely popular here.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
I personally feel that every city should have a stadium. It is unfair that some places have stadiums and some don’t. I would like to start an initiative for fair and equal stadium-ship throughout North America.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I think we should add stadiums to the Civil Rights Act as a protected class.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
I think stadiums should be given the right to marry whoever they want.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
Unless it’s the Yankees or Red Wings, right? I mean, I’m no bigot.. but that’s just disgusting.
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by MalachiConstant on Oct 25, 2011 9:38 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Fuck the yankees.
Fuck the red wings.
Both work.
Varly!
by niwotsblessing on Oct 25, 2011 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions
One of those are fighting words in my family. I could care less about baseball, but the majority of my family (dating back to my grandfather, who could have played pro ball) are Yankee fans.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Oct 25, 2011 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Especially since some cities have two or three stadiums. Why does Denver get the Pepsi Center and Invesco/MileHigh/what ever the hell they call it these days? Greedy bastards.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Oct 25, 2011 7:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Eh, it depends. Study results have gone both ways. Your skepticism is well founded as there are plenty of examples where public investors, in all likelihood, took a loss. There are however, a few examples of decently clear cut success cases as well (in the fairly short term). The benefits of such long term projects aren’t easy to quantify at all though. In most modern cases, we’re not even out of the depreciation period for most projects, let alone outside of the projected term for realized benefits.
It’s been pretty much proven that public investment in these kinds of arenas aren’t worth it in the long run
I would really disagree with that statement, though. B/c A) In most cases, we haven’t even seen the “long run” yet and B) making conclusions on long-term benefits of large public investments like that is simply very difficult and very inaccurate.
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 25, 2011 7:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I have never seen one study that concludes that public investment in a stadium/arena is a good public investment that isn’t commissioned for by people with a vested interest in getting the public to pay for an arena/stadium.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 25, 2011 7:36 AM MDT up reply actions
If you’re legitimately interested, I could probably dig up a few for you. It’d have to wait a couple days, but I did a years’ worth of concentration on local government finance and cost benefit analysis in grad school. Chicago was bidding for the Olympics at the time.
The best, most conclusive, type of study would be after the fact. There aren’t as many of those and they tend to concentrate on narrower metrics for their conclusions. There’s generally no Pass/Fail, so much as “pointing in this direction”. No two situations are alike, etc. and all other qualifications noted. Point being, the academic literature is not so cut and dry.
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 25, 2011 7:55 AM MDT up reply actions
That’s fair, you’re probably more of an expert than me then. I have seen a few studies that look at arenas after the fact and the conclusions have almost been the same: When an arena/stadium did seem to have economic benefit (say like Coors Field) it is usually just money being transferred from other parts of the city.. i.e. money that was likely going to go into the economy anyways.
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 25, 2011 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions
It’s a pretty interesting subject that offers practical examples that compare well generally to large capital investments in economic development, which is what I went to school to study. Government taxation/spending is almost invariably nothing but wealth/benefit transfer, so building arenas/stadiums would hardly stand out there (with notable exceptions like national defense). The question is generally more utilitarian in nature.
Still financing a stadium/arena is a flashy idea that’s easy to get support for, but has generally been poorly executed or inappropriate for the area. It’s not inherently a bad idea across all circumstance, but it does deserve its bad reputation.
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 25, 2011 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions
I seem to remember (possibly incorrectly) a story years ago about how getting the olympics in your city is a major short term win, but in the long run ends up hurting a city. Maybe it was only one city that was the example, but they talked about a city where they spent hundreds of millions to build all the stadiums and venues. but then within a few years all the places were sitting empty and unused and became a drain on the city.
I am to fucking drunk to try and change this shit again!
I wrote an article about this for my job and there have been few cities that come out even, much less ahead, when hosting the Olympics. LA is one of them that did well with it. London’s went millions over budget and there’s no way they’ll make up the money. Greece was one of them that was the worst as far as losing money. It’s a terrible prospect and I would never vote for Denver or Colorado to have it.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 25, 2011 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Denver had their shot at the Winter Games. They were selected as the host city in ‘76 and turned it down. I think they ended up in Innsbruck Austria. The future Governor Gloom (Dick Lamn) led the campaign. Denver will never get another chance as evidenced by the USOC’s refusal to consider a 2018 Winter Games proposal from the city. It was a good fiscal move. The transportation infrastructure between Denver and the mountain resorts was nearly non-existent. I-70 was under construction, only one bore of the Eisenhower tunnel was open. Traffic to the mountains is bad now, it would have been stupid back then. The majority of venues did not exist with the exception of downhill and cross country skiing. The rest would need to be built.
It might be better now. Denver is much larger, the infrastructure is far more developed, and Winter Games are much less of a production than the Summer Olympics.
In Sherman we trust
by Busted Twigg on Oct 25, 2011 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Just ask Salt Lake City how it worked out for them.
Not the guys who got ultra wealthy on the graft, the rest of them.
Montreal took +/- 40 years to pay of the ’76 games. Thanks, but no thanks.
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.
Are you kidding? Have you been on I-70 during a weekend lately? Winter is the SLOW season and it ain’t pretty even then. I-70 from Morrison to Vail is a huge clusterfuck with no solution other than diverting traffic to other corridors.
Olympics would be a disaster here IMO.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
I was going to say:
Study results have gone both ways. [citation needed]
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
I should have some straight from a course on my computer at home still. That being said, saying “Study results have gone both ways” requires no less trust from the reader than does saying “It’s been pretty much proven”.
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 25, 2011 8:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Fair point.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
Fair, I should expand on it. I have seen multiple studies that have said it is almost always a bad deal for the taxpayers.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 25, 2011 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Errrr
Why does Quebec want a new arena?
"Time to bust out the increasingly shameful porn and let fly the balls of war!"
-AJ Hellofawaffle 2011
RIP Dan Wheldon
They want their two dollars.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Oct 25, 2011 8:10 AM MDT up reply actions
They want a WHA team
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
They want the Islanders. Or Coyotes.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
If they can just hold off for 10 years, they can have the Jets.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
by Dixomatic on Oct 25, 2011 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Or the Avs
"Time to bust out the increasingly shameful porn and let fly the balls of war!"
-AJ Hellofawaffle 2011
RIP Dan Wheldon, Marco Simoncelli
I thought Nemesis was in England. That’s pretty much ‘away’, at least from here.
In Sherman we trust
by Busted Twigg on Oct 25, 2011 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions
I’ve definitely heard about those studies, but my first-hand experience says LoDo is still Skid Row without Coors Field.
Yeah
but even so, did Coors field bring in more money, or consolodate it? Was the disposible income spent there more likely to go to more local communities and places? I don’t know, but most studies I’ve seen suggest that the money at Coors field would be spent somewhere else.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 25, 2011 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Not sure what the answer is, and I understand what you’re saying, but I have a hard time imagining downtown Denver without LoDo. So maybe all Coors Field did is consolidate the spending there. LoDo without Coors Field is El Chapultepec on one end, Wynkoop Brewery in the middle, and the Wazee Supper Club at the other end.
Meh, coors field came after “they” decided to renovate LoDo. Chicken and the egg, IMO
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
It’s not an easy question to ask. In general, you could say Coors Field was a good idea if the overall economic benefit of stakeholders > the overall cost to stakeholders (let’s say taxes + opportunity cost).
First question then, what tax base was used to finance it? Maybe it was all sales tax taken from out-of-state vacationers, in which case all of us here in Colorado win. Maybe it was just City of Denver income and property taxes. LoDo resident baseball fans might be ok with that, but non-fans who live in other areas took a disproportionate hit for the benefit of a larger population.
Who pays? Who benefits? And how do we quantify those benefits (some are monetary, some aren’t)?
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 25, 2011 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Yum! Center? Christ.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 25, 2011 7:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was in Louisville for a couple days last week. “KFC Yum! Center”. I laughed.
Hey Joe, what the h is with the bridge on I-64? What a pain in the ass to get from one side of the river to the other.
Whiskey tends to make me high, and sad songs make me cry. Pretty women break my heart almost every night. I run on beans and nicotine; I'm a real, live buckaroo. And my heart's not pure, my boots ain't clean, and I never tell the truth.
Pizza Hut is also a Yum! Brand, isn’t it?
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
Yeah, that and Taco Bell logos are also on the side. At one point Pepsi owned all of them. Don’t know if they still do or not.
Whiskey tends to make me high, and sad songs make me cry. Pretty women break my heart almost every night. I run on beans and nicotine; I'm a real, live buckaroo. And my heart's not pure, my boots ain't clean, and I never tell the truth.
Yum! is a spin-off from Pepsi. It’s based here in town and shares joint ownership of the city with UPS, Papa Johns and Ford.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yum!_Brands
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The Sherman Minton Bridge, which carries I-64 over the Ohio River from the west end of Louisville to New Albany, Indiana, will be closed for at least a year as they repair numerous cracks in load-bearing beams. It’s created a traffic nightmare here for several weeks now and will do so for what might as well be forever.
We have no rail-based transit here, and only two other working car bridges, so they have to handle the 80,000-90,000 cars that normally traveled daily over the Minton before it was closed. It’s a clusterfuck, but the inevitable result of completely absent city and state leadership. We’ve been waiting for an east end bridge for decades and the only thing they’ve done is waste millions on studies and lawsuits. And any mention of trains to reduce car use are considered crazy talk.
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I discovered I hate GPS last week. Seriously. Give me a damn map any day of the week over that stupid nagging computer lady. We drove across the country going to the FFA convention in Indianapolis. Every time I was going somewhere, even if I knew where I was going, that damn GPS would tell me to go a different way. The gal that was with me apparently doesn’t understand that it’s really simple to correct your mistake if you turn on the wrong street. Rather than letting me tell her where to go or letting me go where I knew we should go, she would get upset and say, “just follow the GPS”. I’d like to have a map so I know where I am and actually watch the landmarks rather than listening to the damn computer.
Case in point – we went back down to Louisville on Friday from Indianapolis to visit the Waverly Hills Sanitorium (unfortunately not a private tour, only the haunted house, which is a waste of $20 and a 2 hour drive). We had been in Louisville for parts of 3 days not 3 days earlier. The machine told us to take I-64 across the river. Me: “I-64 is closed.” Her: “Well we need to follow it.” I happily obliged, mostly just to prove the point that TomTom sucks. And I was correct. It took forever to cross the river, then we ran into football traffic. And I got to say I told you so.
Point is, go to hell, TomTom.
Whiskey tends to make me high, and sad songs make me cry. Pretty women break my heart almost every night. I run on beans and nicotine; I'm a real, live buckaroo. And my heart's not pure, my boots ain't clean, and I never tell the truth.
Could not agree more. I hate those little devices. Google Maps ahead of time ftw.
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 25, 2011 7:34 AM MDT up reply actions
Fuck google maps. Knowing where the fuck you are, and where the fuck you are going, regardless of medium, FTW. HAve some self awareness people.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Google maps is a method for doing just that? It’s a map… with street view pictures of the place you’re going so you can recognize it ahead of time.
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 26, 2011 7:10 AM MDT up reply actions
Sorry I was feeling a little bitter for some reason. I do use google maps. But I do also hate GPS, when it’s used as a crutch, just like GM
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Heh, no worries mate. I’m no stranger to random outbreaks of bitterness myself.
My mom was in town for the my brother’s wedding the other day and managed to get lost on her way to Chautauqua (flat irons trailhead) — when she called for help she was driving due east… the exact opposite direction of the mountains.
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 26, 2011 6:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, you can usually turn the nagging GPS voice off. Or, not program in where you want to go for that trip. Or tell your passenger that you, the driver, get the final say.
I don’t know. I like GPS, but I always turn off the voice. And I don’t let the GPS direct me the wrong way up off-ramps. (Did someone post that story here? I read last week about people blindly following their GPS into on-coming traffic, off piers, etc.)
Yup, never have the voice on the GPS, and always keep it updated. Though I always use Google Maps to have a “kinda” plan on the way
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
I also use Google maps for the most part, but both times I have gone to Denver I have taken a GPS with me because I always end up looking for a walmart, grocery store, or something else that I didn’t plan for.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Oct 25, 2011 7:59 AM MDT up reply actions
yeah, no GPS, no cell phone, no HDTV…I am totally missing the technology boat. I am thinking of getting one of them there Kindle Fires though.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 25, 2011 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Holy shit…I just realized you’re Amish. How much does your wife charge for one of them quilts?
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 25, 2011 10:14 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
rofl
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 25, 2011 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions
That’s a rec….my students are all staring at me now.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Oct 25, 2011 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Hahahahaha
Nice!
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 25, 2011 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
LOL
I have been looking for one of those quilts.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 25, 2011 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Love my Nook Color. I haven’t tried a Kindle Fire.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 25, 2011 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
I want a Kindle… but I’m torn, I really like having paper books. I want the Kindle just for trips and running around.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 25, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
My wife bought me mine, and at first I was worried. I liek the smell and feel of paper books (still do). But then I started using it (partially because she spent a lot of money on it and I didn’t want to disapoint her)…
I love that I can read in bed with the lights off while my wife sleeps. And I don’t have to get up to turn a light off to go to bed.
I love that when I run across a word I don’t know, like sonorous, I can instantly look it up by highlighting it, even if I don’t have internet access.
I love that I can jump straight to a footnote, and jump staright back without holding pages, placing a bookmark.
I love that I can take notes on a page, and that I can instantly jump to the page without stickynotes or bookmarks.
I love that I can download a book or magazine and start reading in 20s, and don’t have to run to the bookstore (although I do still like goign to the bookstore)
I love that I can use it for more than books, like Twitter and magazxines and newspapers.
I ove that I can have a whole library when I travel take up almost no space.
Really, I still like the nostolgia of books (and occasionally pick up an old paperback), but it’s just so damn conveinant. I’ve seen my book reading at least quadruple since I got it.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 25, 2011 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions
I will also be a real book girl. Went to the library on Saturday. I missed it. I buy too many books online now. Need to spend more time with the shelves and rows.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 25, 2011 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions
My wife still does both. Even with her Kindle, books cost money. If she’s not sure she wants a book, she’ll go to the library and check it out there for free.
I haven’t started reading books on-line or on a Kindle yet. I just have not had a reason to try it, but I will someday.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Oct 25, 2011 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I have the kindle App, so I’ve been using it to read and I enjoy it. Especially the free books daily, but I still like going to the store or library and hunting for a book.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 25, 2011 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions
And yet it still doesn’t help your spelling. Still needs some work imo.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
It was turned down, but we couldn’t shut it off, so I could still hear it. The worst thing was that it makes some dumb noise when you are “speeding”, even if it’s wrong. Mind your own damn business, TomTom.
Whiskey tends to make me high, and sad songs make me cry. Pretty women break my heart almost every night. I run on beans and nicotine; I'm a real, live buckaroo. And my heart's not pure, my boots ain't clean, and I never tell the truth.
I have heard that TomTom is by far the worst brand out there.
I have a Garmin Nuvi….you can download other voices and of course you can mute the voice if you want.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Oct 25, 2011 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Yep, I’ve heard that about TomTom’s. They are more basic, I guess.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 25, 2011 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
In the few short months I got to use my Tom Tom, it was hit and miss. Then someone smashed in my window and stole it, so now I rely on my phone’s GPS. Still hit and miss. I have the same issues with online maps like Google.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 25, 2011 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I’m on my third Garmin GPS. The first was pretty expensive because I bought it about 7 or 8 years ago, but the last one was cheaper than buying the updated map. It works almost everywhere and is pretty reliable. I call the female voice the “bitch in the box” because she always says “recalculating” in a condescending voice when I mess up and miss a turn (tried other voices but she annoys me the least). I used a Magellan in a Hertz rental car recently, and it really made me miss my Garmin. The Hertz one didn’t warn me about turns until we were right on them. Not helpful when we were on highways with 6 lanes and I was in the center. With the Garmin Nuvi I currently use, you can also decrease or increase the number of voice prompts to cut the irritation down.
by Go Avs and Mavs on Oct 25, 2011 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions
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Oh lordy. Battlefield 3 today. Totally mailing in this day at work
It's all about the O'
by SteveHouse on Oct 25, 2011 9:11 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
hey guys,
Sorry if this is a bad place to post this,
I’m from PPP, and
I’m doing a project for a Communications class on the NHL re-alignment,
I would love it if you could fill out this quick survey (seriously, its quick)
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ZGT3DHY
Thanks!
I’m going to do that now, but there better be questions about the 3rd line or I’ll be pissed
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 25, 2011 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
I did it, there were no questions about the third line… I thought about not hitting “Submit”.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 25, 2011 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Done.
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge
by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 25, 2011 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Done, and that was quick, but “the united states”…… Probably less in formative than “canada” in describing a hockey region.
It's all about the O'
by SteveHouse on Oct 25, 2011 1:42 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Don’t know if anyone will care… but im in a fantasy league, 12 teams and after 2 weeks I’m annihilating everyone. Here is my roster:
Centers: Crosby, Malkin, Duchene, Roy, Giroux, RNH, Legwand, Ribeiro
LW: Parise, Moulson, Doan, Marchand
RW: Alfredsson, Stewart
D: Burns, Suter, Carle, Visnovsky
G: Lundqvist, Varlamov, Halak
LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is
by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 25, 2011 3:51 PM MDT reply actions
Did anyone else in your draft know anything about hockey
I am to fucking drunk to try and change this shit again!
it doesnt look that way does it?
LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is
by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 25, 2011 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Around the NHL
Pens defeat the Isles 3-0
Columbus get their first win of the season smacking the Amwings 4-1
Tampa is up 3-2 on the Sabres with 6:00 left
San Jose 1-0 Nashville end of second
Anaheim 1-1 Chicago in second
Edmonton 0-0 Vancouver in first
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
Ottawa defeated Carolina 3-2 in the SO
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Oct 25, 2011 7:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Re: CBJ vs DET game
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA DETROIT!!!!!!!
And good for you, Blue Jackets. It’s a good team to get your first win against.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
Also -
LA at NJ is tied at first intermission. But the big deal is NJ’s top line of Kovalchuk-Parise-Palmieri. Yeah, Parise’s playing center.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
There tied but it’s 0-0
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Oct 25, 2011 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Chicago beat Anaheim 3-2, unfortunately in the SO.
Edmonton is up 3-1 on Vancouver in the third.
Phoenix 1-1 Dallas in the second
LA 0-0 NJ after one.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Oct 25, 2011 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions

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