Daily Cupcakes- October 31st, 2011
by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 31, 2011 6:01 AM MDT
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The Edmonton Journal thinks Andy Sutton will get a 5 game suspension today. We'll tell you when we find out what he gets.
Additionally, Sutton fails to make full-body contact – the primary point of contact is the head. When we consider these factors, it’s difficult to believe that Sutton will avoid a suspension. When we compare his hit to the explanatory video provided by the NHL above, it seems highly probable that Sutton will be suspended.
For how long? Given the emphasis the NHL has put on Rule 48 this season, and Sutton’s prior record, I suspect he’ll be gone for five games. We will know for sure on Monday.
Puck Daddy talks about ten surprising stats that "won't last".
4. The Colorado Avalanche have the league's best powerplay; they're converting at a 30% rate.
Last season, the Avalanche powerplay converted 18.5% of the time, good for 11th in the NHL. Meanwhile, the league's best powerplay was successful 24.3% of the time. In short, don't expect the Avalanche to keep scoring on 3 of 10 man advantages.
But feel free to expect them to remain better than last season, as this powerplay is a much different and much better one. Erik Johnson(notes) is beginning to show that he's a natural powerplay quarterback and Kyle Quincey(notes) has refound his game after missing most of 2011 with a shoulder injury. Meanwhile, David Jones(notes) is doing excellent work down low.
A recap of the game, this is the interesting stats.
Avalanche F Gabriel Landeskog finished with four goals in October, one short of the club's rookie record for the month set by Marek Svatos in 2005-06. ... Colorado C Peter Mueller misses his fifth straight game and seventh overall with a head injury. ... Jarret Stoll's assist in the first period was his 299th career point.
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I love that look on The Dukes face!
21 -- There can be only one.
"He made life miserable for everyone else"
Me too!
OWL LINE!!! HOOO!!!! HOOOO!!!!
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, now in colour. Blood and Thunder Record: 6-3-0 (Total Record: 7-6-0)
by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 31, 2011 8:15 AM MDT up reply actions
Just about done with the game…had to leave for my hockey game in the middle of the second period. I watch about 3 minutes between each newscast. God love GameCenter Live!
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
Puck Daddy didn’t have to write all of that, he could have just recycled some old “the Avs will hit a wall” stories from two seasons ago. Would have saved him the trouble.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
I thought the Puck Daddy stuff was relatively begnin. I certainly don’t expect the Avs powerplay to hum along at 30% for the season.
(In this piece The writer is Harrison Mooney, who runs a Canucks blog, so he’s at least familiar with the Avs)
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Oct 31, 2011 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Check your meter. I was just giving a nod to those of us who battled against the “hit the wall/wheels fall off” parade of naysayers back during the last hot Avalanche start.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
My bad. Monday morning pre-Tea meter was functioning.
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Oct 31, 2011 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Irish Breakfast and Russian Black are soooooo yummy.
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge
by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Spice Traders Assam
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Oct 31, 2011 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions
When we consider these factors, it’s difficult to believe that Sutton will avoid a suspension.
Idiot. He’s already been suspended. He’s already missed one game. The only question is, how many more?
I just don’t get the motivation to head hunt like that. Yes, I suppose it might take out a talented player from an opposing team, but everybody hates you, you don’t get to play for a while, and some kid with a great future ahead of him could be seriously injured. Just no reason why he couldn’t have put a hip into Landy instead.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
I’m with you Joe. Obviously I don’t know what it’s like to be out with NHL caliber players. But watching my 5-year-old, and the other levels that play after he does…coaches push “Sticks down, always.” If your stick is down, your arms stay down…if you get your elbows up, you have to know you are doing it. And you are doing it for a reason
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
I wish all of you would shut up about it. None of you are experts…
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Wow
what a dick
THE COLORADO AVALANCHE HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP. RAYMOND BOURQUE: A DREAM COME TRUE!
And you know, you have seen the replays
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
So you’re an expert?
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 31, 2011 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Hate to see a winner like that get a suspension.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
by Joe Dunman on Oct 31, 2011 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope he tries pulling that shit with Shanahan.
Sh: “Did you know you got your elbow up?”
Su: “Are you asking me or telling me”
Sh: “I saw the replay”
Su: “So you’re an expert?”
Sh: ""6 games, dick"
Su: “Oh, so you’re an expert?”
Sh: “8 games, asshole”
Su: “I’d do it again”
Sh: “Really?”
Su: “Are you asking me or telling me?”
Sh “10 games, fucktard. We can do this all day”
Su: “Oh, so you’re an expert?”…………
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
by TheRed on Oct 31, 2011 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions 6 recs
FYI I totally pictured the scene from the Breakfast Club as I was reading this.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Oct 31, 2011 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
That was the inspiration. :-)
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
So, anyone know what time the hearing is? It should be announced today, correct?
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
I was wondering the same thing. Wasn’t it this morning at 10 ET? Does anyone even know where it is? Is it in New York? Weather delayed? What the heck??
I’d assume NY, and since it is getting on 5pm there, I had hoped to have an announcement soon.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
It was in NY. And it was 10 AM ET. No idea why we haven’t heard anything yet unless they’re still deliberating about it or something.
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge
by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions
According to HNIC radio, a decision won’t be made until tomorrow.
by some white guy on Oct 31, 2011 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions
I think it’s a habit at this point. Players have been taught to go for the big hit so long that they see an opportunity ti light someone up and they go for it out of instinct. I don’t think it’s a thought of “I’m going to hit his head” it’s “I’m going to light him up”. Other than the occasional Matt Cooke, I don’t think players are out to hurt other players on purpose.
So I don’t think Sutton was maliciously trying to crush Landeskog’s noggin. That said, there needs to be a shift, and players need to be told that “This type of hit used to be acceptable, now it’s not. You need to adjust your play” so suspensions and fines are appropriate as a behavior changing policy.
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Oct 31, 2011 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions
What about Floatski on Alfredsson the other day. The play was nowhere near Alfie, and Wolski went elbow first to the chops. First time he’s cared about something in a long time
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
So I don’t think Sutton was maliciously trying to crush Landeskog’s noggin.
I’d give him the benefit of the doubt if he didn’t already have a reputation for this kind of stuff.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
Jibbs,
I do think Sutton was trying to crush his mellon. He’s played long enough and had enough time to understand that he’s not going to make it to his far shoulder without going through his head. I think he was lining him up for a hit and deceided he didn’t want HIS body to pay the price of full contact so he clipped him.
I think the shift that needs to be made is that there’s no easy hits any more. If you’re going to blow someone up, your own body is going to have to pay some sort of price to do it. Clipping guys like he did to Landeskog will only lead to head shots and knees.
I'll keep this brief.
Agreed.
You don’t line your elbow up like this if you are not trying to do some damage:
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
I wish you could post pictures in the comments on TSN’s stories. This would probably shut up half those people who say he didn’t hit him with, or raise the elbow.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Oct 31, 2011 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Me too
I thought about referring them here but I don’t want to invite the trolls.
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge
by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, please don’t. I love banning people but I’ve got stuff to do today.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
Yea, I though about referring a few when you first posted it, but I can see the shit fest that could ensue if even half of them bothered to come over a take a look.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Oct 31, 2011 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Those people clearly are not experts.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
Did you happen to see Sutton squishing Hendricks’ head on the glass in the Oilers/Caps game a day or so before the Avs met them?
Can’t believe he didn’t get suspended for that, let alone The Kog’s hit.
"Time to bust out the increasingly shameful porn and let fly the balls of war!"
-AJ Hellofawaffle 2011
RIP Dan Wheldon, Marco Simoncelli
I did not
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Nov 1, 2011 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
really good game to watch last night
i enjoyed watching 2 very evenly matched teams play a game with lots of flow and physicality. nice to see Duchene start to pull out of this slump, though I’m not a huge fan of him and Jones together still. haven’t we tried this before, and there’s no chemistry?
Winnik led all forwards in ES ice time (and didn’t have a great game imo). more than Staz, more than Duchene, more than Landeskog. That’s nuts. This Sacco grinder hardon is really starting to piss me off.
Well, my guess on the Dutch/Jones thing is that Jonesy is playing differently than he was last year. He’s crashing the net and acting more like a power forward. So maybe that tweak will help maybe get some chemistry going between the two of them.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
I think he seems a little more physical this year, a little more willing to use his size. {shrugs} we’ll see how it goes.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
I always thought there was chemistry with jones and duchene… The line of Flash, Dtuchy, and Jones was our best out of all last year IMO
THE COLORADO AVALANCHE HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP. RAYMOND BOURQUE: A DREAM COME TRUE!
by Pyotr09AVS! on Oct 31, 2011 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Seriously?
1. Sacco knows more about hockey than you do.
2. They won.
Seriously.
1. I’m sure he does. That doesn’t mean he’s right all the time.
2. So did the Broncos last week. Winning doesn’t mean everything is hunky-dory.
.86 Dans
LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is
by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 31, 2011 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions
So did the Broncos last week. Winning doesn’t mean everything is hunky-dory.
Broncos: 2-5
Avs: 7-4
Comparing a healthy apple to a rotten one, here.
OWL LINE!!! HOOO!!!! HOOOO!!!!
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, now in colour. Blood and Thunder Record: 6-3-0 (Total Record: 7-6-0)
by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 31, 2011 8:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Unrelated: Jaromir Jagr is playing in the NHL again and he’s doing just as well as always. The man is not human.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
yeah, his worst season is 57 points and that was as a rookie. I’d take that
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 31, 2011 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
He also had a Stanley Cup in his rookie year. Nice way to start a career.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
His game is all about strength, smarts, and ridiculous hands. That kind of game goes on a lot longer than someone who’s all about speed (Selanne not withstanding).
In Sherman we trust
by Busted Twigg on Oct 31, 2011 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions
It’s just amazing to me how players like Jagr could score over 100 points a season almost at will. Seems like that level of talent is so much harder to find these days. I’m tempted to argue “different eras” but Jagr played during the trap-heavy/good-goalie mid-90s and early-00s and still managed to rack up huge numbers.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
Did anyone see Quick’s quote on Duchene’s goal? Nice words for #9
“He came down with a lot of speed. He made a great shot, he put it in a real great spot,” Quick said. “I don’t think me or the defenseman could’ve played it any differently. Got to tip the cap to a player like that when he does something like that.”
No soup for you!
Was this before or after he bitched like a 2 year old girl…at who? No one knows
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
So, um, is there going to be backlash over the Halloween pictures?
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 31, 2011 12:32 PM MDT reply actions
There already is. Folks were down right assholes to Bissonnette on Twitter.
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge
by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions
I was thinking more about the Avs Ghostbusters getups. Haven’t heard of them being mentioned yet.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 31, 2011 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions
I don’t find anything even remotely racist about Torres or Winnik’s costume
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 31, 2011 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Nor do I. Nor does Torres’ agent…who’d black. People get far too bent out of shape over non-issues.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I said this last night on twitter, and I’ll say it again: I am not at all qualified to determine whether they are racist, or offensive. I know that organizations and groups of people who are qualified (such as NAACP,) do find it offensive and racist. There are also black people who don’t, and orgs who don’t. (Much like anything deemed offensive)
I defer to them in making that determination.
(For the record, I don’t think they are racist {racism usually involves conscious or subconscious degradation, and I don’t think that was the intent in either costume} but they show really bad judgement and could be offensive.
But again, My opinion on this is a trivial one, as I suspect most others on this board is too)
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Oct 31, 2011 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions
doesn’t that apply to about half the halloween costumes out there? racist, sexist, specist, douchist, anti-dentite, anti-anti-dentite…etc.
You’re only going to go with half?
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 31, 2011 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions
douchist
i like this. I’ll be using this in the future
LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is
by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 31, 2011 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Back when JFK Jr. and Payne Stewart died, my roommate and his friend went as them for Halloween. It was brilliant. Stewart guy had used light bluish/white make up and had some icicles hanging here and there. My roommate was JFK Jr and had seaweed wrapped around him and stuff. They looked totally awesome. People were SO bent out of shape over it, cursing them and yelling at them or giving them the stink eye. It was silly. If someone there had personally known the guys, okay. It would have super bad form. But no one had ever even met them. Hell, most didn’t even know who Stewart was. Silly I say. People are way too sensitive.
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge
by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Eh, not sure that I disagree that people are way too sensitive, but a counter story:
My wife’s grandpa immigrated to the states as a young kid. He had two brothers who drowned in a neighborhood lake soon after moving to the states (like 5-8 yrs old). The local university paper ran a “ghost story” about the two kids, adding in lot’s of clearly made-up creepy details. It really upset my grandpa-in-law. My mother-in-law wrote the university paper about it and it turns out they wrote the story based on a city published “ghost story” as town folklore. It’s clearly understandable that my in-laws were upset about, but if you didn’t know the family, would probably think the whole thing is completely innocent.
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 31, 2011 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions
That’s not a counter story. 1. They are kids. You never do that about kids. 2. Your family was able to read it. I said it would be different if people at the party knew the men. But they didn’t. There wasn’t anything personal involved for anyone there.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Oi, not looking to say you’re wrong here, just that it’s ambiguous. How is anyone in that town supposed to know the story is at all true, let alone that family might still be there? Whereas the chances that you run into someone that takes the Kennedy deaths pretty seriously would be much better.
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 31, 2011 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh good lord.
Kinda hard to go as Jay-Z without looking black, isn’t it? I suppose I’m insensitive to Trolls because I painted myself green and went as Shreck? It’s Halloween, ffs.
I don’t believe any of this is racist in the slightest.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
It’s not even necessarily poking fun. Dude’s apparently a big fan. I think people just get too wound up in the whole PC thing to have fun sometimes. (As a related aside, I have had a guy dress up as me on Halloween before. He nailed it too, BTW. After the initial shock, it was quite flattering and extremely funny)
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
qtd in the article
The offensive nature of “blackface” is rooted in its representation of a racist archetype. Clearly, the Blackhawks players were dressed and made up as real people rather than a stereotype manifested through exaggerated appearance. Other than the color of their skin, there’s nothing stereotypical or embellished about their appearance as black men. It could be argued that their skin tone is as relevant as the jersey or fake tattoos.
That’s pretty much exactly the same argument I’d make about Torres as Jay-Z.
It's all about the O'
Yeah, that and the fact that once you’re a celebrity, race is a non issue, everything is fair game. Especially on Halloween.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
I am not the arbiter of morality when it comes to what is racist or otherwise inappropriate, but I know for certain that lots and lots and lots and lots of people generally consider white people in blackface (whether it was done to offend or not) to be highly offensive. That’s why, as a rule, I avoid risking public scorn by NEVER EVER EVER wearing anything that could remotely be considered blackface. Whether it’s right or not, or people are too sensitive or not, all I know is that you just don’t go down that road and risk getting labeled as an insensitive or otherwise oblivious asshole.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
Also, I will say that white people lecturing members of long-discriminated-against minorities to “lighten up” is seen as offensive by many people as well, so I try to avoid doing that, too. Choose your battles very wisely.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
What do did people do during Kentucky Derby parties when that line about “darkies” came up in the official state song of the state of Kentucky, My Old Kentucky Home?
(Just answered for myself. The state legislature officially revised the lyrics of the song in 1986. Because it was only then that people figured out that might be offensive, I guess.)
Well, though Kentucky wasn’t officially a Confederate state, you still have the same appeals to “tradition” and “culture” that you do elsewhere in the South. It’s a point of pride for many to be as offensive to others as possible.
As for Derby parties, the only thing anybody gives a shit about at those is alcohol, gambling, and giant hats.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
yeah, that’d fall under the “clearly offensive and just plain wrong” heading, IMO
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
I am not the arbiter of morality when it comes to what is racist or otherwise inappropriate
I’m not either, but as a member of a “long discriminated against minority”, I feel I’m in the same boat, white or not. In this case I see the issue as either getting the joke or not- not discrimination or insult. I’m not saying “lighten up about the 400yrs”, I’m saying “lighten up about something that clearly is not discriminatory or intended to insult”. I am solely the arbiter of my own morality concerning racism and appropriateness; I don’t view myself as a racist but YMMV. I can’t help that if you do, I’ll have to defer to IRL opinions of people who know me. In the meantime, I’m going to try to enjoy life and humor.
I do agree that some people are going to get offended anyway and that it is advisable to be judicious in your comedy sometimes- especially on the internet as context is mostly lost. OTOH, a world too scared of offending someone to have fun or make a joke is not going to be a very fun place. Of course there are examples of things that are clearly offensive and just plain wrong, but I don’t see it in this case. I guess I just follow the Dave Chappelle school of thought here. /shrugs.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
I agree with you that a world without offense is a boring one indeed. Also, some people are offended by EVERYTHING, and it’s unfair for everyone else to tip-toe around them. We definitely agree there.
BUT, you cited Dave Chappelle, who is able to make the important and hilarious criticisms of racism that he does because of his race. We all know that the exact same jokes or characters from a white comedian would not have the same effect, hilarity, or social impact. Just the nature of race in our country, for better or for worse.
I don’t think it’s being too sensitive, considering the history of slavery, racism, and general discrimination and bigotry that we’ve endured to find white people dressed in blackface to be out of line. Of course, reasonable people will differ. My comment was mostly pointed to the lack of judgment (or social awareness) on the part of the players who dress up like this. Granted, they’re all probably Canadians, so they don’t have same point of reference, but they play professionally in a league that is primarily located in the United States, and are covered by many in the US sports media who cater to U.S. audiences. A negative reaction was inevitable.
Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.
But what about all the other populations that have been/are being discriminated against? Women, the obese, amputees, burn victims, other races (Mexican, Native American, Asian, etc etc). You can’t go a single Halloween without seeing a guy dressed as a girl, usually making a caricature-style representation, or someone all stuffed with pillows to look fat. Where do we draw the line?
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge
by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Also, gays? That one happens all the time without most people batting an eye. My point is that if you’re going to find the one thing offensive, you best be finding it all offensive.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions
groupthink, that’s where.
it’s passe to yell about racism in cases like these. that’s why people care, they get to feel good about themselves in a social context. not enough people care about the other minorities you list, plain and simple. People suck.
not enough people care about the other minorities you list
Yup, exactly my point (which was pretty much rhetorical in nature cuz we all know the answer). But that’s why I’m reluctant to say, “No one should ever do that, dammit!” without people stepping up and saying it about all the other “offensive” acts.
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge
by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions
if it’s all wrong, I’d rather call out some of it than none of it, tbh. but that doesn’t make the people that call out others like we’re discussing here any less of hypocrite ego strokers either.
the right thing to do, imo, is to call out racism and such in not-public forums. it removes your own self-serving motivations (and probably some defensiveness too) from the equation. the whole discussion might actually get somewhere! Crazy, I know!
it removes your own self-serving motivations (and probably some defensiveness too) from the equation. the whole discussion might actually get somewhere! Crazy, I know!
I was going to say that anyone that wishes to discuss this over a beer with me sometime is welcome. Too much is lost (or found) in internet conversations.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
I find white people yelling about the offensiveness in the same opinion as white people saying it isn’t offensive: mainly that they are woefully unqualified to have an informed opinion on the offensiveness of it.
I’m not sure why white people feel like they are somehow qualified to give any kind of opinion on whether it “is” or “isn’t” offensive or racist to other people and cultures.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Oct 31, 2011 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions
No it’s not. But It’s probably the majority (since white people are in the majority)
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Oct 31, 2011 4:23 PM MDT up reply actions
(since white people are in the majority)
Depends upon the geographic location of which you are speaking. Latinos are now the majority in California.
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: a mean, junkyard dog looking for revenge
by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 31, 2011 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Being unqualified to have an informed opinion about hockey anything doesn’t stop anyone here in the world, no matter how big or small the issue, no matter how simple or complex, no matter how black, white, or all shades of gray in between.
(I understand there’s a difference in relative importance between hockey and race. That doesn’t change my point one bit.)
It’s the same reason why we feel qualified to give any kind of opinion about anything else: Because we’re a nation of narcissists, and we love to hear ourselves talk. We are not only in the habit of giving opinions, we have many mediums in which to do it. Many of us have been told from a very early age that there are no wrong answers. We, like small children and animals, love to play with our own poop because we believe that everything we create is fascinating. Ribbons for everyone!
(Speaking of opinions, comedian Rob Delaney has a really funny and very NSFW one about Kim Kardashian’s marriage woes. You’ll be a better person for reading it.)
We, like small children and animals, love to play with our own poop because we believe that everything we create is fascinating.
Jibblebaby is extremely offended
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Oct 31, 2011 6:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Better yet, you might be both a more understanding person and (hopefully) spouse for reading it.
Take a step back, breathe deeply, and chill the fuck out. Then realize you’re an asshole too. Then fuck in the shower. I think I might tell everyone that. Thanks, Dan.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Dave Chappelle also dressed in whiteface. i think he was able to get away with it a) because he did it to everybody, and b) because it was wicked funny. He has said some of his black friends told him one of his skits set back everything they had been trying to do for years. His response was along the lines of “too bad”. It’s not funny because he is black, it was just funny.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Mr. Kroenke helps his team win
Here is Mr. Kroenke addressing Arsenal before a recent training session. Arsenal, which is strongly guided by the principles of spending money very, very wisely, then went out and defeated Chelsea, the cash-rich and spending-happy plaything of Russian bazillionaire Roman Abramovich, 5-3. Mr. Kroenke was in attendance.
Well done, Mr. Kroenke.
The Telegraph, reputedly a big newspaper that employs fact-checkers and editors, can’t quite seem to spell Mr. Kroenke’s name correctly.
Don’t make me rethink C6’s status as white knight.
The Avs finished 5-33 to finish last season. Did they get so much as a phone call?
Mr. Kroenke was in attendance.
I think I now I know how my dog feels when she sees me playing with other dogs at the dog park.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
F this. Occupy Enos.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Oct 31, 2011 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions
It was a good weekend for Mr. Kroenke
Arsenal won. The Avs won. The Rams won. And the St. Louis Baseball Cardinals, where the great Enos Slaughter and Stanley Musial played, won the World Series. I imagine Mr. Kroenke’s happy today. And if Mr. Kroenke’s happy, I’m happy.
7-4 is good and surprising. But if I have to watch Joe Kim Hlinkstrom take one more shift on the top two lines, my head will asplode. This team has a ton of salary space and is one or two top tier wingers away from being truly competitive for the long haul this season. I just hate to see this opportunity wasted.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Oct 31, 2011 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions
How far the Telegraph has fallen.
OWL LINE!!! HOOO!!!! HOOOO!!!!
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, now in colour. Blood and Thunder Record: 6-3-0 (Total Record: 7-6-0)
by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 31, 2011 11:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Fun Fact of the Day:
The Avs “local” broadcast area covers nearly 16 million people spread out across 9 states and 700,000 square miles (22% of the Continental US). I haven’t done the math, but area-wise, I think it may be the largest in the NHL.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
Yeah, but only as far South and West as half-way to Calgary.
In Sherman we trust
by Busted Twigg on Oct 31, 2011 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Nah, Gotta be Dallas’.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
does Toronto and Pittsburgh count?
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 31, 2011 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions
No, because they don’t have any obnoxious and factually incorrect sayings in their state about their “size”
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
No Sutton news until tomorrow?
Gene Principe with the latest.
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Gene Principe
Sportsnet’s John Shannon reporting that there will not be a decision on Andy Sutton until tomorrow.
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Gotta look at those replays carefully!
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
Having trouble locating an expert
LANDESKOG!!!!!
How Swede it is
by Cole D Hamilton on Oct 31, 2011 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Shanny was on his way to the meeting but got kicked off the plane. Flight attendant told him to put his tray table up before the flight started. He asked if she was asking him or telling him. Started a whole brouhaha and the air marshall kicked him off.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Oct 31, 2011 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Hopefully Shanahan decided to show Sutton in person exactly what he did wrong… And Sutton is either still unconscious or too concussed to comprehend his punishment so they have to inform family members first.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
I dunno, man, but it’s making me nervous the same way it makes me nervous when you think a goal is a sure thing but then the review in Toronto takes way longer when it should and then Stephen Walkom does his thing and starts to give the decision and you’re like “hmm, Stephen Walkom has a weird look on his face, like he’s pissed off that his decision just got overturned” and then you turn to your wife and you go “hun, I don’t have a good feeling about this” only she’s not watching the game or listening to you, she’s playing Plants vs. Zombies on her laptop, only it’s the paid version, and at first you want to say “hey, stop playing Plants vs. Zombies and watch the game because hockey is awesome,” only instead you say WHY DID YOU PAY MONEY FOR THAT STUPID GAME? and that’s when she says YOU ARE SO CHEAP WE HAVEN’T GONE OUT TO DINNER IN A MONTH AND I HAVEN’T BOUGHT A NEW TOP IN 6 WEEKS and then you’re like “uh oh, I am FUCKED for starting this argument because a new top is like between $8-$80 whereas Plants vs. Zombies is only like $3.99” and then I say “Honey, listen…” and she’s all like DON’T HONEY ME and it’s right around that time that Stephen Walkom fucks you and says no goal.
by DiD on Oct 31, 2011 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions 9 recs
Rec’d for prosperity… maybe
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Oct 31, 2011 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Probably needs more time to produce his video after advising Sutton of his decision.
I'll keep this brief.
Agreed. I thought it was pretty bad. And his statement that he’d do it again should get him an extra few games, imo. I wonder if this is the first test of the “Shanahan hates the Avs” factor?
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 1, 2011 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions
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