Kyle Cumiskey Reportedly on Waivers
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 7, 2011 10:46 AM MDT
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As featured in Patrit19's fanshot, Bob MacKenzie has tweeted that the Avalanche have waived Kyle Cumiskey. The move is a little odd in the timing, with the season starting tomorrow and the final roster already set (Cumiskey has been on the IR). Apparently, he is healthy now (as some practice-watchers have speculated) and will head to Lake Erie if he clears waivers.
We thought this move would be coming at some point...just not one day before the season opener.
UDPATE: The move has been confirmed by the Denver Post.
Another UPDATE: Post practice interviews that include Sacco talking about Cumiskey. He did a great job of dodging any hard-hitting question...
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Not quite sure what to say on this one…he will do well in Erie!
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so, I don’t know if this means he was really hurt or that Sherman wasn’t able to find any takers for him
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 7, 2011 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions
I’m betting on the latter.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 7, 2011 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Agreed, the GM’s knew that he was either not worth trading for or gambled on claiming him off waivers. I don’t think he’ll make it through waivers or re-entry waivers. He has atalent.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
why would you claim him if you don’t know if he can play or not. Besides he’s probably not in game shape right now.
Chip, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 7, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
He doesn't have to clear re-entry waivers
At least not according to this piece by DDC and his explanation near the bottom of that story (second to last comment).
correct. Cumiskey makes $105,000 in the AHL, the exact threshold for players before they become eligible for re-entry waivers.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 7, 2011 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions
and I didn’t know that either. Well knowing is 1/2 the battle.
Chip, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 7, 2011 1:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Ah, I didn’t know that. Then this move could have been called weeks ago.
Chip, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 7, 2011 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions
atalent
Indeed. And that one talent is speed.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 7, 2011 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions
I’m guessing he’ll clear. Who knows, he is still pretty young…if he works hard he could still turn into a serviceable NHL player someday.
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by creamy on Oct 7, 2011 10:51 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
That’s what the couple in fertility treatments said.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 7, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Then grows up in Vegas and comes knocking on your door to introduce your grandkids.
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Exactly! That’s the ugly downside that the Vegas tourism board doesn’t want you to know about.
by DiD on Oct 7, 2011 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Hmmmm, would be quite an interesting story if that happened to me.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 7, 2011 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions
You go to Vegas, have a one night stand, get into a car accident, end up in a coma for a year, give birth well in the coma, the kid goes up for adoption, you wake up from the coma and go home, 25 years later the kid shows up on your door with a significat other and two small children.
Sounds like a Lifetime movie.
Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.
Sounds like a Lifetime movie.
And you know this because….?
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 7, 2011 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Dated a girl for two years whose favorite channel was the lifetime channel, second favorite was We. I couldn’t tell you how many of those crappy shit movies I had to watch.
Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.
Were there any good ones about shit?
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The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, now in colour. DSB Record: 1-3-0
by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 7, 2011 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow, I'm so so sorry
I sure hope you got a lot of make up sex for that. I don’t know if I would watch those channels for anyone but maybe my mom. But then she wouldn’t ever watch them, so it looks like I’m safe.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 7, 2011 3:03 PM MDT up reply actions
I can’t imagine anyone here is shocked by this. I guess maybe a little disappointed that we didn’t/haven’t moved him for a future asset.
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by Americanario on Oct 7, 2011 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions
He’d be a top pairing guy on half the teams in the league. Someone will snap him up.
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by burgundyRainbow on Oct 7, 2011 11:01 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't know if I can take you seriously anymore...
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only HALF the teams?
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This is interesting
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Maybe Leafs will pick him up
They seem to like our players these days (Liles, Dupuis).
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You’d think they would have backed off former Avs after we gave them the Finger.
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Did you ever see the post where they pretty much confirmed that JFJ got Finger and Sauer mixed up? Pretty darn funny.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 7, 2011 1:08 PM MDT up reply actions
no
they like former Avs who can play, eso. Liles. That proves the Avs are bottom feeders. Liles is exactly what they need and I’m not saying he’s a 5M a year guy but his points and offense could have helped a lot. People who say he’s not a good scorer and wouldn’t help on PP are clueless. Cumiskey will get claimed I think but so be it.
by the cool breeze on Oct 7, 2011 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions
I doubt it; not because of his play, but based on his injury history. About Cumiskey, I mean.
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that would be the reason if he doesn’t but he’s young, can skate and lots of teams are light at D, he has a small contract so I think he will but either way we will know what teams think of him.
by the cool breeze on Oct 7, 2011 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm cornfused
Didn’t the Avs just sign him to a contract not even a month ago? Why would the Avs sign him just to put him on waivers?
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I think the clock was ticking and they were required to sign him or release him at some point before start of season
Any experts please chime in here.
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by Schwerepunkt on Oct 7, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Well
I’m pretty sure the contract he signed was 2-way
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by LandoCalrissian on Oct 7, 2011 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
they want to send him to Lake Erie and he has to clear waivers to do that
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 7, 2011 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
Then, is the theory to keep him in the Avs system for another year to see if he improves and or just to have another experienced able healthy body around in case we have the rash of injuries we had last year?
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by Light the Lamp on Oct 7, 2011 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions
If he plays decently he’d be claimed on re-entry. He’s either stuck in the AHL all year then a FA or he gets called up and claimed.
Chip, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 7, 2011 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions
According to DiD via DDC he doesn’t have to clear re-entry waivers. Comment and link to old post above.
Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.
Yup; he is safe from re-entry waivers, which I cannot imagine was a coincidence. They’ll send him down, see how he does in the AHL, and then bring him back up when injuries hit / if he’s doing well. Even tho I mock it constantly, if he somehow becomes super-awesome at the AHL level, we could still trade him away for some depth, but nothing remotely significant.
Just let the kid marinate down there for a few months and see what comes of it.
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if it was a 2 way contract
he would not need to clear waivers to join, i believe
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2 way contract is about money, not waivers. He will need to clear on the way down but he won’t if he’s recalled.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 7, 2011 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Sometimes I can’t tell if the two-way waiver ignorance is legit not knowing what’s going on or more Pickard-to-the-monsters foolishness. It’s a legit confusing topic but I feel like someone gets corrected everyday
It's all about the O'
waiver rules are pretty confusing, but I don’t get why this one gets perpetuated so much
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 7, 2011 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions
NHL 12 has it wrong.
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by Busted Twigg on Oct 7, 2011 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice avatar.
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The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, now in colour. DSB Record: 1-3-0
by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 8, 2011 4:17 AM MDT up reply actions
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by MalachiConstant on Oct 7, 2011 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions
pair of docks
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by Americanario on Oct 7, 2011 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions
A pair of docks sucks.
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This signature sucks.
by Tony Trujillo on Oct 7, 2011 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Pair of dockers?
Chip, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Oct 7, 2011 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions
We thought this move would be coming at some point…just not one day before the season opener.
They’d have to pay him an NHL game check for the first game if he’s on IR and still with the big club. This way it’s at the AHL rate.
Smaaarrrtt! and frickin’ cheap.
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by Busted Twigg on Oct 7, 2011 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Viewing the new logo. It’s sweet BTW
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New Logo
Wow, it really is the new logo—I like it, like it, yes I do!!!
by Uncle Richie on Oct 7, 2011 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Isnt tonight the first night for the Monsters? Wouldnt that explain the timing?
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hiding, no and yes
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Oct 7, 2011 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Is anyone else a bit saddened by this?
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I wish him a lot of luck. He went a lot farther than most 7th-rounders do. Seemed like a quiet guy who didn’t exude a ton of confidence on or off the ice. Coaches saw something in him, because he played a ton of minutes when he was in the lineup. Kind of a tweener – not great a offense or defense.
I won’t soon forget his 1-on-4 OT winner against the Thrashers.
by DiD on Oct 7, 2011 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions
And, for all you glory-hunting, frontrunning, johnny-come-lately fans who jumped on the Avs bandwagon in the past year and haven’t seen that goal, here it is.
Avs historians also treasure this clip because, if you watch very closely, you’ll notice that Hannan picks up a rare plus on that play.
by DiD on Oct 7, 2011 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions 6 recs
Thanks for posting that! Such an awesome moment.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 7, 2011 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Not for Thrasher fans, oh… wait.
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by Paul X on Oct 7, 2011 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see what you did there.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 7, 2011 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions
I was at that game behind the ATL goal. Awesome to see live.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Oct 7, 2011 7:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Lucky.
It looks like a freakin’ sweet goal on youtube – I can’t imagine what it would have been like live.
The only goal I’ve seen live was from David Jones last year. The good guys ended up losing 1-3 to the Wild. Hopefully they’ll be able to beat Tampa Bay this year though. With any luck, my fantasy drafting of Stamkos will jinx him and his team sufficiently enough that the Avs will be able to pull off the upset. We’ll just ignore the fact I drafted 6 Avs as well…..
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NOOOOOOOO!!! WHY DUN’T SHURMURN TRAED HIM FOR ATLEEST A SECUND! WERE JUST LETING HIM GO FOR NUTHEEN! WAT!!! HELL BE PIKED UP 4 SUR!!
In all seriousness, hopefully Cummers can find a place somewhere.
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The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, now in colour. DSB Record: 1-3-0
by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 7, 2011 2:22 PM MDT reply actions
HALLELUJAH! No offense to Cumiskey, because I am sure he is a very nice guy, but his hockey “skills” were very limited. But for some reason people like the coach had a Quenneville like fascination with him
Riku Hahl was over-rated
Does anyone else think he could have benefited from a little more “development”?
Rawr Rawr Rawr, no one understands you, she-bear
/raises hand
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by Cheryl Bradley on Oct 7, 2011 4:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Does anybody else think it’s not too late to “develop” him?
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I don’t see why this is such a big deal. He is being sent down, and has to pass through waivers. His development isn’t stopping, and the team isn’t necessarily giving up on him. He missed most of last year and most of preseason; this is the logical time to send him down to get his legs back under him without risking someone else snatching him up. Its not like we are cutting him loose; cutting him completely.
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I’m not saying it’s a big deal. I’m just saying it seems like he was brought up a little young.
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Sorry, Paul, this was as much in response to this entire thread as to you. I just mean that people are saying things like “I always liked him, good luck Kyle!”, and “Good riddance, we don’t need him clogging up the works.” Its not like he’s been shitcanned, or traded. He’s just being sent down, and we can very possibly see him again if he does well in LE and the mainstays get injured. Who knows.
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Seems that Barriott and Gaunce have passed him in the pecking order. Siemens will pass him in a few years. So that’s four. Not sure how much more developing you can do with a guy who’s already played with the big boys for 132 games over parts of the past four seasons. He turns 25 in two months. I think he’s about as finished as he’s ever gonna get.
It’s not you, Kyle, it’s us. We’ve finally embraced a defensive philosophy that makes us bigger and tougher to play against. No room in that group for a guy who gets pushed around pretty easily.
by DiD on Oct 8, 2011 2:45 AM MDT up reply actions
2010 Team Canada
Cumiskey has the wheels that made him a pick for Team Canada at the WHC. That shows just how much potential he has. I’d like to see him develop. Speed in hockey is like height in B-ball. You can’t teach it.
...holy freaking fuck, snakes!
Speed in hockey is like height in B-ball. You can’t teach it.
To paraphrase Gollum:
“Teaching the nasstty little Hobbitss to play defenssssses. We can’t teach it!!”
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