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Avalanche at Wild, Game 19 Preview

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Tonight the Avalanche will be in Minnesota to take on the Wild for the first time this season. I will be looking for the team to make some amends for the lackluster effort during the second half of the game against the Penguins on Tuesday night.

Last year the Wild were able to take four out of the six games against our boys in Burgundy and Blue and will looking to continue their stellar play and challenge the Dallas Stars for the lead atop Western Conference standings, they currently sit in 2nd place, just 4 points behind the Stars. By the way, if you would've told me that it was going to be the Minnesota Wild that would be leading the Northwest Division this far into the season, I would've told you not a chance. However, there they sit ahead of the defending President's Trophy winning Vancouver Canucks and the young upstart team in Edmonton.

For the Wild, they are starting an extended home stand where they will be looking to substantially increase their lead in the Northwest Division. During their last game Tuesday night against the lowly Blue Jackets, they came back from 2 goals down to win 4-2. Sounds like another game that was played on Tuesday night.

For our beloved Avalanche the road games were our specialty during the month of October. Since the calendar turned to November, yeah not so much. As a matter of fact, the Avs are having a hard time winning no matter where the game is being played. During the month of November the team is just 1-5-1 so far. I've got to think that if this play keeps up Joe Sacco's days have got to be numbered. Anyone have Bob Hartley's number?

Right now it's the same old story for the Avs on the injury front. Peter Mueller is still trying to shake concussion symptoms that have been bugging him for way longer than I would care to think about. Brandon Yip is still out with a broken forearm. The WIld will not have the services of Marek Zidlecky, Marco ScandellaGuillaume Latendresse, Mike Lundin, or  Greg Zanon.

The Avs power play is still currently ranked number 1 in the NHL despite going 0 for 2 on the power play on Tuesday in Pittsburgh and the penalty kill ranks 27th with only a 76.2% kill rate. Thankfully though the Minnesota Wild's power play is ranked 25th, only converting on 12.7% of their chances. I still would like to keep any power play with perennial Avs killers Dany Heatly and Devon Setoguchi off the ice as much as possible. Their PK is just about in the middle of the NHL (17th) killing off 82.6% of the power plays they face.

I will be looking for the Avs to make a strong statement in this game and recover from their collapse against the Crosby-less Penguins. If not, the seat Joe Sacco sits on is only going to get hotter.

How do you feel about this game, please share your thoughts in the comments below.

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Well I know I wouldn’t call Bob Hartley, his reputation with younger players was “less than outstanding.” Imagine him on a team full of them

Just win a damn game, and do it without the heart attacks. Is that too much to ask?

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 8:07 AM MST reply actions  

At least he isn’t as bad as Graham James.

Whenever I want to save something I don't click "Save"... I click "Semyon Varlamov it"

by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Nov 17, 2011 4:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Yip

Isn’t he back now?
Hope we play Jiggy tonight
Fuck the adjectives

Living in the D, but It's All About The A.

by Avalanche318 on Nov 17, 2011 8:08 AM MST reply actions  

Yip still needs a few days to get ready, or at least that’s what Sacco said before the Pitt game

Jiggy is in goal tonight, reported yesterday

And indeed.

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 8:10 AM MST up reply actions  

I believe Dater said Giggy will be starting today. And Daily Faceoff has him confirmed as the starter.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 8:10 AM MST up reply actions  

A game against the Wild…..good I need some help falling asleep lately.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 8:11 AM MST reply actions  

Works better than the AD cocktail (Ambien and Gin)

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 8:12 AM MST up reply actions  

I should buy some beer for tonight. I’m probably going to need one during the game. Ugh. Games against Minnesota and Phoenix are just no fun.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 8:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Her, sleeping pills work wonders.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

They do…though during a 6-month period of insomnia a few years back I almost got addicted to them

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

That’s frighteningly easy to do. Almost as bad as painkillers.

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Oxycotin.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

That shit scares me.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions  

My friend was totally addicted to it. Bad stuff.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, the docs kept trying to put me on it. I was like “I’ll stick to Advil”.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

had a death this AM. Poss oxy related. It’s bad stuff.

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

As Bubs would say, “Shit just got real.”

So sorry you had that kind of morning, babe.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 12:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks.
I actually took it over for the night shift girl. She did all the hard work.
It does tend to put things in perspective though. Especially when you’re talking about someone in their 30’s.

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I hear Joe needs some for a “class project.”

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:13 PM MST up reply actions  

95 Oxy pills have been “admitted to evidence” if you know what I mean.

Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.

by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Nothing works better than Ambien and gin.

by DiD on Nov 17, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Xanax and Jager.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 3:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Vicodin and Scotch.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Heroine and Everclear

My Eno$ itches

by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

True story.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 3:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Haven’t we established (via Dater’s continued insistence on the subject) that Sacco’s job is not in jeopardy?

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 8:25 AM MST reply actions  

If we can’t trust Dater, who can we trust?

Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.

by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 8:27 AM MST up reply actions  

It probably isn’t (because he’s probably cheap enough), but if this keeps up, it SHOULD be

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Fuck that. Someone is paying for this shit.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 17, 2011 8:37 AM MST up reply actions  

What did Bernie do to you?

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 8:45 AM MST up reply actions  

SO does Bernie stay in Sacco’s doghouse? Where does he go when others are put there? Or does Sacco have multiple doghouses?

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Bernie’s rents from Sacco, and that dog house can get pretty crowded some weeks.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 10:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Steering away from the joke, Bernie has two dog houses: the one that’s near section 120 (or whatever it is) for the kids and the one next to the teams’ locker rooms for bringing home the bitches. He has a big “Beware of Dog” sign on the one near the locker rooms, you know, so he won’t be disturbed when he’s getting his swag on.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey, dogs get frisky at times.

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 10:43 AM MST up reply actions  

Bernie, even for a dog, you a dog!

Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.

by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 17, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Cheryl how do you know so much about Bernie’s doghouses? It almost sounds like you have inside knowledge of the comings and goings of Bernie’s doghouse of love.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 11:43 AM MST up reply actions  

No comment.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

She has had to run errands for him…fill his keg?

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

YES! That’s IT! Yup. Totally. It’s all about the keg.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

New marketing slogan

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

And I thought it was all about that time you disappeared while we were touring The Can ;)

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

SSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 12:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Crap!
Sorry, I forgot. :/

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

The real question is: Was she using Bernie to get to Liles, or was she using Liles to get to Bernie?

by sheese on Nov 17, 2011 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I spat Golden Grahams all over my table after reading that Pinchy. Hilarity indeed!

by quietstorm560 on Nov 17, 2011 8:47 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Slightly Tasteful Fudge Underpants

by pra4snow on Nov 17, 2011 8:49 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

So, question:

Do you all think the avs will give up 4 goals in the first or will they wait til the third to give them up?

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 8:31 AM MST reply actions  

I think they’ll finally break from habit and allow four goals in the SECOND period.

Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.

by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah….what he said

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 8:37 AM MST up reply actions  

that would be something new at least.

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 8:42 AM MST up reply actions  

I think they should split the difference of the last few games, and wait for the 2nd

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Beat you to it.

Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.

by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 8:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Dammit!

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 8:36 AM MST up reply actions  

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

I think it all depends on whether the defense decides to start out lazy or become lazy later in the game and not watch for the cherry pickers coming from the backside.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

It would be nice to get a W, but I just hope they play for a full 60 minutes…although hoping for that is like hoping Sacco changes strategy on-the-fly or the Avs give credentials to deserving bloggers or Porter turning into a 50-goal scorer or-
(OK, OK, we GET it, we’re also frustrated, chill out)

Sorry, get a little carried away…hoping for a good game, but I’m not holding my breath….I mean, getting beat by the Adjectives is one thing, but cyanosis would put a real damper on the day…lol.

"They called tripping!? Where did THAT happen?"
"On the ice."
".........my...brain hurts...."

by StoneCutter013 on Nov 17, 2011 8:34 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

Voices in my head….

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 8:45 AM MST up reply actions  

I miss Paul and his Adjective hatred.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 8:41 AM MST reply actions  

Seriously.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 8:43 AM MST up reply actions  

At some point don’t you just switch up the pk to see if something else works better?

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 8:43 AM MST reply actions  

I think that’s too logical for Sacco & Co. to handle.

"They called tripping!? Where did THAT happen?"
"On the ice."
".........my...brain hurts...."

by StoneCutter013 on Nov 17, 2011 8:46 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

He is

He’s starting Giggy

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Small step in the right direction.

I’m waiting for other in-game type decisions though. Like Quenneville in Chicago looking at his PP, which should kick ass with Toews, Kane, Hossa and the like…but it was worst in the league. Then he puts Steve f’n Montador, and Marcus Kruger on the 2nd PP unit, and they start potting PP goals like crazy.

Obviously the Avs don’t need much help in the PP department, but it’s outside the box thinking like that which sometimes pays off

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 8:51 AM MST up reply actions  

but it’s outside the box thinking like that which sometimes pays off

I don’t think Sponge Sacco Square Head is capable of that kind of thinking.

2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: Defying Corsi

by hockeymom on Nov 17, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Sponge Sacco Square Head…that made me lol.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

It’s a start, my novel idea would be to pressure the point occasionally when they have the puck and don’t sit back down low and let them set up. Maybe puting a stick in the passing lanes could be encouraged.

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 9:00 AM MST up reply actions  

See, I was thinking they might want to keep that seldom important and never used “slot” area clear of opposing players.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 9:01 AM MST up reply actions  

you would think? The box they play from 1982 is ridiculous, teams just pass it around and then score like it’s pee wees. All the other teams I see play the pressure pk. Sacco will be gone, trust me. Mainly b/c they have little money left to pay him and their will be a revolt from the fans at some pt, which means they won’t sell tickets.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 9:09 AM MST up reply actions  

there, sorry grammar nazis

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 9:10 AM MST up reply actions  

I hope Sacco looked at the Pens PK very carefully the other day.

Winnik and McClemment have been doing pretty well up top, but when you compare the play down low, the Pens’ defensemen and Fleury look like they are reading each other’s minds.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 9:14 AM MST up reply actions  

I have seen the Avs being very aggressive on the PK. It funny how those few times seem to be the PK’s that don’t result in a goal against.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m surprised he hasn’t started using O’Reilly on the PK, considering he’s one of the best defensive forwards they have.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 10:38 AM MST up reply actions  

no shit, why he’s not out there is enough reason to fire sacco. That’s incredible to me

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Because he’s been playing tons of minutes at even strength on offense. He’s been more valuable as a point-scorer than a point-preventer so far.

Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.

by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 10:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Was about to say this. Early on in the season, that was definitely a legitimate excuse. Maybe not so much now.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree he’s been valuable as a point scorer, but after looking at the PK data for that article, I think it’s time to switch some of his focus.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Worth a shot.

Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.

by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I guess I figure if Landeskog is getting 1:26 on the PK and 1:50 on the PP, you could put O’Reilly out there, too. He’s only getting 1 minute ES and :30 PP more per game than Landy, and 1:00 less on the PK.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

It’s not like O’Reilly can’t handle the extra minutes. All that stair-running has made him a fit young man. Ladies…

Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.

by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Very true.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

....

sorry I was watching… what were you saying?

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions  

I think he is in plenty of shape, being the rink rat he is

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Way more skating at center than wing though.

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

True. Who’s the primary forechecker on the PK? Wing or Center?

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Last week I suggested that they play Stastny, O’Reilly, and Hejduk as the 3rd, 4th, and 5th PK forwards. I think that’s an easy fix. Last Saturday night Don Cherry made the point that you don’t play your superstars on the PK, because of the risk of injury (he was talking about Tim Connelly, so “superstar” was a loose term, but still). Now, I don’t automatically agree with that, but didn’t we lose Stats in the past because of a broken bone or two on the PK?

I think it’s too much to ask Landeskog to kill penalties. I know a lot of people point to Sean Coutourier in Philly, but last time I looked, Sean Coutourier wasn’t having a lot of success killing penalties. Playing defense is a veteran’s game, it’s not for young guys.

I think that, ideally, you have your 3rd/4th liners as your main penalty killers. But after McClement and Winnik come off the ice on the PK, that’s when we struggle.

There are signs. In the last game, Stastny played 1:09 on the PK, O’Reilly played 0:53.

Oh, and one last thing – O’Reilly has been getting scored on at an amazing rate on the PK this year. Four GA for O’Reilly in 7:36 of SH TOI.

by DiD on Nov 17, 2011 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t know, I think some rookies can handle killing penalties. Last year the Caps had rookies John Carlson and Marcus Johansson, and Karl Alzner, who was practically a rookie, killing penalties and they all did very well. But that may be more the exception than the rule. The Caps also use 1st-2nd line guys to kill penalties too, although not as much this season since Boudreau decided to stop killing Backstrom by making him play on the PK, PP, and 1st line and taking a ton of d-zone draws, and Semin is in his doghouse or something so he no longer kills penalties (Semin actually really likes playing on the PK). Maybe this is another reason to lust after Semin, he would enjoy playing on the PK for you.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 17, 2011 3:57 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s a good point about Carlson and Alzner, and I have to admit I was only focusing on forwards rather than defensemen. Thanks for pointing that out.

I don’t know the Caps too well, but it looks like 4 of their top 5 PK forwards last year were closer to 30 than 20.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20112WSHFAFALL&sort=shortHandedTimeOnIce&viewName=timeOnIce

This year, their top 7 PK forwards are all closer to 30 than 20.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20122WSHFAFALL&sort=shortHandedTimeOnIce&viewName=timeOnIce

by DiD on Nov 17, 2011 4:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Last season, Backstrom (23 yrs) was 3rd, Johansson (20 yrs) was 6th in forwards. For defense, Carlson (20-21 yrs) was 2nd and Alzner (22 yrs) was 5th.

This season, Backstrom hasn’t been killing penalties because a decision Boudreau made not to wear him out so much, not because he’s bad at it. Johansson is ranked 8th. Carlson and Alzner are 1 and 2 for defense this season on PK time.

I asked someone who watches more teams than I and she said Burmistrov was pretty good on the PK last season, he ranked 6th for forwards for the Thrashers. PK Subban also played a lot. Check out this link for rookies last season

Justin Falk is another rookie with a lot of PK ice time this season. Here’s the link for this season for rookies.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 17, 2011 5:21 PM MST up reply actions  

So you know how I’ve argued that the Avs have really been the victim of bad bounces and bad goaltending. That they are possessing the puck and once they get better goaltending and their unfortunate random chances regress to the mean the Avs will pull out of this tailspin…

…well The wild are the exact fucking opposite they aren’t getting good possession, and they are getting fortunate bounces and stellar (unsustainable) goaltending.

Just think how good it’s going to feel watching both these teams regress to the mean. IT’s going to be glorious.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 8:47 AM MST reply actions  

I am liking you right now.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 8:47 AM MST up reply actions  

See, Corsi isn’t all bad…

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

But it’s not all good either

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 8:49 AM MST up reply actions  

No, but I have accepted that the Avs play is not indicitive of their record and some teams have the opposite. IT’s why I am less upset about the bad record.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

If only the league determined who made the playoffs by some other standard.

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 8:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Calgary wins all the trophies

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 8:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.

by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I was looking for a smaller size but couldn’t find one. Sorry everybody.

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 9:00 AM MST up reply actions  

TNWSS

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Surprised it took an hour and a half for somebody to run with that one.

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 10:41 AM MST up reply actions  

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Put a Flames Jersey on him PLEASE.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 9:00 AM MST up reply actions  

And she wins the internet!

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 9:20 AM MST up reply actions  

MY god, this might have to be my new avatar. Holy shit.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 9:21 AM MST up reply actions  

See? Boba Fett was nobodies bitch

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 9:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Where is the pissing of the rainbow?

My Eno$ itches

by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 10:21 AM MST up reply actions  

i still prefer the one of batman killing a great white shark with a lightsaber

by chetmanley on Nov 17, 2011 9:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Diversity is good

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 9:30 AM MST up reply actions  

100% Awesome.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

$50 on Blip

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions  

I’d take it. Always go with the guy in the mask with the prehensile tail. Especially if the opponent is some deformed beaver with dinosaur feet.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions  

“Furious George what have they done to your face? Smithers this monkey is going to need most of your skin.”

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

also, what’s more wrong, the wonder twins or batman there?

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Holy shit, the Twins are awesome!

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by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

I love the look on Robin’s face also.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I love the look on Robin Jace’s face also.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Or Robin’s too. I don’t know. If you know.. you’re into that sort of thing.. Wonder Women’s ass….. IGNORE ME!!

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 12:05 PM MST up reply actions  

lol

2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: Defying Corsi

by hockeymom on Nov 17, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Awesome, but not enough Brak.

by DiD on Nov 17, 2011 3:58 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s in the bottom right corner that may be getting cut off if you don’t have settings for wide images.

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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 4:00 PM MST up reply actions  

WTF

Whole new meaning to My Little Pony.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 11:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Totally agree! I thought Rainbow Brite myself.

by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 11:43 AM MST up reply actions  

This is going viral.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 9:22 AM MST up reply actions  

WIN ALL THE TROPHIES!

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by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 9:00 AM MST up reply actions  

they have finishers, that’s the difference and why the stats don’t mean shit. Winnik could get 10 scoring chances and he will score 2x, heatley will bury 6 of them. That’s the difference plus goaltending.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 9:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Thier best three players career Shooting %:

Heatly – 15.2%
Setoguchi – 11.8%
Koivu – 8.7%

Avs:

Hejduk – 14.5%
Stastny – 12.6%
Duchene – 13.6%

I fail to see how their “finishers” are any better than ours (or anyone elses for that matter)

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 9:32 AM MST up reply actions  

And the Jibs Machine gets a take down.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 9:35 AM MST up reply actions  

He’s right, Winnik isn’t a good finisher compared to Heatley. But then again, Clutterbuck isn’t a good finisher compared to Hejduk.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 9:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Clutterbuck isn’t a good finisher compared to Hejduk.

Sorry. A lot to fix there.

by Andy_ on Nov 17, 2011 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

We should put those three on the same line together. They would be unstoppable and that line would score 40.7% of the time.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Heatley- 330 goals, SOS 110. Heatley 2x 50 goal scorer. Maybe that will help you “see”. The career shooting % numbers don’t mean shit b/c those scorers take a lot of shots. What does matter is when it matters they bury them.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah and I bet sean avery has more goals than gabriel landeskog too. God landy, y u no good scorer

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 10:21 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I would assume you got the point, thus the 2x 50 goal scorer comment.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Heatley is also a winger compared to Stastny who is a center. Heatley’s job is to score goals, but he often needs someone to feed him the puck first.. Stastny job is to set up those goals and score as well.

Heatley has 370 assists, just 40 more than he has goal. Stastny has 110 goals and 223 assists (2X as many). It like comparing apples and oranges, not to mention Heatley has play 4 season more.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

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by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Logic and facts clearly have no place in this discussion. You just get out of here with that bizniss.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

Have another donut!

by beersam82 on Nov 17, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Well I’d compare Hejduk (364g) with Heatley (330g) in terms of finishing, and you know, career length.

I’d compare Stastny (110G) With Koivu (97G)

And Duchene and Setoguchi aren’t really comparable because Seto has playe longer, but …Setoguchi .31G/g, Duchene .32G/g

But you know, keep comparing apples and oranges

The career shooting % numbers don’t mean shit b/c those scorers take a lot of shots.

Which is why “Shot quality” is mostly a myth.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 10:47 AM MST up reply actions  

when you pick the players YOU want to compare for your stats that is comparing “apples to oranges”. Why don’t you throw in maybe Cullen vs Winnik or anybody vs Kobasuck.

That said, the Avs problem is their defense/goaltending, they will not win if that does not turn around no matter how many they score.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

you pick the players YOU want to compare for your stats

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that exactly what you did?

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

you are wrong, read form top of thread, I just said better finishers and then Jibbs got big blue out and started cherry picking his stats

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Winnik could get 10 scoring chances and he will score 2x, heatley will bury 6 of them.

That was the first mention of players. You’re wrong.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:05 AM MST up reply actions  

I wasn’t comparing Winnik to Heatley on a career basis as Jibbs was, I was trying to make a point about who can finish a scroing chance. so you are wrong

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

I agreed with you, Winnik is not as good a finisher as Heatley. But your point was that the Wild have finishers and the Avs don’t. I compared guys who would be the Wild’s finishers, and the Avs’ finishers.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

know what the whole thing is, if you get goaltending? so on that you are correct.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

No, YOU'RE WRONG.


lalalalalalalala – Icanthearyouuuuu – lalalalalalalalala

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by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

I was thinking the same! Okay, everybody has water-boarded me into submission! hear the bubbles!

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

And I thought my glasses were thick.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Dany Heatley: 9 seasons; 1.02 pts/game avg
Paul Stastny: 5 seasons; .92 pts/game avg

Yeah, Stastny is a scrum next to Heatley, for sure.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 10:47 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m done with this but the point was GOAL scoring, not assists. I used Heatley to make a point b/c he’s one the best goal scorers in the league in last 10 years (fact).

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:01 AM MST up reply actions  

But setting up guys for goals is just as important as scoring goals when it comes to winning hockey games. Just ask Peter Forsberg (249g, 636a).

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

You’re welcome!

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by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

what are their career shots?

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Hejduk – 2513
Stastny – 873
Duchene – 427

Heatly – 2178
Setoguchi – 755
Koivu – 1115

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Duchene!

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 1:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Tonight will they play less than despicable?

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by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 8:47 AM MST reply actions  

Someone will feed Clutterbuck his stick?

Slightly Tasteful Fudge Underpants

by pra4snow on Nov 17, 2011 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m hoping for a game misconduct. My fantasy team could use the points.

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by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 8:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Wilson go BOOM on clutterbuck….make it happen

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by pra4snow on Nov 17, 2011 8:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Then Clutterbuck will give him a cheap shot and run away…because he’s TOUGH!

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 9:00 AM MST up reply actions  

I cracked up recently at an article on yahoo that talked about Clutterbuck’s 3.8 hits per game, which turns into 38 hits per game while playing at home.

Slightly Tasteful Fudge Underpants

by pra4snow on Nov 17, 2011 9:08 AM MST up reply actions  

And Clutterbuck will get credit for a hit.

My Eno$ itches

by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 10:24 AM MST up reply actions  

You know, about that…

I missed the McLeod/Asham fight, but what I didn’t miss was the way Asham and Engelland and Vitale were sort of slapping us around in the 3rd and the way that we were doing absolutely nothing about it. Didn’t like what I saw there.

by DiD on Nov 17, 2011 4:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I am hating on Asham even since he knocked Jay Beagle out and mocked him for it afterward. Beagle is still out with a concussion, not even practicing with the team or skating very often. Why do borderline NHL players think they have to prove themselves by fighting? Beagle might have lost his spot on the team because of the concussion.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 17, 2011 4:04 PM MST up reply actions  

I understand your point, but Beagle HAD to know what he was getting into with that frackus with Asham. He decided the risk was worth the possible reward and it didn’t go his way.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 4:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Obviously Beagle, who doesn’t fight, shouldn’t have fought Asham, they aren’t in the same category at all. I am just not a fan of fighting in hockey. I wish it was against the rules.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 17, 2011 4:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I am expecting them to play ess than outstanding.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 12:10 PM MST up reply actions  

An Extremely Important Game

Why? Because its a divisional game not against the Oil or fLames. You have to take your style of play to the Mild immediately. Divisional game aside, you need to get back your winning ways—even if it’s only on the road.

Anyone taking bets on if we see the Doctor on that Skog/Radar line tonight?

by quietstorm560 on Nov 17, 2011 8:52 AM MST via iPhone app reply actions  

Duchene gets yanked from lines faster than a fish on a Vs. primetime show,

LOL

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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

Rec’d, for the third time in this thread. You are a joy to have around.

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

yes, I bet it does not happen. Wish it would but Sacco is clueless.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

See this is the type of things that bother me. Despite what issues we may have with Sacco, he is not clueless otherwise he wouldn’t be coaching. Does he have problems that after 2 1/4 season he hasn’t been able to fix/learn from? Sure, but that doesn’t make him clueless. Not to mention again that he sees things we don’t. Maybe he’s playing favorites with certain guys/lines….maybe he isn’t.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

okay, let’s say I agree. We should just keep him, finish last in the NHL and say it’s not his fault. Now that makes sense to me.

He’s the worst coach in the league, hands-down. For one, his players have tuned him out and he can’t get them to play consistent for 60 minutes, ever. That 3rd period against pitt was a fucking joke. I know, it’s the players fault. Why have a coach, please answer. You put Tippett in that spot, no way that happens.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Mainly because the Avs would never have scored 3 goals under Tippett because his system is all counter-punch and denial.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

agreed, but we would win 3-2

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Re-read my comment. Then read yours. If you agree we don’t score three goals under Tippett, then how do we win 3-2?

I honestly don’t see Tippett’s team fairing any better against a team as deep as Pittsburgh.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

We should just keep him, finish last in the NHL

But if we finish last we get another great pick and another young player to build….wait, shit!

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 12:14 PM MST up reply actions  

I appreciate everyone’s sentiment that “the Avs are better than their record,” but considering that their record is all that really matters in the end, it comes across like kool-aid drinking to me. I think the Avs’ play is pretty much perfectly reflected by their record, honestly. Few of their losses have been close or particularly hard-fought, and many of their wins have been close or lucky – at least from my perspective.

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 9:03 AM MST reply actions  

Yeah, I just wish they’d get a few more. I want us to be sitting right around #13-#15 in draft order by the end of the year. Right now, we’re at #7.

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by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 9:07 AM MST up reply actions  

My sad, sad opinion as well. Something fairly significant needs to change for the team to right-size itself.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 9:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Like winning…or not spotting the other team 3-4 goals

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 9:09 AM MST up reply actions  

It’s like you can read my mind.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 9:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Looking on the Sunny Side…

If Sacco will leave Duchene on Stats’ wing, we have resolved the “top scoring line” problem. I’m no expert, but it seems as though, when goals start going up on the board, many other things begin to improve.

I mean, just look at that Pit game, that totally confirms my rosy outlook. We go up by 2 in the first and go on to….

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by pra4snow on Nov 17, 2011 9:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Did anyone notice the comment by the announcer early in the Pitt game. He mentioned something about when he talked Duchene about playing on the wing Duchene said he didn’t really like it because wingers follow the puck in to the zone and he prefered to skate the puck into the zone.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

he prefered to skate the puck two inches into the zone and promptly turn it over with a beautiful but futile spin move.

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 12:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I was torn when Duchene did a spin move right into a joining defender. It was a bad play — bummer. It was a good lesson — yay!

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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 12:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I started tuning out the announcers after they seemed to be Pitt’s announcers. I thought Versus was bad when the Caps play the Pens but they somehow outdid themselves for the Avs game.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 17, 2011 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Its cause we’re from the west. Also, I think everyone who works for any sort of nhl broadcast has a crush on the Pens… Except for maybe Philly and Washington

by LeonardoC6 on Nov 17, 2011 3:57 PM MST up reply actions  

I think they barely knew anything about anyone on the Avs other than Duchene and Varly (only because he was in the east and played against the Pens in the playoffs). At least when the Caps play the Pens, they know more about various players so the broadcast isn’t quite so one-sided.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 17, 2011 4:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Something fairly significant needs to change for the team to right-size itself.

Goaltending.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Something fairly significant needs to change for the team to right-size itself.

Goaltending.

Meh. Don’t agree that’s the key problem despite your fancy numbers.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 9:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Goaltending & Random chance.

(I’m currently going through the NHL.com highlights and counting the scoring chances against and for per team. I’m going to try and build a database of ~82 games, and then compare the Avs scoring chances against to that data base.

So far after 14 games Average Scoring chances against per game is ~10 ±3 and the scoring chance/shot ratio is .33 ±.09. Again small sample size but if the Avs have anywhere near this number in an average game that is average, and not worse than any other team…

Against pittsburgh: 11 – Scoring chances against, on 33 shots (.33 ratio). Almost exactly average.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 9:36 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m not trying to disagree with the numbers. You’ve made it clear more shots are going in our net than one would expect given the surrounding data. I’m just not up to pinning all that on Varly’s shoulders. Team play, specifically defensive play and schemes are playing a big role too in my speculative opinion.

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 9:39 AM MST up reply actions  

. I’m just not up to pinning all that on Varly’s shoulders.

I’m not either, I think Random chance is playing the biggest role over the last 10 games, and I think Varly’s play is second.

I think team play and defensive positioning are a very distant third, as they aren’t much different than an average team.

Now I’m just going about collecting data to prove that hypothesis.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions  

As much as I’m sure that’s what Jibs meant, I love you for making a point of it. Always worth noting.

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

HA HA! SCIENCE!

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 9:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Fair enough, prove or disprove that hypothesis.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 10:05 AM MST up reply actions  

This all just sounds like a ridiculous amount of work…

by LeonardoC6 on Nov 17, 2011 3:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Switch Varly’s play with ‘team play & defensive positioning’ and we’re on the same page.

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 9:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I just don’t think the team defense has really been all that bad (and that’s before I looked at any stats). I just thought the Avs have been horribly unlucky. But then I looked at Varly’s numbers and there’s no way it can be all attributable to team defense.

I also think if Anderson, Budaj, or Elliott were playing the exact same as Varly, a lot less people would think it’s team defense and a lot more would blame the goaltender. Varly’s still on his honeymoon though.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 10:07 AM MST up reply actions  

I framed my opinion as ‘speculative’ earlier b/c the only numbers I’ve really looked at are the ones you’ve presented, so it’s entirely possible I still have Varly in ‘honeymoon’ status. Though I will say, Avs fans have watched a fair number of “finally our solution” goaltenders that got their honeymoon too. Varly’s play, even in the bad games, looks different than Theo’s or Andy’s, etc. etc. I find myself thinking, “so this is what it looks like to lose a bad game with decent goaltending.”

I’m just a fan watching the games and I applaud you for trying to put numbers behind it. The interesting thing, I think, with ‘the numbers’ is how you separate out team/defensive play from Varly’s numbers. Saying ‘the numbers are just too bad" isn’t concrete enough for me.

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 10:21 AM MST up reply actions  

It seems to me that Jibs could do a statistical analysis of Varly with the Caps and Varly with the Avs and come up with the conclusion the team defense is worse in Colorado.

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by 7sky on Nov 17, 2011 5:40 PM MST up reply actions  

I could, but I am not a number crunching machine….a and this is a very ambitious project.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 18, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

regardless of who’s fault, they are 2-7-1 in their last 10, worst in league except for NYI (they have the same # of pts though). That’s not bad luck. They just aren’t that good right now.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

FWIW, Jibs, I’m with you here. Varly has not looked good. He’s lost the swagger (much as I know you are shuddering at that characterization, but it’s true).

by Andy_ on Nov 17, 2011 10:37 AM MST up reply actions  

That said, the defense has lost the swagger, too. For whatever reason, they are not playing nearly as physically in front of the net as they did early on. Combine the two and my evaluation says, “The Avs are fucked unless something changes.”

by Andy_ on Nov 17, 2011 10:39 AM MST up reply actions  

that would be a problem called “Sacco”, or should I say “Sacked-co”

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:42 AM MST up reply actions  

I think Varly has been letting in at least one soft goal per game lately.

But I think the defense is more responsible then he is. Watching that Pitt game a few of those goals were because defenseman were not picking up the backside guy cuting in.

Varly even made one huge save on a guy standing wide open next to the backside post, if the guy had shot it right away instead taking time to settle the puck down it was an easy goal that Varly had no prayer against. situations like that are becoming way to common during the game and that is the defenses fault.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

your numbers don’t mean shit. The type of shots matter a lot and who shoots them. The bottom line is that we don’t have enough talent, esp. on wing and defense. Varly has sucked lately but those goals Pitt got I don’t see many goalies stopping. ROB had a horrible game in particular. Plus, we can’t kill penalites.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions  

I was taken aback as well. Can’t we all just get along?

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by burgundyRainbow on Nov 17, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

sorry, wasn’t meant to offend.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:26 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

The type of shots matter a lot and who shoots them. The bottom line is that we don’t have enough talent, esp. on wing and defense.

Yes, that’s why I’m counting the “types of shots”.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions  

my whole point is the only stat that matters is if you WIN, can a player (Sakic) score when it really counts? Can a goalie make a save when it counts. Those are hard to quantify. The bottom line is the avs are 2-7-1, and the only stat that matters is who won.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, and sometimes you can play well and Lose and sometimes you can play poorly and win. Even the worst teams in the league win ~40% of the time. Even over 10 game spans good teams who are playing well lose games.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Varly has sucked lately but those goals Pitt got I don’t see many goalies stopping.

Really? Cuz I saw two to three goals that were the direct result of poor positioning, save selection, and technique or a combination of the three. I’m willing to even throw out stuff that happens as a direct result of his style/stance because he makes big saves with that same style stance.

 IMO an NHL goalie shouldn’t have as many angle issues as Varly is right now. Those types of errors aren’t prevalent in the NHL and most goalies WILL stop them.

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by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Goaltending & Random chance.

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by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 10:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Can we sign his brother Buena Suerte?

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by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

He has a German cousin as well, Gutes Gluck

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by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

He has a German cousin as well, Gutes Viel Glueck

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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Having umlaut deficiency syndrome.

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by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah, a new owner, gm and coach.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

At least your willing to save Sakic’s job!

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by BrianD on Nov 17, 2011 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

I would make him coach, why not? can’t fire super joe

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:40 AM MST up reply actions  

At this point, I wouldn’t put him in a situation where I might need to fire him.

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 10:41 AM MST up reply actions  

true, he needs to be around for PR

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:43 AM MST up reply actions  

Hard to believe there’s still much Kool-Aide left in Denver with Tim Tebow in town.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 9:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Hasn’t he started winning games as of late?

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 9:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Small sample size.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 9:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Ugly W's...

They’re still not L’s

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by pra4snow on Nov 17, 2011 9:22 AM MST up reply actions  

still my big problem with Tebow….

HE started winning games

since when does somebody complete two passes and is the reason an entire team of players wins a game

by chetmanley on Nov 17, 2011 9:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that he won any games through individual heroics or anything. I had just read that the Broncos had won with him as QB. Admittedly, I pay little attention to the NFL.

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 9:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey, his record is better than the one with the so-called “real” QB behind center. Now this isn’t Tebow being awesome or anything, but until the L’s start piling up (and they may), ride it while it works

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 9:32 AM MST up reply actions  

…but until the L’s start piling up (and they WILLmay), ride it while it works

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by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 9:39 AM MST up reply actions  

Exactly. At this point I’d rather win games we should have lost (broncos) over lose games we should have won (avalanche).

Though I’d also prefer to win games we should win (my beer kickball team)

by LeonardoC6 on Nov 17, 2011 4:08 PM MST up reply actions  

No need to be sorry, I’m just being far to snippy. Not enough coffee yet and I have a very short Tebow temper after spending my college years in Florida having to listen here every day how he was the greatest thing that ever happened to anyone anywhere.

by chetmanley on Nov 17, 2011 9:34 AM MST up reply actions  

He was a damn good college QB

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 9:39 AM MST up reply actions  

True, but he ain’t no NFL QB. Not one with any staying power or franchise-carrying capabilities (which was where he was drafted).

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by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

No, he’s not. Not even close

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

My guess is they draft Denard Robinson to replace Tebow as the future QB. Either him or Taylor Martinez.

This way you can keep going with what is working.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Let’s talk about something less divisive or of common hatred.

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

ZEE VILD R ZEE SUXXORZ

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by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Hensick. 50 points. Book it.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions  

50 points? 50 GOALS!

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions  

MIKAEL GRABNER 70 GOALS BOOK IT DONE

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by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 9:59 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

so....

FUCK the adjectives and the redwings!!!!!!!!!

by chetmanley on Nov 17, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions  

Indeeds.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions  

Ugh. It’s to the point where when you mention you’re a Colorado sports fan, that’s all anyone wants to talk about. I was chillin’ on In Lou We Trust yesterday and the same thing happened.

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by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 9:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Just imagine this going at about ten times the pace and for four solid years. Four years of bleeding senseless inanity from the media. It’s a wonder the guy has his manhood anymore given how fervently it was polished by the 24 hour media.

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, but it was a gentle buffing with whispered soft words of encouragement and no teeth.

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by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Was there cupping of the balls too? You can’t forget the stepchildren.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 12:36 PM MST up reply actions  

They have won, and I do have to give credit to the coaching staff for putting together a game plan that is successful with Tebow playing. The running game has really turned it up and the defense is making tackles.

But beating KC, Miami and Oakland aren’t exactly beating New England, Pittsburgh and Baltimore. That college-style offense is working, but either 1) it will be shut down, or 2) Tebow will be killed by Ray Lewis.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 9:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Crystal Ball says B.

Now, no more football talking.

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by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

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by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 1:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I do too, but only because the goaltending has been atrocious. I’m just supremely confident that Varlamov is better than a.890 goaltender. If he’s not the Avs are in a ton of trouble.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 9:28 AM MST up reply actions  

He’s done nothing but show that he isn’t up to this point in his young career. The sample size is small and comes with a new defense (growing pains and instability), after he was very visibly affected by the Lokimotiv tragedy (instability), and without the benefit of a full time goalie coach (instability). I fully believe he’ll be better when he settles in and when sherman breaks enos down into paying for Jussi Parkkila.

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by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 10:03 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I think his struggles have been mostly random chance over a small sample size, but even accounting for that he’s struggling.

He’s inconsistent…. in other words: He’s a goalie.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

There are 56 other inconsistent goalies in the league with a better GAA than him. And only 10 worse.

The good news is that Anderson and Bernier are among those 10, so it seems whoever the Avs touch or even covet gets their brains random-chanced to oblivion.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 10:13 AM MST up reply actions  

No question he’s struggling. He also shows his raw skill every night, even on his 6 goal outings. I think I’m just enjoying sipping the koolaid on a goalie I was superbly impressed with the first time I saw him (winter classic) and who has made some simply electrifying saves with us already.

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by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 10:15 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

The two guys on the Avs that are the most fun to watch are Might Matt and Varly without question.

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

And Kobasew. How about that wraparound? They need to utilize his skill more often. On a less talented and deep team, he’d be among the league leaders in goals, at least.

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by burgundyRainbow on Nov 17, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m gonna ban you and send you a mug if you ever leave this site.

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by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

And oh what a mug it would be.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 12:14 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

A happy mug.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 12:16 PM MST up reply actions  

as far as I can tell he’s been a bust, I’m not sure how anyone can defend the save %. The total goals, etc. I can excuse but not the save %.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

I realize you seem to think that 10-15 games is more than enough to draw concrete opinions, but I’d say the jury’s still out on being a bust.

For comparison Luongo had an awful first month or two to last season, and was a Vezina finalist

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

true, I should have said “so far”, he may turn it around

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:56 AM MST up reply actions  

The problem is that Giggy has a much better % with the same team

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes I know, which Is why I’ve said about 100x over 2 days he should be starting a lot more.

Here’s the real conundrum for you, if Giguere has a good save %, and Varlamov has bad ones, how can you blame “Team Defense” they are playing behind the same defense.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 10:51 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

How do you define what’s an allowable difference between save %, ceteris paribus?

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Also the problem of small sample size in assuming ceteris paribus.

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Well it’s small sample so I’m not sure what’s allowable. I know that NHL goalies traditionall are in the .900-.915 range. Gigurer and Varly shoul d be around there.

How much of their discrepencies are due to luck and how much are due to playing well? I do not know and wouldn’t know how to measure it.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

And how much is do to other factors like teams playing harder for one teammate versus another? The Broncos are the perfect example of that.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

I think this is pretty much myth. I doubt anyone is playing hard for Any goalie, and completely give up for another.

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

You should see my Monday night league…

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by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

the team d has sucked for both, just Giggy makes more saves

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

If Varlamov had made “more saves”, the Avs would be at least 5-4-1 instead of 2-7-1 in their last 10. Then they’d be finding a way to “win games” no?

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

agreed, see “bust” comment above. I know it’s unpopular to say anything that’s fair but Varly has been horrible the last several games.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

But if the Avs would have been 5-4-1 with better goaltending, how can you say their team defense is bad?

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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Starts with “t” and rhymes with “Grohl”.

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by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

you’re the troll pal, keep kissing ass

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Dude, come on. “trolling” is a way of arguing and you are starting to master it. We all kiss each other’s ass.

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by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

be fair for a minute.

You come to this site as a newby and there’s a click you have to endure. No problem, I understand that, let’s say it’s a hazing. But just piling on one guy just b/c one of the click doesn’t agree with them is a little unfair (to be fair).

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Us not agreeing
Would be fine if what you say’s
Ever logical

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by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions  

They have given up the most goals in the western conference except for columbus and varly has an 890 save %. what part of me saying defense is their problem is not logical?

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:36 AM MST up reply actions  

Giguere’s numbers.

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by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 11:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Are you including goaltending in your definition of “defense”? If so, that’s not what it seems. It seems you are talking two different things: the goalie and the defensemen. Sometimes you say it’s the goalie’s fault. Other times you say it’s the defensemen’s fault. I think some confusion is stemming from there.

As far as picking on you, it’s not some kind of hazing deal. You make claims that seem to go against the facts and figures out there. Countering you with those facts and figures is a natural response.

When you say things like, “Your numbers don’t mean shit” you are inviting a similar tone in return.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:40 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

both varly and the d have struggled.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

It’s the tone. It’s not just you or neophyte hazing. The aggressive, vitriol, petulant tone is not conduscive to kindness.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

We have a click? Was I not made aware of this?

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

don’t worry ;)
You’re in it.

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by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

See, I was going the other way with it (NTTAWTT):

you weren’t made aware cuz you’re not cool enough to belong!

BAM!

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by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey now, I am a “guest writer” or something like that. That has to include some “click privilege.”

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

So does that mean I’m in the "click now’ since I have the power to post tot he front page (I hope Mike didn’t forget to just take the power away).

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

I need to check on that…

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

All of your clicks

are belong to my clique.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Chi you are like the Kenny of the group. 6whores is the Cartman of the group. Everyone else is like Kyle and Stan.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks Butters.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I prefer to think of myself as a white Token

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Hmmmm, so C6 hates me just because?

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Hold on now. When did I say I hated you? Except every morning when we fight before anyone else is up. I hate you then, but it’s temporal. I like you all the other times.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Because Cartman hates Kyle…that’s all

I love our morning arguments, they get me through the day

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah me too: my espresso, my tsn highlights, and my chia arguments.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

OOH!
I often wish I had such a devious mind ;)
Alas, I’m destined to be the nice one :/

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m having a rough week, so I’m embracing my bitchiness right now. Oh, btw, Latis got into the trash and ate a ton of shit that has just messed with her system. I’m taking her to the vet tonight because I think she might have blockage in her intestines. Will my fantastic luck never end?

(I also haven’t told you that work is not covering the cost of her boarding. Hello, $550.)

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Awww

Poor Latis. I hope she’s okay! :(

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh NO!
to all of that!!
I hope she’s OK!
Doggie sick stuff scares the shit out of me.

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Me too. It’d really suck if she has to have surgery a week before I leave for Qatar.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

oh my gosh

that’s sooo close. Poor pupster. Umm, positive thoughts from me.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks. =)

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah,
Sending happy thoughts your way.
Keep us posted.

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Why am I not in one?! Why don’t you guys love me!?

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

ha ha, you are one of the “core members”! but I usually like what you have to say. To me, you say the same shit I do but can get away with it.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I don’t recall giving you a “swearing pass” so watch your tongue.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

that’s exactly the shit I’m talkin about!

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

he’s including you by giving you a little crap.
Don’t read too much into it.

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Who said you could post more than one sentence?

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Who said you could be mean to GL?

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

That means she’s in the click Sandie. Crass replies mean you’re in, dimwit.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Awwwwww……………. <3!! thanks!

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Illegal use of dots. Please refrain from posting until the disciplinary committee has reviewed your indiscretion.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

It's "clique"

this entire thread is invalid.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 12:10 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Who gave you the power to deem threads invalid?

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Omnipotence is a burden I freely bear on behalf of inferior beings such as yourself. Kindly step back into line lest I be obliged to snuff out your pitiful attempts at meaningful existence.

Thank you, please drive through.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Savage?

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

What gave it away?
Thank you, please drive through.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I as wondering when someone was gonna point that out.

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Hopf is the clique bully.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 12:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I guess I should have read a little farther.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

You use a lot of inciting language with your comments. To be fair, you get a lot back; but I don’t think you would if you were more careful in the first place. Onus is on both sides to be grown up about it, but picking multiples fights is hardly a good way to win allies.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 11:35 AM MST up reply actions  

it’s a hockey site, I have to tip toe on every word? when have I ever said anything personal?

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Not gonna tell you to change man, that’s for the mods. Just saying input generates output.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions  

that’s what is funny to me about this site. Yeah, I know, I have a little sarcasm in me, I’ll give you that. But it’s funny how predictable the comments will be and from who if I say anything that the mob doesn’t agree with. That’s fun for me, the whole thing would be no fun if we all agreed. I just think there should be a little more fairness.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

What do you consider has been unfair?

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:43 AM MST up reply actions  

telling me Heatley (top 3-4 goal scorer in the NHL for last decade) can’t finish any better than SOS based on a cherry picked stat. You don’t think I can pick stats to back my points?

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

The problem with that was your evidence was career numbers for players whose careers have very different lengths.

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

That’s not unfair. That’s an opportunity for you to counter. Rather than saying, “YOU PICK YOU’RE OWN PLAYERS!” you could say, “Those numbers don’t show that Stastny is a finisher. Goals scored is more of an indicator for what I’m saying.”

That’s what discourse is all about: points and counterpoints. Devolving into accusations doesn’t help move the conversation forward at all.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions  

"YOU’RE"

oh no Cheryl NOT YOU TOO!!

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

STEVE! Who gave you permission to post?

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

It’s funny because I have to leave right this instant to get back to work so it looks like you’ve banished me :)

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

don’t get any grease on your shirt, those burgers splash a lot. :)

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Steve’s a true MHHer.

He wears neither pants (on general principle) nor a shirt (for the reason you mention).

Thank you for your order. Please drive through.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 12:12 PM MST up reply actions  

face palm.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

But it’s funny how predictable the comments will be and from who if I say anything that the mob doesn’t agree with.

in response to

You use a lot of inciting language with your comments.

and
It’s the tone. It’s not just you or neophyte hazing. The aggressive, vitriol, petulant tone is not conduscive to kindness.

Do you see the disconnect there?

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Honestly, doesn’t matter who says it, if we disagree we say it. It’s not anything personal.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously. Just look at Bob and Dan.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

I’d really prefer not to.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

I avoid all eye contact.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Can we still use Dan?

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Nov 17, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Nope, forbidden

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m not arguing with you because you’re the new guy. I argue with Bib, and c6hors and Cheryl, and Dan, and doctor, and Malachi, and Mike, and everyone else all the damn time.

I’m arguing with you because you’re spouting hockey cliche’s about defensive positioning and “finishing” that simply don’t make any sense. Also you’re tying yourself into logical nightmares

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 12:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, you shoulda seen me n Jibs when I treated Corsi like a zombie-inducing virus.

BTW, did you listen to the podcast? I threw in a “regressing to the mean” just for you!!

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I did not. I’m very bad at downloading and listening to podcasts.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Nov 17, 2011 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s not hard. You click “Download” and when it’s done, you click “Play”.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

can you write that down and repeat it again? I’m also bad at podcasts.

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 4:08 PM MST up reply actions  

be fair for a minute.

You come to this site as a newby and there’s a click you have to endure. No problem, I understand that, let’s say it’s a hazing. But just piling on one guy just b/c one of the click doesn’t agree with them is a little unfair (to be fair).

I’ll be fair: When I first came to this site, I certainly noticed that the people who had been around for a while had a lot of inside jokes and camaraderie that I didn’t share because I hadn’t been around for it. Your clique, right? But not a single one of them gave me any shit for being new because I didn’t start arguments with every single one of them. Maybe if you feel like they are ganging up on you, you should look at the common denominator: You.

by Andy_ on Nov 18, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions  

by watching them, yes, they could have won a few more games as always with great goaltending but the defense breaks down all the time. The shots they allow are too easy.

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh god lol

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 10:16 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m going to head over there now to see this backlash. Oh god, this is going to be good! I need some humor in my life today and I’ve already read the new DGB post!

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions  

When the inevitable backlash comes, I will embrace it…

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Go Avalanche?

Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.

by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 17, 2011 10:16 AM MST reply actions  

Indeed.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

it's bad

here’s how bad it is: I’m considering taping the Avs and watching the Broncos live.

by thedoctor on Nov 17, 2011 10:34 AM MST reply actions  

bwhaha

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions  

It's OK folks.

This new father is obviously sleep deprived and is hallucinating. Appropriate measures have been taken to safeguard his safety and that of his young family.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 12:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Sleep deprived? Good thing we’re playing the Wild tonight. Should clear that right up.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

definitely hallucinating and sleep deprived (Y U NO SLEEP BABY), but the broncos may honestly have a better chance of winning tonight. I would love to see them punch the Jets in the mouth like they did the raiders.

by thedoctor on Nov 17, 2011 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Still tummy troubles? Did you guys try the aijwan?

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

How old is the little one? Is it teething?

by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 1:33 PM MST up reply actions  

we’ve wondered. but we can’t see any buds. she drools an incredible amount and really goes after teethers, but she’s done that for months now. /shrug

by thedoctor on Nov 17, 2011 1:47 PM MST up reply actions  

You might try baby oragel or the teething tablets for a couple of nights and see if it helps. The drool has typically been an indicator for our boys.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 1:52 PM MST up reply actions  

maybe we will, thanks.

by thedoctor on Nov 17, 2011 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I remember my mom saying something like dip your finger in brandy then rub it on there gums. Not sure if that is the right kind of alcohal though.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 2:02 PM MST up reply actions  

rub some whiskey on her gums ;)
Maybe that’s why I don’t have kids.

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:02 PM MST up reply actions  

My parents tell a story about doing that for my older sister until she passed out. They say a teething baby with a hangover is to be avoided at all costs.

My Eno$ itches

by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Laudanum and absinthe would probably work, too.

by DiD on Nov 17, 2011 4:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Uncle Didy's Daycare

Chasing the Dragon

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 5:00 PM MST up reply actions  

nah, colic is over, ended at 10 weeks. she’s 5.5 months now, and just won’t stay asleep. she wakes up maybe…6-10 times a night. we’ve been doing really solid bedtime routines and consistent bedtimes, big feedings before bed…just…who knows. also she’s not into daddy putting her down to sleep, she wants mommy. not that big a deal, totally typical for the age, but makes it harder on my wife.

by thedoctor on Nov 17, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s really the right age for teething. Those first few teeth are horrible too. Takes forever for them to come in. Infant Advil, orajel, teething tablets all might help. Also could be a major milestone coming up. Sometimes if they’re about to crawl, sit alone, walk, eat solids, etc., they don’t sleep well for a few nights. Probably something about neural connections.

Preschooler didn’t sleep through the night until a year, and now the nearly 1 year old is looking about the same. He’s up at least twice a night still. We put him down at 8, he’s up at midnight, sometimes 2, but definitely between 3 and 4. And I’m the one getting up with him ‘cause we’re still nursing. It’ll get better!

by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

for us it’s down at 8, up at 8:30, up at 10, up at 11:30 (usually won’t go to sleep without a feeding here), then waking every 3 hours demanding food til 7am, when she’s ready to face the day, sometimes with some exrta wakeups interspersed.

i hope it gets better. I’m pretty zombified.

by thedoctor on Nov 17, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Aw man! That’s rough. Definitely give the Advil a try. Can’t hurt really.

by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 2:22 PM MST up reply actions  

First kid? Sometimes you just have to let them scream. Eventually they get tired. When they learn that no one is coming, they stop. YMMV. The first couple of nights of it are horrible, but when it’s over, it’s worth it. I think not going in to soothe the little nipper is harder on the parents than the kid.

My Eno$ itches

by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 2:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Uh, yeah, we didn’t do that.

by Mrs @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

I say let the little kid learn about the cold, harsh realities of being alone in this unforgiving shit-hole of a world. He/She needs to know that a comforting shoulder of someone who cares about you is a pipe dream held on to those naive few who haven’t looked the unblinking eyes of death and despair. The sooner they grasp the infallible truth that this universe will continue to roll on crushing the hopes and dreams of anyone who deigns to believe in the intrinsic good of humanity the better. They should enter into their formative years (i.e. pre-K) with the knowledge that there are only happy endings in illicit massage parlors, pots of gold only come filled with urine, corporations have ruined humanity since the pyramids were built and love is only a neurological chemical response to lust pheromones and breeding urges.

That’s what I said, but she made me go rock the kid back to sleep.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 2:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Kid wants the contact and the rocking and will yell to hell to get it. For me it came down to who was going to be running the house. I was bigger with the more developed brain. The power struggle didn’t resume until he was 17, so I feel like I won.

Good luck getting the momma to buy off on that.

My Eno$ itches

by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Yikes!

Breastfeeding or formula? If it’s not teething (and at her age it may well be), if she’s up all the time it may be because she’s legitimately hungry (breastmilk is much more quickly & efficiently metabolized), in which case, yeah, hmmm.

If, however, it’s formula and she’s waking up possibly with discomfort due to the tougher time metabolizing (ie gas pain), the Aijwan is your magic bullet. Trust me.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Avs looking for their FIRST win in the division tonight. And SECOND ROW win in the conference… Yikes

Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results

by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 17, 2011 10:41 AM MST reply actions  

if it wasn’t for bad bounces they could have like 4 wins

by the cool breeze on Nov 17, 2011 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

I kinda feel really dirty but the Wild logo is one of my favorites so far in the pregame pic.

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 11:21 AM MST reply actions  

I love their logo

the fact that it is two different things depending on how you see it, is so creative

by ProfessorOak on Nov 17, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Yea????

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Mr. Kobasew, do you prefer ground beef or chicken on your nachos?

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 12:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Are you sure it is Kobasew and not Gali on nacho duty?

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Leave me to my dreams and keep your nasty realities to yourself.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: The possibility exists that this may not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Nov 17, 2011 2:43 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Hejduk will immediately hand it off to Yip.

Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.

by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

He won’t even raise it. Great call.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Nov 17, 2011 2:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Win one for the Yipper?

My Eno$ itches

by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Mission 16Y(ips)

Mile High Hockey: The Avs are so young, we had to hire Chris Hansen as a site moderator.

by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Yipstory will be made.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 3:23 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Can we please just beat a fucking division rival?

I’m sorry for swearing.

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 11:26 AM MST reply actions  

oh shit his ass gon get bant

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

How bout just win a fucking game

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

you sound like my husband disciplining our son for bad language

/face palm

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by hockeymom on Nov 17, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I mean really—there’s no shielding children from anything anymore. The internet is going to do away with innocence.

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought that was the printing press?

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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 12:16 PM MST up reply actions  

No, the printing press had editors. The internet is pretty much porn and swearing.

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

The Internet.

Twitter is for stalking celebrities, Facebook is for stalking your friends, Myspace is for stalking underage girls, and the rest is porn.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 1:47 PM MST up reply actions  

And god bless all of it.

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 2:09 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d to the highest form of rec

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

So which category does MHH fit in?

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 3:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Weellll, Andidee is now of age, so we ain’t MySpace. I’m guessing porn. Cat porn.

My Eno$ itches

by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

porn

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Goal girls are back! Yeeehaww!

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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 3:51 PM MST up reply actions  

This is how I feel tonight

My first post on the GDT thread two nights ago was something along the lines of “Everyone ready for another loss?” and that’s how I feel again. I just have no confidence in this team right now, no matter who they play, and even now with the fact that they are on the road. Hejduk looked real confident last game, and seemed to play with a different swag that I haven’t seen him play with, and I think part of that is the C. That being said, I’m more confident in Jiggy than Varly right now, and well, that shouldn’t be the case. I’m confident in Duchene and Hejduk and well, that’s it. So to be honest, I’m not confident we will win, not at all, but I hope I am proven wrong.

by ProfessorOak on Nov 17, 2011 11:29 AM MST reply actions  

I’m certainly not confident in a win, but I don’t think they’ll lose either. I’ve no idea what will happen tonight. My only expectations are to be bored, thanks Adjectives.

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Hopefully

we can take advantage of their poor set of defensemen. I am afraid of Heater though.

by ProfessorOak on Nov 17, 2011 11:36 AM MST up reply actions  

Despite being low on the team right now, it will be a cold day in hell or a murder-free day in Detroit before I ever admit the Adjectives may beat the Avs.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

And how

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

HE rec’d everything.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

A fare Shift+Rec

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Jibbled?
Or are you rec’ing the article?

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
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by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m rec’ing this Jibble. I want only POSITIVE things today. GOOO SACCCOOOO!!

Keep shuffling the lines, that will fix it.

by Tony Trujillo on Nov 17, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m rec’ing this Jibble. I want only POSITIVE things today. GOOO SACCCOOOO AND DON’T COME BACK! TAKE SLY WITH YOU!!!

ftfy

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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Losing by two here we come!!!

Keep shuffling the lines, that will fix it.

by Tony Trujillo on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 AM MST reply actions  

Losing by two because we lost the puck with the goalie pulled on a near comeback here we come

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by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 17, 2011 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Random Thought

Does anyone else feel like singing show tunes right now?

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by burgundyRainbow on Nov 17, 2011 11:54 AM MST reply actions  

OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHKlahoma where the wind comes sweeping down the plain!

Lovely ladies smell them through the smoke. Seven days at sea can make you hungry for a poke.

Tommorrow tommorrow, I love you, tomorrow. You’re only a day awaaaaay.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s Mike’s ringtone.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought his ring tone was “It’s good mood food” from Arby’s

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 12:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope. Hate that song and hate that ad campaign. My ringtone for the Mrs. is pretty epic though.

It’s safe to click on that, I swear.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Awwwwwwwwww. How cute.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions  

More songs should feature guys saying “GUITAR!” immediately before an epic guitar solo. I believe world peace would ensue.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions  

I have the “Bow chica wow wow” song from Phineas and Ferb as my ringtone for the Mrs. It used to be ACDC “Hells Bells”

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Nov 17, 2011 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks!
I LOLed

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I do my best! Of course, now I have show tunes running through my head.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 12:35 PM MST up reply actions  

You’re not the only one.

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 12:51 PM MST up reply actions  

DAMNIT!!

FOPPA!!!!!!
R.I.P. Wade, Rusty and Scratch
MHH - Home of the troll-ku

by gl avfan on Nov 17, 2011 1:21 PM MST up reply actions  

It means no worries, for the rest of your days….

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Its our problem free, philosophy!

by LeonardoC6 on Nov 17, 2011 4:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I was Curly McClain in high school, that song was stuck in my head for months

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by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 17, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Somewhere, over the Burgandy Rainbow . . .

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by hockeymom on Nov 17, 2011 12:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m singin’ in the rain, just singin’ in the rain! What a wonderful feelin’, I’m happy again!

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 1:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Let the wet t-shirt contest begin, woohoo!!!!!

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 1:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Or better yet...

Yippity-do-da, yippity-a!. My oh my what a wonderful day! Plenty of hockey comin’ my way, yippitdy-do-da, yippity-a!

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by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Actually, if we win tonight, I will write at least a few of my 10 thoughts in show-tunes spoofs.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

If we win tonight, I’m writing in Yip on the all-star ballot.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Go Yip, Go Avs

"Why is the hockey court so small"...... "yeawha?"

by avsfanatic33 on Nov 17, 2011 12:00 PM MST reply actions  

Yip > Mclement, Porter, McCleod, Kobasew

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 12:10 PM MST up reply actions  

we hope.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Nov 17, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Yip has been out long enough that he’s acrued some imaginary awesomeness.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

His shooting percentage is no longer unsustainable however…

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Yip will turn this team around.

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

This isn't backed up with enough maths

Where M = games missed, A(a) = actual awesomeness, and A(p) = perceived awesomeness

A(p) = A(a) + (i * M), so if Yip has an actual awesomeness of 10.6 Lebdas, his perceived awesomeness is approaching 3.2 imaginary Simon Gagnes.

It's all about the O'

by SteveHouse on Nov 17, 2011 1:28 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

That is logical, but he also has a potential awesomeness of 16.8.

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

But what’s his GSBS rating?

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 1:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ve heard he has a low TOILOI. He should stick to eating nachos.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 1:55 PM MST up reply actions  

The REAL question is, which period should I watch tonight?

Will it be the “we didn’t start on time” Avalanche?
So I should watch the third period?

Or will it be the “We started great, but we just didn’t play the full 60” Avalanche?
So I should enjoy the first period, then leave the TV, assuming two points are well in hand?

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 1:22 PM MST reply actions  

As Mike and I guessed, it will be the 2nd period just to shake things up.

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 4:10 PM MST up reply actions  

So,

I’m pretty decent friends with a bunch of Wild fans. I’ve invited some of them over for the game tonight and may invite a few more. But luckily, I also have a friend who isn’t very big into hockey but likes the Avs when he does watch coming over as well so I’m not going to be the only Avs fan in the group. Add in the real beer (Big Sky Brewing variety pack – I hope they drink lots because it’s going to take me until Christmas break or later to go through a 12-pack) and it should be a good night.

But come on Avs, don’t embarrass me in front of my Wild-loving pals!

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 1:32 PM MST reply actions  

I’ve got bad news for you…

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

or a football conference, i wonder if that is a coincidence?

Also probably why it will take so long to drink a 12 pack.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Football?

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

And be nice to my Big Sky Conference. The Bobcats are the no. 1 ranked NCAA Division II team in the country right now. Montana’s not big enough to have nice things like Division I teams, so we’re thankful for what we have.

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 1:45 PM MST up reply actions  

UNC made the tourney for the first time ever last year, so there’s that.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 2:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m giving it a try because it’s semi local and I like buying local when I can.

And next, I’m going to get New Belgium’s mix pack. I still have no freakin’ idea what I like, so I’m just going to try the ‘not quite cheap but not super expensive either’ beers until I figure it out.

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

And I’m not a big drinker either. I only have one beer maybe a week. It takes a while for me to go through them.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 1:46 PM MST up reply actions  

In that case I would not recommend the 30 packs of Busch Light. Though they usually work better for the college budget.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

New Belgium 1554 Ale. Yum.

Varly!

by niwotsblessing on Nov 17, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

My dad really likes that one. I’m going to have to give it a try.

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I concur, it’s good stuff

by jd21 on Nov 17, 2011 3:14 PM MST up reply actions  

My roommate and I just got New Belgium’s Snow Day for our annual Before Thanksgiving break drunk Call of Duty night, as well as their Frambozen. I highly recommend both

by LeonardoC6 on Nov 17, 2011 4:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Frambozen I was presently surprised by. Worked well with the brown base, didn’t have the syrupy raspberry taste prevalent in to many raspberry wheats. A lot New Belgium’s normal stuff i find pretty meh, but they have some damn good sours (La terrier and La Folie) but those would probably fit in the expensive category.

by chetmanley on Nov 17, 2011 4:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Try a Sunshine Wheat. It’s a pretty standard first entry to the non-swill section of the beer aisle.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Slice of orange is a must with Sunshine.

My Eno$ itches

by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

/facepalm

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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Gotta get some acceptable flavor into it somehow. I’m not much of a fan of wheat beers. Nasty aftertaste.

My Eno$ itches

by Busted Twigg on Nov 17, 2011 3:06 PM MST up reply actions  

for wheat’s I like Haystack from lefthand

by chetmanley on Nov 17, 2011 3:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m a pretty big fan of Blackfoot River Brewing. They’re in Helena but I think they distribute out your way.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 2:15 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ll look for them. Thanks for the recommendation.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 2:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I disagree.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I’d drink Big Sky before most of New Belgium. YMMV and all that.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

In all fairness, it’s been about 6 or 8 years since I had Big Sky. It was not good then.

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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I actually quite enjoy the stuff. I really like scape goat as a pale ale, moose drool is a pretty solid brown (really depends on how malty you like them) and trout slayer just has an awesome name…….

by chetmanley on Nov 17, 2011 2:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Powderhound and scapegoat.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

I’d be lying if I didn’t say I enjoyed many Moose Drools on tap.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I read this and my first thought is that you have a lot of friends. When did I turn into a crotchety loner in my old age, almost always watching games alone? Anyway, I hope for your sake the Avs win! I can’t watch tonight, but not so I watch the Caps play the Jets at the same time. Instead I’m going to watch the Hokies play UNC. If I get lucky maybe I can catch some of the Avs game at halftime. Go Giggy and go Varly holding down the bench and wearing that baseball cap!

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 17, 2011 3:10 PM MST up reply actions  

College life. Being trapped in studio with the same group of people for 3 years either breeds friendship or animosity. So far, I’ve been relatively lucky.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 3:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m trying this new thing tonight where instead of watching the game I go drink heavily at Avery’s tap room. If we win tonight I might have to do this every night we have a game……

by chetmanley on Nov 17, 2011 1:36 PM MST reply actions  

Do they still have any Karma on tap? I’ll gladly sell you all into slavery for that to go on their permanent list.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

If Yip can get back to his form from two years ago, 50 goals is not outside his range, assuming he gets off 150 shots or so.

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 1:38 PM MST reply actions  

I heard 60 is the new 50

by royfan4ever on Nov 17, 2011 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Yip will score 165 goals by the end of the year.

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

and will assist Ryan Stoa on 112 more

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by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 17, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

The power line of Yip – Galiardi – Stoa will light up the entire league, ending with a line total of 368 points on the year in 64 games.

by LeonardoC6 on Nov 17, 2011 4:43 PM MST up reply actions  

You typo’d 1500

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Nov 17, 2011 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

no he had that unsustainable 33% or so shooting average 2 years ago.

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 17, 2011 4:11 PM MST up reply actions  

That was SOOOO sick. Too bad the rest of the game was just plain sick.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 1:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Rec’d, of course.

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Didn’t realize how much he was in “coast” before he saw an opportunity and turned on the burners.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 2:16 PM MST up reply actions  

can the avs get Tomas Fleischmann back right around now? we should have kept him instead of petey just for variety’s sake. We’ve already got plenty of guys susceptible to concussions; few teams can boast players who’ve had pulmonary emboli. That and the 17 points so far would have been helpful…

by hitsomebody on Nov 17, 2011 1:50 PM MST reply actions  

Holy shit…Flash does have 17 points! He’d be leading the Avs in scoring!

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 1:54 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s a big fish in a little pond with Florida. Here he’d be lucky to leave the press box.

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by burgundyRainbow on Nov 17, 2011 1:55 PM MST up reply actions  

I think he could probably score more points from the press box than some of the guys we put on the ice each night.

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Here’s the thing. I’m pretty sure that Flash knew his medical limitations and the adverse effects of those limitations here at altitude and wasn’t going to sign with us regardless.

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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 2:52 PM MST up reply actions  

I think people put way too much stock in the effects of altitude on professional athletes. We’re not talking death valley to K2 here.

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by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 3:21 PM MST up reply actions  

perhaps not, but would you really want to bet your life on it?

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I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s one thing to get tired; it’s another to be predisposed to emboli because of frequent changes in altitude while traveling.

A player for the Steelers once skipped a Denver game completely because of it.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Its true, most conditions are not affected by altitude but for Flash’s its better for his health if he stays away. It makes me mad because We’ve had 2 legitimate Wingers in the last 2 years that could have avoided all this top 6 winger nonsense but Rob Blake and bad luck ended all that.

by LeonardoC6 on Nov 17, 2011 4:46 PM MST up reply actions  

OT, but this is an awesome picture via PD

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by MalachiConstant on Nov 17, 2011 2:28 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I giggled. Twice.

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by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Truly magnificent.

You think Dave even knows who that is?

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by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 2:41 PM MST up reply actions  

this picture is amazing….

by chetmanley on Nov 17, 2011 2:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I almost had to leave Hockey Wilderness for good

As one of their posters wrote some unfathomably horrible things about the best goaltender in hockey history, Patrick Roy. However, as it turns out, that really nice BReynolds fellow has two Patrick Roy jerseys, and the Avs were his favorite team for a while! I knew I liked that guy!

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by burgundyRainbow on Nov 17, 2011 2:34 PM MST reply actions  

So, did the Avs win yet?

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:39 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah, 15-1.

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Who scored for Minny?

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by Mike @ MHH on Nov 17, 2011 2:48 PM MST up reply actions  

That would be about right

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Nov 17, 2011 2:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, it was own-goal.

The 15 goals scored by the Avs were equally spread between all three periods. 5-5-5.

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by Joe Dunman on Nov 17, 2011 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Josh Harding

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Nov 17, 2011 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 3:22 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Are you saying that the Avs and Wild are both teams consisting of teenage girls?

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by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought we’d either be crying into it or biting it. But then, I’m a pervert.

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I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 17, 2011 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

No, but their play does kinda make their fans turn into them on occasion. Besides, the pillow is very versatile. You can beat the pillow, cry into the pillow, hug the pillow and rock back and forth, throw the pillow at the wall, scream into the pillow, rip the pillow to shreds, beat other hockey fans with the pillow when they make fun of your team, and even throw the pillow at the TV when the ref makes a bad call. It’s really quite an amazing object.

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by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 3:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Looks like the pillow lobby got to you.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 3:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Just a curious thought here. If Jiggy and Varly had switched roles/games played, would their numbers/stats be different????

by spokane-avs-fan on Nov 17, 2011 3:22 PM MST reply actions  

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 3:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Awww, not another body swap movie.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 17, 2011 3:28 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Curiosity killed the cat ??? Sorry folks

by spokane-avs-fan on Nov 17, 2011 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

No, it’s a good question. I’m sure they’d be somewhat different since they’re different players with different styles, but how different they’d be, well, we’ll never know. It’s really, really hard to say one way or another – I can’t even really field a guess.

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by andidee15 on Nov 17, 2011 3:35 PM MST up reply actions  

No, the cat’s mind is blown.

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 17, 2011 3:40 PM MST up reply actions  

I was wonderin what was goin on there. I was bored and had a thought. I keep forgetting I dont get paid to think. Ooops

by spokane-avs-fan on Nov 17, 2011 3:45 PM MST up reply actions  

So you work for the government, city, state or federal?

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 4:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Not government. I dont really consider it work tho. Paid to play.

by spokane-avs-fan on Nov 17, 2011 4:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Jiggy is so slow side-to-side, it’s only a matter of time before he gives up 3 wraparounds in a game

by jd21 on Nov 17, 2011 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Imagine what Kobasew does to him in practice then!

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by burgundyRainbow on Nov 17, 2011 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I know! I’m sure sacco has Kobasew tune it down in practice tho….. “save it for the game, superstar”

by jd21 on Nov 17, 2011 3:47 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Do you think that Varly will get mad and threaten to leave to play in Russia when Giggy takes over the #1 goalie job after tonight?

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 4:54 PM MST reply actions  

shit stirred?

check!

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by Hopfenkopf on Nov 17, 2011 5:02 PM MST up reply actions  

How about I slightly change the question

If Avs win tonight and Giggy plays good should he get the start on Sunday assuming Varly starts Friday or is it to early to think about changing goalies?

I believe it was Jibble who was saying our goaltending sucks, if it is not doing well why wait and lose more games before making a change?

by cush52 on Nov 17, 2011 5:12 PM MST up reply actions  

No, he wants to be playing in the NHL, not the KHL. He didn’t threaten the Caps to run out on a contract and go back to the KHL, his contract was up but he was RFA when he talked about leaving, a bit of a difference. I think it’s more likely that Varly might think he should of maybe re-signed with the Caps. According to McPhee Varly was really close to re-signing up until a week before July 1. Or maybe he’ll wish he was traded to another team with a full time goalie coach. But I don’t think the KHL figures into the picture when he’s under contract in the NHL. He really wants to be #1 goalie for Russia at 2014 Olympics and if he runs out on a NHL contract to go to the KHL, he’s banned by IIHF and no Sochi. Of course no Sochi if his play doesn’t improve.

On a positive note, at least he’s been healthy in Co which honestly surprises me.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 17, 2011 5:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Best place to learn is from the bench/nacho line.

by spokane-avs-fan on Nov 17, 2011 4:59 PM MST reply actions  

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