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Special Gameday Thread: Sid the Kid is Back in Black

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That's right.  Sidney Crosby is back.  Love him or hate him, he is the best player in the world and a downright treat to watch.  And hey, at least we don't have to hear Reporter: "Sid, how's the head?"  Crosby: "It's the same as the last time you asked me three minutes ago." anymore.  Now that "Crosby Watch" is over, we can all finally watch Crosby.  And that's certainly something to be thankful for.  

The game tonight WILL be broadcast on Versus.  It was supposed to be the Boston-Montreal penaltyfest, and the hockey world does love their rivalry games.  But they love Sidney more, so VS made the last minute change to the Pens/Isles game.  Because of this love, I figured I wouldn't be the only one watching tonight, hence the reason for this thread.  Just think of it like a playoff game - it's one you watch because you're a fan of the sport, not because you're a fan of one of the teams.  

The game tonight is probably going to be a bloodbath though.  Not only are the Pens getting a talent boost by getting a player that even at half-speed is still All-Star worthy, they're also getting the emotional boost of getting their Captain back.  And it's not like they've been tanking without him - they're barely second in their division.  If they win tonight, they take over the lead in the Eastern Conference.  

The Isles are sitting on the exact opposite end of the spectrum.  They're dead last in the East and chilling out at #29th overall (and you remember how that goes).  They have 2 goalies on IR, and the only healthy one is DiPietro, so who knows how long that will last.  They've managed to drop 11 of their last 13 if I'm remembering correctly, so things aren't going so hot for them right now.  If they manage to make this a real game, I'll be very surprised.  

So, good luck Isles (you're going to need it), and welcome back, Sid!  

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If I root for the Penguins this might make me sad. Last time the Avs were such a dominating favorite, well, we had 19 still leading the way. Rooting for the Islanders might be more like a normal game. But I hate the Islanders.

by avalanchejef on Nov 21, 2011 1:16 PM MST reply actions  

Sidney Crosby is not all that great. He’s just really lucky.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 21, 2011 1:45 PM MST reply actions  

Do you have statistical proof that he is lucky?

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Nov 21, 2011 2:01 PM MST up reply actions  

No, so far it’s just been small sample size. I think as the season goes on though we’ll have more definitive proof of his luck.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Nov 21, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

So then it will be statistically significant luck.

by Uncle Richie on Nov 21, 2011 5:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Not like I’m going to watch that Patriots/Chiefs game.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 21, 2011 2:05 PM MST reply actions  

Penguins/Islanders Suck!

I’m going for NY just because they don’t have Crosby. It still pains me though.

Colorado College Hockey, Colorado Avalanche, Colorado Rockies fan to the death.
"We should be dreaming. We grew up as kids having dreams, but now we're too sophisticated as adults, as a nation. We stopped dreaming. We should always have dreams." -Herb Brooks

by Lost Winter on Nov 21, 2011 2:23 PM MST reply actions  

does anyone know what Bob McKenzie did to piss off Burke and Wilson. They blocked him on twitter. Second thought dont really care. Both are douches anyways

by avalanchejef on Nov 21, 2011 3:16 PM MST reply actions  

Never mind, he was quoting someone else. They are still douches

by avalanchejef on Nov 21, 2011 3:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Suckalanche. An Avalanche of suck.

Heart of Cygnus: Shameless self promotion in video form.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 21, 2011 3:17 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

It all starts when too much suck builds up at the top of a hockey orginization and the fans start yelling and stomping their feet.

Heart of Cygnus: Shameless self promotion in video form.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 21, 2011 3:24 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Or does it?

Heart of Cygnus: Shameless self promotion in video form.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 21, 2011 3:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

wow Semin is a healthy scratch tonight

by avalanchejef on Nov 21, 2011 3:36 PM MST reply actions  

I think he could be possibly be available for trades now when I previously had thought it wouldn’t ever happen. Boudreau is pissed at Semin for taking penalties in 7 games straight. I thought the penalties he got in the past 2 games where reputation only trumped up calls, so it seems odd to punish him now. Boudreau even acknowledged that the last two penalties called on him were bad reputation only calls. Then he said Semin was working hard. So I don’t really know why he scratched him now. I think he is trying to show something to the room and Ovi that everything has to follow the rules. Knuble seemed pleased that Semin was sat and thinks he’ll come back playing harder. Boudreau wouldn’t admit how long he plans to sit Semin. Ovi said he was very surprised. I don’t think Ovi or Semin are happy campers right now. Ovie probably deserves a benching himself because he is playing poorly, worse than Semin in my opinion.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 21, 2011 10:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t think Ovi or Semin are happy campers right now. Ovie probably deserves a benching himself because he is playing poorly, worse than Semin in my opinion.

What do you think of Ovechkin as captain? Wouldn’t Laich or one of the other guys have been a better choice?

by DiD on Nov 21, 2011 10:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Knuble is an A and probably does a lot of captain’s duties, he is well respected. But I don’t think you can take the C away from Ovechkin and to a certain extent I don’t think it even matters. Laich and Knuble and other players will still lead regardless of what their title is. Ever since Ovi was made captain, they talked about Ovi being the on ice leader and then the other guys like Knuble were more vocal leaders in the locker room. They seemed fine with that situation. I don’t think anything has changed. I’ve heard rumors that Laich isn’t that well respected in the locker room because he yelled at people all the time for stuff and he was always being annoying with the crap he said to the press. But then he re-signed last summer so I don’t know how true those rumors were.

George McPhee actually met with all the young guns this summer to talk about becoming better leaders. Ovi was in town in July and they met with him then about becoming a better captain. McPhee flew up to Calgary to see Mike Green and Backstrom (he was there for Green’s charity tournament). Don’t know when or if he talked to Semin.

I think Ovi is in some weird kind of funk that seemed to start with Vancouver Olympic failures. Not really sure when he’s going to snap out of it, he seems unmotivated to work as hard as required to learn some new moves offensively and on defense. I know last season he had some injuries but he just wasn’t the Ovi we knew anymore. He seems to pretty much be the same player this season as he was last season. I am not sure he’ll become dominant again.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 21, 2011 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t know how I missed talking about Backstrom, he is the other A. He is very well respected in the room. Everyone always thinks Laich should be the C but no one voted for him, Ovi was unanimous vote. I am trying to think if I’ve ever even seen Laich get an A, maybe one game once but that’s it. Last season, I think Backstrom and Chimera were the road A’s and Knuble and Poti where the home A’s but Poti was always broken, so Backstrom usually had the home A instead of him. Last season when guys were injured, they’d give an A to Arnott, Hannan, Green even but never Laich. He is a hard worker and probably an ok leader but for some reason I don’t think he is quite as well respected as the other guys.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 21, 2011 10:31 PM MST up reply actions  

So this team unanimously voted for Ovechkin as their captain? Maybe that says more about them than about Laich. I mean, I think the whole captain thing is overrated, but, at a minimum, you probably don’t call your coach names when you’re not put on the ice when you want to be, and you sure don’t float around like a lazy bastard like he did against the Leafs. His performance that night was embarrassing.

Joe Sakic had the reputation for not saying a whole lot in the room, but you never questioned his effort on the ice.

For a couple of guys who wore the A sometimes, they sure didn’t make much of an effort to keep Arnott or Hannan around. Guess the Caps have got the leadership thing all figured out.

by DiD on Nov 21, 2011 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Think about when Ovie was made the captain: after Chris Clark was traded in 2009-10 season. The last season where he scored 50 goals. The last season where he looked like himself, electric and putting in all his effort. Why is that so unreasonable for him to be unanimously selected during that season, considering his run of previous seasons? I just told you above that Ovi the past two seasons is a different Ovi. I don’t think you can blame his teammates for not predicting what Ovi has become. How is the world were they supposed to know? I think it’s unfair for you to judge them for it when Ovi was selected when he was still Ovi, not shell of Ovi that shows up most nights now.

I personally don’t think Ovie was calling Boudreau names. I think he was swearing because he was pissed off but he wasn’t calling Boudreau a fat fuck. I watched that video and never got that out of what you could see him saying, clearly it was fuck but I don’t know what else.

Arnott was broke down, he was no good. He was traded to the Caps and promptly had to have a knee surgery and missed a fair amount of time. His mind was willing but his body wasn’t. Hannan was alright but they wanted another D that was better offensively and better with the puck. Instead they signed Hamrlik who is slow as molasses but he is better offensively. Very rough adjustment for him so far. Caps fans occasionally still wish for Hannan.

Knuble is a huge leader in the locker room. They re-signed him and kept him around for another year. The guy is 39 though so I am not sure how much longer he can play.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 21, 2011 11:26 PM MST up reply actions  

As far as keeping around other leaders: Backstrom is in the second year of a ten year contract. Chimera signed a 2 year extension at the beginning of this season. Those guys are big leaders and their bodies aren’t broke down and they don’t skate slow as mud. I don’t think it’s smart to lock up an over the hill guy long term. Poti was another leader until his groin broke permanently and he was re-signed for a few years at the beginning of last season (right before the groin broke). Now he lives on LTIR. I think McPhee was trying to bring in good character guys and I think he did with Brouwer, Ward, Hamrlik, Vokoun.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 21, 2011 11:32 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s a whole lot of words (which I appreciate) but nothing to explain his performance in Toronto.

If I was a Caps fan I’d love the guy, too, but I wouldn’t want him as my captain. The selfish bullshit with the stick on fire and the various cheapshots that he’s never around to answer for, and his obvious lack of commitment to offseason training would do it for me. Surprised that the players voted him in that role; I wonder if they’re happy about it now.

by DiD on Nov 22, 2011 12:55 AM MST up reply actions  

I wasn’t aware the subject was explain Ovi’s performance now, I thought the topic was leadership on the Caps. I don’t know how to explain what Ovi is now. He baffles most Caps fans.

Ovi’s usually just a big kid having fun, hence stuff like the stick on fire. I don’t see that as him being selfish but him just having a good time. Cheapshots he doesn’t answer? He’s been suspended. You want him to start fighting everyone? What’s the point of that? I’m sure you’ll disagree with me, but I don’t think Ovi intended to injure those guys like Campbell. He was just a bit reckless and had to learn how to tone down the hitting. He learned and he hasn’t done anything since the Campbell suspension or injured anyone.

He used to work really hard in the off season, not as much now, but he was better then past summer than the previous one. I really don’t get why you are holding what Ovi is now against the players who voted for him back in 2009-10. He was different then. It’s not like they are going to take the C away from him, that is kinda pointless. The other guys just step up as leaders.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 22, 2011 8:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Fleisch, Snatch, Mueller...

The Avs have a history of trading for reclamation projects. I can see this happening.

Thought food: if Joe Sacco is fired, Sylvain Lefebvre will be the Avs' new head coach. Think about it.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 22, 2011 5:01 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm glad the Isles are in the east

because the thought of Yakupov and Tavares on the same line sorta scares me.

by ProfessorOak on Nov 21, 2011 3:54 PM MST reply actions  

Ovechkin LW, Yakupov RW, Backstrom C. Avs must win.

...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!

by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 5:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Sweet, I'm totally planning to watch this one toni--
The game tonight WILL be broadcast on Versus.

Curses!!!

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Nov 21, 2011 4:25 PM MST reply actions  

I don’t really care too much. Call me a hater, but Sid the Squid just irks me. I want to watch him but I know this will be the “just breathe on Crosby and you’ll have a 10 minute game misconduct” game

by quietstorm560 on Nov 21, 2011 4:43 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions  

If anyone wants it:

Stream.

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 5:04 PM MST reply actions  

Good post, Andi. Sid’s one helluva hockey player, and I like watching him, too. I wanna see some great hockey, something we get little of from the…what was it, Pinchy?….Suckalanche

...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!

by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 5:07 PM MST reply actions  

I'm not a puck bunny, but I do have my moments.

I’m silently “sqeeeing” right now.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 5:11 PM MST reply actions  

Puck is down, and Versus has already reported a false goal for the Pens.

Little punch happy, eh, Versus?

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 5:12 PM MST reply actions  

rain storm just cut feed and when it comes back on Sid got a goal!

by avalanchejef on Nov 21, 2011 5:19 PM MST reply actions  

Crosby just scored.

Breakaway. Made two defensemen just look stupid. Yep. The Kid is back. :)

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 5:19 PM MST reply actions  

Pretty :) More please! We don’t play them til March.

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 5:21 PM MST up reply actions  

wow what a lucky goal

by Skijumper on Nov 21, 2011 5:20 PM MST reply actions  

Statistically lucky—concussion luck

by Uncle Richie on Nov 21, 2011 5:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Think Mueller can tap into some of that concussion luck when he comes back?

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 5:21 PM MST up reply actions  

We can only hope and keep our fingers crossed

by Uncle Richie on Nov 21, 2011 5:22 PM MST up reply actions  

I have this theory that his jersey number is one too high to tap into that concussion luck

Go Avaranche!

by Sean Harsha on Nov 21, 2011 5:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, there goes Dutchy’s chance of being NHL Networks #1 goal twice in a row.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 5:24 PM MST reply actions  

Sid's 'stash still sucks.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 5:25 PM MST reply actions  

That thing’ll never get him a Dos Equis.

...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!

by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 5:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Gotta admit -

I’m kinda hoping for a hatty from Sid. I mean, we wouldn’t want Pittsburgh to feel like they’re getting the offensive dynamo Yip for nothing.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 5:35 PM MST reply actions  

Versus feed impersonation -

“Goal by…. someone. ASSIST BY CROSBY OH MY GOD CROSBY!!!!”

Now Crosby just needs to beat someone up.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 5:39 PM MST reply actions  

Was that SNL or a real commercial. top off??

...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!

by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 5:54 PM MST reply actions  

Malkin!!

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:08 PM MST reply actions  

Crosby, Malkin, Neal and Letang on the PP may put up some points.

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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 21, 2011 6:08 PM MST reply actions  

That wins the “understatement of the night” award.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Now the real question becomes:

Can the Pens score a goal that Sidney ISN’T a part of?

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:10 PM MST reply actions  

Nice timing.

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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 21, 2011 6:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, that answers that.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:12 PM MST up reply actions  

That poor goalie. First game in the NHL and he’s probably going to let in 6+ goals.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:13 PM MST reply actions  

Where’s nabby, depietro and montoya? Oh, I guess they’ve got delicate psyches, so might as
throw the virgin goalie into the volcano.

...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!

by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 6:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Nabby and Montoya are on IR. DiPietro was TERRIBLE against Boston, like Elliott as an Avs bad.

This kid… Nilsson…. is actually doing really good all things considered.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m not the coach, but that’s idiotic…you got a guy signed til the NHL ends and you start your rookie 4th stringer? I know he didn’t have a good game before but A. you’re not going anywhere, and B. Would it hurt to give your franchise goalie an important game like this?

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Nov 21, 2011 6:26 PM MST up reply actions  

When Healthy

The Pens may be one of the few teams in the league that have almost as much talent as the Avs.

The Colorado Avalanche: 2012 Cup Champions Until They Ain't!

by burgundyRainbow on Nov 21, 2011 6:18 PM MST reply actions  

But not quite. I mean, we all know that Crosby, Malkin, and Staal don’t have ANYTHING on Duchene, Stastny, and O’Reilly.

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Very true. But I could see one or two of those guys cracking into our top 10 forwards.

The Colorado Avalanche: 2012 Cup Champions Until They Ain't!

by burgundyRainbow on Nov 21, 2011 6:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Yah, but they’re not going to crack our pp.

...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!

by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 6:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Or PK.

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Probably, they’d be on nachos duty.

...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!

by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 6:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I heard this quote, and it’s funny but so damn true:

He’s trolling the NHL hard today. 26 points away from NHL lead.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Nov 21, 2011 6:25 PM MST reply actions  

So, let’s see… if we figure that the NHL lead goes up by 1 every game and Sidney gets 3 points a game, that means what, 13 games until Sid is on top? Pfft, he’ll be there before the end of 2011!

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:31 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s 3 even strengths points behind Stats.

by DiD on Nov 21, 2011 7:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Pfft. Slacker.

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Good thing Gillies isn’t on the Islanders anymore. This could get ugly.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 21, 2011 6:31 PM MST reply actions  

…. and it’s all Penguins and Crosby.

Don’t lie, VS. We all know what you really mean.

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:33 PM MST reply actions  

Crosby’s not flashy like Duchene, but unlike Dutchy, he CAN do it all by himself. But can you imagine Dutchy and Crosby on the same line?

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:36 PM MST reply actions  

I’m sure they will get some Olympic time together.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 21, 2011 6:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh god, that’s right! Canada will have Crosby, Duchene, and Stamkos. Russia will have Malkin and Ovechkin. The US will have Kessel, Kessler, Stastny and Parise.

Well, the US like being underdogs anyway.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Dallas actually traded Neal and Niskanen for Goligoski?

...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!

by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 6:41 PM MST reply actions  

Meanwhile, we get a 2nd-rounder for Liles.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 21, 2011 6:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, because was a second rate shitty defenseman when he was an Av that was BARELY worth a 2nd. But as soon as he crossed into Canada, he became an incredible Power Play quarterback and one of the best players in the league. Duh!

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:45 PM MST up reply actions  

How many Stanley Cups does Liles have?

Thought food: if Joe Sacco is fired, Sylvain Lefebvre will be the Avs' new head coach. Think about it.

The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.

"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 21, 2011 6:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I always liked Liles. I still say he’s worth more than a 2nd rounder…but oh well.

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Jones. When.

by BraxtanFILM on Nov 21, 2011 6:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Take what the market gives you.

Thought food: if Joe Sacco is fired, Sylvain Lefebvre will be the Avs' new head coach. Think about it.

The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.

"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.

The Number Zero, for everything but mathematics. Blood and Thunder Record: 8-10-1 (Total Record: 9-14-1)

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 21, 2011 6:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree. We basically traded him and a first for Varly, although I still think we should have gotten at least another 2nd or a 3rd in addition to BOS 2nd rounder.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:48 PM MST up reply actions  

The year the Pens won the Cup, Gogo suited up for two playoff games. He won it by default.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Nov 21, 2011 7:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Doesn't matter.

Being on a SC-winning team instantly makes you worth more. And the Pens play in a larger market with way more visibility.

Thought food: if Joe Sacco is fired, Sylvain Lefebvre will be the Avs' new head coach. Think about it.

The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.

"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.

The Number Zero, for everything but mathematics. Blood and Thunder Record: 8-10-1 (Total Record: 9-14-1)

by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 22, 2011 4:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Come on Staalsy – get me a goal! And Kennedy – I want that assist!

/fantasy team angst

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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.

by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:46 PM MST reply actions  

Staal is becoming a star player. He’d be our fourth liner, but still….

...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!

by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 6:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Wrong account, Burgundy.

Staal would be at least a 2nd line center, if not a 1st, on every other team in the NHL. He’s amazing. I wonder if he’s ever going to want to get out of Pittsburgh so he can have that chance.

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 6:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Yip for Staal.

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by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 6:56 PM MST up reply actions  

YES PLEASE!!!!

If we can’t have Crosby, I’d take any of the Staals. Even Marc, the concussed one.

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Come on Sid!

One more for the Hatty!

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:05 PM MST reply actions  

‘This 3rd line for Pittsburgh…not fair.’

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by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 7:06 PM MST reply actions  

No kidding. People are saying the Caps might win it all, but if the Pens stay healthy, I’d put my money on them.

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Always a good playoff series, but I think Boston will have a say in there somewhere.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 21, 2011 7:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Speaking of Boston, damn that Seguin is good. A lot faster than I thought…

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by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 7:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice hit.

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:10 PM MST reply actions  

Crosby’s Peter Forsberg with more pure finishing ability than Forsberg had.

Honestly, I can’t argue that.

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:15 PM MST reply actions  

I didn’t like it when I heard it, mostly because I think Forsberg was stronger on the puck and any time you compare a player to Forsberg you are playing with fire.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 21, 2011 7:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Foppa may have been a bit tougher on the puck, but tonight, Crosby’s not doing too shabby either. And yeah, comparing anyone to Forsberg, especially around here, is a very, very quick way to piss us off.

Still. If they want to compare the best player in the world right now to Forsberg, I think he’s one that I may tolerate.

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Hold on. The Pens have another player coming back from injury tonight and they’re JUST NOW getting around to mentioning it? Really?

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:24 PM MST reply actions  

The Z. Michalek fan club is pissed.

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by Dixomatic on Nov 21, 2011 7:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Did that look a little like Patrick Roy right there?

Seriously, what is with the Ex-Avs comparisons tonight?

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:26 PM MST reply actions  

Pierre’s thinking greatness, ergo ex-Avs. Pride or tears? He did throw a Matty, in there, somewhere…

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by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 7:31 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s true. I just wish the Avs could get back to where WE are being honestly and accurately compared to Ex-Avs. That would make me happy.

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Crosby’s so calm with the puck.

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:35 PM MST reply actions  

Yep. Sid's back.

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:38 PM MST reply actions  

Well after a performance like that, we may have to reconsider our Yip and a 3rd for Crosby proposal. Yip and a 2nd maybe?

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by patrit19 on Nov 21, 2011 7:46 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I think it might even warrant a real player.

Yip and Hunwick for Crosby.

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanx for the Sidney day thread, andi. GDT….it’s less stressful to not be emotionally involved in either team, just watch one great team whip the lousy one. Damn, I really want Jordan Staal, now. You got me going. And Bylsma, too. Did you see him get on his bench after the 4-0 goal, to keep playing? It’s not a big deal, but he sure seems to push the buttons, right.

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by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 7:57 PM MST reply actions  

You’re welcome. And I agree – I’d love Staal or Bylsma too. I drafted my favorites for my fantasy team, and Jordan Staal was one of the top ones. Love him.

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

I MISS FLEISCHMANN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

{starts bawling}

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 7:59 PM MST reply actions  

Flash is one good hockey player. Damn it, we never seem to get those types on the…wait a sec….

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by 7sky on Nov 21, 2011 8:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, as soon as we get Duchene wings, they break. It makes me sad :’(

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by andidee15 on Nov 21, 2011 8:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I find it so curious how fond of Flash Avs fans are. Caps fans got really tired of his floating ways. He’s worse than Semin at Semin’s worst. Flash actually got healthy scratched in the playoffs and everyone was happy about it. Maybe part of the reason for the different viewpoints on him was the failed Flash at 2C experiment. Caps fans just wanted a decent 2C, instead they got Flash. He is a nice, funny guy though that was well liked for his personality. He came back last season to watch a playoff game against the Rangers at Verizon and sat in the crowd and got a big ovation from the fans when he was shown on the jumbotron.

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 21, 2011 10:08 PM MST up reply actions  

It's confirmation bias

There were several games where people in these parts would post around the beginning of the third, “So what’s Flash been up to tonight? I don’t think I’ve seen him.” My all time favorite was “Is Flash playing tonight? Can anybody prove it???”

Flash went on to score 2 goals in the 3rd period and the OT winner that game. That or a 3rd period hat trick. Memory is fuzzy.

While he was here we knew well and good that he had a propensity to float. Looking back, we remember his point-per-game pace and that electrifying hat trick. And how hard he was working at the ends of games, at altitude, despite being about to be diagnosed with pulmonary emboli… no matter how many shifts he took off early. But mostly we remember hsi instant chemistry with Duchene. Same reason Mueller is held in such high regard. He’s the Mythical Duchene Wing.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Nov 21, 2011 11:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I try to be a little more generous because I know Flash was viewed as superfluous for the Caps because they had plenty of other skill guys that weren’t Floaty McFloater, but the Avs are in a little different situation. He is a skilled guy who can score but then he has his defensive lapses and his lack of effort shifts that drive you insane. Plus Boudreau loved him because he coached him in Hershey and won a Calder Cup with him, so Flash could do no wrong. It was a shock to see him scratched in the playoffs (you know he had to be really bad for that to happen). It was just best to remove the temptation from Boudreau and trade Flash somewhere else where he hadn’t worn out his welcome. Caps fans are happy to see him play well in Florida, I think it’s better for his health to be there. Meanwhile, Avs are still looking for complementary Duchene players…

by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 21, 2011 11:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree.

I’m not generally fond of Avs players that choose to go elsewhere, but I can’t hate Flash. I hope he stays healthy for a long time.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 22, 2011 5:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Same. Whether it’s the case or not, I choose to think that the only reason he left was his health. The altitude and the long trips weren’t good for his lungs, so he went somewhere at sea-level and had at least some shorter trips. Could it have been about money? Maybe. But again, I’d like to think the primary reason Flash left us was health.

I still miss him though. {sniffles}

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by andidee15 on Nov 22, 2011 7:38 AM MST up reply actions  

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