Stars at Avalanche Recap, Avs lose 3-1
by Brett Shumway on Nov 28, 2011 10:41 PM MST
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PrintThe game officially got started about 3 minutes in when Barch delivered a viscous hit on Stefan Elliot against the boards. Cody McCleod immediately jumped in to defend his young rookie teammate, earning the instigator penalty for a total of 17 penalty minutes, but this was a good response by McCleod. The hit wasn't awful, but it was a borderline head shot and McLeod was right to defend his teammate. In the fight, Barch came out swinging for the fences, but missed. Cody Mac got the best of it from there and claimed victory.
On the ensuing Dallas powerplay, Galiardi sprung Winnink into the offensive zone shorthanded and Winnik drew a slash from Souray on his way to a good scoring chance against Andrew Raycroft. We've been seeing this play from Winnik often on the penalty kill and I like it. Sometimes he goes in with a little too much zest and runs the goalie, but I'll take that as opposed to an apathetic submissive PK any day. Winnik drew another penalty as he charged into the offensive zone about half way through the period, but the Avs could not convert. Jamie Benn flashed some serious speed on the Dallas PK and beat two Avalanche defenders to the puck to come in alone on Valramov, but #1 made a huge save to keep it 0-0. Unfortunately that score didn't last much longer as the Stars executed a nice 2-on-2 and and made Wilson and Elliot pay. Nystrom scores his 8th of the year off a rebound, 1-0 Dallas.
The Avalanche came out with purpose in the 2nd period and earned an early powerplay, but never got anything going and even killed their own powerplay as they took a penalty in the offensive zone to end the man advantage and send Dallas on their 3rd powerplay of the game. Dallas decided to slow things down and take away the Avs' speed, but the Avs eventually found their legs again about 12 minutes in as O'Reilly nearly beat Raycroft, but the former stoner Avs netminder threw out the left pad to deny the bid. The home team kept up the pressure in the final minutes of the period, but Raycroft was unbeatable and received ample support from his teammates. Second period ends still 1-0, with the Avalanche out-shooting the Stars 27-20.
Could Colorado carve out another 3rd period comeback? Sadly, no. Michael Ryder scored after O'Brien for some reason left his post and decided to try to stick handle into the offensive zone. The puck gets turned over, Ryder flies off on a breakaway, and the Avs go down by 2. Minutes later, Kevin Porter jumped on a juicy rebound in front of Raycroft and threw it into the top of the net, but it was too little, too late. The Avs pulled Varlamov in the last minute, and Ryder out hustled the Avs to the puck to deposit his second goal of the night, this one into the empty net.
The Avalanche need some goals from their forwards. Please. Pretty please. SCORE. SOME. GOALS.
- Semyon Varlamov
- Daniel Winnik
- Kevin Porter
- Duchene - Stastny - Hejduk
- Landeskog - O'Reilly - Winnik
- Porter - McClement - Kobasew
- McLeod - Galiardi - Jones
- Wilson - Elliot
- Hejda - O'Byrne
- Quincey - O'Brien
- Varlamov
Healthy Scratches: Lindstrom
Injured: Eric Johnson (groin), Peter Mueller (brain)
- Raycroft was superb in this game. 34 saves. He was the difference - well, Raycroft and the Avs inept offense.
- Lots of physical play in this game by the Avs, in particular: Wilson and Galiardi (even Duchene had a couple nice take downs).
- Great hustle, hard work, and jump from Daniel Winnik in this game. Red Bull gives you wings. Cocaine gives you rainbow colored rocket thrusters. Daniel Winnik gives you ludicrous speed.
Avs host the Devils Wednesday night at 7:30pm Mountain. Fun Fact: Milan Hejduk is the only Avalanche player still with Colorado from the 2001 finals. The Devils still employ Martin Brodeur, Petr Sykora, and Patrik Elias from their finals roster.
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toe-may-toe, tow-ma-tow
Wait, no, nothing like that…..
fixed.
The blogist formerly known as Paul's Coffey
by Brett Shumway on Nov 28, 2011 11:00 PM MST up reply actions
Sooooo excited
to see Larsson in person Wednesday.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+
by A.J. Haefele on Nov 28, 2011 11:03 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Looking forward to seeing a win on wednesday, since they alternate lately. Has Sacco lost the room? I think he’s lost Stastny and possibly Duchene.
Spoon!!!!!!!!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 28, 2011 11:23 PM MST reply actions
And shit, what is up with Jones? 4th line? after being on the 3rd for last couple of games? It just doesn’t make any sense…ok, punish your top players if they’re not preforming but at some point you have to put them back out there. Winnik and O’Rielly were the top two forwards with ice time, and no matter how much you might like radar, he’s no #1 center. Put Stastny or Duchene out there and ride out their streak, it will end. And winnik? he’s a great 3rd line forward, possibly one of the best in the league but why the fuck is he leading the team in time on ice? Your most talented forwards should be the guys out there the most. not Daniel fucking winnik and O’Rielly? Factor is a fantastic 3rd line center, an ok 2nd line C and a pretty crappy first. Sacco just doesn’t forgive anymore. How many forwards are ‘thriving’ under Sacco? O’Rielly and Winnik and….Hedjuk and Landeskog? Maybe Kobesuck? 4 of 12? I’d gamble on a new voice reaching some of those other guys too.
Spoon!!!!!!!!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 28, 2011 11:40 PM MST up reply actions
Hejduk is slumping too and Landeskog’s S% is just atrocious.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Dont know the stats but Hejduk is playing his worse hockey of his career, IMO. Only Winnik and Radar are the only two thriving under Sacco.
by avalanchejef on Nov 29, 2011 1:44 AM MST up reply actions
I agree with this. Seems like Duke loses the puck all the time. Especially on the power play.
by spokane-avs-fan on Nov 29, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
So you’re saying that the only players thriving under Sacco are ones that have more work ethic than talent?
Duchene and Stastny aren’t thriving…is Hejduk this year? No… Jones? Nope.
Top 6 is being killed right now, and I have no answer as to why…
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Are you suggesting that someone on this team is thriving?
Pass me some of what you are having.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Nov 29, 2011 8:45 AM MST up reply actions
Jones was doing well then he was bumped down to a 3rd and 4th line because we needed to put Dutch, SoS and Hejduk together. Since then he has gotten little ice time and no linemates except for a game here and there.
I think the first line needs to be Jones, Duchene and Hejduk. have the Winnik, O’Reily and Landy be the 2nd line and put SoS on a 3rd line with Gali and Porter since that is about how well he has played.
I agree with you totally but I would say Jones may be better with stas b/c he needs pw type shooters, that’s why he was effective last year with stas and why stewie was too. Duchene could play with ROR and Landy. I actually think that may work better, having duke, jones and stas as 1st line and duchene, ror, and landy as 2nd. Winnik can’t score, I have no idea why sacco plays him there. At least play jones there and put winnik on 4th.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
Are you looking at even strength TOI for the minutes comparison between lines, because I saw a ton of Winnik last night, but mostly on the PK. He’s out there for at least half of every penalty kill.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Winnik’s averaging 15:21 ES TOI; good for 7th overall and 1st among forwards. His total TOI/G is 18:34; 6th overall and 1st among forwards.
Last game, Winnik had 14:40 ES TOI, 18:57 TOI. That’s 4:17 on the PK, highest on the team and followed by McClement with 3:56. Against Dallas, Winnik was 9th overall and 3rd among forwards in ES TOI.
"Noooo!!!" - Referee, Oilers @ Avs, 26.11.2011
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, for everything but mathematics. Blood and Thunder Record: 9-10-1 (Total Record: 10-14-1)
by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 29, 2011 8:04 AM MST up reply actions
Is that indicative of the last 6-8 games or was this an outlier?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I’d have to break it down but I’ve noticed he’s had the highest total time on ice of all forwards for at least 3 or 4 weeks now.
Spoon!!!!!!!!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 29, 2011 8:11 AM MST up reply actions
Get to breakin’. If it’s as you say, I’ll write a scathing editorial.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I'm doing it right now. Please forgive the tardiness, I'm also helping my girlfriend with something...
…and boobs > stats.
"Noooo!!!" - Referee, Oilers @ Avs, 26.11.2011
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, for everything but mathematics. Blood and Thunder Record: 9-10-1 (Total Record: 10-14-1)
by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 29, 2011 8:38 AM MST up reply actions
this
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
I don’t know. I’m sure Jibble can come in here with some kind of Get Lucky stat that will attempt to put boobs in a different light.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
The best light to see boobs in are bright ones
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 8:46 AM MST up reply actions
Expensive player contracts are highly correlated with Getting Lucky.
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Nov 29, 2011 8:46 AM MST up reply actions
Hmm
I need to see a larger sample size to validate any of this.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
See all the models with any athlete, singer, actor. Chick dig cash over looks.
Spoon!!!!!!!!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 29, 2011 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
I meant I need to see a bigger sampling of boobs to determine whether they are > stats
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
So…..they don’t look better with the lights off?
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Nov 29, 2011 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
I prefer a soft light, like sunrise or sunset or just around those times, no harsh glare associated with bright light.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
isn’t there a site on the interwebs that will do it for me? I’m really more of an ‘idea’ man and not so much the follow through.
Spoon!!!!!!!!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 29, 2011 8:50 AM MST up reply actions
done, fanpost.
Spoon!!!!!!!!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 29, 2011 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
Dater's "rip job" includes:
Indictment of Duchene
Indictment of Stastny
Indictment of team attitude
this:
What does GM Greg Sherman have to say about all this? Dunno, he hasn’t wanted to talk to the media lately. I’ve asked. Josh Kroenke? Ditto. It’s like Avalanche management has all retreated into the bunker lately, hoping not to be seen by the dastardly one or two people that actually cover this team anymore. I mean, can you imagine if these guys worked in Toronto or Montreal or Vancouver or Philly or New York? The media would be all over them for answers. But I guess in good old little cowtown Denver, they don’t really need to answer to anybody. At least, that’s the impression they give off too much.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
I actually find myself agreeing with Dater a lot lately. A LOT.
When does the hurting stop?
by BraxtanFILM on Nov 28, 2011 11:53 PM MST up reply actions
Me 3
MasterDater correctly identifies the organizational rot at that root of the problem.
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.
Yeah I agree. I seem to be agreeing with D more and more lately. Its weird.
by Avalanchefan86 on Nov 29, 2011 8:26 AM MST up reply actions
And where is Silent Joe in all of this?? Is he just a figurehead?
by Uncle Richie on Nov 29, 2011 9:26 AM MST up reply actions
I see the Avs’ management has wisely adopted the words of the good book, Proverbs 17:28:
“Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.”
Everything that ever was and ever shall be, I am.
by Jimmy Howard on Nov 29, 2011 8:42 AM MST up reply actions
Management hiding from the media and being even more secretive than usual?
I smell a trade.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
I don’t know but that would be more important than trading a player. If they get a good gm who knows hockey and a new coach things would be better I think.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
Al Davis traded Jon Gruden to Tampa Bay for 2 first round draft picks, 2 second round draft picks, and $8 million.
by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 29, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
This was a really bad loss. Not that we got out played, We just didn’t find a way to beat a very hot Goalie tonight. The problem is that all of these losses has to add up. It is a shame that we are dragged to this level, but trading our 1st doesn’t give this losing an alternative feel good. We just need to find a way to win games by any means.
I hear what you are saying but com’n. Every time we lose it’s against a “hot” goalie. Overcome it. Raycroft was 0-2011 coming into the game and they had lots of other injuries too. The shots were mostly routine, no traffic, etc. It’s just an excuse. It’s not ironic that the lone goal was a rebound while crashing the net. That’s where Sacco is clueless, he keeps talking about that but you never see any change from the play?
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
I was being sarcastic with the HOT. HE played out of his mind this game and it was his best game since his rookie year, still that team had half of their AHL defense in and an AHL caliber goalie and all we got was 1 goal. We got to find ways to win games like this.
by avalanchejef on Nov 29, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
No question about that, I mean if you can’t beat that team, I don’t know what to think. To me, it’s an easy choice to fire Sacco at this point. Nobody could do much worse and we have some time this season to turn things around. To be fair, the real problems are in this order:
1. Owner- by FAR the biggest rpoblem we have
2. Fatso Lacroix (if he is still in power which I think he is) and/or Sherman (who IMO has gotten fleeced on trades, etc.)
3. Coach
No coach is going to win the division with this team but I think Sacco has been tuned out and they need a fresh voice. They don’t adjust their play and his personnel decisions suck. Jones was your team leading goal scorer and he’s languishing on a line with 2 guys who suck and couldn’t score on a Friday night in Vegas. Can you imagine Perry or nash (not that he is those guys) on the 4th line or a horrible 2nd line like we have? EWe can’t score and he’s one of our best goal scorers but sacco keeps winnik with ROR line. That makes zero sense to me.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
To address your assessment:
1. Owner- by FAR the biggest rpoblem we have
Maybe. But to be fair, you have absolutely no clue if that is true or not. None of them talk to the media, so there’s no possibility that you have any insight at all what goes on in the Pepsi Center offices.
2. Fatso Lacroix (if he is still in power which I think he is) and/or Sherman (who IMO has gotten fleeced on trades, etc.)
See comment above.
3. Coach
You may have some clue whether Sacco is the problem since he actually talks to the media. Again, though, I’d say that your insight is almost completely limited to the hindsight scenarios that you invent in your own head.
So, the worth of your assessment plus a dollar can still buy me nothing much. Can’t even get a cup of coffee with that any more.
my address to your comments
1. Known fact, we are 20+ M under cap for one. Guy doesn’t even say a word or even show up
2. signing lindy and kobasew vs Ryder or a real player for one
3. The record we have
The end
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 5:47 PM MST up reply actions
1. Not a known fact. Maybe Enos said, “Spend to the ceiling” and Sherman just turned the rest into bonuses for management. Likely? No. But point being: You don’t know.
2. Lacroix may be out to pasture and have no say whatsoever. Just there as a sinecure for past success. Point being: You don’t know.
3. Coach could be the best thing since sliced bread and could coach the Panthers to the cup, but the players may just think it’d be cool to see him get fired so they are underperforming. Point being: You don’t know.
In other words, you are making crap up. We’re all pissed about how the season’s going, yes. But, like the rest of us, you don’t have a clue what’s going on in the dressing room/management suites.
Wouldn’t it be cool if there was someone available who might have a bone to pick with an organization that just let him go and would love to make sure the #1 draft pick that they had coming from us was not very high just to screw them a little bit? Wouldn’t that be awesome?
Uceray Udreaubay
I think Boudreau would be a good choice for the Avs. He’s a great coach for young guys and helping develop them (he made Mike Green what he is), not so much for superstars but the Avs don’t really have any difficult superstar players. He’s a good guy and I was sad to see him go, but it was time because it was clear that he lost the Caps with the shitshow they put on ice recently. His playoff coaching performance was lacking, but that isn’t necessarily a major issue for a team like the Avs. Who knows, maybe he learns something his second time around.
Dater said that the Avs won’t hire outside the organization so no go on Boudreau. That’s really too bad. I think Boudreau could help the Avs. One thing though, I personally believe Boudreau’s goalie mismanagement is part of why Varly wanted to leave the Caps. He does admit that he doesn’t know anything about goalies though so maybe he’d force them to hire a full time goalie coach.
by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 29, 2011 12:28 AM MST up reply actions
My only concern is his lack of playoff success with a super good team. That being said at least his teams make the playoffs. I would like to see his style of play incorporated here. As far a Roy goes, there is no way he coaches this team. He would have complete melt downs night in and night out
by avalanchejef on Nov 29, 2011 1:54 AM MST up reply actions
The “hire from within” will kill this franchise if it hasn’t already.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I agree, WTF does that mean? First of all, at some point you have to get invited to be part of it thus everybody at one pt was “outside” the org. You know what, fat boy Lacroix is the real problem and if he’s grooming jr to be next we are in deep shit.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
We could really use a “fucking stop feeling fucking sorry for yourselves” speech or two right about now.
by Mapletreemarty on Nov 29, 2011 4:32 AM MST up reply actions
He does admit that he doesn’t know anything about goalies though so maybe he’d force them to hire a full time goalie coach.
I’d venture to guess that 95% of the league’s coaches don’t know jack shit about goalies, including Sacco so I don’t see that as an impetus for Colorado to go out and get a full-time coach.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Example, Joel Quenneville…who won a Stanley Cup with a rookie goalie who barely played during the regular season. That guy couldn’t figure out goalies on any team, but still is a cup winner
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
Also: A Coach Colorado fans clammored to fire.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 7:43 AM MST up reply actions
Over his lack of playoff success beyond the first round…which remained true for the most part, until he went to Chicago. Hindsight sucks sometimes
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
I stand behind that clamoring. Quenneville was saddled with a bunch of square pegs and mis-matched parts of something half-decent. He didn’t fit with the organization any more than half of the players he had at the time did.
And he fell ass-backward into a cushy gig in Chicago, IMO. Good for him, but it doesn’t suddenly validate his as a world-beater.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
He also had some nice upstairs help in Chicago with Scotty Bowman. Nice to have a billion time Cup winning coach at your disposal when things aren’t going well
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
I think he was a pretty good coach. He mis-used some players for sure, but I think it was unwise to let him go.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 7:50 AM MST up reply actions
Given the nepotism we’re shackled to know, I’m more than likely forced to agree.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
He was a nepotism hire as well…granted he had other stops first
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
Ohh, I know. I’m just saying that instead of going nepotism with experience, we’ve now only got nepotism with no experience and/or no discernible difference in how things will likely go.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Or we just recycle something that didn’t work the first time. Tony Granato….
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
3rd times the charm?
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Nov 29, 2011 8:12 AM MST up reply actions
Well if he’s in charge of special teams in Pittsburgh, which I would guess he has a hand in, he’s doing something right. Maybe he’s just a good assistant…and a terrible head coach. Wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibilities
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
Orrrrrr, he has a stacked line-up in Pittsburgh?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Not when Crosby and Malkin were out at the same time already several times. Same results. Similar last year as well…though it didn’t quite work in the playoffs
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
If Granato is learning from Bylsma, I don’t think it will be long before he gets another shot somewhere.
Bylsma gives me the impression that he could launch a bunch of careers for assistants, much like Babcock.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
Disco Dan, the ’stache that launched a thousand careers
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
Maybe we could get one of Bylsma’s assistents
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
exactly, put out crsby and malkin. The end
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
I agree, talent still wins no matter what all things else being equal. I don’t think Bob hartley was a genius.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
You don’t think Boudreau could say, ok I’ll take the job, but only if you hire a goalie coach as well? I don’t think he wants to be responsible for the goalies. Honestly, how much would a goalie coach cost? I would think they would make less than any of the players. I just don’t get how cheap the Avs owners are.
I asume they would get paid like an assistant coach, maybe a bit less, does anyone know?
Spoon!!!!!!!!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 29, 2011 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
the Avs won’t hire outside the organization
If things like this are true it’s eventually going to become very hard to be an Avalanche fan.
As far as the Caps go I think you’ll see a “dead cat bounce” with Hunter, but the problems run deeper than what his coaching can potentially fix. Just my opinion and surely not fact or even an educated guess.
Uceray Udreaubay
Does the jibblewife know about this?
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Nov 29, 2011 8:07 AM MST up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing. Hard to admit but at some point it makes you wonder…why do i care????
by spokane-avs-fan on Nov 29, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
Meanwhile, I don’t detect nearly enough anger in the Avs’ dressing room after nights like tonight. Talk about a contrast between the Avs of now and the past: remember when Patrick Roy smashed up two TVs and a VCR in the office of Bob Hartley in 1999, in Anaheim? That came after a game the Avs WON (though Roy didn’t get credit for the win)
Dater
This hits the nail on the head…this team is okay with losing…this team will never go anywhere until they get rid of that attitude.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Well, in their defense, it is the one thing they are consistent about…
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
by Mike @ MHH on Nov 29, 2011 7:42 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
When you lose every other night it gets hard to find anymore VCR’s to break.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Nov 29, 2011 8:49 AM MST up reply actions
Whenyou lose every other nightit’s 2011, it gets hard to find anymore VCR’s to break.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
We just need to upgrade and have someone break a blueray player instead.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
KSE may find VCR’s more affordable, given this teams propensity to lose and KSE’s propensity to have less than functioning.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Nov 29, 2011 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
VCRs are still hooked up to our jumbotron via simple cable inputs. KSE still gets good deals on VHS tapes at Walgreens.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
Have you tried to buy a VCR lately? You can’t find them without being a DVD combo and the cost between $50.00 and $300.00…even at Wal-mart.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Nov 29, 2011 9:30 PM MST up reply actions
It doesn’t have to be a working VCR. Who do you think we are dealing with? The Phoenix Coyotes?
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Nov 29, 2011 9:39 PM MST up reply actions
I have a working one for free if anyone wants it. please. It’ll save me trip to the dump.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
that’s sacco all day, that’s what a coach is for. They have tuned him out, period.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
Stop me when you have heard this before.
The Avs, coming off a good win against a decent team (this year at least), are at home against a team playing their back-up goalie, with a few of their best players out due to injury. Then they barely show up, and lose in an apathetic effort, while the back-up, who normally has problems keeping pucks out of the net over the course of his career, looks like the 2nd coming of Patrick Roy, and the Avs lose.
Avalanche hockey…catch the fever!
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
Its getting so old and stale.
I am tired of the hot goalie talk… When 95% of your shots are coming off the boards and from the blue line with no traffic out in front that doesn’t a hot goalie make. Fuck, my grandma could be a hot goalie based on the fact the Avs don’t go to the middle of the ice.
You gotta fight for the middle of the ice and for rebounds, but we are just content in hugging the boards and trying to “cycle” the puck.
by Mapletreemarty on Nov 29, 2011 4:30 AM MST up reply actions
Raycroft wasn’t a hot goalie…he came into the game 0-5 with a .899 save percentage. That’s not exactly stellar
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
Agreed
I’m just saying that any goalie seems to look hot against the Avs.
With numbers like that how do you only put up 1 goal (in the last 5 mins of the game) on 35 shots…
by Mapletreemarty on Nov 29, 2011 6:41 AM MST up reply actions
When 95% of your shots are coming off the boards and from the blue line with no traffic out in front that doesn’t a hot goalie make. Fuck, my grandma could be a hot goalie based on the fact the Avs don’t go to the middle of the ice.
Were we even watching the same game? Raycroft made great saves on great scoring chances. The Duchene-Stastny-Hejduk line had at least 5 great chances by my count. O’Reilly’s line had at least 2, and the Galiardi, Porter, Kobasew line had a few as well.
I really wish I had time to de-bunk this “Shots from the perimeter” myth. Raybroft played well. The Avs made some key mistakes (Elliott looked like a rookie tonight, O’Brien and Hejda were atrocious on Ryder’s goal)
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 6:38 AM MST up reply actions
As were Elliott and Wilson on the first goal…
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
I noticed one really nice play from Elliott, and 3 bad ones. Hist turnover to give up the ENer was pretty atrocious.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 6:50 AM MST up reply actions
Than perhaps it’s our inability to finish?? We continue to have great chances but can’t seem to bury them. Watching the Edmonton game and watching our guys get into great scoring areas with the puck only to fire it wide of the net makes you want to pull your hair out. Perhaps it’s that this team has zero confidence, maybe they just don’t believe that they can score?
I’ve been hearing about taking away positives from games we’ve lost since last January and there isn’t anything new to add.
I’m just frustrated, as many Avs fans are, and have a tendency to rant.
by Mapletreemarty on Nov 29, 2011 6:46 AM MST up reply actions
I’m just frustrated, as many Avs fans are, and have a tendency to rant.
I can relate to that, I think we’re all frustrated.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 6:49 AM MST up reply actions
.. and ranting/frustration leads to over exaggeration, which leads to blowing things out of proportion and finally, eventually, leads to hatred haha.
by Mapletreemarty on Nov 29, 2011 6:52 AM MST up reply actions
It’s the path that leads to the dark side.
OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd
by Busted Twigg on Nov 29, 2011 7:00 AM MST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
The Avs power play killed her.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Nov 29, 2011 8:10 AM MST up reply actions
Porter and McClement are our best players
That is why you fail.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
I agree, he played well. He fought through some good screens and held onto the puck or put it effectively into the corner. His D stepped in and removed a ton of second chances as well.
Hejda’s slapper in the fourth BARELY missed or we might be having a different conversation.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
After some great work by Stats and Duchene, Duchene had the puck on the doorstep (when still 1-0) in the 3rd with Raycroft down and he tried to lift the puck on the backhand and put it about 2 feet high.
That was the killer to me.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 8:11 AM MST up reply actions
Missed that one. I flipped back and forth because I didn’t want to see ANOTHER FUCKING EMPTY NET GOAL. The early parts of the third were missed as I was watching the best of Top Gear on BBC America.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
It was directly in front of me. I could not miss it unless I were Duchene
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 8:27 AM MST up reply actions
As an expert, having seen the replay, that backhander went off Raycroft’s mask. If Duchene had shot it an inch higher, it would have been a goal.
Are you asking me or telling me?
THE COLORADO AVALANCHE HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP. RAYMOND BOURQUE: A DREAM COME TRUE!
His D stepped in and removed a ton of second chances as well.
Yup. Some very juicy rebounds, Three stars, no Avs.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
How’d you get the Avs offense to look so much like Homer Simpson?
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
goddam, thank you! those fucking shots Helen Keller could stop.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
and Ryder out hustled the Avs to the puck to deposit his second goal of the night, this one into the empty net.
Point of fact, he didn’t out-hustle anybody. He made Elliott look like a rookie and took the puck away from him on the boards. Rookie mistake ends up in back of net. News @ 11.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
And that was the second time of the night Elliot was made to look like the rookie he is. He and Wilson got out-played on the first goal too. I don’t think it’s all skill level, it’s mostly experience – or lack thereof.
The blogist formerly known as Paul's Coffey
by Brett Shumway on Nov 29, 2011 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
Who would have thought that, “Worn with pride” was ironic?
Spoon!!!!!!!!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 29, 2011 8:13 AM MST reply actions
should say worn with puke that flew over the boards from fans that paid $100/ticket
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
Dear Avalanche Players and Coaches,
If you give up another empty net goal at home, I will punch a nun, you c&*%-juggling thunder c!%$s.
Sincerely,
Mike
PS. Don’t click the link if you have a job.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
by Mike @ MHH on Nov 29, 2011 8:18 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
and why do we not want to click the link if we have a job?? haha
by Avalanchefan86 on Nov 29, 2011 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
Why? Does clicking the link get you fired?
by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 29, 2011 4:27 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Quick
Someone with talent put Stastny’s face on one of those “Have you seen me?” milk cartons. He was brutal, for the most part, again last night. Meanwhile two guys who we could have had for nothing (one UFA and another guy waived) scored goals against us. Other than that, everything is fricken peachie! FU Enos. FU with a half empty arena.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
…but but, this team is playing better than it’s record
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
They’re just unlucky.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
Statistical proof of luck is bullshit.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
You’ll be lucky to find any stats to back that up.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
80% of the public knows that.
Spoon!!!!!!!!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 29, 2011 1:14 PM MST up reply actions
90% of the time. Hey, I think I found our new coach!
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 1:16 PM MST up reply actions
You weren’t watching the same game as me last night. Maybe you and Dater were watching the same game.
Fact is, the Stastny line was great from the second period on (but sucked in the first). They created a ton of scoring Chances. there was the one I mentioned above, then there was one where Duchene leveled a guy with the puck, which went to Stastny, he flipped the puck over the guy and sprung Duchene-Hejduk for a pseudo 2vs1, the one where Stastny stepped around a guy on the doorstep and drove hard to the net and the puck eventually squirted wide, and another one where a shot came from the point and Raycroft reached around stastny in traffic to make a terrific glove save.
That’s 4 terrific scoring chances that line had off the top of my head, any one of which could have easily ended up in the back of the net. It’s insanely frustrating that they didn’t butlet’s not re-write what actually happened
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
Did you pick all that up watching it on TV? Because I was sitting with BiB in section 250 and didn’t see a whole lot of excellence. I did see the Duchene chance you’re talking about. The shot was so high that I thought Raycroft got a piece of it, but I guess not.
I saw the pseudo 2-on-1, which I don’t think they really created much of a chance from.
Didn’t see too many clear-cut chances besides that, but I didn’t get to watch the replay, either.
I was sitting in 358 with my dad actually. I was on the edge of my seat most of the 2nd and 3rd. Maybe you too were too cozy your Club seats?
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
why you sitting there, club seats are now like 9 bucks on stubhub.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
Because we bought the tickets at the beginning of the season.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions
Because Jibble is one of the cool kids that shares seats with my season ticket group. Half of them are $23 lower bowl seats, so we are doing OK, relative to other season ticket holders, who are being fleeced.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
god knows they are in deep shit on season tix next year if they don’t make a miraculous turnaround.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
I would say we were definitely watching different games because the Avs I saw were pretty harmless and dull. Probably the most boring game for me since Minnesota. At least on TV.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
I thought the first 1/2 of the game was pretty boring. Second half was a lot better
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
I thought the “effort” against Vancouver was worse. But I still say that Raycroft had a pretty easy night overall.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
I agree, the fact is when you score zero goals most of the game the crown is totally out of it and there were few big scoring flurries. Dallas was coming in playing all D becuase of the injuries and Sacco should have knew that and adjusted. On the PP, they need to learn to just put 2 guys in front and have the D shoot and pray for a rebound. That’s where they could have won the game but our PP was atrocious, I’m surprised that hasn’t been mentioned yet b/c that is what really cost us the game.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
I’m old, and I need glasses.
You should have let us know you were there, I was really thirsty last night.
I guess I should pay more attention to who has which games. Jibble owes me a few beers too.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
Would have been nice to wash down that $8.25 small pulled pork sandwich with hardly anything on it and no side of fries that they exclusively deliver to your seats (meaning you’ll also have to tip some bastard) in the club level.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
What do I owe you beer for?
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
Ummmmm, errrrrrrrr, that Lindstrom bet at the start of the season. I said he’d be waived before Christmas. You said he’d have 20 goals by then.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
You’re confusing me with Burgundy
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
or Thomas.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
T...J...
HENSIIIIIIIICK!!
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
I couldn’t have gotten into the club level to get you you’rewhite whine spritzer…
That and My dad and I barely arrived right at puck drop/
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
don’t be so hard on Stas, he’s like a point a game player over his career. He just needs some bounces to go his way.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
If some bounces go your way, you might have a comment that actually adds something.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
I think cool breeze has just been unlucky with his comments.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions
totally agree! My smart comment % is like 99% but I still get heat. Just unlucky like Stas. I’m gonna go on a comment spree and turn things around!
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
you win for the day
Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 29, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
My comments all come from bad angles, so on paper it looks like I have great commentary, but in reality they’re low percentage comments.
When does the hurting stop?
by BraxtanFILM on Nov 29, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
But are you commenting in the top threads or low-tier fan shots? If you’re not facing the top commenters, your rec numbers will be skewed.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
by Dixomatic on Nov 29, 2011 12:29 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
It’ll regress to the mean. He has a positive Commenti rating.
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.
I do love this discussion
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
Small sample size
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Hey now!
Don’t get personal with poor Jibble.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
Raycroft wasn't superb
He didn’t have to be. The little guys during the 1st intermission had better shots on net than most of what the Avs generated last night. And to the “Luck” indexes being discussed yesterday. It isn’t luck. It’s skill, drive, determination, and toughness. All of which the Avs have very little of.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
to be fair…. his save on O’Reilly was superb. That was ridiculous and how he kept that pad down is just amazing
Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results
by Cole D Hamilton on Nov 29, 2011 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
of all the high shot games the Avs had, I thought they had the most scoring chances this game then any other.
by avalanchejef on Nov 29, 2011 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
I didn’t see it that way at all. Raycroft only had to make a handful of really good saves. Other than that, many of our shots were from the outside without traffic in front. Sacco agreed with that assessment in his post game comments.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
I thought most of the shots were out also, but in comparison to rest of the year they had more. Even the Edmonton game our goals came out deep.
by avalanchejef on Nov 29, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
agreed, but the WHOLE point is that they were playing a team with a goalie who has not won the whole year, ZERO wins, a horrible save %, etc. and a beat up team. The Avs should have won 4-1, we shouldn’t be analyzing their 1 chance to score a goal.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
Too bad that was one of a very few chances the team got. Luck or no luck, you need to be getting more than 4 chances a game.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
It sounds like he made some better saves than we could see at the Can, Bob. That’s my big complaint about watching games live – can’t really see too much up close, especially on the cruddy “big” “screen” “jumbotron” there.
Don’t know. I listened to Sacco’s post game comments on the way home, and he seemed to agree with our assessment. He said that we made life way too easy for Raycroft.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
I was at the game too with my dad, I thought Raycroft made some terrific saves
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
Raycroft
I agree with Jibblescribbits. Raycroft was terrific!….. i cant believe some of you guys are saying he wasn’t superb LOOL. You guys had like 6 or 7 great chances but just couldn’t finish.. EXAMPLE’S Daniel Winnik’s partial break away, Matt Duchene’s wrister from the left circle on a 2-on-1 break and right after the glove save through traffic on O’Byrne , Paul Stastny’s in tight wrist shot off a wild carom off the end boards, Ryan O’Reilly’s backhand nudge from in tight which Raycroft stopped with an amazing left pad save, Jay Mcclement shorthanded chance on the 2-on-1. and i think maybe one more. So lmao all the shots weren’t from the perimeter and it wasn’t an easy night for Raycroft. He played in his Calder form, calm cool an collective.
You realize that might be the only time you see that this year, right?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Dallas plays the Avs 1 more time.
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 30, 2011 7:59 AM MST up reply actions
I wonder if the scouting report is out on Varly. It seems every team lately is shooting low and sending its forwards to about 5 to 8 feet from the net to catch the rebounds that always seem to come off of his leg pads at an angle to the net providing great rebound chances. He did do a reasonable job last night, but he seems to give up 3 times as many rebounds as every goalie he faces. Maybe it is just me and selective memory.
I don’t know…but his SV% since being benched has been great.
Ironic that when the Avs finally have reliable goaltending, they just can’t score any goals of their own.
When does the hurting stop?
by BraxtanFILM on Nov 29, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
I agree with you that he’s giving up some juicy rebounds. That’s an area of his game that he needs to work on. I hope Kirk McLean is still around working with him.
by vtcapsfan99 on Nov 29, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
Rebound on the first goal. I thought it looked bad at first, but that was actually tipped, so it was a pretty good save imo. NOt Varly’s fault that the D weren’t there to keep the guy a) from tipping the shot, and b) from driving home his own rebound.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
No it was Wilson and Elliott who held their ground on either side of the net, while the Stars player split them
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
which is what led to a) and b). Rookie mistake, miscommunication, whatever, that was on the D, not Varly.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Agree. That was a D mistake. So was the second goal (O’Brien pinching, Hejda whiffing on covering him)
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by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 3:40 PM MST up reply actions
Which….. is still only 2GAA. Generally good enough to keep your team in it, if not win a game outright.
Totally unconcerned with D and goaltending that game.
I'll keep this brief.
I understand and agree that the d and goalie are not to blame for losing. I was just pointing out that the goal in question was not because Varly let out a rebound.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Yeah, I agree with you. That cross move at the blue line is classic.
and effective.
I'll keep this brief.
If only you coached my rec team. They couldn’t figure out a play if their lives depended on it. Could be why I don’t skate with them anymore.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
it doesn’t matter b/c we aren’t going to win any games scoring 1 or zero goals. He gave us a chance and you can’t bitch about the breakaway goal. The one other goal he gave up was a tough shot to control the rebound and that’s TOTALLY the d-man’s fault. He didn’t take the man and let him right by, horrible.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
I have no real complaints about our goaltending over the last 6 games or so. Both goalies have given the Avs a good chance to win every game.
The D could be a bit tighter, and the offense is just bad right now.
When does the hurting stop?
by BraxtanFILM on Nov 29, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
thus my point, they need to make a move to try to get some offense. Mueller and even Olver or Hishon would even help I think.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
are either of them healthy and/or productive?
Spoon!!!!!!!!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 29, 2011 1:16 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe it’s that the D just lets everybody waltz right in for said rebounds?
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
that is probably something to do with it. I would say the book on scoring on the Avs is hard low shots on goal with the backside guys charging the net or already positioned about 7 or 8 feet away waiting for the rebound.
Why do the Avs seem to always over-skate the good rebound area? When they do finally get a rebound, seems like they are all crowded around the crease, but no one three or four (or five or six) feet back.
When this year have you seen Avs crowded around the crease? The other teams crease to be exact.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
maybe “outnumbering the opposition” is the terminology I am looking for, but still….
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Can't.
Their heads are in the way.
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.
by Hopfenkopf on Nov 29, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
and a rec
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
Comparison stats for 24 games
2011
Points-21
GF- 62
GA-73
2010
Points- 28
GF- 83
GA- 74
Difference
Points- (-7)
GF- (-21)
GA- +1
Player Stats
Duchene (2011/2010)- 9G, 8A, 17pts/ 7G, 15A, 22pts= +2G, (-7)A, (-5)pts
Hejduk- 7G, 8A, 15pts/ 8G, 19A, 27pts= (-1)G, (-11)A, (-12)pts
SOS- 7G, 7A, 14pts/ 9G, 13A, 22pts= (-2)G, (-6)A, (-8)pts
Jones- 7G, 7A, 14pts/ 11G, 5A, 16pts= (-4)G, +2A, (-2)pts
biggest difference is that 5th top 6th player-
2010- Stewart 11G, 14A, 25points. I know Radar, Winnik and Landy have stepped up, but those numbers are all way down compare to Stewie. FYI, Stewie is struggling bad this year for the Blues also. Radar has 14 points as that fill in. Our top 5 forwards are an outstanding -37 points from last year. -14 Goals from last year.
I guess you could say Haynes was pretty tight-lipped on the subject last night.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
The only thing the Altiboobs like more than the Avs are the teams they play against!
by spokane-avs-fan on Nov 29, 2011 12:52 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
They have to do that. We don’t suck. Every other team is “the best.”
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Nov 29, 2011 12:53 PM MST up reply actions
rec'd
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
From Twitter (paraphrase)
@Ngreenberg 65 of 96 playof teams post-lockout have gone through a 20 game stretch where they were below .500
It’s been 19 games since the Avs were 5-1, so Now that we have that out of the way…
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 12:39 PM MST reply actions
Aren’t we up to 40 or 50 game stretch by now?
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
I count last season and this season completely differently. Different goalies, different team.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
The Avs are now 22nd in goals for and 21st in goals against. Starting to look like last year.
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
And we still have half the season to tank it! TiFN(obody)! Whoo hoo!
I can only hope that they reverse the trend and tear it up in the new year.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
We need a spoof of the “It Gets Better” add campaign.
It could be filled with Penguin and Blackhawk fans!
Slightly Tasteful Fudge Underpants
Yeah, but they actually addressed some of their needs through trades and free agency. If you want to terrible “build from within” model the Avs are trying to pass off, look no further than Columbus or Florida (until both finally spent some money in the offseason…still hasn’t worked for Columbus, Florida has improved a bit)
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
which is why I think something…er….fire the coach is going to happen.
Spoon!!!!!!!!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Nov 29, 2011 4:27 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t know how you can look at last years team and this years and think they are the same. Completely different:
Varlamov
Giguere
Quincey back
Shane O’Brien
Hejda
Landeskog
Kobasew
O’Reilly & Duchene a year older (which makes a difference)
Not to mention additions of EJ and McClement.
So a roster turnover of nearly 1/3
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Nov 29, 2011 3:43 PM MST up reply actions
Yet the same glaring problems. A starter with a sub .900 save percentage (though not by much) with a GAA of over 3, a porous defense that allows too many clean shots, an awful PK and no offensive depth
Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!
and no 1st and one of our 2nd rd picks for next year. That’s where a decent gm could have helped, we could have signed Ryder vs Lindy/Kobasew and had a decent top 6 guy.
by the cool breeze on Nov 29, 2011 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t know how you can look at last years team and this years and
think they are the samenot be worried by some of the same trends. Completelydifferent:alarming, especially with the huge turnover.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
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