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Blues at Avalanche, Game 25 Preview (The Really Long-Winded Preview Edition)


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I've been kind of out of the loop 'Lanche-wise the last week or so - I just heard about Lindstrom getting waived - but a game against the Blues is just the thing to snap me out of my mini-funk. There are just so many angles here that I found interesting.

Of course, you can't talk about a Blues / Avalanche game without mentioning The Trade. Erik Johnson has been on the IR with a strained plus minus, but could possibly return to action tonight. He currently has 9 points (all helpers) and is -12 on the year, good for 728th best overall. Kevin Shattenkirk seems to be the Shattenkirk we knew all-too-briefly; he has 14 points and a +9 rating. Man, wish we could find players like that. On the flip side, Chris Stewart had 2 goals in his first 3 games and just 1 in the 18 games since. Hell, he has less points than Dan Winnik at the moment. I'd like to point and laugh...but I can't help but feel that that is a really bad omen for us. Oh, and as a minor aside, Ty Rattie - whom the Blues drafted with the Avs 2nd round pick - is tied for the WHL lead in goals right now with 27. Just sayin...

And, it has to be pointed out that the Blues are red hot. They've won 4 straight and are 8-1-2 since firing Davis Payne and replacing him with Ken Hitchcock. That can't sit well with the Sacco haters, but I am still on the Sacco bandwagon. I still don't believe the blame for the Avs' failure to date falls to Skipper Joe. I don't feel the Avs have enough star players...and I don't believe the Avs' star players are playing like star players. Some might put the coach on the hook for the latter, but I'm not one of them.

As I mentioned Monday, the Avalanche don't have consecutive regulation wins since December 15th, 74 games ago. And, they don't have consecutive home wins since January 18th (60 games). It would be tremendous to kill both of those streaks tonight.

While neither team can score (18th and 21st in the league), the Blues at least can stop the puck ranking 1st in goals against average. That, of course, is because of the incredible first quarter from....wait, Brian Elliott? That Brian Elliott? The bag of pucks we got for Craig Anderson that went 2-8-1 with a 3.83 GAA for us? The guy who inspired the tank meme? You're telling me he's leading the league in GAA and save percentage? Can this be real?

It is. The question, though, is why do goalies seem to play worse for the Avs than they do with other clubs. Actually, that's not the question. The real question: is that perception factual? I decided to put it to the test. Thanks to my favorite resource, hockey-reference.com, I looked at the 8 goalies who have played for the Avs since Gary Bettman fucked us all over (aka, the lockout). I complied their stats with the Avs and their stats with the other teams they played for, either pre- or post-Avalanche. I only used post-lockout numbers (so 2005-2006 season and beyond).

How many think the numbers for the Avs will be noticeably worse? I did, or I wouldn't have bothered with the frigging thing. Of course, I was wrong.

Player TM GP W L T/O GA SA SV SV% GAA SO MIN
Anderson w/COL 104 51 40 10 285 3190 2905 .911 2.83 7 6045
other 121 52 38 13 304 3576 3272 .915 2.80 8 6522
Budaj w/COL 242 101 91 27 627 6363 5736 .901 2.83 9 13313
other 4 1 3 0 10 116 106 .914 2.50 0 240
Elliott w/COL 12 2 8 1 44 404 360 .891 3.83 0 690
other 197 84 73 24 511 5245 4734 .903 2.86 15 10727
Varlamov w/COL 18 7 10 1 52 524 472 .901 2.95 1 1057
other 59 30 13 12 136 1636 1500 .917 2.39 4 3416
Giguere w/COL 8 4 3 0 14 184 170 .924 1.85 1 453
other 288 141 86 42 690 7772 7082 .911 2.58 15 16050
Raycroft w/COL 31 12 16 0 90 836 746 .892 3.14 0 1722
other 167 65 68 17 465 4352 3887 .893 3.15 6 8857
Theodore w/COL 91 42 39 5 233 2370 2137 .902 2.76 3 5072
other 192 104 54 23 522 5454 4932 .904 2.89 5 10853
Aebischer w/COL 43 25 14 2 123 1233 1110 .900 2.98 3 2477
other 40 17 16 3 122 1202 1080 .899 3.27 0 2238

Sample size makes this tricky, but look how close the numbers are for Abby, Theodore, Raycroft, Anderson and Budaj. I suspect Giguere and Elliott will come down to earth at some point, making those numbers a bit closer and hopefully Varlamov will end up with something closer to his pre-Avalanche numbers (oh please oh please oh please oh please). Overall, these numbers are, well, really freaking close. On the whole, they are even closer:

GP W L T/O GA SA SV SV% GAA SO MIN
TOTALS w/COL 549 244 221 46 1468 15104 13636 .903 2.86 24 30829
other 1068 494 351 134 2760 29353 26593 .906 2.81 53 58903

In other words, the 8 goalies above had an aggregate save percentage of .903 while with the Avs and .906 with other teams. Technically, they've played a bit worse for the Avs, but in effect that difference is so close as to be nearly insignificant (we're talking about 8 goals over an average season). To me, these numbers are close enough to dispel any myth that our goaltending woes of late have been a function of coaching or lack of defensive system. It's just that we haven't had great goalies. I'm not sure if this makes me happy or sad, to be honest.

Oh, and as an aside, since I had the numbers I thought I'd look at the Avs goaltending stats during the 2 years the team had a full-time goalie coach compared to when they used part time goalie "consultants" (you know, to save money for the rebuild). I have no idea who the Avs' goalie coach was in 2005-2006, if they used one at all. No one was listed in the media guide and my memory sucks, so I tossed that year out. Jeff Hackett was a part time goalie coach in 2006-2007 before spending two years as a full-time coach. He was jettisoned in the house cleaning in 2009, replaced by Jocelyn Thibault on a part-time basis. A year later, Thibault gave way to Kirk McLean who is currently in season number two with the club. So, how do the two seasons with full-time Hackett compare to the years we had a part time coach?



GP W L T/O GA SA SV SV% GAA SO MIN
FT Coach
175 76 76 12 449 4583 4134 .902 2.72 5 9894
PT Coach
292 128 118 25 795 8291 7496 .904 2.92 14 16359

If there's a huge statistical difference here, I'm not seeing it. I'm not the Avalanche shouldn't stop being cheap bastards fiscally conservative and hire a goaltending coach full time. I'm just saying I can't find a quantitative argument in the stats. Also, I used quantitative in sentence, which kind of makes me happy.

To sum it up, Erik Johnson is good but maybe not good enough to make me miss Kevin Shattenkirk and his freakishly bald head. I still don't want Kevin Hitchcock on my team. Brian Elliott isn't having a career revival because he got away from the Avalanche any more than Craig Anderson had a career year because of the defensive prowess of Scott Hannan and Brett Clark and none of this will matter one iota to me if the Avalanche would just win two freaking games in a row.

I'll now hand over the podium to the senator from Iowa. Thanks for listening.

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The Blues are the hottest team in the NHL right now…not named the Penguins anyway.

The Avs are coming off a big win over the Devils, but again, they are in the East and the Avs have dominated the east (6-1). Not so much against the west (5-12-1).

This is more of a test than the Devils game. The Avs poor at home, poor against the West, and coming off a win. If they break the trends here it MAY be a building block.

In other news, I got to eat what looked like the most disgusting thing ever this morning, a bacon long-john donut. It was SOOOO good:

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 7:13 AM MST reply actions  

Bruins seem to be pretty damn hot right now also

by avalanchejef on Dec 2, 2011 7:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Oops, yeah forgot that 10 game streak

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 7:40 AM MST up reply actions  

You must hate hockey.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 7:44 AM MST up reply actions  

I haven’t seen the replays

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 7:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Pfffttt

amateur!

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

There is nothing disgusting about that, donuts and bacon should be a staple of everyone’s diet. Combined into one just may give someone super powers.

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 7:55 AM MST up reply actions  

We had our stations annual Toys for Tot’s drive this morning, and a local bakery dropped off about 5 boxes of these suckers. The Marines took down about 4 on their own

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 8:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Seal Team 6 always gets their doughnut.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 9:52 AM MST up reply actions  

if the avs stay true to form this is going to be a boring game followed by an avs loss.

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 9:10 AM MST up reply actions  

If the Blues play to the Western Conference recipe, this will be a boring game concluded by a EN goal.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 9:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Aren’t we due to get blown out? Former Avs galore and all.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 9:55 AM MST up reply actions  

If Avs score first, expect some end-to-end action. If the Blues get ahead, expect them to trap and collapse to the net on defense, and dump and cycle on offense. Such is our lot until the Avs can beat the trap with control of the puck.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

I just had a thought, do you think that the avs know why they are getting beaten and besides the Johnson injury is that some of the reason Elliot got called up?

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m sure they’ve seen more video than I have, and they have vastly more hockey knowledge and experience. Yes, they know. I can’t really guess why Elliott and not someone else, but yours is a reasonable explanation.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 10:24 AM MST up reply actions  

The B’s are 12-0-1 in their last 13.
The Rangers are 11-1 in their last 12.

by Mapletreemarty on Dec 2, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions  

Well… have fun all. I’m not watching tonight. That way everybodies happy, if we win, well… we won and if we lose then I get to watch games again

Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results

by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 7:15 AM MST reply actions  

I feel bad for you

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 7:19 AM MST up reply actions  

i mean…. its project week, I probably shouldnt be watching anyway

Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results

by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 7:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Hockey trumps all…OK not so much

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 7:26 AM MST up reply actions  

A couple years ago I told one of my college professors that I would be unable to study for finals because someone had the nerve to schedule finals week during the Cup playoffs.

by SDAvsFan on Dec 2, 2011 7:40 AM MST up reply actions  

How did that work out for you?

"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin

by Nemesis44UK on Dec 2, 2011 8:37 AM MST up reply actions  

That worked for me once actually. It was 2004, I was going to school in FL and the instructor was from Calgary.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 8:40 AM MST up reply actions  

It worked out well.
I still passed my tests and am gainfully employed.
:)

by SDAvsFan on Dec 2, 2011 9:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Way to take one for the team, Cole!

Goalie Coach? Goalie Coach!?! We don't need no stinkin' Goalie Coach!

by AceODale on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Cole

George McPhee will pay you to watch every Av game for the remainder of the season.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought you were going to the game tonight?

by LeonardoC6 on Dec 2, 2011 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

sunday

Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results

by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Best. Preview. Ever.

I still like the Johnson and Varly trades.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 7:39 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

you are a better Avs fan than me. I dont mind the Johnson trade but not a big fan of the Varley trade

by avalanchejef on Dec 2, 2011 7:49 AM MST up reply actions  

It will be a good debate for a while I think. First, the season needs to end so we know what the Avs gave up. Then we need to assess his play vs. the player drafted. Then we need to wait at least a few years to see each of the player’s respective progression. If the Avs get the goaltender of the future, I am happy with almost anything they gave up.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 7:54 AM MST up reply actions  

My issue is not the talent. It is that I believe we gave up way to much. This guy was on his way out of DC, and going to Russia. The Caps were going to lose him for nothing. I think a second would have gotten him. I am confident just a first would have gotten him. I am not saying he is not worth the first or second, but I think he was available for a lot less. Especially after McPhee’s comments after the trade.

by avalanchejef on Dec 2, 2011 8:14 AM MST up reply actions  

*I am not saying he is not worth the first and second

by avalanchejef on Dec 2, 2011 8:14 AM MST up reply actions  

I think Sherm’s counter to that was “sure, Varly was available at a lower price, but that would’ve been a price a lot of teams would’ve been willing to pay.” It was about beating out the competition.. not that we can confirm/deny there were other offers.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 8:16 AM MST up reply actions  

I am also curious. Let’s say they offer sheeted him, which is the commonly held theory about how he could have been obtained. If Washington matches, there is no way in hell the Avs can get him.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 8:17 AM MST up reply actions  

MC has a good point. I do not know what the negotiations were. This is just speculation. Just a feeling.

by avalanchejef on Dec 2, 2011 9:02 AM MST up reply actions  

None of us do. I just have a hard time believing Sherman would randomly or purposefully overpay if he didn’t need to. Especially being an accountant and all that crap.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 9:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Two things that people forget about the Varlamov trade:

1. The leverage that the Varlamov camp was applying through the KHL would have gone away if Varly had signed a RFA offer sheet. That’s an NHL contract, and kills any option of going to the KHL. So, the Avs could have offer-sheeted him, but he never would have signed.

2. Lokomotiv had the KHL rights to Varlamov, but wasn’t willing to pay him what he wanted, nor did they show any willingness to trade his rights.

Leaving the NHL was not really a viable option for Varlamov. An Avalanche offer sheet would likely not have been signed (to keep the illusion of a KHL exit alive), so the compensatory picks (lower than the 1st and 2nd actually traded) were never in play. Sherman is not an idiot, so we can assume that the 1st and 2nd is what it took to land Varlamov.

Too much? I think on ice performance will determine it, like it does for any trade.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 9:25 AM MST up reply actions  

I think Sherman is an idiot for not lottery protecting the pick like the Blues did. Other then that I like the trade.

by CMM09 on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

For all we know, he may have tried, but GMGM may have said no.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

It was just interesting to hear GMGM say “I could not believe they offered that much”. That is a paraphrase but it was something to that effect.

by avalanchejef on Dec 2, 2011 10:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Mostly all that tells me is the Washington GM is a total dickhole.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 10:53 AM MST up reply actions  

That was shitty and very unprofessional

by avalanchejef on Dec 2, 2011 10:53 AM MST up reply actions  

This.

Small defencemen? What small defencemen?

by ljp78 on Dec 2, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Well, that was part of the statement. Really, he said he couldn’t believe the Avs were willing to give that right now. That was what they wanted but they didn’t think they’d get it until this season after Varly had more healthy playing time.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 2, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

GMGM was absolutely ecstatic after the trade about getting as much as got. He said he didn’t expect to be able to get that much for Varly until the following off season. You may be right but my gut says protecting the pick wasn’t something that Sherman brought up let alone pressed for. If it ends up being a lottery pick and Sherman is still around then he will need to answer that question.

by CMM09 on Dec 2, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions  

It’s certainly possible, but that’s where you need a Team President or Owner that’s involved enough to ask that question and factor it in to their decision process when the GM’s job is on the line. I think that’s part of our (fans) problem with the situation – we have no knowledge or faith in how involved ownership and/or upper-upper-management is.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 10:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Given we had just drafted Siemens with that protected pick one spot above the protection line, it had to be pretty close to top-of-mind. Like everyone else here, I have no idea what really happened.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

That he might have gone to THAT team occurred to me too – you have to imagine somewhere in his mind he has to feel pretty damn lucky.

That's no moon...

by notapunk on Dec 2, 2011 5:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Not exactly

Survivors’ guilt can really suck.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Dec 2, 2011 6:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed. These guys aren’t dumb. They know the routes and the rules to a trade. I don’t think that Shermy just phoned up and offered them that.

Besides, Vokoun was off the table and no one knew that JS would be so amazing, what other options were there? The only one who was worth more than a cup of cold piss was Ray Emery.

As much as I didn’t like Budaj/Elliot, I don’t think a combo of Michael Leighton and John Graham would’ve been better.

"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin

by Nemesis44UK on Dec 2, 2011 8:47 AM MST up reply actions  

And Ray Emery is awful this year. Maybe has had one good game, but he looks terribly slow, and just out of sorts

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 8:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Do you think we could have had one LA’s goalies for a 1st and a 2nd or Schneider from Vancouver?

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 8:59 AM MST up reply actions  

With the way Schnieder is playing? Maybe…

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

No way LA would have given up either of their tenders. They were adamant about that, perhaps not in the media, but certainly in the LA camp it was known.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 2, 2011 12:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree with you Mr hor8.

If Varly becomes a cornerstone for the next few years, then it is a darn fine deal.

"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin

by Nemesis44UK on Dec 2, 2011 8:43 AM MST up reply actions  

I still don’t like the trade, no matter how well Varly plays. It’s obvious to me this team wasn’t ready to make that kind of deal. This was the kind of deal a team like Chicago or NYR makes. Teams that can use FA to fill holes. Since we don’t use FA, Varly can maybe help this squad attain mediocrity (where the draft pickings become a crap shoot) but there’s little he can do to take this team to the top. We just don’t have the top-end talent around him, and we killed an entire draft worth of the only way this franchise brings in top talent.

However, all can be made well with the signing of a Parise or Suter/Weber during FA. Impossible? Probably. But bringing in a guy like that via FA totally washes out losing two high picks to help an already depleted system.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions  

well you know I agree with you and the fact is the ONLY way they can get better is to sign some GOOD FA’s (see lindy/kobaru). The only guy I can think of who may develop into a good NHL player at forward is Hishon and he’s obviously a huge question mark. Mueller can’t be counted on so unless they do that how can they get better. What I don’t undertsand from people is that I would bet anything that a 2nd rd pick and maybe a 3rd or someone like gali may have been enough for varly as the Caps were going to go with their other goalies IMO anyway. A potential lottery pick and a 2nd was a king’s ransom imo. They could have easily got Bernier or Schneider for that imo, tho I’m not sure nucks wanted to move schneider.

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 10:24 AM MST up reply actions  

I think neither Bernier nor Schneider were available for a reasonable price. Had they been, the would be with other teams. There are plenty of teams in need of quality goaltending.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

could be right but I don’t think a lottery pick potentially and a 2nd were likely offered by anyone as those teams really need to keep those picks to rebuild per your comments above. It’s hard to give up someone like say Toews or Duchene when you are rebuilding.

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

I expect that Sherman made calls on both goaltenders, heard what the asking price was and kept going.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Allow me to speculate that the asking price for Schneider to COL from VAN was one hot steaming cup of go fuck yourself Mr. Sherman.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 12:32 PM MST up reply actions  

And given the high possibility that COL ends up in the Pacific Division, the Bernier price might have been similar.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t question the price paid, I question the timing.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 10:34 AM MST up reply actions  

all I know is I would like it a lot more if it would have been a 2nd and 3rd or two 2nds so we could have kept the first for your reasons

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

They could have easily got Bernier

Bernier was not on the market. Why people keep thinking he was is beyond me.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 2, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

'CUZ DEE INTERWEBZ IZ ALLL TROO!!

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 12:33 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Damn, I keep forgetting that part.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120

by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 2, 2011 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m really mixed on the trade. I like Varly, think he’ll be good…. but…

I think the best the Avs can do here is break even. If the Avs play well over the course of the season and end up in the playoffs or just outside (say between 10-20 overall in the league) the Avs break even. If they do worse, then they kind of lose the trade.

Couple this with the fact that I’m really against giving up much for good goaltending anyways. I mean there wasn’t a whole lot out there for goaltending, but all sources say that the Avs broke off negotiations with Vokoun, not the other way around. Even then, replacement level goaltending is pretty easy to come by, and I think the Avs overpaid based upon recent experience (Budaj, Andy, Elliott & Theodore)

I mean, Theo, who was available, he currently has a .924 save %. Giguere was a FA and is doing well. Vokoun too. I think, long term, Varlamov will be better than all three, but will he really be $2M + 1st round pick better? Probably not. (and yes, there’s a healthy dose of hindisght bias in these statements)

That said, I like Varlamov and think he will recover from his struggles. There’s nothing much we can do about it now, the trade was made. I don’t really like it, but it was. I don’t hate it, but might grow to, depending on how Washington picks in the draft.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Giguere

To be fair I don’t think anyone expected him to be as solid as he’s been. This is the best he’s looked in a while.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Dec 2, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Agree, I think he’s playing the best he has in years. I didn’t expect this from him.

That said, that’s how easy it is to find a goalie… They are fucking nutcases

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Think Giguere would sustain this level of play as a starter though? Fatigue would be much more of an issue for Giguere than Varly, I would think.

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by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Probably not. His save% is probably higher than sustainable for him at this point in his career. I expect a regression (given enough starts), but I think his regression will be smaller than Varly’s regression upwards

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, in Mike’s defense …. Who am I kidding. You are correct.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

The Avs could move him at the deadline. With Desjardin playing well, Giguere is a valuable but expendable asset now.

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by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

I love Varly. He’s f’n talented as fuck.

But he needs a goalie coach, and he needs help.

Is he worth a first rounder? Hell yeah.

Is he worth a Crosby type player? Nope. That latter part remains to be seen…other than that, I like this trade.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

I think if the Avs make the playoffs (and I think they will) all the debate about Varly will go away. Yes?

Small defencemen? What small defencemen?

by ljp78 on Dec 2, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Exactly. If the Avs gave up just something in the teens, then no big whoop. If the Avs gave up the next Jonathan Toews, then Sherman feels the heat and we’re left sick to our stomachs.

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by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

If Varlamov turns into a truly elite franchise goalie, say like a Henrik Lundqvist, then he’s easily worth the 1st and a 2nd, maybe even if that 1st is someone like a Toews.

I think you have to build good teams starting between the pipes.

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by creamy on Dec 2, 2011 12:57 PM MST up reply actions  

EVERYBODY CHILL OUT

word has it that Alexandre Daigle’s son is draft eligible.

No problem.

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by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

So you’d trade up Duchene or Landeskog for an “if.”

I don’t see myself doing that.

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by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

I would Landy for a franchise goalie

In a fucking heartbeat. Also lol @ assuming Landy isn’t an “if” himself.

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

hey AJ, were you sitting next to the guy screaming Martin about 300x on Weds?

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 1:22 PM MST up reply actions  

ROFL

No. I was one section over but OH MY GOD that guy was hilarious. He was SO INTO IT.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree but after a while I felt sorry for the people right next to him. I was looking over there and they were about to text for security!

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah definitely

I told the person I was with that I felt bad for the people behind him because he was ALWAYS STANDING UP. Like…ALWAYS.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Was he a Devils fan or Avs fan?

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

hahaha

He was more of an “Anti-Brodeur” fan than anything else.

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 1:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I approve of the sentiment but can understand how annoying that must have been.

I was at the Muppets movie with my kids and some guy kept laughing REALLY LOUD at pretty much every line in the movie. HUGE Muppets fan, obviously, but it was a bit distracting as well.

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

It was fun and all

but he spent ALL game trying to get a mocking chant going and it took 5 goals and 53 minutes to take. He was so proud, though, so at least he has something to tell his hooker about that night.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Who is a franchise goalie? That’s the question. Goalies are flakes. The reason Brodeur is considered to be a demi-god in some cultures is because of his consistency.

I wouldn’t trade Landy for any goalie in the league right now.

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Winger >>>> goalie?

Secret Flames fan get? I mean, I wouldn’t do it NOW with our current goaltending situation but if we were in need of one…yeah. I wouldn’t have a problem with it.

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Which goalie would you trade Landy for straight up right now? No one! Not Lundquist, Miller, Quick/Bernier, Schneider, not even Brian Elliott.

And he’s not just a “winger.” He’s the future face of the franchise, the future captain, the future heart and soul of this team.

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

not even Brian Elliott.

This is so funny and so sad at the same time.

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Dec 2, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

So maybe a better way to ask the question is would anyone have traded Sakic to Montreal for Roy?

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

One HOF enshrinee for another. That’s a tough one. Greatest goalie ever for a generational talent (not all-time great). Yeah, I’d probably do it. Glad I don’t have to make those kinds of decisions.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 1:57 PM MST up reply actions  

So he's Jarome Iginla

Or, much more likely, a worse version of him. Since building around wingers, even elite ones, has shown to be a Stanley Cup winning method. This is absurd.

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Building around a goalie is a proven winner, too.

Let’s say we don’t have Varly. Who do you trade him for right now?

Goalies are flakes. There are no Marty Brodeurs any more.

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Straight up trade?

Rinne.

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 2:23 PM MST up reply actions  

this

Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results

by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Rinne stands behind one of the most effective defenses since the lockout. Hard to know if he’s as good as his numbers.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 2:25 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s given up about a bazillion goals in his last few starts and that team isn’t going to win the Stanley Cup in our lifetime. Why him? Why any goalie?

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh

So because he’s given up a lot of goals in a couple games, a Landeskog for Rinne straight up trade is a bad idea. Okay.

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 2:29 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s 29. He has a whopping 174 games under his belt. His goals against and save percentage aren’t great, and he plays for a team that has emphasized defense. Maybe he’s going to be the next Hasek, but I doubt it.

Oh, that’s right, you’re a Larsson guy.

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Sigh

I was waiting for the Larsson shit to come up. Totally different situation. That’s all about drafting and what I think Larsson is going to become. Has nothing to do with the current conversation. Way to keep it in context.

Maybe next let’s talk about how I’ve been O’Reilly’s biggest critic for his lack of offensive skill.

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

So you love Larsson, you think O’Reilly has no offensive skill, you kick kittens when you see them. DO YOU DO ANYTHING RIGHT?

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by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Sigh

Rinne’s save percentage is happening in an era where save percentages are at an all-time high. This is the dead puck era. And he’s playing on a team emphasizes defense and has studs playing in front of him.

In the 3 seasons he’s qualified among NHL leaders, his save percentage has ranked 9th, 23rd, and 2nd. He’s 17th this year.

Patrick Roy’s highest save percentage ever was .925, in his second-to-last season. Martin Brodeur’s highest save percentage ever is .927, and he’s only been above .920 three times in his career.

Way to keep it in context.

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 2:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Roy once led the league in save%… at .900

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I would have preferred the Avs not have traded for him and just signed some Free Agent.

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by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 2:51 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Roy was a special beast though (#2 all time in Tom Awad’s GVT, behind Gretzky, which is like WARP for Baseball).

And the centerpiece of that deal was an Avalanche Goalie

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Also

His career .920 save percentage isn’t impressive in any way? >_>

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

So you are willing to trade an 18 year old good to great talent for a 29 year old goalie?

I don’t like the idea on the simple fact you are probably only going to get 5 to 6 years out of the goalie and maybe not even that much. I would need to have a damn good team already built in order for that to even work.

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Definitely agree there, but Landy is much more so an unknown. Kid is a teenager still, with a couple months of NHL time under his belt.

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by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Very fair point

But it’s been the same system in Nashville since they got there and no goalie has ever been as successful as Rinne. He’s been outstanding his entire NHL career. Worst season was a .911 save percentage. WORST season. I’d take my chances on him over a guy who might be nothing more than Jamie Langenbrunner 2.0

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 2:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I seem to recall Vocoun doing rather well before the trade. Maybe not the same numbers, but he also wasn’t playing behind Suter and Weber.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I would not trade Landeskog for Rinne. Roy was different, as he was a revolutionary goalie, and there aren’t any Roys out there right now.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

And we stole Roy. And got Keane too when he could still play (unlike the return of Keane, who pretty much sucked).

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 2:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Straight up trade. Fleury, Price

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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Chicken and egg as far as I’m concerned…theres a few goalies out there that are good and great. But only the rare ones will carry a team on their back.

I’m my mind, a lot of goalies are products of the team that play infront of them, and vice versa. They go hand in hand.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I would trade Duchene for Lundqvist, if Lundqvist were 23 again (as Varly is now). Yes.

No soup for you!

by creamy on Dec 2, 2011 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Meh… if he really was elite he would have at least gotten hot or hotter and raised his game in the playoffs. He’s been kinda meh and I know the knack is that he gets no help but…meh, if he really was elite, he SHOULD be able to steal at least 1 maybe 2 rounds.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 1:38 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s carried some pretty crappy teams into the 2nd round of the playoffs. Now that he’s getting help, the Rangers look like a pretty legit team in the east.

Point being, a goalie can at least carry a team through a round or two, or as you put it, steal a series. I don’t really think many wingers can do the same thing. Duchene can’t, at this point in his career anyway.

No soup for you!

by creamy on Dec 2, 2011 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

•Bang bang bangity bang. I said a bang bang bangity bang. The Blues better win against the team of this crazy gang. [Mile High Hockey]

We’re a crazy gang. I do like that blog though. I find I have absolutely 0 animosotiy towards the Blues and hope they do well, just not today.

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by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 7:48 AM MST reply actions  

I still think the Blues have the best 3rd jerseys in the league

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 7:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Their fans are generally pretty good folks too.

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by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 7:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed. I live in the St. Louis area and I try to go to a couple games a year, particularly when the Avs are in town. I always get a few friendly jeers and comments thrown my way accompanied with a smile and a laugh. Although they have tried to get the vendors to charge me double…

by chedrz on Dec 2, 2011 9:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Although they have tried to get the vendors to charge me double…

They’re just looking our for you. As an Avs fan you need to get the complete KSE Pepsi Center dining experience. That includes ridiculous prices.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Hmm. I think I agree. I do like the Kings’.

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by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 7:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Definitely a great jersey. If I actually said which 3rd I like the best I’d have to spend the rest of the day flogging myself in penance.

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by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 8:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Go ahead, a good flogging might help

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 8:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Blueberries?

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 8:09 AM MST up reply actions  

If you say the Dead Things, you have to hand in your MHH membership.

"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin

by Nemesis44UK on Dec 2, 2011 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

For the love of Pete, I am not a fucking idiot.

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by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 8:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Pete disagrees

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 8:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Fixed

For the love of Pete, I am not a fucking idiot DDC.

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by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 8:58 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Better

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 9:01 AM MST up reply actions  

Do they have a third jersey

by avalanchejef on Dec 2, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions  

the one Bertuzzi should be wearing

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

like it, very springtime and loose and cool.

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Las Vegas Wranglers

wore these for “Rod Blagojevich prison uniform night” back in 2009.

The other team (Bakersfield Condors) wore bright orange correction officer uniforms and the officials wore blue “police” jerseys

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Dec 2, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

<3 CHL hockey

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by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Rod gets sentenced to wear one of those next week!

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

ECHL actually….

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Dec 2, 2011 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Oooops. How silly of me not to realize that the Las Vegas Wranglers in Nevada weren’t in the East Coast Hockey League.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

What about Your Colorado Eagles? “ECHL” is now just a bunch of letters.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Alaska Aces, Bakersfield Condors (California)…..there are a lot of western teams now in the ECHL.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Dec 2, 2011 5:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I like the Kings’ last season (the Purple’s) this season is a whole lotta meh.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

I was referring to the purple.

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by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 8:36 AM MST up reply actions  

They dropped that as their 3rds *their current ones are either their all-blacks, or the black with a touch of purple. Real creative).

The Wild, as much as I despise them, have great 3rds

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 11:21 AM MST up reply actions  

The Blues & their fans hate the Red Wings, therefore we are friends.

(Also, St Louis Gametime is one of my favorite team blogs)

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

They are quite a funny bunch. My favorite 3 SB blogs are this, SL Gametime and Second City hockey. All sarcastic SOB’s like us

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 8:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed on all three.

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by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 8:37 AM MST up reply actions  

How is that not green?

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by Nemesis44UK on Dec 2, 2011 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I think I would like Nucks Misconduct more if they didn’t have the tinfoil “refs are out to get us” mantra every playoff season

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

But but but Mike Gillis said 74% of the penalties taken 34% of the time that Chicago is ahead are called against the Hawks.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

I think the writers there don’t do that. There’s some commentors there that do, but it’s pretty mild there, IMO. No worse than anywhere else

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Gladly fixed. Kid is the definition of Team Captain.

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by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 8:54 AM MST up reply actions  

What no Suave?

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 8:32 AM MST reply actions  

(And great job. As others know, I love seeing analysis like this one and Unmit Disaster’s a few weeks ago)

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 8:33 AM MST up reply actions  

You like it because you don’t have to do it.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Well there’s that. Analysis is really interesting, but it is very time consuming.

But I like looking at others’ analysis too. It’s good to get other people’s thought processes and be able to see their thoughts and how they analyze. I am able to learn from it and incorporate it into my own, and I find it interesting.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 8:36 AM MST up reply actions  

honestly, I thought the numbers would be different

I am the most humble blogger of all time

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 2, 2011 8:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Admit it, you are a borg!

Resistance is futile

"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin

by Nemesis44UK on Dec 2, 2011 8:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Sacco's last game?

Listened to a couple of hockey podcasts from ESPN and the CBC that seemed to indicate Coach Sacco’s days are numbered in single digits, so I was hoping maybe we could get a chatty guy like Boudreau, but no, he goes to Anaheim. By the way, it would be nice if the "sports radio stations’ in this town (Denver) occasionally talked about hockey.

If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad....

by lefseeter on Dec 2, 2011 8:36 AM MST reply actions  

We'll see

By the way: I bet the Avs turn around, Sacco firing or no. Check out Cam Cameron’s latest at Nucks misconduct (warning, analysis)

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 8:38 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m confused. Please explain to me how this means the Avs will not suck.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 8:51 AM MST up reply actions  

avs ES tied Fenwick is currently 7th. Their pts is 12th (I think). ES Fenwick is a better predictor than points at the end of Nov, because it’s a better representation of how the team is playing (i.e. it is less dependent on variations in random chance)

That said, r^2 is only 35 so it’s not flawless by any stretch., And there’s a lot of background data I think he doesn’t present here, because as presented it’s a sample size of 1…

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 9:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Wow umm yeah you lost me there I will just take your word for it

by Freakoffaleash on Dec 2, 2011 9:39 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Think of it this way:

At the 7day mark of the Tour de France the top 10 are likely going to change a lot because some good riders have gotten into crashes, or ate a bad batch of Bouillabais or haven’t hit their strengths or their teammates are doing their thing (I don’t know enough of team cycling to know what factors of random chance play into it). By the end of the race though the better cyclists will be leading.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 9:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Tour de France? Is that like the french leg of Old Chicago’s beer tour?

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 10:19 AM MST up reply actions  

The French have beer?

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by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 10:54 AM MST up reply actions  

kronenburg, tastes like schaefer to me

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 11:01 AM MST up reply actions  

But Jibble, dont’ you think the Avs have had a lot going for them so far? They’ve been very healthy and are burning through home games. Won’t the inevitable change also have to be accounted for? Also, we’re running out of Eastern teams to play.

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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

yeah some, I think the bad luck far outweighs the good luck so far. It is frustrating that they’ve had this bad spell while injured.

That said, opposing goaltenders save% is currently Hasek-ian in his prime against the Avs. I have a hard time believing the Avs will play the equivalent of Hasek’s prime every night for the rest of the season.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

And I have a really hard time believing the avs players are so awful that they make the opposing NHL goalie look better than Hasek in his prime.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions  

What have you been watching in 2011 then?

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

It may not be the players.

In ‘09-’10 the Avs had an unsustainably high shooting percentage because they relied on fast break hockey to get shots/goals. Lotsa luck!

This year, they’re getting the crap trapped out of them, and defenses are collapsing on the net. Now the Avs shooting percentage is unsustainably low. Lotsa bad luck.

Many of the same players, drastically different results. I think it’s more a factor of how other teams are playing the Avs than how lucky/unlucky they have been.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

No team in years, even really really really bad ones. Even ones with Tyler Arnason as 1st line center, has had an opposing save% that high. It’s completely unsustainable

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

What if we’re saving all our goals for the stretch run and into the playoffs where we win playoff rounds by 10+ goal differentials?

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I detect a small flaw in this plan.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Thats pretty much what happened in my NHL 2011 season. Worked like a charm. Joey Hishon came up and scored like 50-hundred goals. It was pretty sweet.

Small defencemen? What small defencemen?

by ljp78 on Dec 2, 2011 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

The problem with luck is you cant’ save it for when it’s most useful…The Avs will, most likely, regress to the mean. They may do it by losing 3-2 games and winning the occasional 7-1 stompings… although that’s unlikely too.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 12:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I hear what you’re saying…but you’re wrong.

This is the plan. I have it on good authority it will work.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 12:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I have a hard time believing the Avs will play the equivalent of Hasek’s prime every night for the rest of the season.

There are, at minimum, 29 opposing backup keepers in the NHL. I believe that your premise is flawed.

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2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions  

especially since CBJ and PHO both have 2

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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Mike Smith 12-5-3 2.08 GAA .936 SV%

Wish we had two backups.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah

and look at the rest of his career. At what point do we start saying “Okay, it isn’t the goalies. It’s the system being run in Phoenix.”

Do people forget Bryzgalov was acquired on WAIVERS? As in, the Ducks basically just said “Here, NHL. Take him”. Mike Smith has been a backup forever because when given a chance to start he hasn’t done well.

Do you really think Mike Smith has suddenly taken a colossal leap in ability?

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 1:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Mike smith wasn’t bad in Dallas. He’s playing well over his head right now, but I think his time in Tampa was the aberration, especially with his concussion issues there.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

He's never been bad

But come on. Look at those numbers. Mike Smith?? That was my entire point. MIKE SMITH???

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

he’s well over his head right now, another player poised for a final 3/4 crash.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 1:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m just a caveman. I don’t know your modern formulas for what is good and bad and who will regress and who will improve and why the current standings and stats are all a mirage.

But what I do know is that when a man slips and falls on a sidewalk in front of a public library, then he is entitled to no less than two million in compensatory damages, and two million in punitive damages.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 2:11 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m just a caveman. I don’t know your modern formulas for what is good and bad and who will regress and who will improve and why the current standings and stats are all a mirage.

But what I do know is that when a man slips and falls on a sidewalk in front of a public library, then he is entitled to no less than two million in compensatory damages, and two million in punitive damages.

This is why it’s a crying shame that Congress is full of lawyers and not scientists.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 2:13 PM MST up reply actions  

The cream rises to the top?

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Damn straight.

No soup for you!

by creamy on Dec 2, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Does creamy rise to the top like cream?

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

lots of random chance: flats, unavoidable crashes, bonking, but generally the best riders make their own luck and will finish near the top. This year I think Contador was the strongest again but bad luck in an early crash knocked him off the podium

by Skijumper on Dec 2, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions  

You lost them, Jibs. Just point them back to PDO, where only ROB and Square Peg are above 1,000.

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I love that square peg is doing well…

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't want Sacco to go

If they are only going to replace him from within. You can replace Kermit the Frog with Miss Piggy, but they are still both muppets.

"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin

by Nemesis44UK on Dec 2, 2011 8:50 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

exactly

I am the most humble blogger of all time

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 2, 2011 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

But Miss Piggy has heels to stab your eyes out. She is a no nonsense coach…Kermit is too much a players coach

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 8:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Miss Piggy is bat shit. Let’s roll with Animal.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 8:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Animal with Miss Piggy as an assistant…Beaker runs the defense

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 8:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Don’t hire the Swedish Chef though…he’s like Stewie (allegedly), always borking something

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 9:01 AM MST up reply actions  

Can we replace Sherman with the two old guys up in the balcony? At least they have a comment for the public once in a while and they aren’t afraid to call it as they see it.

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 9:06 AM MST up reply actions  

There ya go

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 9:09 AM MST up reply actions  

I thought that was Don Cherry and Mike Milbury.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

No we replace altiboobs with them sherm gets replaced by gonzo cuz gonzo’s always got a scheme

by Freakoffaleash on Dec 2, 2011 9:36 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

That would make for an awesome game expercience, to have those two calling it instead of the altiboobs.

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Gonzo would have a line of nothing but chickens.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

but the Chef is such an Avs fan… Bourque Bourque Bourque!!!!

by jd21 on Dec 2, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Is Patrick Roy considered from within?

by Pinchy The Lobster on Dec 2, 2011 9:58 AM MST up reply actions  

Does jibble like statistics?

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 10:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Patrick Roy is about as real as a unicorn. oh wait

I am the most humble blogger of all time

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Do straight guys like boobs?

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 10:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Mmmmm, boobs

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd prefer not to change also, but...

The thing that stuck with me from Melrose’s ESPN hockey today comments was that when the coach has been changed the players KNOW it is not the coach that is the problem anymore if they can’t win, its them.
This may seem blindingly intuitive, but it is a start when diagnosing what is wrong with a team. It may not be the coach. Personally I hope that it is because it is easier to fix.

If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad....

by lefseeter on Dec 2, 2011 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

I think we would all agree no matter who the coach is they are not going to win the cup this year or likely make the playoffs possibly. I think the point is that Sacco has been tuned out and they need a fresh voice. It’s the reason carlyle was canned. Hitchcock goes to St Louis and has went 10-1-2 I believe which is unreal vs where they were before he took over. So, to me, a good coach makes a big difference. Plus, with the Avs they have a young team and they need a coach who can instill confidence, make them play hard (and smart) every night and help them improve. I also think Sacco is a little weak on his personnel decisions. I went to the NJ game and having Jones on the top 6 and 2 good lines made ALL the difference and I think you’ll see that continue. How could he leave winnik on that line for so long and not try Jones there when they could not score hardly any goals. I like winnik but now he’s back on 3rd line where a role player like him belongs.

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 10:18 AM MST up reply actions  

The Winnik thing’s been explained a million times, guess you didn’t want to hear it.

Nothing’s black and white, there are always a few ways personnel decisions can go.

Having Jones in the top 6 had approximately 0.0% affect on the win against NJ.

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

±.001

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

I’ve heard many reasons, what was the most likely reason? I disagree, Jones make the 2nd line a lot better imo and he didn’t score but i was at the game and he played well I thought on that line.

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 1:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Jones and his linemates had 0 SOG. They had a neg Corsi and Fenwick that game. Out of every Avs player you could have singled out for having any sort of positive affect in that game (and there were many), Jones would probably be dead last. Seriously. I understand about Duchene’s assist and Stastny’s ass blocking Brodeur. Jones did nothing. And that’s the 1st line, by the way, not the 2nd. Sorry, any line that has both Stastny and Duchene on it has to be considered the 1st.

Winnik – that line wasn’t expected to be top 6 when the season began…coaches wanted to give Lindstrom/Kobasew a chance in the top 6…line was the only one that wasn’t dysfunctional, coaches were reluctant to break it up…Duchene’s move to wing wasn’t decided for good until a few weeks ago…

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I understand about Duchene’s assist and Stastny’s ass blocking Brodeur

By the way, that was 4v4, Jones wasn’t even on the ice.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

thyat surprises me b/c he seems to be involved and he seemed to be pretty good on the forecheck.

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, if anybody knows about the local Denver hockey scene it’s ESPN and the CBC.

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

By the way, it would be nice if the "sports radio stations’ in this town (Denver) occasionally talked about hockey.

The only way that will happen is if Tim Tebow attends a game. And considering he’s from Florida, odds are he knows about as much about hockey as he does about spirals and one-night stands.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly! Or if Duchene goes to a Broncos game and wears a Tebow jersey, that could get a mention as well.

Twitter - MileHigh33

by BrianD on Dec 2, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe they attend a Country Music copncert together.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

-“Tonight Tebow went to the Shania Twain concert at the Pepsi Center. He went with some one we heard was another professional athlete here in Denver, but he was overshadowed by Tebow’s greatness…”

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Dec 2, 2011 2:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Tebow does not know about one night stands.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I did not know that.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

He is a man of honesty. And integrity.

He goes to sleep after drinking a warm glass of milk and saying his prayers.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

So I must therefor conclude that he has no knowledge of hockey. Happy! Happy!

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Great job on the preview DDC, and gotta give props to anyone who mentions the great state of Iowa in a post. In my mind that bumps up your end of the year grade by one notch just for that.

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 9:13 AM MST reply actions  

We’ll see.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 9:24 AM MST up reply actions  

B++?

Barring surgery, an A- is out of the question.

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2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 12:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Couple things about your stats I would like to know of those goalies what was difference in roles (starting, backup, split) when they were with Avs vs Other teams this to me would make a difference as a backup you get the more sheltered games and and as a starter you are generally the one that faces top end teams. While good I think data needs to be compared apples to apples.

As far as goalie coach goes as it was only one guy as meaning very small sample size for full time I just don’t see justifying using those numbers.

Good read though DDC

by Freakoffaleash on Dec 2, 2011 9:23 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah I worry about different goaltenders influencing the stats on coaching.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Dec 2, 2011 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

The Blues are Hot

And tough to score against. However, now that the Avalanche is roaring down the mountain, can anything really stop it? No.

Avs 5 – Blues 0

The Colorado Avalanche: 2012 Cup Champions Until They Ain't!

by burgundyRainbow on Dec 2, 2011 9:30 AM MST reply actions  

I don’t mind the sun sometimes
The images it shows
I can taste you on my lips and
Smell you in my clothes

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 10:33 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Rare Bhole Surfers reference. I’ve always thought they should play the “Pouring like an Avalanche coming down a mountain” part of that song during Av games. But that would require their production department to have a pulse. We know that ain’t happening.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

Greatest band name of all time… The Butthole Surfers.

by stpn47 on Dec 2, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Everybody loves the sunshine, sunshine
Everybody loves the sunshine, sunshine
Folk’s get down in the sunshine, sunshine
Folk’s get brown in the sunshine

Just bee’s and thangs and flowers
Just bee’s and thangs and flowers
Just bee’s and thangs and flowers
Just bee’s and thangs and flowers

My life, my life, my life, my life
In the sunshine…

Small defencemen? What small defencemen?

by ljp78 on Dec 2, 2011 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Nice!

Greetings from Sweden. Just want to say that I love your stats-posts :D Keep up the good work, best Avalanche blog out there!

by bobboviking on Dec 2, 2011 9:31 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

Welcome!

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 9:33 AM MST up reply actions  

I love Swedish Vikings!

I am the most humble blogger of all time

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 2, 2011 9:34 AM MST up reply actions  

I love swedish meatballs

and models.

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by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

There is nothing wrong with that.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Dec 2, 2011 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

and trained dragons!

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 10:03 AM MST up reply actions  

+1

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by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 12:51 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah, I know, but he’s been skating pretty hard lately so was wondering if he may be getting close to a return?

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 9:53 AM MST up reply actions  

who knows. I think he’s at Crosby status now, playing himself back to gameshape before he comes back again

Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results

by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Except without the ridiculous point totals in his first 5 games back…the ones that exeed over half the Avs roster in 25 games

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Except without the ridiculous point totals in his first 5 games back…the ones that exeed over half the Avs NHL’s rosters in 25 games

fixed. its amazing honestly

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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

This is true

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Shatty and the trade

I liked Shatty and all but, even before Elliott got here, am I wrong in thinking that we didn’t exactly miss his offense from the blueline? We have been getting plenty of points from there, and our PP has been very good. As opposed to, say, the Blues PP, which has been really bad…with Shatty as the QB. Shatty’s ES/PP point total is one of the weirder things I’ve seen – the PP specialist has been killing it at ES but not on the PP.

Anyway, I think Erik Johnson is the key to whether or not this deal is a win or not. I think Sherm sold high on Stewart – nice job, Sherm. Should be interesting to see the ex Avs tonight.

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 10:48 AM MST reply actions  

the DP had a little blurb about Shatty, think he’s had like 31 pts in 50 games since trade and is +16. He also has been hot lately, think they said 2nd highest scoring d-man in last 10 games or something like that. They defintiely figured on Elliot and/or Barrie filling that gap. I think the key will be if seimens develops into a good nhl player. EJ may be better with a guy like Elliot when he comes back so we will see. He has to play defense first though.

by the cool breeze on Dec 2, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

I think that’s a valid point that no one seems to bring up…

The Avs god a pretty DAMN good prospect in Seimens. Him plus Johnson plus Silent Jay are what make this team… but people are always going to compare the two best players of the trade. Those being Stewart and Johnson for now.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Pretty DAMN good prospect (who wasn’t even invited to try out for team Canada).

No soup for you!

by creamy on Dec 2, 2011 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Here is my take on the trade, comparing guys who play the same position. I am not saying Shatty is better than Johnson nor McClement is better than Stewie I am saying how they have done compared to expectations which maybe why people have there opinions on the trade.

Shatty>expectations>Johnson
McClement>expectations>Stewie

Both teams got good prospects out of the deal

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Which could be due more to age, politics, and Hockey Canada’s hardon for flair than his ability as a shut down guy.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Dec 2, 2011 6:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Sherm definitely sold high on Stewie. No question there.

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by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 10:56 AM MST up reply actions  

St. Louis is probably thinking the same about Johnson. I wonder if they are justifying Stewie’s slow start the same way we are justifying Johnson’s inconsistencies.

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by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Good point. Selling highest on Johnson would have been pre – golf cart incident though. They probably could’ve nabbed more than Stewie at that point.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

We’re getting lots of points from the blueline because every team we play is collapsing on the net. The points are wide open.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

I think Shatty is good, I like him (I think he’s a fantastic passer), but with Elliott and Barrie, Sherm pretty much had the leeway to trade him away. Chances are that one of those two will replace Shatty (or come close to it) in the long run.

And he definitely sold high on Stewart.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 11:35 AM MST up reply actions  

But I think Sherman sold high on Stewart.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 11:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Shatty has nothing on Elliott's shot...

Shatty is too one dimensional, he’s looking to pass first, whereas with Elliott he’ll beat you from anywhere on the ice, either with a sweet stretch pass, a bomb from the point, or a quick wrister from the slot.

by Mapletreemarty on Dec 2, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I forgot to mention he’s got some nice puck handling skills, and walking that blue line too.

by Mapletreemarty on Dec 2, 2011 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Listen

People seem to think what Shattenkirk did well is some common trait. Elliott is a better shooter than Shattenkirk (thanks to his wrister) but his passing is nowhere near the same level. Shatty has ridiculously good on-ice vision and almost never looks down at the puck. Head up all the time, surveying the ice and he rarely makes bad passes. His one skill is elite. They’re both going to be very good but you can’t discount Shattenkirk’s passing.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 2:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Shatty was the best passer on the Avs when he was traded, better than Stastny. He’s ridiculously good.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 2:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Anybody know how Kirk’s doing with D this year though? The kid will likely put up points (50 not out of the question) if given the ice time, but so could Liles and I don’t think any one here thinks his leaving has hurt the club at all.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 2:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Shields up, but he was +9 last I heard.

St. Louis sure isn’t complaining.

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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 2:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I hope he does great, but his +9 could be a result of Elliott’s absurd play.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

More power to the shields!

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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 4:52 PM MST up reply actions  

We'll probably need at least 10 goals to win tonight...

taking into account hat tricks from Stewart, Shattenkirk, and Elliott. Hopefully they don’t call up Hensick before the game.

by stpn47 on Dec 2, 2011 10:53 AM MST reply actions  

Halak is in and not Elliot

by avalanchejef on Dec 2, 2011 11:01 AM MST up reply actions  

Nope. EJ is out tonight.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

So at least six goals?

Small defencemen? What small defencemen?

by ljp78 on Dec 2, 2011 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe Waldo didn’t care for “building from within?”

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

where’s Waldo?

I am the most humble blogger of all time

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 2, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Anywhere but Enos’s Malibu mansion, evidently. How dare he try to kill himself with one of Enos’s guns! Those guns, and the ammo, aren’t free, you know.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Ouch

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Good thing they cancelled the promotional “free noose night” they were planning for an Av game this season.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 12:29 PM MST up reply actions  

They’re just giving season ticket holders enough rope with which to hang themselves.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 12:54 PM MST up reply actions  

this gets a rec

I am the most humble blogger of all time

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 2, 2011 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Hot damn, I sure missed your numbers, DDC.

Also, I think from now on, you should insert a small TM after any mention of “The Trade”.

When does the hurting stop?

by BraxtanFILM on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 AM MST reply actions  

almost did

I am the most humble blogger of all time

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 2, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

So did Enos just save about a half a mill? More money to lawyer up on restraining orders, I guess.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Wasn’t it a guaranteed contract? So he gets his money and goes home, and the Avs stay above the cap floor? Sounds like a win-win to me.

Small defencemen? What small defencemen?

by ljp78 on Dec 2, 2011 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I think because he requested to be released from it (to go to Sweden rather than Cleveland) the contract is cancelled.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Check. So…is Operation 48.3 still afloat? It must be, right?

Small defencemen? What small defencemen?

by ljp78 on Dec 2, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Eliott makes more than Lindstrom (I believe), so we’re actually fine on the cap floor side of things.

by stpn47 on Dec 2, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah I just checked capgeek. They haven’t taken off Lindstrom’s salary, but even w/o it it seems the Avs are still above the floor.
http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=12

Small defencemen? What small defencemen?

by ljp78 on Dec 2, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Here’s a question:

What’s realistically holding back Radar from being mentioned as a Selke nomination?

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:26 AM MST reply actions  

Reputation. Eastern media bias. The Avs’ GA. Probably in that order.

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

His new lack of PK time

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 2, 2011 11:36 AM MST up reply actions  

I may have missed it on the average PK time/game…but Datsyuk not killing a lot of penalties last year either. Nor was Toews (then again Kesler won it…but he wasn’t shutting anyone down during the regular season, that was reserved for the Malhotra line)

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m not saying he’s being robbed or anything… but I’m just coming from a “what would it take for him to do?”

I mean his takeaway numbers are damn good. His faceoff numbers are top 10. He’s starting to pick up a lot more points.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Reputation is the big thing. He needs Roenick, Milbury or Jones to start mentioning his name before others will follow in line. And since those three still have combined to watch one Avs game this season, it’s not too likely.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

They each watched a second period.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

32 takeaways, first in the league among players who aren’t Pavel Datsyuk.
10 giveaways, the least in the league among players named Ryan O’Reilly or Pavel Datsyuk.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Dec 2, 2011 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

EJ is out tonight.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:28 AM MST reply actions  

That is too bad. Johnson does get up for the Blues.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

I really am anxious to see what kind of mayhem him and Elliott would create on the PP

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Johnson does get up for the Blues

I see what you did there.

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Go Avs…. first game I get to watch in a week, dont fucking let me down!

Go Avs! Please?

by avsfanatic33 on Dec 2, 2011 11:44 AM MST reply actions  

Britney Spears + Pepsi Max = Another win?

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Dec 2, 2011 11:45 AM MST reply actions  

Britney turned 30 today…that has to count for something. Right?

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

You think she is still a virgin?

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 12:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Despite her children, she probably still claims that

Aebischer. Nope. Salo? Ha! Sauve? Nah. Theodore. Meh. Kolesnik? Hey bud, nice shootout against the Devils, but no. Budaj? You kidding? Anderson, close, but no cigar. Elliott? GET THE TANK!!! Varlamov and Giguere? To the playoffs...AND BEYOND!!

by chiavsfan on Dec 2, 2011 2:15 PM MST up reply actions  

I wonder what her kids are going to be like?

Louisiana white trash egg + Federline sperm = ???!

No soup for you!

by creamy on Dec 2, 2011 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

This, plus the fact that everybody knows that you’re not wearing any pants = TMI.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Shift-A'd like a bowss

Cool to see a statpreview like this though. I know it’s time consuming but…. moar?

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Dec 2, 2011 11:51 AM MST reply actions  

Erik Johnson has been on the IR with a strained plus minus concussion

Fixed. Nice preview. Thanks!

by Andy_ on Dec 2, 2011 12:37 PM MST reply actions  

Goalie Tonight ??

Anyword on if Giguere spells Varlymov tonite ?

by Brtman10 on Dec 2, 2011 1:03 PM MST reply actions  

Varly. Though I think it should be Giggy tonight

Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results

by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 1:04 PM MST up reply actions  

This is something I do disagree with Sacco on. It sure doesn’t seem like he rests the number one goalie often enough (like sometimes never, even on back-to-backers).

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I mean, I guess STL is hot…. but that means you really have to play Giggy against detroit

Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results

by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 1:09 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m ok with Giggy vs. Detroit. He’s a bigger goalie can handle Holmstrom on his jock.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Dec 2, 2011 1:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I’d like to see Varly catch a breather tonite and go with gigs against a st louis team that doesnt throw alot of rubber at the net.. Then Varley fresh for the wings. Dont think we need Varly tonite. Is Varly solid..was he seen at skate this morning ?

by Brtman10 on Dec 2, 2011 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

You’re not watching the game, are you? Cool. Then butt out of the goalie chat and let Coach Joe get on with it.

Thanks,
Everyone Who Wants the Avs to Keep Winning

by DiD on Dec 2, 2011 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

IM NOT WATCHING OK!!! I HAVE TO GET MY AVS NOW SO SUCK IT UP

Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results

by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Good, I won’t have to have you killed then.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Moser tweeted that it’s Varly.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Speaking of promotions

Tonight is dozen egg night at the Can.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 1:09 PM MST reply actions  

I agree with you..Would like to see Varly catch a breather tonite and go with gigs against a st louis team that doesnt throw alot of rubber at the net..Dont think we need Varly tonite. Is Varly solid..was he seen at skate this morning ?

by Brtman10 on Dec 2, 2011 1:09 PM MST reply actions  

Too bad Perron isnt playing tonight. One of my favorites out there, happy to see him coming back soon

Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results

by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 2, 2011 1:25 PM MST reply actions  

I’m happy to see him coming back but pretty f’ing glad it’s not tonight.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m gonna be there tonight. Haven’t seen a win live since last December against the Habs. (trying to pull an altiboob and jinx my bad luck). Haven’t seen Stewart live since the game he broke his hand (that was a great game to be at, 7-4 against the Adjectives). Still love Shatty, but Elliott is gonna show him who’s boss.

GO AVS!

THE COLORADO AVALANCHE HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP. RAYMOND BOURQUE: A DREAM COME TRUE!

by Pyotr09AVS! on Dec 2, 2011 1:48 PM MST reply actions  

Gah, in two weeks I’magonnabeinDenver!!! :D

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 2, 2011 1:50 PM MST reply actions  

Hopefully it doesn’t snow 16 inches and you have to land in Montana or Wyoming instead.

by cush52 on Dec 2, 2011 1:54 PM MST up reply actions  

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 2:01 PM MST up reply actions  

No, Bob.

It’s eeeeeeeee etc.

You’re doing it wrong. Again.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Dec 2, 2011 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

No.

Sandie’s excited.

Bob’s terrified.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 2:25 PM MST up reply actions  

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 2:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Nor is Bob.

I, for one, am over the moon that you’re coming.

Bob is evil.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 2:29 PM MST up reply actions  

HAHAHA

Over the moon, eh?

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 2, 2011 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I am evil. But that’s not important right now. I thought "a"s were better than "e"s, so was merely trying to one-up AJ and Sandie.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

lol'd

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s all about the A worn with pride.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 2, 2011 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Adam Carolla on the occupy movement. A)Funny B)Insightful C) extremely nsfw.

http://www.wwtdd.com/2011/12/adam-carolla-destroys-occupy-not-literally/

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 1:51 PM MST reply actions  

Per EJ Hradek
#ChoppingBlock

Three coaches already have been axed this week, making it four in the NHL this season, 10 since the end of the 2010-11 regular season, and 11 in the past 13 months.

There could be more coaching changes coming, perhaps within the next seven days. And with a Cup-winner like Randy Carlyle now available, you’d have to think some GMs that have been contemplating a coaching change now are considering pulling the trigger.

The focus of the speculation has shifted to Colorado’s Joe Sacco, Calgary’s Brent Sutter, Columbus’ Scott Arniel and the Islanders’ Jack Capuano.

THE COLORADO AVALANCHE HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP. RAYMOND BOURQUE: A DREAM COME TRUE!

by Pyotr09AVS! on Dec 2, 2011 1:53 PM MST reply actions  

Wow, it’s almost like he took 20 seconds to look at the standings and puked out that. Not that he’s wrong, it’s just lazy.

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 2:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Hradek is obnoxious

THE COLORADO AVALANCHE HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP. RAYMOND BOURQUE: A DREAM COME TRUE!

by Pyotr09AVS! on Dec 2, 2011 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Cupcakes are the answer.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Dec 2, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I find that cupcakes tend to make me hard.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 2:25 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

Well, I do have two cupcakes…

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 2, 2011 2:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Back off lady!

I’m a married man!

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Not for you

For Winnik, Silly.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 2, 2011 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

That clinking sound?

It’s your chain being yanked.

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

badumpbump

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Dec 2, 2011 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

and rec’d

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Dec 2, 2011 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

"SHE'S ON FIRE"

Keep making hilarious jokes, Sandie, and you’ll draw out a BOOMSHAKALAKA

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Dec 2, 2011 2:39 PM MST up reply actions  

No he’s startting something new, I’m now Digated Aster. Pretty cool eh?

Spoon!!!!!!!!

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 2, 2011 10:03 PM MST up reply actions  

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