Blues at Avalanche Recap: Avs Beat Blues 3-2 Behind 37 Saves By Giguere
by Derek B on Dec 21, 2011 10:15 PM MST
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PrintWith several Avs players making their return to the Pepsi Center again tonight, the stage was set for them to dominate the burgundy and blue. Brian Elliott was definitely primed to have a big game against his former club, coming into the game with an impressive 13-2 record, 1.43 GAA, and .958 save percentage.
The Avalanche wasted no time in getting on the board though as Matt Hunwick sent a low, hard, shot on net that Paul Stastny deflected toward the net. Fortunately it went in off of a St. Louis defenseman's skate. Stefan Elliott is continuing his stellar play as he earned the secondary assist on the play.
The Avalanche appeared ready to "start the game on time" as Avs Head Coach Joe Sacco likes to say, as the Avs scored less than a minute and a half later. Brian Elliott slightly mishandled the dump in and Cody McLeod was right there to bury it for a 2-0 lead just over 5 minutes into the game.
WIth the Blues coming in on a 2 on 1, Daniel Winnik was forced to take a hooking penalty on Patrik Burgland. It was one of those penalties most would say you have to take to prevent a quality scoring chance. Just before the penalty expired, Ryan O'Byrne was called for slashing to give the Blues a short 2 man advantage. The Avs managed to not only kill off both penalties, but got a pretty good scoring opportunity as Daniel Winnik was coming out of the box he got the puck to TJ Galiardi who had a mini-breakaway but sent the puck just wide.
My vote for least called penalty in the NHL has to be for violating rule 53 which states, "A player shall not throw a stick or any other object in any zone. Matt Duchene learned this the hard way as he was given a 2 minute minor for throwing the stick. Fortunately the Avs PK stepped up big again and killed the penalty and went 3 for 3 in the first period.
Whatever the Avs coaches are saying to the Avs to get them ready to go right when the puck drops is working. Daniel Winnik had a near perfect deflection towards the Blues net, but came up empty as it clanked harmlessly off of the post.
Just a few minutes later the Blues were on a 2 on 1 when Shane O'Brien committed one of the bigger sins a defenseman can commit. Giguere was ready and square to David Backes, until O'Brien decided to "help" out Jiggy by attempting to block the shot, all he did though was tip the puck into his own net. If you want to know how goalies feel when defensemen decide to help them out, just go back and watch Jean-Sebastian Giguere's reaction after the goal went in.
As I eluded to in the beginning of this recap, there were several former Avs in uniform tonight for the Blues, one of them is named Chris Stewart. Unfortunately there was a Chris "GD" Stewart sighting as he tied the game up at 2 goals apiece.
With just over 8 minutes to play in the second period, another former Avs player Kevin Shattenkirk was called for hooking Shane O'Brien. Unfortunately the Avs weren't able to cash in on the PP opportunity, but did seem to get some momentum back by getting a few quality scoring chances.
Just after the penalty was ended, the Avs were on coming in on a rush were Jay McClement sent a centering pass that hit a Blues defenseman. As he was sliding on his stomach, he slid into the net which appeared to be coming off of it's mooring just prior to the puck going in. However after a lengthy review it was determined the puck crossed the line prior to the St. Louis player dislodged the net. It was Jay McClement's 6th goal of the season that put the Avs up 3-2.
The Avs were heading into the 3rd period with carry over penalty time from the second period. Unfortunately the Avs were not able to cash in on their chance. Then just as the Blues killed off that penalty, Gabriel Landeskog was whistled for tripping Scott Nichol. Fortunately the Blues really didn't get any quality scoring chances on the power play.
The rest of the 3rd period was played with a lot of good chances for both teams. However, as he has done so many times this season, Jiggy gave the team a chance to win and that's exactly what they did.
MHH Avalanche 3 Stars of the Night
- 1 Jean-Sebastien Giguere, No need for an explanation here, simply gives his team a chance to win every night he is in between the pipes.
- 2 Jay McClement, Scored the GWG.
- 3 Cody McLeod, Any time the Highlander scores a goal he will ALWAYS be one of my stars of the game.
- 1 Landeskog-O'Reilly-Hejduk
- 2 Duchene-Stastny-Winnik
- 3 Van der Gulik-McClement-Galiardi
- 4 McLeod-Malone-Porter
- 1 Johnson-O'Brien
- 2 Hejda-O'Byrne
- 3 Elliott-Hunwick
- 1 Brad Malone is playing really great right now and just narrowly missed getting his first NHL goal.
- 2 Jean-Sebastien GIguere's play right now is off the charts. I almost feel that signing him was this team's biggest off-season move.
- 3 The Avs set a new franchise record with their 7th straight home victory.
After getting man handled in San Jose, the Tampa Bay Lightning will be making their only visit to the Mile High City this year.
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No recap love for Galiardicus? Guy looks like its SJS Playoffs (i only hope it lasts longer than sjs playoffs….)
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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 21, 2011 10:19 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Gally’s back to be Really Annoying TJ. Jackman seemed to be jawing with him a little bit.
I couldn’t care less how ugly and lucky that win was, I’ll take the 2 points every time. Scoreboard, that’s all.
we had plenty of pretty losses. due for some ugly wins
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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 21, 2011 10:23 PM MST up reply actions
If Highlander hadn’t scored a goal he definitely would’ve been my Third Star. And like was mentioned below, I really like to see the pesky part of his game coming out again. I really think that’s when he is at his best.
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They keep doing this and I’m going to need to change my picture. The sig stays the same.
Peter McNabb thinks I'm outstanding.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 21, 2011 10:19 PM MST reply actions
What’s Peter McNabb’s favorite animal? The recap didn’t cover it…
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
by amit916 on Dec 21, 2011 10:28 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
Lol!!
It’s a golden retriever. How could I have forgotten that! ;-)
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I heard that but then I instantly realized it was fluff and ignored it, what was the context? Why would someone bring it up? note: other than he likes to babble.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 21, 2011 10:30 PM MST up reply actions
One of the "Ask The Analyst" questions
asked him what his favorite animal was. And since it was such an off the wall question, Kyle Keffe read it on the air.
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I was guessing that Pinchy sent the question. It was bizarre, mentioning a chicken, a “moocat” (cross between a moose and a cat) and a couple of other mythical beasts. I laughed at the question, and it showed someone at Altitude has a sense of humor that it got on the air.
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by Busted Twigg on Dec 22, 2011 9:47 AM MST up reply actions
moooochicken!
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by MalachiConstant on Dec 22, 2011 7:01 AM MST up reply actions
Question: I mostly heard the game, and I didn’t hear Chris “Gosh Darn” Stewart at all. Invisible?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 21, 2011 10:31 PM MST reply actions
Other than when he scored a goal…
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Dec 21, 2011 10:34 PM MST up reply actions
So you’re saying he played?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 22, 2011 12:03 AM MST up reply actions
He got a little love from the St. Louis commentators, mostly during the 2nd when he was getting in O’Brien’s face and then when he scored. Other than that, didn’t see much from him.
By getting in his face, you mean the part where he punched him in the face 3 times and didn’t even get a “by your leave” from the refs?
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by Mike @ MHH on Dec 22, 2011 7:18 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep, the same kind of play earlier this season that got O’Brien tossed in the box.
I'll keep this brief.
That was my first thought, too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 22, 2011 8:26 AM MST up reply actions
and interviewed by them during an intermission. he was so quiet they had to increase the volume on his mic
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 22, 2011 7:27 AM MST up reply actions
Question 2: Suburu, what is a hometown hero?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 21, 2011 10:32 PM MST reply actions
That was AWESOME!!
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Wouldn’t they hit head-to-head if Kronwall doesn’t jump? Kesler would have had a face full of helmet instead of a face full of back. Kronwall did him a favor. Either way I liked the hit.
Some more stuff on Kesler and his reaction to getting crushed by Kronwall. Nice knee on knee hit by Kesler after he got crushed. Classy move by a classy player.
He left his feet….again.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Dec 21, 2011 10:34 PM MST up reply actions
sick of it
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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 21, 2011 10:35 PM MST up reply actions
saw the same thing, That dude is a bitch. I am glad Stewie ran his ass into the boards earlier.
by avalanchejef on Dec 21, 2011 10:58 PM MST up reply actions
What a bitch.
Grr… this guy almost ALWAYS leaves his feet on hits and people love him for it.
Keep shuffling the lines, that will fix it.
by Tony Trujillo on Dec 21, 2011 11:07 PM MST up reply actions
Yet when someone else leaves their feet they're the lowest of low.
I doubt Shanny will ban him. Should he? Yes. This shit happens way too often with Kronwall.
Sig.
A high leaping hit from Kronwall?
Should be a penalty. Never is. Sick of seeing it.
Meanwhile, extraordinarily HARD AND CLEAN hitter Ryan Wilson benched with an unpenalized concussion
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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 21, 2011 10:35 PM MST up reply actions
I know he’s a dirty Nuck, but I kinda like Kessler. I’m glad he’s not hurt.
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He is not a Nuck, He is Team USA on loan to the dirty Nucks
by avalanchejef on Dec 21, 2011 11:01 PM MST up reply actions
With the way he moanes and bitches… he’s a Canuck through and through.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Agree. He’s dead to me, even when wearing the Stars and Stripes.
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I can’t do it – not yet. The image of him skating for our country is still too strong. But if he hurts an Avs player, it’s done. There’s only so much you can excuse from a Canuck, even if they are American.
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Disagree, there are enough douche canoes in this country without one of them wearing the colors in international competition and getting a free pass from me. I’m really intolerant of most people though, so I may be an outlier.
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by Mike @ MHH on Dec 22, 2011 8:43 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow… he actually knee’ed Zetterberg? After complaining like a bitch about Booth, his linemate getting knee’ed? What a bitch… I hope that fucker gets Kronwalled again.
Zetterberg’s all class, Kesler is a diving, moaning, bitching player, who apparently isn’t afraid of cheap and dirty tactics either…. I still remember him challenging a Hawks player, and then resorting to not actually fighting but pulling the hair and then holding on to the leg like some kind of UFC match. And then has the fucking gaul to make fun of said Chicago player in the interviews after the game.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
This.
I know the fact he’s American and not a complete and total douchebag is why I like him. He’s being corrupted by their whiny, diving ways though. The Avs should save him from that situation I think.
Hunwick for Kessler?
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But I thought we were trading him for Crosby.
Still, Yip for Kessler has a nice ring to it….
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Best part? Kessler getting up looking for Kronwall who wants no part of him. I hate both of these teams but I was hoping for a fight where kesler kicks his ass. Is Kronwall becoming Samulsson part 2?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 22, 2011 12:02 AM MST up reply actions
The rest of the 3rd period was played with a lot of good chances for both teams.
The Avs had chances? Other than Malone’s shot that went wide, the Avs didn’t get very far past the red line….even on the power play.
- A win is a win though.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
You not counting Hejduk’s empty net chance….LOL!
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regressing to the mean means we’ll win a couple of those now.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 22, 2011 12:03 AM MST up reply actions
freak line change?
what happened? video?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 21, 2011 10:54 PM MST up reply actions
nevermind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H4Vxc4VazE
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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 21, 2011 10:56 PM MST up reply actions
Few points
1) A win is a win.
2) Jiggy totally stole that game.
3) Dont like Hunwick and Elliot on the ice when the other team has big dudes like Stewart on the ice. I was shocked Sacco put them against Stewie, but hey what do I know.
4) Can we please outscore the opposition when they have an empty net for the season, I would like to see a 3:1 to 4:1 ratio or more but right now a 1.1:1 ratio would be nice.
5) The team is better with Malone and VDG. Yip is done with the Avs for a while when he gets healthy.
6) My 3 stars- 1) Jiggy, 2) Silent Jay 3) VDG (he get the nod over Malone since he is a new dad). VDG was on the shift that really changed things in the second. Everytime he was on the ice him and Silent Jay were carving up the Blue Jackets.
7) I think the team could be better but I thought they played a solid team game.
8) Thank you Brian Elliot for the win tonight.
9) The refs have got to call a penalty when the blues trips duchene at the blue line that leads to a 3-1 break in the last PP. That was huge and fortunate.
10) Can’t wait to see Wilson and Quincy get back.
11) Jackman is a bit of a dick.
I’d still give it to Malone. He just made so many smart plays throughout the game, even if it was a smart tie up and another small thing, every little thing makes a difference. I can’t wait for him to mature and develop, he’s gonna be a good 4th or 3rd line guy (hopefully 4th cuz I’d like to see Silent Jay stay).
by ProfessorOak on Dec 21, 2011 10:57 PM MST up reply actions
I really liked it when VDG-Silent Jay-Malone playu with each other. They were really effective
by avalanchejef on Dec 21, 2011 10:59 PM MST up reply actions
RE #3: When you’re an average coach you make 7 out of 10 decisions correctly, that was one of the 3.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 22, 2011 12:04 AM MST up reply actions
I have this really bad feeling that you are going to have to wait quite some time for Wilson.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 22, 2011 8:40 AM MST up reply actions
Me three, and that makes me super sad because he was moving up in the list of my favorites :( He was having an amazing season before that douchebag ruined it. Fuck Lapierre, and Fuck the Canucks.
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Wilson is out for the season.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 22, 2011 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
Based on my conversation with Moser, it was clear there’s little chance Wilson will be back.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 22, 2011 9:02 AM MST up reply actions
His composure when I asked about him was freaking scary
He just kinda sunk in on himself, eh?
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 22, 2011 9:03 AM MST up reply actions
well that really sucks
fuck Lapierre, the only bright side, looks like Elliott is here to stay
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 9:11 AM MST up reply actions
Don’t get me wrong, I love Elliott, but FUCK! Wilson was playing amazing hockey for us! I can’t believe that he’s out for at least the majority of the season and that the Canucks didn’t even get a small smack on the wrist for it. We didn’t even get a power play as payment for losing one of our top defensemen! This SUCKS!
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
McNab has the Ava-gnome again.
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McNab looked completely uncomfortable at being asked to sell products for the Avs’ store. Good for him. Completely tasteless, IMO.
On the other hand I did like the Dutchy camo-hat.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 22, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
I think the AvaGnome needs to become a running joke on the broadcasts. I’d move it around the set, have Haynes pop it into the shot when Sunshine is doing his intermission or post-game analysis.
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by Busted Twigg on Dec 22, 2011 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
It would be a better analyst/host than Julie.
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I forgot they already have that running joke. Maybe this one would be funny in a less tragic sense.
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by Busted Twigg on Dec 22, 2011 1:23 PM MST up reply actions
Selanne get’s the award for the best assist that should have never been (nor was meant to be) an assist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwgCbvgTZts&feature=related
Galiardi.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 21, 2011 11:43 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
this
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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 21, 2011 11:45 PM MST up reply actions
I follow him on twitter.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 22, 2011 12:06 AM MST up reply actions
He’s a part of my wolf pack.
I'll keep this brief.
by Dario on Dec 22, 2011 7:46 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
They don’t call it Bangkok for nothing…
Keep shuffling the lines, that will fix it.
by Tony Trujillo on Dec 22, 2011 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
10 Thoughts
1. 5 consecutive road wins to start the season, 7 consecutive home wins in the middle of the season (let’s make it 8 boys! New Avs record!), and only 4 points out of playoff contention right even with ROWs factored in. It’s not pretty right now, but the pieces are all there. If we can figure out how to win at home AND on the road at the same time and keep putting forth the effort we have been for the past two weeks, we might actually have a shot at the playoffs. Maybe. {knocks on wood}
2. I wonder how much of this team’s energy is from the fact that we have 3 callups trying to not go back to the minors. The work ethic of Elliott, VDG, and Malone has just been awesome. I think it may be rubbing off on the other guys. I like it!
3. Where do the injured forwards fit now? Our team is clicking much better with the callups than the regulars. Jones, Yip, Kobasew – have they lost their spot to the rookies?
4. Hunwick was actually kinda decent tonight. He basically set up our first goal. I’d still rather have Quincey on the ice, but with any luck, we’re just making Hunwick look good for a trade. I don’t think he fits on this team moving forward and his contract is up at the end of the year. Trade him now while we have the chance!
5. Haha Elliott. How’s that 1.43 GAA workin’ for ya tonight? My only sadness comes from the fact we’ll only see the Blues twice next year.
6. Our rookies just keep getting better every game. Landy was kinda quiet tonight, but so was his line. Our bottom 6 – including VDG and “Browncoat” – were some of our major offensive catalysts. JMac and Cody Mac have looked their best all year when playing with the call-ups, and Malone almost had that goal off the amazing pass by Gali. Good Elliott continues to do the coast-to-coast ‘you can’t touch me hahaha!’ move and is making things happen on the PP. I’ve been very pleased with the rooks. Too bad we don’t have Top 6 depth down there.
7. Real Gali, or Galiardicus as you are sometimes called, welcome back. We’ve missed you. Please stick around for a while, or better yet, never leave again. EVER!
8. Giggy is amazing. He’s a Conn Smythe winner, and even though he’s slowed down some since, you could see it tonight. He won us this game… and last game… and the game before that. If we can’t have Thomas or Roy mentoring Varly (although there are whispers that the latter may consider coming back to the Mile High City), I’m starting to think we found the absolute best 3rd choice. Maybe 4th due to Tretiak, but I digress. It will be interesting to see who Sacco starts Friday.
9. Speaking of Friday, I’ll be at that game – first in exactly a year. Last December 23rd game I watched, the Avs lost to the Adjectives 3-1 (Jones had our lone tally, Andy was in the net). Let’s hope this one goes better for the Burgundy and Blue Boys.
10. ROW – such a simple word. Such a big importance to this team’s standings. It seems as if we’ve paid our year-long penance to the hockey gods and they’re back to letting us win games now. Keep it up, boys. Let’s prove some critics wrong.
And just for good measure…. {knocks on wood again} Last thing this team needs is another jinx.
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If we can figure out how to win at home AND on the road at the same time and keep putting forth the effort we have been for the past two weeks, we might actually have a shot at the playoffs. Maybe. {knocks on wood}
Don’t you mean if Ted Nolan could figure it out?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 22, 2011 12:45 AM MST up reply actions
Yes, please!
Happy Christmas to me, Happy Christmas to me….
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I’m hoping it’s not their last.
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by Busted Twigg on Dec 22, 2011 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
McClement is an excellent 3rd line center. He has benefited from moving Radar up to second line, and Duchene to a wing. Jay is not a fourth liner, he’s got to get third line minutes at center. He’s similar to Stephane Yelle, who was one of 5 Avs to play in both cup finals. Roy, Sakic, Forsberg and Foote were the others. McClement is a helluva hockey player.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
And Jon Klemm.
He UFA’d to Chicago after the second Cup.
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Klemm is to be known from this day forth as SHAZAM.
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by Tony Trujillo on Dec 22, 2011 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about
Jay McClement has terrible statistics…that’s just the fact of the matter.
McClement seems like he’s been a bad fit with this team from Day 1. He’s not a hard grinder along the boards.
Having McClement, even as a 4th-line center, is a lukewarm prospect. On a team that’s pushing youth, size, and hunger, McClement seems to be a square peg in a round hole.
McClement also doesn’t deserve to wear an ‘A’. Fact is, he hasn’t been with this team long enough or accomplished enough with them to deserve the ‘A.’*
*That last comment certainly seems to fall in the realm of “opinion” rather than “fact,” but it was written by a member of the mainstream media and appeared in print in the Denver Post, so what do I know?
by DiD on Dec 22, 2011 9:23 AM MST up reply actions 5 recs
Extremely well done, your grace.
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by Mike @ MHH on Dec 22, 2011 10:41 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
No offense taken, I think you embrace only the negative viewpoint on Jay McClement.
Jay McClement’s stats are not great, but he is a defense first, third line center, who is a good penalty killer. Overall, his stats are slightly better than Stephane Yelle’s were.
He needs good checkers on his wing, and help, but so do all third line centers. His PK has been essential to the recent kill success, and he gives great effort.
He’s been a lot better this season than last, and has played well since playing as the third line center, particularly during the past month. When he first came to the Avs, he was not prepared to play for a team that was going rapidly downhill, and had troubles far beyond his capability. The trade was for the Avs future, in that they took EJ, a first round pick and Jay, for what was an important part of the then Avs in Shatty and Stewart. It was bound to be difficult for the new Avs to fit in, parciularly with EJ trying to find his overall no. 1 billing. There’s a shock factor going from a team you’ve played for years, coming into what was a shaky situation in Colorado, with terrible overall team play. The Avalanche are skating better, now, and so is McClement. At least we have a team that looks like it’ll compete to at least a .500 level, which wasn’t the case, last season.
Who is your third line center that fits so beautifully in your round hole? Actually, I think he’s a good fit with VDG, Malone and Gali. I’d take Jay centering those players on his third line any day, based on recent play.
Gali’s been better, and if he stays consistent, he’ll be a force all season, but he isn’t nearly
the consistent player McClement has been over the course of his career. Malone has played often with McClement, and although written in as the fourth line center, Sacco gets him on the ice, often, with Jay. He’s the solid forechecker that helps McClement’s offensive skills. McClement’s third line has been a solid third line, and has been a main reason, along with Jiggy, for recent success and wins.
He got the ‘A’ because why? Because he sucks and doesn’t deserve it? There are reasons why players get recognized, and his is because of his defensive work, good positioning and making his line mates better, but most likely a strong character.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 22, 2011 7:43 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry, man. I was being really, really sarcastic and at the same time trying to needle the hell out of Dater, who has been nothing short of a moron about Jay. I’ve liked the acquisition of Jay right from the start, and I had a pretty good idea what he would give this team. I linked to actual comments that Dater made, which ranged from uninformed (Square Peg) to asinine (“fact” that Jay doesn’t deserve the A).
Big Jay fan here.
To quote Jack Nicholson, ’don’t I feel like the asshole’ thanks for explaining…
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
by 7sky on Dec 22, 2011 7:57 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Naw, man, you had a lot of good stuff in there. Glad you didn’t blow your top for thinking I was serious.
Dan did some one finally give you that hug you been dying for? You have been fairly nice lately its giving me the creeps
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by Freakoffaleash on Dec 23, 2011 8:49 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
24-7
I haven’t watched the episode all the way through yet, but I jumped to the end to see if the Avs were in it. Alas, there was a distinct lack of burgundy in this week’s episode. It ended with the loss to the Bs. So I guess I’ll just have to wait until next Wednesday, but I’m really curious to see what Laviolette says about us and that game.
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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
They usually don’t I thought.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
The Blues fans get really butthurt when they lose. They will be over it in a few days
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
In all fairness to them they are probably getting tired of us beating them. We dominate them like the Flames own us.
by avalanchejef on Dec 22, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
In fairness to the Blues, they actually have a win against the Avs in the last three games.
Avs haven’t beaten the fLames since Lord Howard created Datsyuk.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Dec 22, 2011 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t think Colorado is a playoff team. Not this year anyway.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 22, 2011 8:34 AM MST up reply actions
I believe they can squeak in, especially if they start winning games in the division.
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 8:35 AM MST up reply actions
The only way they make the playoffs is if Duchene, Stastny, and O’Reilly fire on all cylinders at the same time. If they can actually run two threatening lines every game and still have the bottom 6 playing the way they are, then they can make it in.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Exactly…they have been going at points this year, but never really together (outside of the first couple of games in the Duchene-Stastny line experiment)
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
The best teams have enough skilled players to let others have ups and downs. The Avs don’t this year, though I think that will be addressed by…GASP…Semin, and in order to make the playoffs they need a year like 09 where everyone played balls out. If that happens, then the 8th spot will be possible.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
but isn’t that what has happened the last couple of games? Solid defense and 3rd and 4th liners producing combined with solid goaltending.
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 8:47 AM MST up reply actions
If we can get at least one of our top lines firing while maintaining our bottom 6, defense, and goaltending performances, we’re in. But that’s asking for consistency, and as much as I would like it to be possible, with this team I’m not so sure it is.
Come on boys – erase the scars of last year and make me believe. I want to believe!
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If we can get at least one of our top lines firing while maintaining our bottom 6
You mean something like SoS’s being pretty damn good the last few games and his line dominating the other teams’ in most matchups?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
by Mike @ MHH on Dec 22, 2011 8:53 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
No no, Stastny sucks. Didn’t you get the memo?
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
He’s a pussy.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Rycroft last night was speculating that Stastny was playing hurt, and finally took some time off to heal. He thinks that’s why SoS came back from his time off with a vengeance.
OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd
by Busted Twigg on Dec 22, 2011 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, something like that. I’d like the puck in the back of the other team’s net a little more from them (and not just off tips from the point), but they have been playing well. Radar’s line too.
Top 6 production is just a minor nitpick. Our team overall has looked pretty good as of late.
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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
Stastny must be playing like Superman, because despite having Winnik playing on that line, he certainly is playing his best hockey of the season so far. Huh. Weird.
I think Stastny plays his best hockey when he’s skating wit anyone that acts like a power forward. Stewart, Gali, Jones, now Winnik – any time one of those guys consistently drives to the net hard, Stastny seems to play better. I love Winnik, but I’d rather see him on our third line than our first. But right now, he’s the closest thing to a Top 6 Power Forward we have (other than Landy and DON’T YOU DARE EVEN THINK ABOUT BREAKING UP RADAR AND HIM!), so moving Winnik off that line would be a dumb move until we can figure out a replacement. Hopefully, it’s a healthy and motivated David Jones.
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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
Yeah, that Matt Duchene on the wing drawing defenders with his Spin Cycle/Rinse/Repeat probably has less to do with it than Winnik.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Spin Cycle/Rinse/Turnover/Repeat
FTFY
OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd
by Busted Twigg on Dec 22, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
What about Semin’s play this year has you thinking that he can help the Avs consistency as a FA signing or trade target? His underwhelming goal production? His Wolski-esque floating under two different head coaches? His demotion from the top line(s)? His lack of grit? His little nagging injury history? Or maybe it’s his complete lack of anything resembling contributing to my fantasy hockey team?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
by Mike @ MHH on Dec 22, 2011 8:51 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Can I take all of the above? Or does that ruin it…
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
It’s already ruined, Chia, it’s already ruined. The Tumbleweeds have serious scoring issues. If I didn’t have Timmy Thomas anchoring my goaltending, I’d be in last place.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Mike, you are right across the board. However, for some reason, I have this nagging belief that Semin will be wearing a Unipron.
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I actually had a dream where we signed Semin, haha
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
Did he leave his mark on the blue jersey?
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
by chiavsfan on Dec 22, 2011 8:55 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
ew.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 22, 2011 8:57 AM MST up reply actions
Not me. He’ll sign/get traded to somewhere in the east like Buffalo or Carolina for picks.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Semin has scored a goal in the past two games. He’s a very streaky scorer, maybe he’ll go on a run of scoring now. The guy is a headcase though. Probably not the best target to count on.
You argument against him not being on the top line isn’t really a good one, Semin usually plays on the second line. He doesn’t really play any lower than that, although he has been scratched a couple times this season. It didn’t work when Hunter put him with Ovie and Backstrom for a while (that line is hit or miss and Caps fans like to call them the Carebears because they get too cute passing), so they put him with Backstrom and Johansson for the last game. That line played well the last game and seems to be the new top line according to the colors of the jerseys in practice today (meaning Ovie is on the 2nd line). Semin is losing PP time though and for some inexplicable reason he is not getting PK time this season. He is actually really good on the PK and enjoys it and usually plays better during games if he is on the PK.
Semin does have an injury history but he hasn’t really gotten injured yet this season, other than his shoulder after getting boarded by J Staal.
I don’t see McPhee trading him to an Eastern team, but I think it depends on who is the highest bidder.
Hunter put him with Ovie and Backstrom for a while (that line is hit or miss and Caps fans like to call them the Carebears because they get too cute passing)
One of if not the most adorable line nicknames ever
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
We likely have to play better than LA, Nashville, Dallas, Calgary and Pheonix. Or at least better than 4 out of those 5. Even if the team plays reasonably well from here out, it’ll take a little luck to get in the 8th seed.
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by MalachiConstant on Dec 22, 2011 8:47 AM MST up reply actions
we have part of that luck
in that we currently have the 2nd “easiest” schedule for the rest of the season, when taken winning percentage into consideration.
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 8:49 AM MST up reply actions
Plus we only have one more loss to Calgary scheduled this year.
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by MalachiConstant on Dec 22, 2011 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
What about Vancouver, another team with the Avs number…
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
Quincey is going to get the boys fired up against the Nucks when he continually demolishes Lapierre in hits all night. There won’t be a fight cuz Lapierre won’t answer the bell for his dirty ass hit on Wilson. Doesn’t mean the boys can’t wreck him. And I can’t effing wait.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 22, 2011 8:59 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
do you have a link for wilson being out for the season?
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 9:00 AM MST up reply actions
Sandie and I talked to Mose on Saturday. It was pretty obvious that Wilson isn’t coming back. Who knows, though. Stranger things have happened. Look at Giroux.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 22, 2011 9:03 AM MST up reply actions
According to Sports Club Stats the Avs chances of making the playoffs are 8.2%
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western/Northwest/Colorado.html
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 22, 2011 8:50 AM MST up reply actions
So you’re telling me there’s a chance
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
There's a 100% chance of
fuck the red wings!
I believe.
by Lost Winter on Dec 22, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions 4 recs
LMAO, I’m going to use this for the rest of the season as to “who I should cheer for” unless that happens to be:
A. Detroit.
B. Vancouver.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Of course the first time I look, it’s telling me to cheer for Minnesota and Detroit… massive flaw there…
Wouldn’t it make more sense for those two to lose so we can slow them down all the while trying to catch up? I mean they’re facing Edmonton and Calgary (both teams that aren’t in the playoff picture)
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I think they can be, but there’s a lot of good teams in front of them.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Dec 22, 2011 5:13 PM MST up reply actions
Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Nashville, Vancouver, Minnesota, San Jose, Dallas and Phoenix are all ahead of the Avs. I think the Wild will fall, Dallas will fall. The Avs might be able to catch up to Nashville, St. Louis (doubted) and Phoenix. I think The Kings are better then what they are playing and therefore will probably move up to the top 8. I don’t see the Flames being there at the end either.
Chicago, Detroit, Vancouver, San Jose, are going to be in with a degree of certainty. (4 spots)
St. Louis, Phoenix are the next group. (2spots)
Nashville (only because of the high amount of games against the Blackhawks, Red Wings and Blues), LA Kings, Colorado, Minnesota, Dallas. (for final 2 spots)
If Colorado is going to make the playoffs they are going to need to dominate their division the rest of the year. Beat out the flames, Oilers 2 of next three, Wild 3-4 of next five. Split the rest of the Canucks. Should be interesting. Possible but it will be real tough.
by avalanchejef on Dec 22, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
8-7-2 against the West (not including division)
1-9 against the North West.
We go .500 against our own division and we’re looking at an extra 7 points. We sitting at 42pts, tied with St Louis 1 less than Detroit (all the while playing more games than both of them….but still)
Western record is nothing to be happy about either, but that Divisional record is killing us.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
If we’re at 42 points right now then Sacco really would be considered for the Jack Adams. This team has no right to be sniffing the rareified air of the top 6.
Varly, Duchene, Hejduk, and Stastny have all underperformed. I’m sure I’m missing a few more. I’m happy to finally crack the top 10.
I agree with you, mostly. I don’t think Phoenix is a very good team (but I’m not sure)
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Dec 22, 2011 5:14 PM MST up reply actions
I dont think they are either but I thought that the last few years but they keep winning.
by avalanchejef on Dec 22, 2011 6:26 PM MST up reply actions
Giggy isn’t possibly the best signing of the offseason, he is THE BEST signing of the offseason. A great backup when Varly is injured, or performing “less than outstanding.”
Didn’t get to see anything but the highlights…but I am enjoying the ride. Now we have to get that road mojo back from the Avs, and things will go well
10 days off of work starting in 2 hours. I should be able to finally watch some live hockey without passing out!!
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
congrats
make the best outta those ten days.
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 8:36 AM MST up reply actions
Mine break is almost half up already….damn it goes by too fast.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Dec 22, 2011 9:13 AM MST up reply actions
If Varly’s back is still wonky, you have to go with Giguere. I know people keep saying he can’t handle the workload…but remember, the guy got all of his nagging issues repaired surgically, and he’s only 34. It’s not like he’s ancient
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
And remember
His biggest nagging injury last season was playing behind Toronto’s defense.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
So much for not “Stuffing” the ballot boxes…
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Dec 22, 2011 9:27 AM MST up reply actions
I thought I read that Varly didn’t practice on Tuesday. Anybody know if he practiced today? With Giggy getting the next start, I wonder how long Varly is going to sit. Giggy is playing great though so I guess you keep riding that and let Varly heal up all the way. Maybe get in some time with the goalie coach too.
my guess is varly sees the first start after xmas
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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 22, 2011 7:52 PM MST up reply actions
With back to back games, you have to think he’ll start one of them.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Dec 22, 2011 8:02 PM MST up reply actions
I want Mueller back
I understand you don’t want to rush him back, but he’s been skating for a month and practicing hard with no symptoms, I feel like keeping him out is possibly only hurting the team. If he’s 100% healthy he can’t get healthier if you keep him out longer, but they will probably wait until after the break.
Just because he is practicing with minimum symptoms (we don’t know that he doesn’t have symptoms) during drills, doesn’t mean that he’d be ok with the speed and contact of a regular NHL game.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 22, 2011 8:45 AM MST up reply actions
To me, it was a safe assumption that he has no symptoms or else they wouldn’t let him even practice
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 8:46 AM MST up reply actions
Depends on the symptoms and if he is honest. We are hearing of a number of guys that hav e lied about their symptoms to get back into the lineup.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 22, 2011 8:48 AM MST up reply actions
Lappy did it too.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 22, 2011 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
But we have all learned at this point that Lappy is completely insane
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
I was listening to him on a French show and you could tell he was pissed at himself for going back.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 22, 2011 8:56 AM MST up reply actions
You have to.
The game is so different from drills and games. They need that time. I’d rather they make him practice for a full year if it’ll help him long-term tbh.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 22, 2011 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
Pop Psych be damned
It sounds like Jiggy likes Sacco, too:
“Big win for us,” Giguere said. “Starting with a two-goal lead really helped us, and we did another good job in the third period, keeping the lead. It’s all about working hard. If you work hard and follow the system that the coach puts in place, you’re going to give yourself a chance to win every night. And that’s what we’ve been doing here at home.”
Read more: Avs win 7th straight game at Pepsi Center – The Denver Post
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FIRE SACCO. THE AVS WOULD HAVE WON BY 9 GOALS IF THEY HAD A BETTER COACH.
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by c6hor8 on Dec 22, 2011 8:55 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I hate to be a dick but the Avs are getting bounces now, so Sacco is safe for sure. But, Sacco is still going to go through Christmas break without a deal and I bet he doesn’t get another deal until the offseason.
Last three games: McCleod saucers a puck from the blue line that miraculously gets in the net. Malone bounces a puck off Galiardi’s skate in to the net. McCleod gets a rebound gift from Elliott and McClement richocets a puck in off the D, while the net is almost off. The Avs are getting some good bounces right now and it’s not like they are beating guys by more than one goal.
I’m not saying they aren’t playing good hockey because I think they look pretty solid. I especially think so considering the quality of the teams they have beat these last few games. I would still like to see the Avs flat out beat a NW team without a shootout, fluky goal or 30+ save performance. They look like a team poised to grab 85-90 points if they keep working hard. Lots of hockey to play still.
I'll keep this brief.
I think they are playing about the same hockey as they were playing before they got the bounces. I think the story is going to be the same all year long – Avs will struggle to score, but will be in the games when the goaltending is there.
and I agree, they wont even discuss extension until after the year is over
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 22, 2011 9:18 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
These are the bounces we weren’t getting when we were losing. It seems like Sacco has grown a bit since last season and is actually sorta looking like he knows what he’s doing. I wouldn’t expect an extension before the end of the year, the question is, if we end up in that 10th or so spot, or even if we squeak into playoffs, does he still get canned?
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 9:18 AM MST up reply actions
No I agree. I find it absurd that when the AVs were getting bad bounces and bad luck everyone was calling for Sacco’s head. Now that the luck has changed, no one is crediting him with creating the luck. How is that logically fair?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
For what it’s worth, I still don’t think Sacco is the coach that’s going to lead the Avs deep in to the playoffs. The last three games haven’t changed that for me.
I'll keep this brief.
Right, but explain to me why bad luck losses are Sacco’s fault and should be cause for his termination, but good luck wins are not his doing and not cause for his praise.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I never claimed bad luck losses are Sacco’s fault. I’ve said it before, I think he’s just a mediocre coach and that’s why this Avs team is always (literally) in a virtual tie with their opposition give or take a bounce here and there. Others think it’s because of talent, depth, goaltending or whatever. That’s fine. I just don’t share the same glowing opinion of Sacco as others do. I’d love to be proven wrong.
I'll keep this brief.
You may not have, but there were so many people calling for his firing based on the losses. I don’t have a glowing opinion of him, but I find it unfair to blame him (FIRESACCO) after the losses early in the season when some of those losses were not on him. It seems acceptable on the internet for logic to be a one-way street.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Some of the losses weren’t on him, but there were some where he just couldn’t get his team energized AT ALL. There’s only so much a coach can do to motivate a team, but it seemed like the boys weren’t listening to Sacco since the crappy effort and same ol’ mistakes weren’t going away. It looked like he had lost the locker room, and when a coach loses a locker room, it’s time to fire them and move on. Player’s can’t learn, can’t get better, if they don’t want to listen.
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That’s an argument for firing Sacco based on some losses, which in and of itself is crazy if every coach is judged on a small scale. However, people here were arguing after every loss that he should be fired; to the point where every goal seemed to be his fault. I admit he has made mistakes in coaching but why has no one mentioned how he out-coached Julien in Boston? Or his great line changes against Ovechkin?
I don’t even like Sacco this much, but it’s bizarre how this argument is a one-way logical street. Even with my deepest anger toward someone like Anderson, I still get Chia’s point and can credit Anderson.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
why has no one mentioned how he out-coached Julien in Boston? Or his great line changes against Ovechkin?
I mentioned those line changes tyvm
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
which in and of itself is crazy if every coach is judged on a smallscalesample size.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Dec 22, 2011 5:16 PM MST up reply actions
Don’t forget that some people just don’t like other people. I liked Hartley, Ozolinsh and Hannan, I know for a fact that there are people out there that despise all of those guys. It happens, It’s like Maggie Simpson and the kid with one eyebrow.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 22, 2011 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
I’m still not convinced that Sacco can coach his way out of a paper bag. And his dispassion on the bench bugs me. You don’t say something to the ref just to try to get the call to go your way next time – you say something so your team knows that you’re fighting for them, that you’re doing your part as well.
We’ve gotten some good bounces lately. Maybe it’s because the guys are buying into the system, maybe it’s due to individual effort, or maybe it’s just pure luck. I still don’t think Sacco’s the biggest problem with this team, but I’m not sold that he’s the answer either. I’ll stick by that whether we’re winning or losing. I think he’s great at working with young players, but his in-game strategies still leave a lot to be desired.
He’s not great, but he’s not absolutely terrible either. And the team is playing better now, and some of the credit does have to go to him. He’s not exactly working with a team of All-Stars here – he’s working with a bunch of kids that are still trying to figure out their game. There’s only so much he can do. I’d still like to see the organization bring in a veteran coach that’s known for his on-ice strategy as either the head coach, or better yet, as an assistant. Sacco will be a great coach one day, but is this team going to suffer while we wait for it?
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Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
wat
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 22, 2011 1:00 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
I don’t think the ghost of Toe Blake along with assistant coaches Scotty Bowman, Herb Brooks, Pat Burns, goaltending coach Francois Allaire, assistant goaltending coach Georges Vezina, and strength/motivation coach Tim Tebow would lead this team deep into the playoffs.
I realize that you are most likely talking about an Avs team in the future and not this particular team, but who knows when that will be?
Said what?
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Dec 22, 2011 10:11 AM MST up reply actions
the T word(s)
That's nobody's business but the Turks
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 10:12 AM MST up reply actions
What would that/those be?
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Dec 22, 2011 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
they rhyme with rim rebow
That's nobody's business but the Turks
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
I guess that’s as close as I’m going to get to having you say it…… ;-P
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Dec 22, 2011 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
Yep
I know your tricks
That's nobody's business but the Turks
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
And, on the other side...
The last three games featured some odd-man rushes, a couple of breakaways, and a post or two. Luck/bad luck.
If the Avalanche make the playoffs, especially without significant contributions from the Rotting Corpse of Milan Hejduk and the Enigmatic Fisherman Matt Duchene, I think you have to consider Coach Sacco for the Jack Adams again.
Enigmatic Fisherman Matt Duchene
D’angler?
OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd
by Busted Twigg on Dec 22, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
That moment
when you really want a grilled turkey and cheese sandwich and then realize you have no bread…
that moment
when you learn to make your own bread.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Dec 22, 2011 9:04 AM MST up reply actions
That moment where you learn that I’m too damn lazy to make my own bread…
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
by chiavsfan on Dec 22, 2011 9:08 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That takes effort and at least half an hour of time
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv
by MalachiConstant on Dec 22, 2011 9:08 AM MST up reply actions
/rimshot
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 22, 2011 1:01 PM MST up reply actions
Yo
When we gonna throw down, League style?
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 22, 2011 1:21 PM MST up reply actions
Anytime, yo.
Just text me and I’ll try to be doooooown.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 22, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions
Are you talking league of legends? Lemme me in on this!
Our Universe is so Humongous Big - Illya Bryzgalov
Don't worry be happy right now - Illya Bryzgalov
by Freakoffaleash on Dec 22, 2011 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
You play?
Add me up. BaconCrush is name.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 22, 2011 5:33 PM MST up reply actions
And crushing bacon is the game.
Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
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by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 22, 2011 5:42 PM MST up reply actions
You have me already remember??
Our Universe is so Humongous Big - Illya Bryzgalov
Don't worry be happy right now - Illya Bryzgalov
by Freakoffaleash on Dec 22, 2011 7:52 PM MST up reply actions
No!
What’s your name? I only play with like 2 people on this list so I don’t have any idea whose names belong to whose except Dario because his is hilarious.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 22, 2011 11:11 PM MST up reply actions
have a couple main one I use is Veltan I was waiting for u to get on last night but u didn’t log on :u(
Our Universe is so Humongous Big - Illya Bryzgalov
Don't worry be happy right now - Illya Bryzgalov
by Freakoffaleash on Dec 23, 2011 8:45 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
We were watching flicks.
Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
Mile High Hockey
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by Cheryl Bradley on Dec 23, 2011 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
HATER!
Our Universe is so Humongous Big - Illya Bryzgalov
Don't worry be happy right now - Illya Bryzgalov
by Freakoffaleash on Dec 23, 2011 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
We'll see how the rest of the month goes....
Last season after playing New Years Eve the Avs record was 20-13-5 for 45pts
This season with 5 games remaining the Avs are 17-17-1 for 35pts
Despite their struggles this season the Avs aren’t far off last season’s pace. As long as 2012 doesn’t turn into a repeat of the first half of 2011,
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
Violating Rule 53
I was in violation of rule 53 once. They called me for tripping. What a bunch of crock! I got all puck on that play and the player skated on. That’s not tripping! Get your calls right ref! When I throw my stick to make a play, I want to be called for throwing my stick, not tripping! Damn zebras can’t even get their calls correct.
"Hello, I'm Doctor Worm. Good morning how are you? I'm Doctor Worm. I am not a real doctor but I am a real worm, I am an actual worm". - They Might Be Giants
"Light the Lamp! Not the Rat!" - Rizzo the Rat
by Light the Lamp on Dec 22, 2011 10:01 AM MST reply actions
sure
DDC is deeply embedded throughout this blog. For better or worse, his taint taints us all.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Dec 22, 2011 10:04 AM MST up reply actions
ya
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 22, 2011 1:02 PM MST up reply actions
Jiggy
has shown some emotion in the past two games. He was throwing punches last game and he was real pissed after O’Brien tipped the shot and it went in. I like seeing Jiggy show some fire, I think he’s a real great leader and maybe in the future, a goaltending wizard, as some would like to call it.
I’m surprised his stick survived that show of “emotion”
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Dec 22, 2011 10:12 AM MST up reply actions
haha me too
he was one step away from the Roy flip out
That's nobody's business but the Turks
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 10:13 AM MST up reply actions
I wonder what would happen if our coach showed a little fire on occasion too.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs.
Varly: you're awesome. We love you. Please don't break.
you really want him to yell at refs, dont you?
That's nobody's business but the Turks
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
I enjoyed Laviolette’s “conversation” with the refs on 24/7 last night.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
He straight up told the refs their penalty calls were homer-ism for the Montreal crowd. Good stuff.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Nice, always enjoyed watching Laviolette coach. Also glad to see someone call out the refs for being a homer especially in Montreal.
Actually, I think it was a Euro ref. Hard to tell with the accent, but he basically opined that the day was playing to the crowd in Montreal.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I love how afterwards in the Philly game after calling Talbot he’s like… well that was a bad call… but you know, you it all added up to a penalty.
Talbot: You can’t call what doesn’t happen.
Ref: I agree it was a bad call.. (but go serve your 2 minutes.)
Like seriously WTF?! Now their calling shit because things added up?!
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Their excuse is that they don’t want the game to get “chippier” or whatever other bs excuse they come up with. Look what happens if a player lays two big hits in one shift, more often than not they are called on the second one even if both hits were legal.
This is my gripe with the roughing call, it is too loose of a call and is more of a “I don’t know if that was illegal, but it looked too rough for our sensitive viewers so I will call it roughing” call.
But that’s BS, how is two legal hits in a row going to be called once a good way to go about reffing…
The whole “control the game” is a bunch of BS… call the stupid stuff like after the whistles and dirty stuff… yet they call stupid stuff like that Talbot call…
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Last night… we got Jiggy with it.
Big Willie Style’s all up in it.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
You know what? We haven’t given Jan Hejda the love he deserves. He had a GREAT game last night IMO
Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results
by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 22, 2011 11:55 AM MST reply actions
I’m reserving praise until he shows consistently across a couple of games that he won’t fuck it up again. With that said, he did look alright out there. I like o’brien with johnson and then o’byrne with hejda. Seems they are all meshing pretty well together.
He was bitchin against Ovy in the Caps game. And that was his one job – take Ovy’s time and space.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
He did have a very good game last night.
by avalanchejef on Dec 22, 2011 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
St Louis was singin the blues last night. Hope they were taking notes. I’m sure they weren’t hittin the bars last night. No time for signatures. Looks like Stewrat is turning out to be a not so major key to their success. Backes sure is one giant ritard.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Dec 22, 2011 12:23 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
just watched it
and the other dude in the box just made me laugh so hard
That's nobody's business but the Turks
by ProfessorOak on Dec 22, 2011 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
2nd episode… I gained an immense amount of respect for Torts…
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Montreal typical.
Gained a lot of respect for Laviolette, with that quote.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
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