Jets at Avalanche Recap: Jets Fly Past Avs 4-1
Coming into tonight's game against Winnipeg, the big question I had was whether or not the Avs were going to get their legs going after the short road trip and the Christmas holiday. The short answer is yes. They came right out of the gate and were forcing the play in the offensive zone and out shot the Jets 11 to 6. With the exception of a minor mistake by Shane O'Brien who pinched at the wrong time with out a forward to back him up. It led to a 2 on 1 where Evander Kane sent a near perfect wrist shot right past Jean-Sebastien Giguere's glove. The goal came with just over 3 minutes to play in the first period. After that goal Winnipeg appeared to have the Avs back on their heels. They controlled the game and generated a couple more good opportunities before the end of the period.
The second period didn't start exactly how the Avs would have liked as Ryan O'Byrne was called for holding just 40 seconds into the period. They quickly capitalized on the power play. A hard shot was take from the point which bounced around before it made it's way to the front of the net. By the time the puck got to the net, Giguere was so far out of position by playing the original shot, he couldn't recover quick enough and it was a slam dunk for Tim Stapleton. To me, one of Giguere's most glaring weaknesses is hist lack of overall mobility, especially side-to-side. It was exposed right there as he attempted to push across but couldn't.
After giving up the early power play goal the Avs settled in. They were able to get some really good scoring chances and seemed to have to all the momentum. Then boom. Evader Kane came in on a breakaway which Jiggy turned aside. The Avs turned the puck over behind the net then Kane was able to beat his man to the front of the net and poked home his second goal of the night. 3-0 Jets.
Heading into the third period the Avs had to have the first goal in the period if they wanted to have any real chance of coming back in this game. Unfortunately the Jets were the ones who struck first in the third. As Giguere stopped the puck behind his net, he left it for Stefan Elliott who mishandled the puck and put it back in Giguere's skates. Giggy was fortunate not to put it in his own net, but did kick right into the middle of the crease where Jim Slater was there to hammer the puck home for the Jets. It was Slater's 7th goal of the season to put Winnipeg up 4-0.
The Avs started to show a little life as the third period was winding down. The Avs fourth line of McLeod, Van der Gulik, and Porter combined for the Avs first goal of the game off a nifty tic-tac-toe passing play. Porter finished off the play by tipping the puck between Onredj Pavelic's legs. It was Porter's second goal of the season. This line was easily the Avs' best as the game wore on. I think this may have been the case because they were the only ones playing what I call "north south" hockey. They weren't trying anything fancy, they were getting shots on net, winning all the little battles and working harder than any other line.
If the Avs even want to think about making the playoffs, the big names like Stastny, Hejduk, and Duchene need to start contributing.
- 1 Kevin Porter, Scored the Avs only goal on the night.
- 2 Matt Hunwick, Lead the Avs in ice time with 22:57 and had 4 shots on goal.
- 3 David Van der Gulik, He was all over tonight making smart plays, including primary assist on Porter's goal.
- 1 Landeskog-O'Reilly-Hejduk
- 2 Duchene-Stastny-Winnik
- 3 Malone-McClement-Galiardi
- 4 McLeod-Porter-Van Der Gulik
- 1 Johnson-O'Brien
- 2 Hejda-O'Bryne
- 3 Elliott-Hunwick
- 1 David Van der Gulik has been playing some of his best hockey over the last few games and I'm really impressed him. Looks like someone doesn't want to go back to Cleveland anytime soon.
- 2 For the first time in a while Ryan O'Reilly had an almost invisible night. He was 50% on faceoffs, didn't get a shot on net and was a -2. Kane beat him to the net for the Jets' third goal of the night.
- 3 Even after receiving a game misconduct last night, Cody McLeod was in tonight's lineup. Not sure if there will be any further disciplinary action coming from the NHL.
The Avs welcome the old Winnipeg Jets, now the Phoenix Coyotes, into town on Thursday night. This will be a significant game for Ryan O'Reilly as he will face his older brother Cal. Also, former Avs defenseman Derek Morris will make a return visit to Denver.
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Crediting Hunwick with 4 “shots” is generous at best
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by Cole D Hamilton on Dec 27, 2011 9:32 PM MST reply actions
Yeah wow, The old Funwick returned for that one. All I can say about this game was wow… The Avs laid a nice egg in this one. We have played better in back to back games than that for sure.. What an opportunity lost.
LA plays Chicago next and it was really an opportunity to gain some ground on another team that will probably be in the playoffs fighting us for those last spots.
Well, usually with back-to-backs, they’re in the city of the first game the day before instead of flying in on the day of and flying out that night. I know that traveling always wipes me out, and Minnesota, while fairly close in comparison to some other teams, isn’t exactly a short little 30 minute jet ride away. Because of Christmas, the travel schedule was almost like a back-to-back-to-back situation and IMO it caught up to the guys tonight.
It sucks that they didn’t get the points, and it may really come back to bite us because we’ve played more games than anyone else in the West. But their performance tonight is pretty understandable.
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Reasons I'm not panicking:
- 5 days since our last full team practice (pre-game before the Lightning game)
- 2 days break, then a really tough travel schedule with an early morning yesterday (4 or 5 AM), flight, game, flight, and second shortened night’s sleep last night
- Tough back-to-back with a hard-skating first game
- Pretty darn long streak of really good games before this
- Playing a team with good goaltending and nasty snipers… that is actually a playoff team as of right now
- Most of the mistakes we made tonight were pretty small (Winnipeg did a good job of making them look ugly though), easily correctable, and mostly due to little mental lapses/slower footspeed that looked an awful lot like a side-effect of fatigue.
- Giggy had happy feet tonight and seemed even slower than usual – he didn’t make the same positional decisions that he usually does.
- I don’t care how not horribly he’s played as of late, but you know there’s something a little fishy when Matt Hunwick had the second highest TOI on the team and our top scoring defensemen is munching nachos.
- We worked hard tonight and had some pretty awesome chances (we actually crashed the net some and got rebounds!), but their goalie had a good game and we didn’t use our speed or skate like we usually do. Even Sacco said the Jets had the better legs tonight.
It’s a bad game. It happens. If this turns into another bad game after the boys have gotten some sleep, then I’ll be worried. Was I hoping for more from them tonight? Yes, of course. We could be sitting pretty in 8th right now, but we’re 12th instead. Still, we’re only 2 points out of the playoffs and just coming off our best stretch of hockey in the last 12 months. Yeah, some of the guys had pretty bad nights, but they’ve been good more often than not for the past month.
I’m with Giggy on this one. We just need to regroup tomorrow in practice and come out strong against the ’Yotes.
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Also, we are not allowed to play on Top 6 forwards' birthdays anymore.
The last three birthday games we’ve had are Stastny’s tonight, Landy’s on Nov 23 (3-0 whoopin’ courtesy of the Canucks) and Hejduk’s last Februrary that DIDN’T ACTUALLY HAPPENED. Ugh. That game. Yes, that one. I don’t want to talk about it because it doesn’t exist.
Oh, but wait! We have a game Jan. 16 (Duchene, @ PHX), Feb. 7 (O’Reilly, vs. CHI), and Mar. 6 (Winnik, vs. MIN) this year! Awesome!
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by wtnelson on Dec 28, 2011 2:14 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
So very, very proud of this. Truly.
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by Chris Damasceno on Dec 28, 2011 3:25 AM MST up reply actions
Why is Hunwick getting 22 minutes of ice time? He has been ok but you don’t play ok defensemen 22 minutes a night unless you’re embracing the tank and languishing.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Agreed. While at the game, I noticed a 2 on 1 develop with Duchene. I look up to find his teammate involved in the play was none other than Hunwick. The pass, while hurried from Duchene, whizzed right past 22 and I couldn’t help but wonder if that had been 27 instead if there would have been a different, better outcome. Prior to the 3rd Jets goal, I looked up on the snazzy new BestBuy Minitrons in the upperdeck and noticed Hunwick had logged 15:43 of ice time, and had to do a double-take because it couldn’t have been the case.
by quietstorm560 on Dec 27, 2011 11:25 PM MST up reply actions
Naw, I remember that play. Pass was deflected by the defender’s stick.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Fair enough, I was on the opposite end of the ice at an odd angle and it looked like he just couldn’t corral it. Make sense when you mention the delfection.
by quietstorm560 on Dec 28, 2011 12:08 AM MST up reply actions
Why is Hunwick getting 22 minutes of ice time?
Just went back and looked at the Minny game. There Hunwick got a whole 15:13 Toi, compared to the 22:57 tonight.
Other D-men: Minny game vs Winnipeg
O’Byrne – 20:01 – 18:58
O’Brien – 17:42 – 15:10
Johnson – 21:36 – 19:09
Hejda – 18:38 – 22:20
Elliot – 18:30 – 20:25
Maybe it’s a simple as trying to rest the guys who played more minutes the night before. Maybe…
Then again IF Quincey is ready to go, why wasn’t he in the line up to give one of those guys a break/rest?
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by Americanario on Dec 28, 2011 8:42 AM MST up reply actions
God forbid you put in your best (or 2nd best depending on your view of the D) defenseman that’s fully rested from missing the last 4 games or so. Maybe even put in Yip, you know the team is going to come out flat from playing the night before. But Sacco doesn’t know why the team was winning, so why jinx it eh?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 28, 2011 9:33 AM MST up reply actions
someone told me they read that Quincey is really upset he’s not back in the lineup yet and wants a trade if he’s not gonna play, anyone heard anything about this?
seems like pure speculation
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by ProfessorOak on Dec 28, 2011 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
Admiral Akbar would be proud...
If this wasn’t a trap game, I have no idea what else would have been more obvious. The Jets a bad road team, 4-8-4 on the road—I thought I read somewhere. The Avs really playing a strong game against a divisional rival the previous night. The second of a back-to-back. Our goalie being named NHL 3rd Star of the Week the previous week. It all lined up perfectly.
And then they came out and straight dominated shots. I looked and saw we had 11 to the Jets’ 1 and I knew something was amiss. When the shots didn’t start getting past Pavelic, I knew it was only a matter of time before the dam broke and sheesh did it ever. I give them the excuse of the short traveling time. I understand that. And like my dad used to always tell me, I’m not angry just disappointed. While I’d usually rag on Sacco regarding a game like this, I won’t. My only beef with him was that he never once attempted to spark the team by addressing the officials. There were a few no-calls that while borderline, would have been called had it been a blueberry sweater performing it rather than Winnepeg’s finest. I think that’s one of the little things that a coach can do when he knows his team has just traveled, is playing the second in a back to back, etc. etc. But all in all, what would you expect?
The third period was extremely silent in Pepsi Center. There was more than 7 minutes where you could hear the Avs defensemen yelling to teammates in their own end clear as day. The large crowd was taken completely out of the game, much like the team, after that soft call on O’Byrne that led to the Jets power play goal.
Van Der Gulik was tremendous. Prior the the Porter goal VDG took a nasty check, but recovered quickly and was able to stay in the play. This lead to one positive note of offense from the Avs for the night.
It doesn’t get easier. The upcoming roadie is gonna be another defining stretch of games on this season. I hope they can get some rest, battle and bounce back to keep working towards making the Playoffs. And please do NOT trade Quincey unless we’re getting Rick Nash (or someone of equal or greater value) in return.
When the shots didn’t start getting past Pavelic, I knew it was only a matter of time before the dam broke and sheesh did it ever.
I don’t always agree with quietstorm
But when I do it’s when I have the same thought after posting y u no guy twice in as many minutes, “aw shit this is one of these TV breaking games”
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
We did have some really great chances tonight, but our top 3 lines couldn’t solve their goalie. You usually aren’t going to win hockey games when that happens.
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True, but I wonder if in the grand scheme of things they wouldn’t have been able to win this game at all. I mean, everything was so stacked against them. And it’s not like we see the Jets enough for them to decimate us—they were the Thrashers after all. Is it just because we struggle against the Western Canadian teams?
by quietstorm560 on Dec 28, 2011 12:12 AM MST up reply actions
Thanks Sacco.
I’m guessing the team didn’t start on time either.
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Blame Hunwick for everything bad and assume it is his fault because basically everyone judges him from last year and continuously holds that against him!!!!! Duchene’s pass to him on the 2 on 1 gets deflected? STILL HUNWICK’S FAULT
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by ProfessorOak on Dec 27, 2011 11:59 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
See above. I was at a bad angle and didn’t see the deflection.
by quietstorm560 on Dec 28, 2011 12:12 AM MST up reply actions
I, for one,
have been pleasantly surprised by Hunwick’s play this year, especially since he and Elliott have been paired together. I don’t think I even considered giving him one of my 3 stars last year.
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I also noticed a play where Winnik (God love him) recieved the puck coming down the right side.. Had Duchene wide open in the middle of the Ice because they had already pushed everyone low. He just threw it at the goalie or behind the net when all he needed to do was tap it left for Duchene.
We need Jones back or another forward like yesterday. Winnik is just too much of a grinder as much as I love him. If I was Duchene that would have frustrated the hell out of me. (He was really wide open in the high slot with a clean passing lane from Winnik.)
The Jets took advantage of our team being tired. Let us come out hard and then when things calmed down turned it up on us. Besides their Goalie gave them the leeway and confidence to do so from the jump..
I think we can keep winning but we will be grinding out one goal games until that first line is complete. Which will kill us in games like this when the team is to tired to grind it out.
I remember that play and I remember thinking “wow, Dutchy is so open.”
Speaking of Duchene frustration, after the Giggy mental lapse that lead to the 4th Jets goal, he was infuriated that it happened. I felt so bad for the kid, I seriously hope that they resign him. Tavares and Hedman are already locked up long term, right?
by quietstorm560 on Dec 28, 2011 1:00 AM MST up reply actions
You think they might not re-sign him? That’s a new one.
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A few Avalanche interns have…well, big mouths…and they’ve said that there’s definitely a “rift” between Sacco and Duchene. I’m sorry, but I take the kid before that coach. Players like him only come around, oh, once every 20 years. See Sakic, Joe.
by quietstorm560 on Dec 28, 2011 9:21 AM MST up reply actions
hahaha, you can’t even put Duchene anywhere close to Sakic.
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by ProfessorOak on Dec 28, 2011 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
Duchene can’t even sniff Sakic’s jock strap, let alone hold it.
Personally, I don’t want to build a team around this version of Matt Duchene. No thanks, pass.
I don’t see why not.
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by ProfessorOak on Dec 28, 2011 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
One trick pony (offense only, and only sometimes), couldn’t handle the defensive aspects of center, doesn’t make his linemates better, hasn’t improved considerably since his rookie year, seems on the youngish side of 20, and you don’t build a team around a winger.
Only playing wing because we don’t have enough wingers to play with him. his defense has gotten better, including faceoffs. I think he does make his line mates better, it’s not his fault they can’t finish.
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by ProfessorOak on Dec 28, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
I remember Duchene making a great pass to Radar in the Minny game. I also remember him getting back on defense and making a nice play to break up a good chance for Minnesota at a key point in the game. He is one of our best weapons and a young player that is still improving.
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I’m tending toward Dan’s point of view. I have not seen a great deal of improvement in Duchene’s game since his rookie year. Example: Just after the Jets’ third goal, he, Stastny and Hedjuk (I think) had a 3 on 2 break. Stastny moves the puck to the right side to Duchene then slows down into the high slot. Duchene drives the puck below the circles on the right. He has Stastny open in the slot with a clear passing lane and a half open net. Hedjuk is low on the left side for a bounce off the back boards. Duchene takes a bad angle shot into Pavelec’s leg pad on the post. Puck bounces harmlessly to the corner. He was a black hole on that rush. Once the puck was on his stick, his head never came up except to find the near post. It is not an isolated incident.
He has shown some defense lately, but I seem to recall it from when he was playing point on the power play, and used his speed to stop a couple of short-handed breaks.
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by Busted Twigg on Dec 28, 2011 3:45 PM MST up reply actions
I wonder about this too. I’ve seen similar plays from him. I wonder if he realizes that by deign of just being Matt Duchene, he’ll draw attention and defenders, thus opening up his linemates for higher probability scoring opportunities. Once this starts paying dividends, the D will either have to play a more honest all-encompassing 50/50 style giving him and his linemates more room or they’ll key on his centerman and left wing creating oodles of opportunities for Duchene. But as long as he’s a shoot first, second and possibly third-type player, he takes himself out of some plays because he’s easier to defend.
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I saw a play where Winnik made a perfect feed to Duchene in the slot, who shot harmlessly high into Pavlec’s chest, and then Stastny didn’t convert the rebound.
Every player shoots the puck into the chest of the goalie once in a while. I saw Hejduk do it in a game recently. What is your point, Duchene sucks and doesn’t belong on the team? Should we just let him walk at the end of the season?
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Where did Dan say that? He’s made some valid points that Duchene’s potential still out-weighs his production and there are serious questions as to how he fits on the team as it’s currently built.
Let have actual conversations for a change instead of mildly inflammatory bullshit parades.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 28, 2011 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
I wouldn’t want to see him walk at the end of the season, and I don’t think he will.
I’m disappointed with his progress. When Stastny was slumping like crazy last season (I think it was in the second half), a lot of people were talking about us having 1A and 1B centers. Some said that Duchene passed Stastny as our No. 1 center.
This year he’s a poor man’s Patrick Kane. Which is OK, but he’s not the driving force of this team like many people expected him to be.
truth is he can’t walk, he either re-signs, is traded, or sits out a year
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by ProfessorOak on Dec 28, 2011 2:05 PM MST up reply actions
No one in the preseason top 6 is really doing all that well at all this year, on pace for:
Mueller: 0 goals, Duchene, 24 goals, Hedjuk, 19 goals
I don’t remember who was on the left side preseason, Stastny 25 goals and Jones 16 goals.
That’s a lineup that doesn’t scare anyone, Sacco has to find a way to get these guys going.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 28, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
if there’s a rebound that Stastny didn’t convert, how was the shot harmless?
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by ProfessorOak on Dec 28, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
Wasn’t it Joe that called for trading for Bruins prospect Matt Hunwick a couple years back?
Seriously, I’ve enjoyed watching Hunwick. Quincey needs to play. If Hunwick is in, fine, with the way he’s been playing of late. But sitting Quincey is stupid.
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You know. Maybe I’m raining on the Hunwick parade a bit, but just because he isn’t exploding distant stars with a high level of suck anymore doesn’t make me want him on the ice, much less leading in TOI. I have still yet to see him do anything that our other defensemen don’t do on a more consistent basis. His shots are harmless. His passes Tebowesque. His defense isn’t much better, yet people are calling for his coronation because he’s not playing with his pants on his head anymore.
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by Dixomatic on Dec 28, 2011 8:45 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Uh oh! You said the T word.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
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by Americanario on Dec 28, 2011 8:49 AM MST up reply actions
rec’ed. Nice and correct use of Tebowesque.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 28, 2011 9:38 AM MST up reply actions
Who's calling for his coronation?
The best I’ve seen is that he’s turned it around from last year but still is far from deserving top pairing ice time.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
I don’t think there’s a parade to rain on. Nobody is saying he’s an All-Star. But he is contributing to the team in a positive way, and it’s been good to watch.
All that said, Quincey sitting is stupid.
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Agreed, I ragged on him for being the worst defenseman in the NHL last year, but he’s really improved his play. I don’t see why you would play him 22 minutes and not put in quincey. To me, it’s not a fireable offense but one of a myriad of reasons why he’s not a good coach.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 28, 2011 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
Rec'd.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Dec 28, 2011 8:04 AM MST up reply actions
Of note?
SB Nation blogosphere says McLeod will be getting nothing worse than a wrist-slap, if anything. No hearing.
I'm really glad to see that.
If you follow me on Twitter I was asking the general question of “when does the player getting hit start taking some of the blame for putting themselves in bad situations?”
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That is because the hit was clean.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Dec 28, 2011 9:12 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I just saw it for the first time. I don’t think it was dirty. It looked bad, but he just kinda glided into the guy.
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He did get punished, he got kicked out of the game and the mild had a 5 minute PP.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 28, 2011 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
Stastny research update
He switched to a composite stick last season, right? Assuming that’s true… and I’m ignoring the season that didn’t happen because he missed half of it…….
Stastny has a fairly middling baseline of ten-game average points per game, somewhere around 0.7 if I had to guess, and then 1-3 times a season he just explodes and spends about a week (maybe two) hovering at or above 1.4 ppg (10 game average). That explosion never happened last season—instead, the Tank did. In a part of the season when he has historically turned his jets on, he stayed a hair below his normal and his goals plummeted. Blame that on what you want.
Point: Since he switched from his wood stick, the high streaks are gone. There’s confounds everywhere, of course, but, as a more consistent player these past two seasons, he has eliminated streaks—good streaks. The goals are right where they’ve always been…… it’s assists.
PAUL I HAVE GREAT VISION STASTNY SCORED THREE WHOLE FUCKING POINTS IN A TEN GAME SPAN THIS YEAR. ALL OF THE GOALS. PAUL I HAVE GREAT VISION STASTNY – ZERO. ZERO! ASSISTS IN A TEN GAME SPAN. NOT EVEN A LOUSY SECONDARY ASSIST ANYWHERE.
What the hell, bro. What the hell.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
So write him a letter saying this and telling him to switch back to a wood stick. That is what your saying right?
Oh I will be flaming mad at Sacco if Quincey does not get traded. Keeping Quincey out for Hunwick is just ludicrous. ESPECIALLY when you need fresh players.
I want to see Quincey in the lineup too, but Hunwick has done absolutely nothing to warrant being benched. Typically I’m not a big fan of going with 7D but I don’t think I’d mind seeing it right now. Just as long as Hunwick is on defense and not a forward.
But his offensive diversity is what led us to acquiring him in the first place. It wasn’t simply to remove the last few pieces of the Francios Giguere ran Avalanche. Why not let him roll as a 4th line forward? His phenomenal play lately has warranted it, correct?
by quietstorm560 on Dec 28, 2011 1:06 AM MST up reply actions
Incorrect. To EARN the spot as a fourth line forward, one must be indeed familiar and comfortable playing on the aptly named forwards’ “energy” line. A forward’s role is understanding how to break out, forecheck, create net presence, and create scoring chances. Hunwick, unfortunately, is not much of use in the offensive zone.
Let’s not kid ourselves people, he turns the puck over readily and has yet to generate “offensive diversity”. Unless 1 assist and a -2 in 10 games is today’s standard of offensive productivity as a defenseman.
Quincy, on the other hand, has 17 points through 32 games and is 65th in the league for PP points. Those who say Hunwick provides offensive diversity should keep this in mind.
by HansoBonanzo on Dec 28, 2011 3:02 AM MST up reply actions
I guess your sarcasm detector is broken. I’m not at all for the use of “Bumwick” on this team in any capacity unless it’s as a cap floor placeholder and nacho consumer. He may not even be nacho worthy—Spud Spot baked potato consumption maybe…
by quietstorm560 on Dec 28, 2011 3:23 AM MST up reply actions
God, Sacco shit the bed on this one.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
He does have to stand around for hours and do pretty much nothing.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 28, 2011 9:44 AM MST up reply actions
The score sucked last night, but honestly we had 5-6 defensive breakdowns all game, they capitalized on 4 of them. Our offense was somewhat stagnant but we created alot of chances, just tried to be too pretty and make that extra pass. Our defense overall the last 6 or so games has been pretty stellar not including last night so if the trend continues with brain farts in our defensive zone then yes there is cause for worry but if this was just a blip no harm done.
Agreed. And it’s tough to fly into your own barn and see your opposition was waiting for you the day before. Blame the schedule and blame the youth. As they get more experienced, I trust losses like these will be few and far between.
by quietstorm560 on Dec 28, 2011 9:25 AM MST up reply actions
Didn’t get a chance to watch the game, caught a few highlights. Seems like their #9 was really good – he picked O’Reilly’s pocket on his 2nd goal, and his first was a laser. Seems like their goalie outplayed Jiggy, it happens. Three of their four goals had some weird bounces involved, right? Still, not going to win, usually, by only scoring one. Nice to see O’Brien do what he’s supposed to do to Tanner Glass.
One goal was a snipe on a 2 on 1.
One goal was a poorly handled puck between Giguere and Elliott.
The power play goal involved Giguere being so far out of the net it was almost comical.
I really don’t remember the other goal, did it have a weird bounce involved?
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Well, it was Jiggy saving Kane’s breakaway, then Kane making a great move on Factor to get the puck back, then I thought the pass in front back to Kane might have bounced off a stick or skates or something. Looks like the pass bounced off EJ’s skates, but giving up a goal in a 2-on-5 is pretty poor, and that was with O’Reilly’s line out there.
Mike Chambers is chock full of news
Quincey to return against Phoenix! Kobasew too! Varly gets the start! Wilson is close! Malone probably scratched! No one wearing the orange jersey, which means Mueller might be close! Cody spoke to a Wild assistant coach after the game to check on Spurgeon!
Chambers is doing a really nice job, in my opinion.
Mueller has been fully practicing for a while. I have a feeling he is no much closer. I wonder who will get scratched for Quincey.
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by ProfessorOak on Dec 28, 2011 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
Depth chart wise I would guess Hunwick, but who sits when Wilson comes back? O’Brien, O’Bryne? Probably not Elliot but you never know. Very curious what kind of shape Mueller will be in, I would send him to LE for a game or 3 and get his feet back somewhat (I’m thinking it will take him at least a month til he can play full speed.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Dec 28, 2011 3:00 PM MST up reply actions
I agree with Mueller. I’m not sure how many players are on the roster, but they may have to send Elliott down as part of the numbers game or risk throwing O’Byrne or Hunwick on waivers.
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by ProfessorOak on Dec 28, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
Things sure can get crowded in a hurry. But good news no matter what. Now if Hishon and Olver could just get skating. When was the last time this franchise didn’t have someone on the shelf with a concussion?
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
I may not have been born, heh
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by ProfessorOak on Dec 28, 2011 3:33 PM MST up reply actions

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