Final Grade: Scott Hannan
This report card is a joint effort by Beachie, Sandie, Paul, SlamDunktheFunk and DDC. Stats courtesy of hockey-reference.com and NHL.com
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Final Grade: B+
Last Year: B-
Position: D
Vitals: 6'1" / 225 / Age 32 / Shoots Left
Drafted by San Jose, 1st round (23rd) of 1997 Draft
Joined Avalanche: Signed as free agent, July 1, 2007
MHH Nicknames: Hobbit
Linemates:
- Quincey 9gp 0g 1a 1pt -3
- Shattenkirk 8gp 0g 3a +2
- Wilson 4gp 0g 2a 2pt +2
- Holos 1gp 0g 0a 0pt Even
- Liffiton 1gp 0g 0a 0pt Even
Avs with Hannan in the lineup: 13-9-1 (.587pt %) 3.61 GF 3.09 GA
Ice Time:
- TTOI 18:37 (9th)
- EV 15:11 (9th)
- PK 3:21 (1st)
- PP 0:04 (15th)
Career Highlights: Hannan has played in the postseason 9 times in his 11-year career.
Report: For a player making as much money as Scott Hannan, I just expected more out of him. If a defenseman is going to have zero offensive upside, I expect him to be a dynamite defensive player. I want a nasty streak, top-notch physicality, and the fear of god put in his opponents if they even consider crossing his blueline. Scott Hannan didn't embody any of those qualities and his contract was never justified by the quality of his play during the Colorado portion of his career. Just kidding. Suck it, Winkler. Scott Hannan brought such solid, steady, RELIABLE presence to the blueline that he often best exemplified the "If you don't notice him, it's because he's just doing his job" axiom. This was true throughout his time in an Avs jersey and while any points he scored were merely icing on the world's most boring cake, his reliability will be greatly missed moving forward. Largely loved by his new fan base, it saddens me his most recent former team's fans seemed to forever under appreciate the work he did do because their expectations clouded reality. I, for one, already do greatly miss the attributes Scott Hannan brought to the Avalanche blueline and hopefully we can find someone just as solid in the very near future. Not so much a report on his solid play this year as my goodbye to one of my favorite Avalanche defenders in recent memory but you'll all get over it.
Fun Fact: Hannan missed just two games with the Avalanche over four years.
The Scott Hannan Drinking Game: Drink when Dan brings up his contract Drunk potential: Not so much now, but there were days...
What We Said Last Year: Over the first half of the season he was excellent at shutting down opposing players and he even tossed in some offense. Like Quincey, as the season wore on his offense disappeared and his defense became suspect. Since they were partners I'm not sure if one of them started sucking so the other looked bad trying to cover for him or what.
2010 Cap Hit: $4,500,000
2011 Status: UFA
Outlook for Next Season: Hannan quietly improved as his tenure with the Avalanche went on. Or, perhaps they just figured out how to use him better, as his ice time dropped a bit each and every year of that 4-year deal. That contract is off the books now, so we'll all need to find something new to bitch about.
Next Up: Milan Hejduk
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Hannan suffered on the Avs from being the top defensive dman when at best he’s a #3-4 guy. And his defensive prowess has certainly helped the Caps in their Cup run…
Jonas Holøs- Putting the Ø in defense since 2010! Putting the Ø in øffense since Game 7.
lol'd
If Hannan is your 4th best defenseman, your defense is likely outstanding.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on May 24, 2011 8:02 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was thinking the same thing. Hannan’s probably not a #, but I think he’s a real solid #2.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 8:26 AM MDT up reply actions
This is where I have him, as well.
I’ll never understand the hate that befell Hannan in his time here. Just dumb.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on May 24, 2011 8:27 AM MDT up reply actions
I understand some of it. There was a time (and it really wasn’t all that long ago) when the Avs were hard-pressed against the cap and Hannan was making a lot of money. He was overpaid and when a team is up against the cap and players are overpaid their performance should be scrutinized a bit.
But Hannan (and Quincey) also took on the toughest roles for the team, and actually did a pretty good job. in last years playoffs they took on the Marleau-Heatley-Thornton line and completely shut them down. It was Pavelski, Clowe and Setoguchi that did in the Avs. He also did a good job in his playoff series against the Wild a few years back.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions
I believe it was the $$ that powered most of the haters, 4.5 for what he did was way too much. 3.5 would be ok.
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Nah, it’s not dumb, it’s an informed opinion that I developed after watching nearly all of the games played in his time with the Avs. Dumb would be saying he was awful without ever seeing him play. Dumb is going on and on about David Koci and how awful he is when he has hardly any affect or influence on whether or not the Avs win or lose. That’s dumb.
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions
Agree wholeheartedly
Whenever I see Hannan play, I often think, “That’s definitely a #2 out there.”
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t get it.
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Bertuzzi.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions
who?
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Suck it, Winkler
This was 1st heard when Pat Morita returned to the Happy Days set after Henry told Pat he’d never work again.
(I bet this is the first time Dan has heard a joke that played on the fact that him and The Fonz share a last name)
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 7:47 AM MDT reply actions
(I bet this is the first time Dan has heard a joke that played on the fact that him and The Fonz share a last name)
I bet you’re right.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
There’s a whole set of MHH readers who ready that comment and went
“Who the hell are ‘The Fonz’ and Pat Morita?”
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 8:38 AM MDT up reply actions
We lawn defenders need to remain vigilant against their itinerant feet.
"It's all about the $"
by Busted Twigg on May 24, 2011 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions

Americanario makes Journey reference. Tempestuous Binary listens to Don't Stop Believing. Milan Hejduk scores goal. You know what must be done. DSB Record: 1-3-0
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, aiming squarely for the groin.
by Tempestuous Binary on May 24, 2011 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions
That took me a second…and then made me chuckle out loud (COL?)
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
Such an amazing show
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
The fact that Scott Baio and my uncle Henry were reunited was pure genius.
I can’t get Bob Loblaw’s Law Blog out of my head.
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
yep, really miss AD
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 24, 2011 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Bob Loblaw may be the best TV character name of all time.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions
I loved that show...
I should pull out the DVD’s again.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Just in case anyone was curious, “Bob Loblaw’s Law Blog” is mentioned at least once per day by someone at my law school.
Mile High Hockey: A lot more fun to watch than the Avalanche.
by Joe Dunman on May 24, 2011 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m drafting a sternly-worded letter in response to your very rude comment.
Mile High Hockey: A lot more fun to watch than the Avalanche.
Will it be done within 19 days?
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on May 24, 2011 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Done within 19 days. Ha. You do realize who is drafting this law suit, right? The statute of limitations will run out before he gets it done.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 25, 2011 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Hey, there is a Retro TV station now a days.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
The Fonz
The who now? Do you mean Barry Zuckerkorn?
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions
I still think people looked at Hannan and saw his raping of Peter Forsberg in the playoffs as the type of defender the Avs were getting. Unfortunately, post-lockout rules didn’t allow that kind of raping. It’s the same thing that made Adam Foote less effective than during his 1st tenure with the Avs (that, and Adam Foote got slow as hell as age took over).
Hannan was still a good stay at home defender. Not flashy, but effective. I wish the Avs would have a few more of those instead of trying to rely on a bunch of puck movers who couldn’t take a body if their lives depended on it
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Good thing they have Jonas Holøs who is that type of player.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 8:26 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you ever see Hannan play the puck up close? The look on his face is sheer panic.
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions
I don’t remember which game it was, but I remember the play vividly.
My wife and I were both watching a play develop in which an Avs defenseman jumped into the play and was about to get a clear shot off against the goalie in a very tight important game (I think this was in San Jose when we lived there). The crowd gasped in horror and at the same time we both noticed the defensman was Hannan. We had this split-second telepathic connection where we both we started giggling at the thought of everybody in the building being worried about the possibility of Scott Hannan sniping a shot.
Of course he shot the puck wide it caromed off the glass and exited the zone causing a scoring opportunity the other direction, and my wife and I couldn’t stop giggling
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions
the only points he must get are second assists and goals that were going wide and bounce in off of someone.
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions
I liked Hannan a lot
It’s just too bad people wanted him to be physical, and score goals, and carry everyone on his back and justify his salary
This would be an awesome post if I was 100% sure that it was sarcastic.
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions
I'll be completely honest
I want the Avs to bring back Hannan just because no one brings out vintage Dan quite like Hannan, and I love vintage Dan.
(Also, this is why I think we should un-ban Thomas/DetAvs under the condition that Dan doesn’t have to feign politeness towards him)
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
vintage Dan

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
That contract is off the books now, so we’ll all need to find something new to bitch about.
Paging Paul Stastny. Paul Stastny to the courtesy phone.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I thought he was being traded. Give us a 4th liner and a bag of pucks to get that boat-anchor of a contract off our books.
"It's all about the $"
by Busted Twigg on May 24, 2011 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Half of him is headed to the Leafs, the rest of his teeth are heading to Montreal
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Good. I was starting to worry about the salary cap.
"It's all about the $"
by Busted Twigg on May 24, 2011 8:46 AM MDT up reply actions
So, he’s a UFA, and we need a strong stay at home guy to pair with EJ. The only way it could be better is if there was some kind of sexual innuendo that could be made from his name.
I wonder how badly the bridges were burned.
"It's all about the $"
If they brought the Hobbit back for a decent rate AND Flash was healthy that’s pretty awesome.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Except Flash is going back to Washington
=x
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on May 24, 2011 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions
Got a source, or are you just stirring up trouble?
"It's all about the $"
by Busted Twigg on May 24, 2011 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions
:( I'm still a sad panda since you told me this.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions
I’d love to bring Hannan back for $3.5M/season (enough to win my bet with Dan AND get a solid upgrade to our defense.)
Johnson/Hannan
Quincey/Liles
O’Byrne/ Wilson, Holøs, Elliott, Hunwick,
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions
Hunwick was playing better at the end of the year, I’d give him some time next season. Besides who on the avs can do what he does?
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions
I doubt you see Hannan as an Av again. But I could see Brewer.
"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Hensick stats: 13 games, 1g/2a/3p THOMAS/DETAVS: I WANT MY $20
I can’t believe that guy is only 32, he’s been around forever
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, Hannan sure showed us when he was traded and the defense went from “sucks” to “sucks.” Sure, you could make the case that it went to “really sucks.” But the truth is that the defense didn’t give up all that many more goals a game after he left (Valentine’s Day be damned notwithstanding). When Hannan was there, the Avs were giving up 3, 4, 5 goals a game and won when the offense clicked. After his trade, the Avs were giving up 3, 4, or 5 goals a game and couldn’t score to save their lives. Are you telling me that Hannan’s crisp clearing passes were what was funding the offensive game?
Don’t get me wrong. Hannan was fine. I just don’t feel the seller’s remorse. Part of his job was to clear the zone and he kinda sucked at that (along with everyone else on the team). Yes, the deal was a lose for Sherm. But I’m still pretty meh over Hannan.
by Andy_ on May 24, 2011 8:50 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Because goaltending plays no role in getting scored on.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on May 24, 2011 8:52 AM MDT up reply actions
I think the girls on 16 and pregnant could use bad goaltending as a legitimate argument for a reason as to why they got scored on.
October. When?
Shot quality
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Bad rebound control.
"It's all about the $"
by Busted Twigg on May 24, 2011 8:58 AM MDT up reply actions
Luck.
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 9:10 AM MDT up reply actions
No way they can sustain that shooting percentage
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions
unreal corsi #’s.
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions
But the truth is that the defense didn’t give up all that many more goals a game after he left (Valentine’s Day be damned notwithstanding).
I think someone’s forgetting the streak of “Avagadro’s number of games played while giving up 3 or more goals” the Avs had after Hannan left.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Avs with Hannan in the lineup: 13-9-1 (.587pt ) 3.61 GF 3.09 GA
Avs with Johnson in the lineup: 4-17-1 (.204 pt %) 2.18 GF 3.81 GA
Avs with Liles in the lineup: 29-39-8 (.434 Pt) 2.81 GF 3.49 GA
Avs with O’Byrne in the lineup: 23-35-6 (.406 Point%) 2.70 GF 3.50 GA
Avs with Quincey in the lineup: 10-7-4 (.571 pt%) 3.43 GF 3.24 GA
Avs with Cumiskey in the lineup: 7-10-1 (.417 pt %) 2.9 GF 3.8 GA
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 24, 2011 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions
and that Hannan has the best offensive skills of the bunch
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 24, 2011 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Not at all. Hannan was one of, if not THE, best defensemen on a team that really, really, really, really sucked defensively. Meh. I think you are forgetting that the only reason the Avs won any games this year is because there were a lot of games in the first half that they scored four or more goals.
I’m a little surprised at all the love Hannan is getting here. He’s not really a guy I like to watch play hockey and I’m not sure he’s a big factor in helping your team win games.
I think his pros are that he’s reliable and durable. He is good positionally and makes sound positioning decisions. Because he’s so commited to playing his position by the book he’s rarely beat by a bad pinch or line change.
I think his cons are that he’s a non-factor on offense and when he gets a wide open shot he misses the net like no pro player I’ve ever witnessed. He’s not particularly quick and is making up for it more and more with positioning (see Foote). He’s conservative to the point of hurting his linemates because he will shift early because he knows his clock is up. On many occasions he’s abandoned the rush to make the conservative line change. In the playoffs he cost Washington a game because he did this on a long change without considering the play in front of him. He’s part of the defensive core that couldn’t clear a puck to save their lives in two disasterous seasons in 2008 and 2010. His straight legged, face to the boards backand clearing attempt highlight can sum up his Avalanche career. I absolutely abhore is dispassion on the ice. He’s not angry and he’s not excited..he’s just there. That level of passion is basically how I feel about him as a player. Not excited to watch him, not exactly blaming him for most of what went wrong either. Hannan is a guy at Vegas down to his last $20 and holds on a 16. He’s safe to his teams detriment.
I'll keep this brief.
when he gets a wide open shot he misses the net like no pro player I’ve ever witnessed.
I’d argue that Blake gives him some competition, but the strength of Blake’s shot made up for it.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
I get that it’s an anecdotal comment, but Hannan’s best single-season shooting percentage of 5.8% is less than Blake’s career shooting percentage of 6.2%. Hannan’s career shooting percentage is 3.6%.*
His crappy shooting was the least of my complaints. Much worse is his utter inability to complete a pass to a teammate from inside his own zone. Even Caps fans, who generally seemed to really like him, mentioned that he had a tendency to lead the team in icings. He’s a turnover machine.
*Kyle Quincey’s career shooting percentage, for what it’s worth, is 3.2%. Ryan O’Byrne’s is 2.1%. JML’s is an even 7%, and Kyle Cumiskey’s is 7.3%.
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions
From #23 going forward must suck!
Only 3 players evaluated so far on the 2nd-to-worst team in the NHL have received less than a B-. That includes two bottom-6 forwards who had to play above their talent at times because of injuries, and a defenseman who got injured early in the season and only played 18 games*.
I fear the worst for Koci, Stoa, Wilson, Hunwick, Foote, Cody Mac, and Elliott.
*This same defenseman had more TOI/game and more points than the subject of this evaluation, was a key part of both the PK and the PP, yet received a C- compared to Hannan’s B+.
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 10:25 AM MDT reply actions
*This same defenseman had more TOI/game and more points than the subject of this evaluation, was a key part of both the PK and the PP, yet received a C- compared to Hannan’s B+.
**Both of whom were with the team when they were actually winning games
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
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by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions
So why does Hannan get a grade-and-a-half higher than Cumiskey?
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions
I actually assumed the C- was Quincey to be honest. And I have no idea.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
It actually looks like Quincey hasn’t been graded yet either.
Sacco got a C- as well.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Done by player numbers so Quincey’s is… Monday, I believe?
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions
Right. That’s why I specifically wrote that only 3 players have been given lower than B- so far.
I figured you knew it wasn’t Quincey since we’re only at #22.
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions
Much like the writer’s at this site, you’re giving me way too much credit here.
(Boom! Roasted)
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions
The grades were picked out of a hat. It’s all designed just to piss you guys off.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions
*high five*
We’ve been doing a good job.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
I’m not pissed off at all, just pointing out the way things are heading, that’s all.
I give all the credit in the world to the folks who generate the new content, because the rest of us lazy bastards wouldn’t have anything to riff off of without it.
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions
I’m not pissed off at all
That’s cuz you haven’t seen Holøs’ grade yet!
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
Trouble maker.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Me? NEVER!
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions
Pffffttt
Yeah, right.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions
this is a blog, Dan, not a rocket science thesis
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 24, 2011 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions
Uh Oh, is GrandPapa Smurf cranky?
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions
No, there’s Beachie and GL and Tex and Skater and Andie…
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions
not cranky. just in need of my ovaltine
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 24, 2011 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Here you go Fanboy

2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: Hugging the cap floor and waiting on their revenue share, because hey, billionaires need welfare too!

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on May 24, 2011 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Anything but an Ø would be a massive disappointment.
Because....fuck the Red Wings!
by StiflersMom on May 24, 2011 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
a B+ is very high for Hannan. Are you saying that he had a near perfect season for the avs? If so, his +/- should have been a lot higher than 6. Good defensive players on good teams (see this guy: http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar.com/hockey/player.cgi?1496) traditionally rack up big positives on the ole p/m. Hannan was an average defender on team that was scoring at an insane rate then the well dried up (mostly concussed up) look at the results, even when they won, it’s was a high scoring game. http://www.forecaster.ca/thestar.com/hockey/schedule-regular.cgi?col&x_seasonID=209&x_date=all
Hannan is no higher than a C+ at best.
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 11:49 AM MDT reply actions
Wanna fight about it?? Put up your dukes, put up your dukes!!

Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
I think I could take a baby. Sorry, I put up my reasons, but a B+ seem to me to be a grade just off of a career year, and he didn’t have one. Don’t think of this as hate, if the avs re-signed him (or resign him, I’m not picky) I wouldn’t be put out, unless it was at 4.5, he shouldn’t be paid more than quincey at this point.
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Sarcasm meter. Turn it up.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought you disagreed with my sediment. This crappy weather is throwing off everything, I guess my SM included.
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought you disagreed with my sediment.
That’s just dirty.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: Hugging the cap floor and waiting on their revenue share, because hey, billionaires need welfare too!
stupid mobile phone spell checker……KHANNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Like a Bettman!
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: Hugging the cap floor and waiting on their revenue share, because hey, billionaires need welfare too!
by Hopfenkopf on May 24, 2011 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Need to get a unipron on this kid. Look at those eyes. You might beat him, but you’ll be in the hot tub for the rest of the night.
"It's all about the $"
by Busted Twigg on May 24, 2011 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Interestingly enough, Hannan came into my Whole Foods yesterday with his toddler son. I guess since it was his last year of contract he knew he might not stay in DC, but it still caught me a bit off guard.
Unfortunately I didn’t get a chance to ask him what he thought about playing out east.
"With the 2nd overall pick, the Colorado Avalanche are proud to select... from the New Jersey Devils, Zach Par--what? What do you mean it doesn't work like that?"
by Guitarpick8120 on May 24, 2011 11:53 AM MDT reply actions
Awe
I felt bad for him when I watched 24/7. Not as bad as Hendricks. That one sucked.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
I guess since it was his last year of contract he knew he might not stay in DC
Apply this to our earlier conversation, Sandie. I think it’s the exact same situation.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions
I know. sigh
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I would love to have Hannan back. I think people underestimated his contributions considerably. But then I’m a Hobbit fan girl…even if he did rub up against my boobs when we were taking a picture in Vegas.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 12:11 PM MDT reply actions
doesn’t everyone?
I am the most humble blogger of all time
by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 24, 2011 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions
I was going to say “if I had a nickel for every time that happened…”
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Pretty sure you missed a few decimal spaces there, Mike.
2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: Hugging the cap floor and waiting on their revenue share, because hey, billionaires need welfare too!
Yes, more than a few. Especially if you include the gawkers.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
One?
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
I’m one-upping the competition. I’ve got dimes!
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
It was pretty funny how obvious he was about it. Usually guys try to be at least a little sly.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Really? They don’t with me. They just… gawk? I think that’s the best word. Then try to “accidentally” do it. LOL
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
“Accidentally” = exactly. He didn’t try to make it seem like an accident.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Hahaha
I know what you mean, I’ve had those too. Seems silly to me…
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 2:51 PM MDT up reply actions
According to men anyway.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly, it’s still on purpose.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah but what is it if the girl rubs her boobs on you instead of the other way around?
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
I'll answer my own question
Awesome!
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
oh yeah, I may be dumb when it comes to women, but even I can figure that one out.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
Probably one of our few bright spots
I know many folks were amped up when Flash performed so well after the trade, but what were the long term effects of the deal? To sort of quote Bill Murray in Stripes, the Avs essentially lost their big toe. Hannan had finally became the force we had hoped he would be early in the season. Steady. Bruising. Positionally sound. Infuriating to play against. Probably one of the top 3 or 4 defensive defensemen in the league.
Injuries forced the Avs to panic, trading their only solid defensive defenseman for a stop gap forward with a medical history. And I think that, more than anything this past season, led to their downfall. I would give Hannan an A. And watching the Avs stumble around the ice without their big toe late in the season was just painful.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
By the time the Avs traded him on Nov. 30, the team had given up 70 goals in 23 games. Ouch. 3.04 goals per game. After he left, the team gave up 217 goals in 59 games. Ouch again. 3.68 goals per game.
Sucked to sucked more. Did trading Hannan make the defense worse? Sure. But they weren’t anything to write home about before he left, either. I just can’t bring up a whole lot of passion for Hannan. Would I slit my wrists if the Avs re-signed him? No. Would I jump for joy and buy a round for the bar? No. I’d be a hell of a lot happier if they got a discount for him and used the rest of the money (plus some of the cap room) to make the defense a whole lot better.
Psst
Turn up your sarcasm meter. I almost bit, but the phrase “infuriating to play against” tipped me off.
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought that “Bruising” was a pretty huge stretch as well.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions
This is what got me:
Probably one of the top 3 or 4 defensive defensemen in the league.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 24, 2011 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Said in my best Rosanne Rosannadanna voice in order to further isolate myself from the youth of there here web dealy.
He, Andy … you’ve got this thing hanging from the end of your nose! And frankly, it’s disgusting. I mean, like, it’s sort of loose, and dangling, and a little bit wet … I thought I was going to die! So I, Rosanne Rosannadanna, say …..
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 5:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Rosanne Rosannadanna
People called me that when I was a kid…cuz of the hair. Thank god for styling products.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 25, 2011 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Not gunna lie – I had to look that up on wikipedia.
Shut up – I was born in the 90s.
I’ll get off your lawn now.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
Early SNL was pretty damn funny.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 25, 2011 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Oh man....
It took every bit of self control I have not to burst out laughing at that here in the office. I’m crying. I love her SO much. Thank you for the linkerage!!
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 25, 2011 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions
It was freaking hilarious. Nothing since has compared, IMO.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 25, 2011 1:26 PM MDT up reply actions
But how many defenseman in the league would make a .64 GAA difference? Heck, now I’m leaning more towards an A+.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions
It's like a grade school field day
Ribbons for everyone!
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Ouch. 3.04 goals per game. After he left, the team gave up 217 goals in 59 games. Ouch again. 3.68 goals per game.
That’s an enormous difference. The entire NHL spectrum is only 1.2 GA/G. Over the course of a season that’s an extra 52-53 goals against in a season.
Not that your point isn’t valid, the Avs D sucked before, and sucked even worse after he left, but your stats are more an indictment of everyone else than Hannan.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
I think the bottom line when the Avs pulled the trigger on that trade was two-fold. One, they had to get a winger due to injuries and anemic depth cause by not giving a rat’s ass during the offseason. Two, they had decided that they weren’t going to re-up Hannan after this season, and that they needed to get something for him while they could. Having said all of that, sadly, as porous, infuriating to watch, and overall meh as he was, he may have been our best defensive defenseman this past season.
Man, did we ever suck. Because of Yip.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Quincey was injured about a week or two after that trade, I’d say that (losing Hannan and Quincey) and having Adam Foote lose a 1/4 a step every ten games or so is what did in the defense. Liles and O’Bryne were killing it when the focus wasn’t on them and they can do there own thing, Wilson isn’t/wasn’t the player he was when he first arrived, Hunwick was the worst defence man in the league for a month or two (It’s sad that I’m not using hyperbole when I write that) when he got here and all the other defensemen were non factors. mix in horrible goaltending and injurys on the front line and you’d think this team would have got the first overall pick.
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Agree
I think (and have always thought) that the drop in D was because of the loss of Both Hannan & Quincey within about 6 games of each other. You just can’t take the top pairing defensemen off a team already a little shallow in D and expect them to perform.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions
I forgot all about the imaginary awesomeness of Kyle Quincey.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions
He’s good defensively, I’ve given up on him scoring more than 10 points in a year, isn’t quincey who you wish Hannan would be?
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Nope. Quincey during the first 3 months or so of the 2009-2010 season is who I hoped Hannan would be. Since then? I just wish he could skate, hit, pass, handle the puck, play defense … generally resemble an NHL player at all.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 2:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Still has nearly the best Advanced NHL stats of the team last season. And the team was noticeably worse when he was out.
I think you’re just plain wrong on Quincey. What gets me is that last year, I thought he would occasionally go for the big hit and take himself out of position, but everyone loved it. This year he was much more positionally sound, and everyone was all over him.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions
He will get to really showcase himself if he’s paired with EJ. Should be a good chance for both of them to really develop their games.
I'll keep this brief.
I think I’m excited for that pairing more than any. I think they’ll be great together.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree, which means they won’t get paired up. They should be of course but it’s going to be something nuts like Barie with EJ. I need a better attitude.
I'll keep this brief.
I think the loss in defensive quality was not just an issue with the defense itself. It was also due to the forward group falling into the injury abyss. That left a goalie (who wasn’t trying very hard, maybe) left out to dry by the defense (which wasn’t very good to start with and was worse with the trades and injuries) who weren’t getting any help from the forwards (who, let’s be honest, were having trouble enough playing forward, much less defense). A real team effort.
Corsi caca. So, are you trying to tell me that Greg Mauldin and Daniel Winnik are world beaters and that Duchene, Stats, Hejduk, Jones and Flash are all relatively shit?
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Mauldin played, what, 10 games, so there’s small sample size there, but yeah, he played well. Dan Winnik was superb this last season, so that’s not much of a surprise.
And there’s more to it than just looking at rel Corsi. It’s not a vacuum. Obviously, Stats, Duchene and Hejduk were playing against a lot tougher competition (which is why I included a ton of stats in there, not just the Rel Corsi)
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions
I think Mauldin had 29, if I remember correctly.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions
And he played pretty well when he was up too. So it’s not a surprise he has good numbers.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Dan Winnik was superb this last season,
This.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions
You forgot to type “is incorrect.”
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I thought that was the ultimate gauge since it was the column highlighted and used to sort in your link. If it isn’t, what is? And, imo, Winnik wan’t superb. He was decidedly meh. A third line winger who absolutely refused to ever finish checks. According to your chart, Ryan fricken Stoa was more effective last season than Flash.
I must again revert to “corsi caca.” Until I see evidence that shows otherwise.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions
I have to highlight one column, so I chose that one. There’s a ton of stats in there that paint the complete picture.
And I will have evidence in an hour or 2, which is bookmarked at home.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions
My pictures are painted on pure observation against my own expectations. Quincey = major disappointment. I don’t think corsi captures him falling down, standing around, and generally looking disinterested.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions
There isn’t a stat for taking out your own goalie on a 2-on-1 against though.
Have we drafted Larsson yet?
-1
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 25, 2011 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I must again revert to "corsi caca." Until I see evidence that shows otherwise
Evidence up, in a fanpost
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 25, 2011 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
“Nearly” is sort of a weasel word. And isn’t that a really small sample size for Quincey?
When we were winning, we weren’t winning with defense. We were winning by, surprisingly enough, having the highest-powered offense in the league. The offense dried up after Hannan got traded and Quincey got hurt, which is why we have a winning record with those guys in the lineup. Their continued presence in the lineup wouldn’t have prevented our losing record*.
*I feel qualified in making this statement only because I got lucky and won the preseason prognostication contest. #humblebrag.
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions
"Nearly" is sort of a weasel word. And isn’t that a really small sample size for Quincey?
Isn’t BiB judging him on a small sample size?
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions
I never want to be in a position to speak for BiB, but I think BiB is judging him on the small sample size of this season and the larger sample size of his “meh” last 2/3 of last season.
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions
I never want to be in a position to speak for BiB
When we were in that position back in HS, because I was too blotto to speak coherently, you just dropped me off on my front lawn. F’er.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions
When we were in that position back in HS,
Hellenistic Sparta?
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 4:01 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I refuse to look that up.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 4:01 PM MDT up reply actions
It’s many syllables for: ‘old’
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 24, 2011 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions
I think Quincey was better than “meh” for the last 2/3 of last season.
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions
I understand that, I was just trying to translate from BiB to JiB.
Mr. Fuji, the devious ways that you put in my mind will come to use.
by Dan Winkler on May 24, 2011 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions
It will be difficult. I do not speak corsi.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 24, 2011 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Totally agree with you.
Quincey had the largest grade disparity because I graded him high and I think everyone else dropped him pretty low. I thought he was playing pretty solid defense.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on May 24, 2011 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions
You and I had him fairly close.
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 24, 2011 7:06 PM MDT up reply actions
I wasn’t far off either. It was Brett and DDC. Haters.
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on May 25, 2011 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Damn them
Because 30 is different than 20 and 34 is different than 27.
Dupuis est un Des Boys.
by Sandie Gauthier on May 25, 2011 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions
3.04 would have put them just ahead of Columbus and up to 5th worst in the league. Better than worst in the league. I guess. They would have been second-to-last in the Western conference instead of last. Not really so enormous of a difference.
Not in rankings, but 2/3 a goal is still a huge difference. It’s just the Avs D was so bad the last 1/2 the year
Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on May 24, 2011 7:45 PM MDT up reply actions

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