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Should the Avs Consider Moving SoS???

As one of my favorite Avs skaters, it’d be tough to see it happen, but is there a possibility the Avalanche will seek out a suitor for Paul Statsny this summer? As the team continues to rebuild, and stay near the cap floor, it certainly could be an option worth pursuing this summer given the depth at center on the Avalanche. Colorado’s primary need this summer is to address the team’s goaltending situation but they could also look to add some help at left wing, and perhaps adding some size on defense/prospects in the system. The Avs could also use a power forward capable of scoring 30-40 goals a season to replace Chris Stewart’s production.

Plenty of teams are poised to make bids on UFA Brad Richards this summer. Richards will likely command a little more than Stastny’s $6.6 million salary next season; a contract that will have 3 years remaining heading into Stastny’s prime. Stastny’s steep price tag may make it difficult for some clubs to make a pitch, but he’d be a very valuable commodity for any club to say the least. Stastny is one of the league’s premier playmakers, and although he had an off-year last season, he was still able to post 22 goals and 35 assists in 74 games played.

Certainly the Avs wouldn’t move Stastny unless they’re adding depth, a proven sniper or a number one goaltender although the goaltender may be found in this year’s free agent class (come on Bryzgalov!). I thought it’d be fun to play GM for a sec and lay out some different trade scenarios.

Star-divide

Toronto

Toronto is hungry for a number one center and GM Brian Burke has been known to make some crazy deals (e.g. Kessel trade). The Leafs have some nice assets in their system, but desperately need a center like Stastny to help players like Kessel succeed. The Leafs will likely try to sign free agent center Brad Richards this summer, but if that shouldn’t come to fruition, they’ll look to make a trade to find their guy.

The Leafs will likely put defenseman Mike Komisarek on their trade block, and wouldn’t blink to move a draft pick for a player of Stastny’s caliber. If I’m moving Stastny to Toronto, however, I’d like to see some other scenarios play out – a nice package that would include a combination of draft pick(s), Nazem Kadri, Nikolai Kulemin, Keith Aulie, and/or Luca Caputi. The best deal in my opinion would be Nikolai Kulemin & Keith Aulie in exchange for Paul Stastny. Kulemin is a big-bodied left winger that plays well in both ends of the ice. He skates well and scored 30 goals and added 27 assists this past season for the Leafs. His work ethic and attitude would make for a great addition to our Avs squad.

Aulie is a physical specimen at 6’6", 217 lbs. He’s still trying to fill out his body and find some extra coordination, but the guy has the promise and potential to be a solid shut-down defender. Aulie played in 40 games last season with the Leafs scoring 2 goals and was -1. He’ll turn 22 years old in June.

Nazem Kadri would be a nice addition as well, but the Avs have plenty of smaller skaters similar to Kadri. He has some very nice upside but his size and position wouldn’t make sense for the Avs.

Rangers

The Rangers are another team that could use a boost at center next season. They’re rumored to be interested in Richards as well but they have limited cap space which may make it difficult to even be considered as a trade partner with the Avs for Stastny. If they are able to clear cap space this offseason, the Rangers have some decent assets they could dangle in a deal for Stastny namely Ryan Callahan, Marc Staal, Michael Sauer, Chris Drury, Artem Anisimov, and (cough) Wojtek Wolski. I’m sure the Rangers would love to move Drury and Wolski because of their big contracts and inability to live up to those contracts. The amount in which they’re being paid, however, make them unlikely to even be considered by Avs management this offseason. Sauer’s breakout season and his low cap hit ($500k) make him an unlikely candidate to be traded by the Rangers.

The most likely scenario would be for the Rangers to move defenseman Marc Staal ($3.975 million cap hit – 5 years) and Ryan Callahan (RFA) in a deal for Stastny and another serviceable player such as TJ Galiardi or Kyle Cumiskey. Staal is a solid shut-down defender with great size and has the ability to contribute offensively. Callahan is a hard-nosed grinder that had a breakout season this year with the Rangers scoring 23 goals, 25 assists in 60 games played. Callahan would be an upgrade over Galiardi and would likely command a little more than the $2.3 million he made last season.

Washington

Washington has some depth at goal and could look at moving one of Semyon Varlamov, Michal Neuvirth or Braden Holtby this offseason. They also have a Russian left winger that has come under scrutiny the past few postseasons in Alex Semin but has a history of lighting the lamp during the regular season. It’s no secret the Avs need a goaltender, and if they can’t find one via free agency, perhaps Washington would make for a trading partner??? Sherman and company completed a nice deal last fall for Tomas Fleischmann so there’s already a history between the two clubs.

Here’s another team that we could send Stastny and someone like Kyle Cumiskey to, and pickup Semin and Varlamov or Neuvirth. Both goaltenders possess a lot of upside and will be only 23 years old at the start of next season. Varlamov is a RFA this offseason, and we’ll likely hear his name linked to KHL rumors seeing as how he’s Russian and looking for money. Neuvirth has two more seasons left on his $1.150 million entry-level deal.

If I were to choose, I’d select Neuvirth who had more playing time than Varlamov this past season. Neuvirth played in 48 games this past season posting a 2.45 gaa and .914 sv% while going 27-12-4 with 4 shutouts. Varlamov on the other hand played in 27 games going 11-9-5 with a 2.23 gaa and .924 sv% with 2 shutouts. Varlamov did miss quite a few games to injury, and as an Avs fan you definitely have to be concerned about something like that. So my best trade scenario would be something like Neuvirth & Semin for Stastny & Cumiskey.

Alex Semin would add a big-time sniper to the Colorado roster - something we could definitely use. His contract next is comparable to Stastny's with a $6.7 million cap hit. He only has one year remaining on this deal. Following this contract, the Avs could hopefully lock Semin up to a 3-4 year deal worth $21 million-$

Semin alongside Matt Duchene … watch out NHL defenders!

Others

Basically every team in the league would love to have a player of Stastny’s caliber. I’m certain if the Avs were to shop him, the Wild, Kings and possibly a few others would make a serious pitch as well. For the Avs to move him, however, they’d need to either add a gifted sniper (e.g. Alex Semin), a number one goaltender or some depth. They’d also have to be sure that either Ryan O’Reilly or Joey Hishon could slide into that second line spot behind Matt Duchene to ensure they’re taken care of down the middle. Both centers look to have that top-six ability, but will have to produce offensively on a consistent basis.

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The best deal in my opinion would be Nikolai Kulemin & Keith Aulie in exchange for Paul Stastny.

No

The most likely scenario would be for the Rangers to move defenseman Marc Staal ($3.975 million cap hit – 5 years) and Ryan Callahan (RFA) in a deal for Stastny and another serviceable player such as TJ Galiardi or Kyle Cumiskey.

Yes please, but not Gali
So my best trade scenario would be something like Neuvirth & Semin for Stastny & Cumiskey.

I’m not a fan of Semin, (that fight last year didn’t help) but I wouldn’t mind it. And it would be cool to have Semin, Seimens, and Johnson on the same team

Still Languishing for Landeskog, but I wouldn't mind Hubs, Couts, or Ryan Nugent-Duchene

by patrit19 on May 26, 2011 2:45 PM MDT reply actions  

I’m not a fan of Semin, (that fight last year didn’t help) but I wouldn’t mind it. And it would be cool to have Semin, Seimens, and Johnson on the same team

haha :)

by tdeucer on May 26, 2011 2:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not everyone gets a trade like the Kessel trade. You got to give some to get some.

Holøs. Helping keep scores 1-Ø since 2010. ©

by AvsSqueek on May 26, 2011 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m not a fan of Semin

TWHS.

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by Tempestuous Binary on May 26, 2011 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

The thought of Stastny playing for the “wild” made me throw up in my mouth.

However Stastny for Staal and Callahan is quite intriguing. What kind of goalies does NYR have in their system below Henrik?

Lundquist+Staal+Callahan for Stastny+Quincey+11th

"Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky. Live like you aint afraid to die and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride."

by Paul X on May 26, 2011 2:46 PM MDT reply actions  

replace quincey with liles and maybe, no one wants Q right now.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m fine with that.

"Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky. Live like you aint afraid to die and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride."

by Paul X on May 26, 2011 4:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

you are out of your

fucking mind if you think the rangers would move staal, lundqvist, or callahan
there is no chance in hell they would move any of them or mcdonagh, sauer, erixon, mcilrath, or stepan so keep dreaming

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by nickmflorin on Jun 6, 2011 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Staal + Callahan for Stastny and Holøs. Make it happen Sherm

Thanks Footer

by Cole D Hamilton on May 26, 2011 2:56 PM MDT reply actions  

Did you know

Al Montoya was traded for a 6th round pick? Ridiculous.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on May 26, 2011 2:57 PM MDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t expect Stats to get traded for anything less than Schneider/Bernier type of young goalie.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on May 26, 2011 2:57 PM MDT reply actions  

The Rangers one was okay, but I say no overall. The Rangers aren’t going to give up that much so I don’t see it happening. I say you keep him.

by Avs_Man on May 26, 2011 3:02 PM MDT reply actions  

Agree

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on May 29, 2011 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Stastny will not move this summer. It might be a different matter at the deadline if Hishon gets some time with the big club and uses it to full advantage to make Stastny expendable.

I wouldn’t be upset seeing Marc Staal in a unipron.

Any Toronto deal begins and ends with Schenn+.

But, the real question is, why are you posting this on MHH? There’s plenty of Stastny trade rumor posts on the interwebs. You are (and by extension, I am) just adding to the clutter. This post also is not sufficiently insane. Where’s the Yip + 3rd for Crosby?

"It's all about the $"

by Busted Twigg on May 26, 2011 3:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Where’s the Yip + 3rd for Crosby?

I forgot to put out the Holos and a 3rd for Mike Greene deal. Save that for the next post!

by tdeucer on May 26, 2011 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow…are you serious?

It’s Yip and a 4th…let’s not overpay here!

by amit916 on May 26, 2011 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Right. Forgot about that concussion thing.

"It's all about the $"

by Busted Twigg on May 26, 2011 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was just about to bring that up. Conditional 4th.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 4:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Off topic PSA.

Beachie is not MIA. Liles just changed his twitter photo.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on May 26, 2011 3:20 PM MDT reply actions  

LOL.

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The Number Zero, aiming squarely for the groin.

by Tempestuous Binary on May 26, 2011 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cute.

Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.

by Cheryl Bradley on May 26, 2011 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

:)

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on May 26, 2011 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Have to thank you for the heads-up, tho. It’s a hot pic.

Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.

by Cheryl Bradley on May 26, 2011 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree. I’ll leave him to you though. But damn! I see why his nickname is “male model”!

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.

by andidee15 on May 26, 2011 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

That’s the least you’ve ever, ever said.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 10:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nikolai Kulemin & Keith Aulie in exchange for Paul Stastny

Ugh, no. Kulemin is overhyped. Aulie is a middle pairing guy.

Marc Staal ($3.975 million cap hit – 5 years) and Ryan Callahan (RFA) in a deal for Stastny and another serviceable player such as TJ Galiardi or Kyle Cumiskey

I would do this. The Rangers wouldn’t.

Stastny and someone like Kyle Cumiskey to, and pickup Semin and Varlamov or Neuvirth

I am not a Semin fan (snicker). He’s not the answer at wing for us — Russian, and has work ethic issues. I’d prefer a smaller deal for one of their 3 goalies, or for one of Nashville’s prospects.

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Hensick stats: 13 games, 1g/2a/3p THOMAS/DETAVS: I WANT MY $20

by thedoctor on May 26, 2011 3:28 PM MDT reply actions  

There’s a few things people need to realize…one, we havn’t hit the current floor yet…and that’s not taking into account if it raises by another 1-4 million…which means we will either need to make a big splash in free agency or aquire a lot more salary back.

by amit916 on May 26, 2011 3:37 PM MDT reply actions  

it’s really not that big. Jones will get a raise, lots of other RFAs to sign. Add a UFA goalie, and it’s pretty close.

"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Hensick stats: 13 games, 1g/2a/3p THOMAS/DETAVS: I WANT MY $20

by thedoctor on May 26, 2011 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that still makes up for the raise in the floor…other than the UFA goalie…

by amit916 on May 26, 2011 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

run it in capgeek, im curious. When I ran it with raises for Jones and RoB (+ a re-signed Flash), it was quite close. like ~3m with a UFA goalie to go (and no top draft pick in the lineup).

"I’m predicting 50pts in the NHL for Hensick next season. Anyone want to put $20 on it?" - DetAvs, Jun 18, 2010 3:45 AM EDT
Hensick stats: 13 games, 1g/2a/3p THOMAS/DETAVS: I WANT MY $20

by thedoctor on May 26, 2011 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hmm, I guess that closes the gap then.

by amit916 on May 26, 2011 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Except

Flash is going back to Washington.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on May 26, 2011 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

How do you guys know this?

"Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky. Live like you aint afraid to die and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride."

by Paul X on May 26, 2011 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t. Apparently Flash didn’t sell his house and went to all the Caps playoff games to, you know, watch his buddies play.

Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.

by Cheryl Bradley on May 26, 2011 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

which is as much reason as someone’s dad mouthing off.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

If ...

A scenario like the one with the Rangers or Caps plays out it’s a non-factor really. Staal’s cap hit is around $4 million while Callahan would command maybe somewhere around $3 next season. If Colorado added one other player, salaries would be pretty close to evening out.

by tdeucer on May 26, 2011 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

There’s still not a good reason to do it. The Avs aren’t going to trade him just for the hell of it. Stastny is the type of player that Colorado needs right now and we’ll only give him up if there is a player coming back that’s better.

by mcarson01 on May 26, 2011 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

$10 says the avs will take toronto’s next two 1sts for finger and komaserek.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Basically every team in the league would love to have a player of Stastny’s caliber.

So… Why do we want to trade him? Everything you’re describing about Stastny is exactly what a rebuilding team needs. I highly doubt the Avs are going to trade that away, just for because it’s fun to make trades.

by mcarson01 on May 26, 2011 3:40 PM MDT reply actions  

Everything you’re describing about Stastny is exactly what a rebuilding team needs.

Except his high salary, and all of his Hishon-at-center-cock-blocking.

"Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky. Live like you aint afraid to die and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride."

by Paul X on May 26, 2011 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

He’s not so much a cock block at LW. Beside this team is going to need a RW too year after next when Hedjuk retires.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

His salary is not an issue because he’s young. It’s actually more of a problem to get rid of his salary at this point.

He’s also not blocking Hishon or anyone from coming up because all centers can play wing.

by mcarson01 on May 26, 2011 4:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also, while Hishon is a decent prospect, there’s no guarantee that he can step in as a top 6 center. The Avs will assume he can’t until he proves he can.

by mcarson01 on May 26, 2011 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also no guarantee that Hishon can jump to the NHL next season. I expect he’ll spend most of the season in LE.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on May 26, 2011 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would be a bit shocked if that is the case, but if he does, well it sounds like Yakupov will be our 2012 1st pick

by avalanchejef on May 26, 2011 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Unless we get a blue chip prospect or something really good and proven, I don’t want any part of this…

by amit916 on May 26, 2011 3:57 PM MDT reply actions  

Any trade involving Stastny will be bad for the Avs. They will get ripped off, I’m certain.

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by BraxtanFILM on May 26, 2011 4:18 PM MDT reply actions  

Attention:

It’s been mentioned before, but Stastny isn’t getting traded until at least the trade deadline next year, there’s no way the avs, who have no incentive to trade him anyway, would chose now, when his value is the least to trade him.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 4:45 PM MDT reply actions  

Agree with that, if we sell him now, we will be selling low, which isn’t good business. We sold Stewart and Shatty when they were going for a premium. However, we got the best player in the trade, which is key. If an offer comes around like that for Stastny, I’m sure the Avs will listen, but I doubt they’re calling around trying to initiation it. Stasnty fits the mold of what we need as a rebuilding team, and we’re looking to acquire more guys like that, instead of selling them.

by mcarson01 on May 26, 2011 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

totally no matter what trade they make, stastny will be the best player involved in it.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Counterpoint:

SoS & Liles for Weber & Suter.

then I woke up.

2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: Hugging the cap floor and waiting on their revenue share, because hey, billionaires need welfare too!

by Hopfenkopf on May 27, 2011 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well as long as we’re throwing out crazy trades how about Stastny, Cumiskey, 11th pick to Buffalo for Ryan Miller?

"If we cannot find a way, we will make one." -Hannibal

by AvalancheRescueDog on May 26, 2011 5:48 PM MDT reply actions  

Bernier!!! You know the Kings are shopping him. Stastny + Liles to LA for Bernier + Johnson!

Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.

by Cheryl Bradley on May 26, 2011 5:52 PM MDT reply actions  

Not sure the ladies here can handle two Johnsons.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on May 26, 2011 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, the USA Olympic team had 2 Johnsons and I was pretty ok with that. And as I remember, they did pretty well. Not perfect though – some dude in #87 screwed it up. Damn him! Or trade him for Yip and a conditional 4th!

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.

by andidee15 on May 26, 2011 7:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Philly’s 3rd is the key to any deal.

The Nuck- losing in the finals again.

by niwotsblessing on May 26, 2011 6:02 PM MDT reply actions  

It’s why I don’t believe any trade rumor unless it contains Philly’s 3rd: it’s too crucial and amazing to pass up!

"With the 2nd overall pick, the Colorado Avalanche are proud to select... from the New Jersey Devils, Zach Par--what? What do you mean it doesn't work like that?"

by Guitarpick8120 on May 26, 2011 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Next Gretzky.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Totally.

2010-2011 Colorado Avalanche: Hugging the cap floor and waiting on their revenue share, because hey, billionaires need welfare too!

by Hopfenkopf on May 27, 2011 4:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking if Stastny is shipped for a goalie, it will probably be with LA. Liles also has one year left on his contract and I’m thinking that the Kings are on his 10 teams in his no-trade clause. Bernier will definitly come to Colorado if that is the case, but could we get Johnson thrown in the deal, too? What about Penner or Brown?

Beware the curse of number 18...

by GeorgeInLimbo on May 26, 2011 6:45 PM MDT reply actions  

Kopitar+Johnson+Doughty+Bernier+Schenn for Stastny+Duchene+Radar+Liles.

Avs get a goalie and two good defensemen, LA get that depth at center they so desperately need.

Win/win for both sides.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on May 26, 2011 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

teehee

Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.

by Cheryl Bradley on May 26, 2011 7:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

No no I am serious. Both teams have their holes filled nicely.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on May 26, 2011 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

But we’ll have 2 Johnsons and they’ll have none. So how can their holes be filled?

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.

by andidee15 on May 26, 2011 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should get Finger back and then trade him to fill those holes.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on May 26, 2011 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Or I suppose we could draft Siemens. That would probably work too.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.

by andidee15 on May 26, 2011 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

If the Kings did that trade, they might as well bend over and get that hole filled cuz they be getting raped hard.

Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.

by Cheryl Bradley on May 26, 2011 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

that’s what she….no I can’t say it.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

1. Liles has 18 teams okayed, 11 teams not.
2. Sigh. It seems my sarcasm above was lost somewhere in translation.

Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.

by Cheryl Bradley on May 26, 2011 7:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

They would have to give us something really good, if we have to take Penner of their hands.

by mcarson01 on May 26, 2011 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

if only the avs could have a penner in their hands. What would any of you do with a a penner in your hands. god damn it, why can’t I get a penner in my hands.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well… Now that you put it that way, we would all be better off with a penner in our hands.

by mcarson01 on May 26, 2011 11:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

If we assume he'll be traded

Which is a ridiculous assumption, but I truly see Buffalo as the most viable option. If Buffalo so chose to sell high on Miller, right now is as high as it can get while his performance last year remains. I am not going to take a random guess as to what it would take, but it might work if Buffalo wanted to build around Stastny.

I just don’t see SoS going for anything but cornerstone goalie. Under that premise, Buffalo has a rather viable and cheaper option in Enhroth, or however you spell it. Buffalo could decide building around a goalie, Hasek and Miller, is no the right way to challenge for a Cup. They could decide that and that is the only way I see a huge goalie coming to Colorado.

If the Avs traded with Washington, I don’t think SoS is part of the deal; they don’t have what it would take to get Stastny. All the other teams with possible goalie options have no alternative aside from the obvious ones: LA mostly.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on May 26, 2011 6:45 PM MDT reply actions  

I really don’t like Miller…he’s good, but I mean for a guy who’s supposed to be one of/the best goalie in the NHL…you’re telling me he can’t steal a round?

He was pretty good this year…7th game not withstanding though…

But I see where you’re coming from…a star for a star…and Stastny not going and a prospect coming back.

by amit916 on May 27, 2011 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Goalies can’t steal rounds. Even when somebody says a goalie stole a game, it’s just a figure of speech that indicates they played really well, but they still had a lot of help in winning the game.

by mcarson01 on May 27, 2011 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

They can steal rounds; they just have to have excellent rebound control and make sure the other team doesn’t get in their heads. Piece of cake.

Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.

by Cheryl Bradley on May 27, 2011 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

The pieces of cake only make Broduer a better goalie.

by MalachiConstant on May 27, 2011 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

The pieces of cake only make Broduer a better rounder goalie
 
I fixed that for you.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 27, 2011 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm caaaaaake.

Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.

by Cheryl Bradley on May 27, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm cupcakes.

by Andy_ on May 27, 2011 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Right, and they also have to score, at least one.

by mcarson01 on May 27, 2011 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree, he can and it’s usually a team that gets it there…but I honestly havn’t seen enough of him to want to ship Stastny away for.

by amit916 on May 27, 2011 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Miller stole several games during last year’s Olympics. Take him off Team USA and there’s no way they make it to the gold medal game!

by tdeucer on May 27, 2011 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Disagree.

Wasn’t Tim Thomas also on that team? And Quick?

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on May 27, 2011 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

He was but that was before his hip surgery and while he played poor.

by amit916 on May 27, 2011 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Take him off Team USA and there’s no way they make it to the gold medal game!

Key word there is TEAM, and without the other skaters, there’s no way they make the gold medal game!

by mcarson01 on May 27, 2011 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

If I'm Sherm

I only trade Stastny for one of two packages: a youngish top pairing defenseman and a young potential #1 goalie, or a youngish #1 goalie and a young potential top pairing defenseman. Otherwise I think the trade is a lateral move.

I don’t see either of those packages being offered up by any other team, so I wouldn’t trade him.

by ExiledAmongYou on May 26, 2011 9:42 PM MDT reply actions  

Marc Staal = youngish top pairing dman. Michal Neuvirth = young potential/already is #1 goalie.

by tdeucer on May 26, 2011 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

True

but I said a package. Those two players play for different teams haha.

by ExiledAmongYou on May 26, 2011 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

We could get Yan Stastny…and ship Yan for Neuvie

by amit916 on May 27, 2011 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

After much consideration, no the avalanche should not consider trading Stastny at this time.

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 26, 2011 11:06 PM MDT reply actions  

Hmmmm…

Nope, not gonna do it…

Wouldn’t be prudent…

Not at this juncture…

by mcarson01 on May 26, 2011 11:26 PM MDT reply actions  

“Neil, packing heat. Bar, ready to die.”

"Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky. Live like you aint afraid to die and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride."

by Paul X on May 26, 2011 11:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Damn!

Jeb was packing heat. Neil was a trained killer.

"Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky. Live like you aint afraid to die and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride."

by Paul X on May 26, 2011 11:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

No. There is no reason for the Avalanche to trade Stastny right now. I know they already have a first line center, but most good teams have more than one good center. His cap hit isn’t too much of a problem because they are barely at the cap floor. Everything going around is from uncredited sources (Eklund and fans) and would make no sense for the Avalanche even if it was real. What I heard was that there was some tire kicking on him at the deadline and that’s it. I guess they might have considered it to acquire a defenseman before the Johnson trade. There is no reason for the Avs to trade him unless you are getting equal talent in return and it also isn’t worth it if you are getting only picks (unless they were high first rounders, but that’s not going to happen).

by Avs_Man on May 27, 2011 10:25 PM MDT reply actions  

From a Toronto perspective
The best deal in my opinion would be Nikolai Kulemin & Keith Aulie in exchange for Paul Stastny.

I’d pack both of their bags and drive them to the airport myself.

Kulemin is good but not that good. He shot at 17% last year, and will likely fall from 30G, more of a 20G guy.

Aulie is huge and 20 years old, but no idea what he’ll become. Looks like a shutdown guy but has only played a limited # of games, too early to tell.

Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.

by nhlcheapshot on May 28, 2011 2:04 PM MDT reply actions  

From an everyone else in the league perspective

Its moronic to think that a “good but not that good” winger who’s only eclipsed 20 goals once and a big unproven d-man are worth the price of a young #1/#2 Center. Stastny negotiations start with Schenn, and thats really all there is to it.

Thanks Footer

by Cole D Hamilton on May 29, 2011 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

October. When?

by Randy Time on May 30, 2011 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

No.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on May 29, 2011 12:00 PM MDT reply actions  

You make a compelling argument. When does your newsletter come out?

Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?

by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 29, 2011 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe it took 100 comments to get the right answer.

Avalanche Shutouts are a powerful Aphrodisiac
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on May 31, 2011 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

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