"Wait and See" attitude and three factors to success in 2011-2012
This next season will be a fresh start for our lost and confused Avalanche team. Opening day will bring a golden opportunity to regain confidence as well as renewed hope for the most loyal fans. But so much of the team's future success is dependent on a "wait and see" kind of attitude that the bar again will be set low for the Colorado Avalanche. However, not all hope is lost. With a little luck next season, and improved individual performances from the young team, playoffs may be on the horizon sooner rather than later. Here are three things that may or break next season.
1. The Health and Production From our Top Wingers
Tomas Fleischmann still hasn't been cleared to play by his doctors but is expected to soon. If he can be healthy enough to play next to Matt Duchene for the majority of next season at the same level of production they had demonstrated in their short stint in 2010-2011, we could be looking at a lot of points for out top line. However, he's a Unrestricted Free Agent so the suits will need to sign him first. Also, the magic between these two top players may not be seen as consistently as Sacco and Sherman would like.
It's a similar situation with Peter Mueller. Where does he stand after this series of concussions? This guy could come back next season and put up 70+ points, or perhaps just as easily, announce his early retirement from hockey altogether.
Joey Hishon is still a prospect that has never played in a real NHL game. That alone is enough reason to remain cautious in pursuing that as an option. Not to mention the head injury he received in Owen Sound Attack's bid for the Memorial Cup. But this kid does have a lot of character and could turn out to be a real stud for the Avalanche. I'm thinking he will, just not next season. I'm thinking the organization will let him play some games in the AHL, using him sparingly. Also, you may see a lot of Joey Hishon in situations where the whole team becomes injured for months at a time, but that almost never happens.
T.J. Galiardi may be the guy you see on the left side of Paul Stastny (barring a trade) come opening day at The Can. He had an disappointing sophomore season, but I doubt Sherman and Sacco have lost all faith in the Calgary native, but I also think they'll be watching him closely this season. T.J. Galiardi is a Restricted Free Agent this off season so we'll have to wait and see how that all pans out.
I'm not so worried about David Jones. The RFA is dependable when he's healthy and is usually helping his team when he's on the ice. We also have a pretty good spot in the draft that could influence the situations on the wings. Gabriel Landeskog may prove to be a good Chris Stewart replacement and is said to be NHL-ready by scouts and coaches.
2. Coach Joe Sacco
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The man behind the bench is in for a make or break season as an NHL head coach. The former Jack Adams Award finalist will take the hot seat after going to the playoffs with the over-achieving Avalanche in 2009-2010, and then leading his bruised and beaten Avalanche to earn a #2 overall draft pick.
As far as the press in concerned, Sacco has the loyalty of the players. In an interview CBS-4 news, Erik Johnson said that Sacco "was one of the best coaches he's played for" since joining the NHL. He added, "I really wouldn't be saying that if it weren't true." When Adrian Dater asked Ryan O'Byrne off-the-record if the players had any ill feelings toward their head coach, O'Byrne insisted Dater record his response and commented confidently on how Coach Sacco was a great coach and how the lackluster play had not been a result of his coaching style.
Criticism did arise in the midst of the Craig Anderson's final days with the club, but who honestly knows what was going on with that ugly situation. It is always a little more difficult to judge those things when money is involved.
Sacco's systems, specifically the specialty teams and team-defense, have also been a concern to some fans. While he can't take all the blame, the difficult thing to address with the Head Coach is how much of the blame he should receive. It may just come down to whether things are going well at the end of the season or if it turns out that its time to stir things up with the team a little. And how his team performs next season may very well be the deciding factor in whether Joe Sacco becomes a perennial head coach in this league or the next Assistant Coach for the Pittsburgh Penguins.
(Side note: Anyone notice Deadmarsh next to Sacco at the final game versus Edmonton? Where was Konowalchuk?)
3. Goaltending
Big "duh" here.
I wouldn't count on seeing Ilya Bryzgalov donning the "A" anytime soon and Tomas Vokoun is 35 years old. I'm not sure anyone is to excited to see Jose Theodore make his return to the Mile High City. With all of the Paul Stastny rumors floating around and John-Micheal Liles entering the final year of his contract, it may turn out that we see Quick, Schneider, or (perhaps the likeliest) Bernier pull goaltender duties for the Avs next season.
At one point in time, I used to care what the name on the back of the jersey was. I wanted someone with a swagger; someone who had proven himself. Now, I just hope they find a guy that can be solid between the pipes for a few seasons. Whether it be through a reasonable trade or through free agency, the Sherman and Sakic need to make this happen. A save percentage over .900 would be nice.
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Obviously there are many other factors that will help determine the success of the Colorado Avalanche next season. But these things are certainly on my mind. I like to think its is on the mind of the guys in the corner offices, too, but as I have already said, the whole organization is kind of a "wait and see" situation. Go Avs.
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Also a Detroit fan =O
Beware the curse of number 18...
by GeorgeInLimbo on May 29, 2011 11:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Coach Sacco: “Ok guys, that Beachnsnowgirl is right over there flashing for you. Get off your dead asses and perform for her!” (I can tell because of the expressions)
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
The Durno stare pretty much gave it away
Still Languishing for Landeskog, but I wouldn't mind Hubs, Couts, or Ryan Nugent-Duchene
nevermind, thats not Durno.
Still Languishing for Landeskog, but I wouldn't mind Hubs, Couts, or Ryan Nugent-Duchene
Nevermind, that is Durno
Still Languishing for Landeskog, but I wouldn't mind Hubs, Couts, or Ryan Nugent-Duchene
by patrit19 on May 31, 2011 8:38 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
You sure?
Beware the curse of number 18...
by GeorgeInLimbo on Jun 1, 2011 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions
It’s Durns. Trust me.
/wipes the drool from chin
Oh, and Detroit? You can stop believin' now.
by Cheryl Bradley on Jun 1, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
I’d have reversed it and put goaltending first, I have the avs finishing outside the top 8, but only because we don’t have any consistant (other than bad) goaltending.
Adam Larsson. When? Ok, if not him how about that Couturier kid?
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 29, 2011 11:46 PM MDT reply actions
but we were able to win all first half with high production and shit goaltending
Thanks Footer
by Cole D Hamilton on May 30, 2011 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions
Turns out that was unsustainable….
"Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky. Live like you aint afraid to die and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride."
Despicable luck
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
To be fair…how would that be if we stayed healthy? Stewart and Gali don’t gut the first line and Mueller and Flash don’t gut the second line… lost most of our top wingers!
That would also be despicable luck. You see, all things in hockey can be quantified by luck, despicibleness, and how many shots you take, especially if it’s jager. This is known as “advanced metrics” and is usually a way for smart people to try and confuse dumb people into believing they know more about hockey than the rest of us, even though they STILL can’t tell you who is going to win the fucking game. Which is why we dumb people keep watching and enjoying, instead of fretting endlessly over things that are not easily quantified by your flawed system.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
by TheRed on May 30, 2011 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
This is a very eloquent response for a dumb guy.
Beware the curse of number 18...
by GeorgeInLimbo on May 30, 2011 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
The Avs are also still deeply in “talent evaluation mode,” which in part explains why they did not stock up on free-agents last season. They needed to see guys like Galiardi, Yip, Porter, and the sundry defensemen play in the NHL. Some did well, some not, some the jury is still out.
The draft remains a mystery, as does our goaltending situation. Since we are still below the cap floor, and Pickard will not be really ready for several years, the signs imho point to Byrzgalov. He is by far the best PROVEN goalie available and fills the biggest hole in the team for years to come. And believe it or not, we have the money to spend.
Draft Larsson + Sign Bryzgalov = Kick ass.
Pickard is playing in the A next year. Maybe get some call up time with the Avs. Sup, gum?
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
why not?
Beware the curse of number 18...
by GeorgeInLimbo on May 30, 2011 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions
He was drafted out of the Canadian junior program and is ineligible until he turns 20 (by dec of that season) or has 4 seasons in. He can play at the NHL level and be sent to the AHL for a conditioning assignment but that is very short term.
Languishing for Landeskog
Dang. Good to know.
Beware the curse of number 18...
by GeorgeInLimbo on May 30, 2011 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly why Bryz is the answer, Pickard has a year left in Juniors, a couple of seasons in the AHL being the Man in net, then a year or two backing up Bryz. That’s how you develop a prospect over time.
Draft Larsson + Sign Bryzgalov = Kick ass.
by niwotsblessing on May 30, 2011 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions
lol. Turn your meter up.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?
I really hope that Sacco has a D system in there somewhere. I hope he’s just waiting for the team to solidify and the same players to be on the ice for more than two hours at a time in order to start teaching them. I also hope there’s an Easter bunny.
But … there’s hope. I remember reading once when that sucker took over coaching the Cowboys after Landry. The rest of the league was kind of laughing about how simple his systems were. The truth was that he had them. It just took a couple of years to get everyone on the same page, get some good players again, and get the systems into the game plan. Then he ran all over the rest of the league. I hope that’s the case for Sacco, too, and it’s not a case of Joe saying, “Defense? Why do we have to play defense?”
I’m interested in the future of Lefebvre. With Sacco sticking around, I’d love to see some veteran coaching know-how in his place.
Yip, Cumisky, and a 7th
by Pacifier Night on May 30, 2011 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions
4. Poison everyone in Vancouver
The 2011 Colorado Rockies - Starring Johnny Herrera as THE ANSWER
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Burgundy Wave - SBnation's Colorado Rapids site
Crystal Palace FC - Eternally a point from relegation (._. )
If you want to make an omelette….
"Sit tall in the saddle, hold your head up high, keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky. Live like you aint afraid to die and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride."
by Paul X on May 30, 2011 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions 5 recs
I’m in Vancouver! :(…
I don’t want to get poisened!
by amit916 on May 30, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Then do something so the evil twins don’t win the Cup.
Draft Larsson + Sign Bryzgalov = Kick ass.
by niwotsblessing on May 30, 2011 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions
The other Wait-n-See
is the next iteration of the CBA. Kronke won’t authorize much spending above the cap floor until that is settled…
Work ethic
This is the major concern in my mind. How many times can you say after the game that ‘we just weren’t ready to play tonight’, before your level of professionalism is called into question?
About as many times as “we didn’t start on time”. So, almost every game this year.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
Maybe the issue isn’t work ethic, it’s lack of cliche variety?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
by Mike @ MHH on May 31, 2011 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
Maxwell
I’m mobile right now and can’t seem to create a fanpost because of this but I wanted to let everyone know that it looks like B Maxwell will not be signed by the Avs. That is one less goalie prospect in the system.
On another note… Hishon’s linemate in OS may be available as Florida has yet to sign him. Deadline is June 1st
Languishing for Landeskog
He actually is already in the Flyers system. Drafted in the third round in 2008.
Beware the curse of number 18...
by GeorgeInLimbo on May 30, 2011 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Garrett Wilson
Shoots: Left
Position:LW
Size: 6’2’’, 199 lbs
-Second behind Joey Hishon for scoring on team (66 GP, 40 G, 46 A, 86 P, +33)
-Captain of the Owen Sound Attack
Beware the curse of number 18...
by GeorgeInLimbo on May 30, 2011 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Wait – we might be able to get Garrett Wilson? I’ve only seen him play 2 games, but I’m impressed. Wouldn’t mind having him around for a LW.
Come on Florida. You don’t really want him that badly anyway!
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
Not happening.
The unaimed arrow never misses
When Olesz skates, empires will fall
by Chris S Roberts on May 30, 2011 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Tallon has consistently shown he is willing to wait to the last minute to sign/resign his players, he’s learned to be very patient with everyone. Remember Gudbranson? Tallon wasn’t going to get cornered into a deal by an 18 year old and an agent. Wilson will be resigned, Tallon doesn’t have the offensive stockpile to work with that would allow him to pass up on a player who scored 36 goals this year. Anyways FLA needs leadership and Wilson was the captain after all.
The unaimed arrow never misses
When Olesz skates, empires will fall
by Chris S Roberts on May 30, 2011 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions
(sigh) yeah, you’re probably right. But if for some crazy reason he isn’t re-signed, well, there’s always Colorado. We kinda need left wings (….ok, so we DESPERATELY need left wings) and he has the character that this organization holds dear. He also has a bit of fight in him and he works well with Hishon. He’d be a great fit in our system.
Cumiskey for Wilson? lol
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
No doubt a line with Wilson and Hishon would be sweet! Hey, maybe we can trade Vokoun at the draft for Hishon and we could experience something awesome for once!
Sounds like Wilson needs to be resigned tonight or he becomes a UFA, so I guess we’re both keeping our fingers crossed.
The unaimed arrow never misses
When Olesz skates, empires will fall
by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions
Tallon didn't seem to be too patient with Grabner
Tallon won’t pass on 36 OHL goals by Wilson but did pass on 34 NHL goals by Grabner. How did Tallon explain this blunder to his fan base?
Any team can draft a player. Great teams develop their players.
I’m okay with this and not surprised. I’d been mostly ignoring goalies this draft but this ups the interest some, even though I’d still bet on us not taking one this time. Weird how with all our goalie prospects we never seem to have any long enough to see them in Cleveland.
Yip, Cumisky, and a 7th
by Pacifier Night on May 30, 2011 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions
It is more to do with contract space than if they are any good. The Avs have more than the average number of goalie prospects and only have so much room on their roster with a 50 contract limit. When you sign a player to an entry level, you essentially lock up a spot for 3 years. You sign too many goalies… You won’t have an opening to sign the one (or two) that pop up down the road.
Languishing for Landeskog
Makes sense then, since in 2012 you have Patterson, Aittokallio, and Millan to choose from for AHL in addition to Pickard.
Yip, Cumisky, and a 7th
by Pacifier Night on May 30, 2011 5:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Survey answer
To continue my point, if the effort consists of playing hard once every week or two, such as some player that you have rumored to go to Toronto (which btw is not going to happen) then the answer to your survey will be D. Only the players can decide if they are going to come to work every game. Sorry, I ran out of sugar coating after February 2011.
You probably shouldn’t do that, people at work will stare.
Available for a 3rd round pick.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 31, 2011 7:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Plus the keyboard doesn’t deserve that.
Walls and sandwiches without sauce on the other hand…
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
That fucking sandwich had it coming eh?
Available for a 3rd round pick.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 31, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
Damn, it is almost lunch time….
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on May 31, 2011 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions
umad, dawg?
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on May 31, 2011 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions

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