Final Grade: David Liffiton
by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 4, 2011 7:00 AM MDT
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Final Grade: INC
Midseason Grade: INC
Position: D
Vitals: 6'2" / 210 / Age 26 / Shoots Left
Drafted by Colorado, 2nd round (63rd overall) of 2003 Draft
Joined Avalanche: Signed as a free agent July 2, 2010
MHH Nicknames: None
Linemates:
- Hannan 1gp 0g 0a 0pt +1
- Holos 1gp 0g 0a 0pt Even
- 7th D 2gp 1g 0a 1pt +2
Avs with Liffiton in the lineup: 2-2-0 (.500 pt%) 3.5 GF 3.25 GA
Ice Time:
- TTOI 7:27 (16th)
- EV 7:27 (16th)
- PP 0:00 (16th)
- PK 0:00 (16th)
Career Highlights: Liffiton scored his first NHL goal on October 30th this year, against the team that had cut him the year before - the Columbus Blue Jackets
Report: Liffiton was an Avalanche draftee but was moved to the Rangers early in his career in the Matt Barnaby deal. After several years in the minors (and just 3 NHL games) the Avs signed Liffiton last summer with an eye toward providing veteran leadership on the Lake Erie blueline. Indeed, Liffiton served as the captain for Lake Erie, but only managed 18 games before going down for the season with a shoulder injury. Liffiton had a brief stint with the Avs early in the season when Adam Foote missed some time. He appeared to be a solid, physical defenseman (2 fights, 17 PiMs and +3 in 4 games) but he was used very sparingly. He was the 7th defensemen in two of his games and had the lowest average ice time of the 16 defensemen the Avalanche used this year (Koci not included).
Fun Fact: David was drafted one spot after David Backes and one spot before Lord Jimmy Howard
The David Liffiton Drinking Game: Drink every time Liffiton gets a shift with the Avalanche Drunk potential: Not very
2010 Cap Hit: $500,000
2011 Status: UFA
Outlook for Next Season: We're going to write pretty much the same thing for all the minor league defensemen with expiring contracts. There are already a bunch of young defensemen under contract next year. It's certainly possible that Liffiton could be re-signed (assuming the surgically repaired shoulder is ready to go). It's just as possible that he moves to another AHL next year.
Next Up: Shawn Belle
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Liffiton is a big, mean LH shooting Dman with a hard shot. In a better world he’d be patrolling the blue line next to EJ next year. Those two would simply abuse opposing forwards.
Jonas Holøs- Putting the Ø in defense since 2010! Putting the Ø in øffense since Game 7.
A better world?
Nothing about Liffiton says he can be an NHL player, and certainly not next to Eric Johnson. What’s this better world stuff? Do you mean a world with other lumbering skaters who don’t pass or shoot very well?
Liffiton’s not even the best Avs’ defenseman named David.
Who drafted the guy? That’s a helluva high pick for a guy who can’t play in the NHL.
I like Liffiton. If I was a Lake Erie fan, he’d be my favorite Monster. But I’m an Avs fan, and I don’t want him anywhere near my team.
Being famous and having a fender bender is weird. You want to be upset but the other drivers just thrilled & giddy that it's you. — Dane Cook
by Dan Winkler on May 4, 2011 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions
3/08/2004—-New York Rangers traded Matthew Barnaby and a 3rd round selection in 2004 to the Colorado Avalanche for Chris McAllister, the rights to David Liffiton and a 2nd round selection in 2004.
It’s too bad that Barnaby didn’t re-sign here with the avs, I remember thinking at the time that he fit in rather well here.
I did a little research, that 2nd was either Dane Byers or Darrin Olver, who is the older brother (and appearently larger brother of) Mark.
The 3rd turned out to be the immortal Denis Parshin (unless there were some more trades, i couldn’t tell from the draft recap).
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 4, 2011 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions
I hate Barnaby when he was here. big time diver. didn’t like to see that at all.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 4, 2011 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions
I know we drafted him, I meant who was the head of scouting who presumably pulled the trigger on him.
I checked out hockeydb for Liffiton’s year, too, and it was a freaking mess. Brian Elliott was the 2nd to last pick in the draft, some studs very late (Enstrom and Byuf in the 8th round, Halak in the 9th, Joe Pavelski in the 7th), a bunch of crap in the 2nd and 3rd, and Shawn Belle as the last pick of the 1st round.
Being famous and having a fender bender is weird. You want to be upset but the other drivers just thrilled & giddy that it's you. — Dane Cook
by Dan Winkler on May 4, 2011 9:24 PM MDT up reply actions
The 1st round of that draft was loaded… and the Avs didn’t have a pick. (Of course it’s hard to complain about it, because we used it to get Rob Blake,)
That draft helped shape the current NHL. Nashville got Weber and Suter. Anaheim got Getzlaf and Philly got Carter and Richards.
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by Jibblescribbits on May 4, 2011 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions
And the avs got David Jones, with their final pick. How lucky. And Brad Richardson. two NHL’ers over 8 picks. Not a banner year.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 4, 2011 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Tell Us How You Really Feel
Jonas Holøs- Putting the Ø in defense since 2010! Putting the Ø in øffense since Game 7.
by niwotsblessing on May 4, 2011 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Haha
DDC has 0 votes.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
it’s the Red Wing backlash
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 4, 2011 8:07 AM MDT up reply actions
(I didn’t even vote for me)
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 4, 2011 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions
So
Anyone else having problems with MHH today, specifically the formatting on the page?
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good here
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 4, 2011 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions
yep and it’s not just this site for me. I wonder if it’s chrome or something else.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 4, 2011 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions
I’m having problems with all SB nation sites, except SBnation. And I use firefox
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by Jibblescribbits on May 4, 2011 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
alright, I'll say it
I really did not get all the love for Liffiton. Was it just that he was physical and mean when we had no one else?
Regardless, his defense was not very good and his skill set was…limited to say the least. I saw a 7th defenseman, at best.
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Hensick stats: 13 games, 1g/2a/3p THOMAS/DETAVS: I WANT MY $20
Don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the love for Holos.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 4, 2011 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Seriously. It was like some sort of cultish thing.
by Pinchy The Lobster on May 4, 2011 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions
No, he was better than Hunwick and possibly quincey at the time. I’d say it was less about his ability and more about coaching decisions, since none of those guys had a great season.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 4, 2011 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Watch him at the IIHF tourney. He’s the top D-man on a really strong Norway squad. I understood the love a little more after that, although I still haven’t been able to notice him on the Avs blueline. You would think after 35 games, I’d be able to tell you something about how he plays (Hunwick too), but I am completely unable to remember anything about him. Even thinking about the IIHF game I watched with him, I know he shot a lot, but I can’t remember any details.
Maybe a few more years in Eire will make this invisibleness go away. I think Stefan Elliott will take the 3rd right hand defender role away from him next year anyway.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
Nope, sorry. He played 39 games in the Avs sweater this year. 0G 6A -3 10PIM
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who <3s the Avs.
Holos is a defensive defenseman. “Invisibleness” is a desirable attribute. Usually you only notice a defensive player when they get burned. I think he had a very good rookie season. I don’t know where his ceiling is, but he’s earned his NHL stripes as far as I’m concerned. He’s not irreplaceable, but he has definitely been a solid contributor.
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by Busted Twigg on May 4, 2011 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Exactly. Holos is the new Scott Hannan. He will get all sorts of grief on MHH for the same reasons Hannan did. Interesting how much this team missed the Hobbit when he was gone…I think the same will be true of Holos when he gets some years under his belt.
Thank you, Footer. You - and your nose - will never be forgotten.
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by Cheryl Bradley on May 4, 2011 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions
I respectfully disagree. As much of a disappointment as Hannan was, he was at least one time considered a top notch shutdown defenseman. I have never seen anything in Holos’ game, at the NHL level, that suggests that he can be that. Imo, he’s adequate filler at best, maybe he’ll be a decent 3rd pairing guy someday, but I just haven’t seen much of anything from him on either end of the ice that suggests that he’ll ever be anything even remotely special.
Imo, of course. Ymmv. Twss.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 4, 2011 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
I think you misunderstood me. I didn’t mean to say he’s as good as Hannan. I was implying that he will be treated around here the same way people did Hannan: undervaluing his contributions because he quietly goes about his job and rarely makes those big splash plays – either positively or negatively. I agree he will be a 3rd pairing guy though I would argue that his play will be more than decent.
Thank you, Footer. You - and your nose - will never be forgotten.
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by Cheryl Bradley on May 4, 2011 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions
No, Holos will never get the same kind of grief that Hannan did, because Holos will never earn $4.5 million/year for 4 freaking years.
Again, Hannan was fine if he was getting paid Karlis Skrastins money, not so fine when he’s getting paid top two money.
Being famous and having a fender bender is weird. You want to be upset but the other drivers just thrilled & giddy that it's you. — Dane Cook
by Dan Winkler on May 4, 2011 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Good point.
Thank you, Footer. You - and your nose - will never be forgotten.
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by Cheryl Bradley on May 4, 2011 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Agree with Busted Twig Holøs, I thought, had a very good rookie season. (His possession stats were very good for a rookie).
(And I apologize for any kind of Jibbles or reply fails, the formatting here is so messed up I can’t tell what’s going on)
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by Jibblescribbits on May 4, 2011 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions
Oh my!
Did you intend to post that picture?
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 4, 2011 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
What about his zone starts, Billy Beane?
Being famous and having a fender bender is weird. You want to be upset but the other drivers just thrilled & giddy that it's you. — Dane Cook
by Dan Winkler on May 4, 2011 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe a few more years in Eire will make this invisibleness go away.
I really don’t understand why you continue to propose sending players to Ireland. Kinda harsh IMO. Hell, the ECHL is a better league than the British pro league.
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A really strong Norway squad?
Is this the same Norway that’s sent like 5 guys to the NHL?
Being famous and having a fender bender is weird. You want to be upset but the other drivers just thrilled & giddy that it's you. — Dane Cook
by Dan Winkler on May 4, 2011 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions
They beat Sweden in OT, had the USA on the ropes until the third period, and beat Austria by a bigger margin then both the USA and Sweden. (5-0 compared to 5-1 and 3-0 respectively). They’ve looked pretty solid defensively in this tournament from the few games I’ve been able to see.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
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Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
And yet their best player is Slash. They’re playing in the loser’s tournament against watered down competition, can’t get too excited about that, can we?
Being famous and having a fender bender is weird. You want to be upset but the other drivers just thrilled & giddy that it's you. — Dane Cook
by Dan Winkler on May 4, 2011 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions
It’ll be interesting to see Slash’s grade. I’m guessing the Holos fan boys (and girls) will give him at least a B, maybe a B+. And I bet they’ll give Ryan Wilson at least a full half grade lower than that, even though one guy was a key part of the defensive corps, and the other guy was Jonas Holos.
Being famous and having a fender bender is weird. You want to be upset but the other drivers just thrilled & giddy that it's you. — Dane Cook
by Dan Winkler on May 4, 2011 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I’ll take that bet.
Thank you, Footer. You - and your nose - will never be forgotten.
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by Cheryl Bradley on May 4, 2011 1:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Wait…
First of all, I’m not sure if I’ll even remember that bet in a month, when Willie’s final grade comes out.
Secondly, it might not be so wise to make a bet with a member of the Party Planning Committee judging panel. I think you might have some insider information.
Being famous and having a fender bender is weird. You want to be upset but the other drivers just thrilled & giddy that it's you. — Dane Cook
by Dan Winkler on May 4, 2011 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, I figured that was nicer than pointing my finger at you and laughing for being so wrong and all. =)
Thank you, Footer. You - and your nose - will never be forgotten.
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by Cheryl Bradley on May 4, 2011 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just looked at the grades we gave both guys
hahahahaha
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by A.J. Haefele on May 4, 2011 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Have you guys already graded the team out?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 4, 2011 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions
yes
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 5, 2011 5:28 AM MDT up reply actions
You shouldn’t be the one drawing numbers from a hat.
by Pinchy The Lobster on May 4, 2011 9:42 AM MDT reply actions
Be honest: that's a trick question, isn't it.
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by Tempestuous Binary on May 4, 2011 10:04 AM MDT reply actions
Question:
If the Avs decide not to renew his contract, can he sign with just ERIE (see Hopfenkopf, I’m getting better!) and stay on as their captain?
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David was drafted one spot after David Backes and one spot before Lord Jimmy Howard
I’ve decided to start calling him JiHo because I’ve decided that he really belongs in a boy band.
You’re on notice, buddy.
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by Jimmy Howard on May 4, 2011 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey Jimmy, when is the other testicle gonna drop so you can change your name to Jim or James and be a man?
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About the same time that we expect Lidstrom’s other nut to drop.
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You think too small. Obviously, one of my testicles has already ascended to heaven, and the rest of me remains to bring joy and happiness to the world.
You have to admit, have I not brought a smile to your face these last two Wings games?
Go in peace, my child.
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And you shall be punished severely for the attempt.
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by Jimmy Howard on May 4, 2011 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, but Lord my … god …, wouldn’t you look right at home in a boy band? And, heck, there you would only have to lip sync and wouldn’t let in all those soft ass goals. By the way, what did you do to the announcers to get them to only call you by your entire name? “Jimmy Howard really let in a softie there.” “Jimmy Howard was much too deep in net on that play.” What? Is the “Jimmy” an honorific or something? Maybe just a horrific, honestly….
Nice whiff on the game winner last night, Lord Howard.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on May 5, 2011 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions
Happy Star Wars Day!
May the 4th be with you. (heard it on the radio this morning, thought it was mildly humorous)
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
I can’t believe you took the time out of your day to grade this guy. You must really be bored. It’s slow right now, I know.
we’re not slackers here – we’re doing all 39.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 4, 2011 1:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I still say there’s more to that “39” number than coincidence…
Thank you, Footer. You - and your nose - will never be forgotten.
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by Cheryl Bradley on May 4, 2011 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions
A Gally thing? Or an Arny thing?
Being famous and having a fender bender is weird. You want to be upset but the other drivers just thrilled & giddy that it's you. — Dane Cook
by Dan Winkler on May 4, 2011 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Arny.
Thank you, Footer. You - and your nose - will never be forgotten.
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by Cheryl Bradley on May 4, 2011 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions
it’s sad you had to explain that. we used to have such smart readers.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on May 4, 2011 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions
But Dan’s old school. I was heartened to see that he had heard of Gali and knew what number he was.
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That and every redwing fan that comes here lowers the IQ level drastically.
Fuck the redwings!
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Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on May 4, 2011 6:09 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
every now and then during a game I have to do a double take. fucking arnason.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on May 4, 2011 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions
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