Colorado Avalanche Blogger Roundtable Day 9: Breakout Player
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 13, 2011 7:00 AM MDT
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Other than Gabriel Landeskog, who on the Avs do you think will have a breakout year this year?
I deliberately did not provide any criteria for this question as I wanted to let each writer to come up with their own. The end result is that we got a wide variety of answers. Er, with one exception.
David Driscoll-Carignan, Mile High Hockey: Last year I picked T.J. Galiardi and he wound up with 15 points. This year, I'm going to take...T.J. Galiardi. Clearly, I am an idiot.
Clearly, I'm a genius because Galiardi was the overwhelming favorite response.
Angélique Murray, Colorado Avalanche Prospects, Mile High Hockey & Chicks Who Give A Puck: I'm looking at TJ Galiardi as the player I expect to breakout this upcoming season. No, he's not going to put up 90 points, but I expect we'll see more of the player we saw against the San Jose Sharks in the 2010 Western Conference Quarterfinals. So, I'm predicting a 20 goal/30 assist season for Mr. Galiardi.
Mike @ MHH, Mile High Hockey: The hipster pick is T.J. Galiardi, right? That's a thing now, right?
Geoff Rosenthal, The Avs Factor: T.J. Galiardi. If all goes according to plan, he will finally be playing on the third line, a role that he is exceptionally suited for. He will play alongside Ryan O'Reilly (another breakout candidate) and hopefully channel the energy he had in the 2010 playoffs when he became a monster against the San Jose Sharks. Don't let me down, Gali.
Derek and Ryan were on the same wavelength, choosing Galardicus and Peter Mueller.
Derek Bell, Mile High Hockey: There are a couple of players that I'm looking for to have a big year. Peter Mueller and TJ Galiardi. Can Mueller shake the concussion symptoms which kept him out all of last season and recapture some of the brilliance he showed during the Avs short playoff run 2 seasons ago? Or will he fall by the way side due to injuries? Can Galiardicus solidify himself as a top 6 forward in the NHL and earn himself a long term contract after this season? I believe he can, and will, be in the top 3 in scoring this year for the Avs behind Paul Stastny and Matt Duchene.
Ryan Boulding, The Avalanche Guild: I think Peter Mueller will stay healthy this season and that he'll easily top his 54 points from his rookie year. A lot of this depends on who he plays with and if he can mentally overcome the fear of missing another entire season due to injury. TJ Galiardi has something to prove after being demoted to the AHL and having two broken bone injuries last season as well. Look for him to come out heavy as well.
Cheryl also mentioned Galiardi, along with Cameron Awesome and Radar O'Reilly.
Cheryl Bradley, Mile High Hockey & Avalanche Breakaway: I anticipate three players having true breakout years: TJ Galiardi, Cameron Gaunce and Ryan O'Reilly. I picked Gaunce because he has great vision and is so smart with the puck. Between watching him in games at the Pepsi Center and at practices, it's clear the young defenseman has the "it" factor. His development from training camp to his final NHL game last season was impressive and showed his ability to adapt and improve his game. He also paid his own way to make it to what's becoming a highly sought after and in-demand week-long off-season clinic in Canada: the BioSteel camp. In late August, he joined the likes of Steven Stamkos, Jeff Skinner and Steve Mason in the brutal week of on-ice scrimmages and drills, as well as off-ice workouts. This shows that he is serious about his career and dedicated to improving his skills.
O'Reilly and Galiardi will feed off each other to create a dual breakout. Paired on the third line together, they are going to hit that groove they once had back in 2009-2010. Their penalty kills were incredibly impressive, and they seemed to develop a mental link that allowed them to know exactly where the other one would be in order to create an effective forecheck. That chemistry will translate to their forward line in such a way that they create space for one another and anticipate the pass for better scoring opportunities. There won't be a clear "goal scorer" and "set up man" for them; each will feed the other when his linemate has the better shot and take one when he knows it's his to have. Moreover, both players are strong defensively, and when you add Chuck Kobasew to the right wing, this line will become a formidable one with added versatility.
Her buddy AJ went with ORLY as well.
AJ Haefele, Mile High Hockey: I struggled with this one quite a bit. I think this year we finally see what Ryan O'Reilly is going to give us on both ends of the ice. His play on defense is well-documented and respected around the league. He's an extremely intelligent player who does the little things better than most guys in the league, an especially impressive feat given his age. However, this year I think he shows up more on the scoreboard and makes a leap from sub-30 points to the 40-50 range. Anything less than 30 would be seen as a significant letdown in my eyes.
One name I expected to see more here was Stefan Elliott. I'm thinking the Avs crowded blueline is probably what held more people back from making this pick.
Adrian Dater, Denver Post: Stefan Elliott, for sure. I see this guy getting 40 points this year.
Call me crazy - and he may not get enough ice time to get that much, but I really think he's got the talent to get that many points. Might he also be a minus-40 out there? Maybe, but I think he definitely has the goods for a good rookie year.
Pavol from Austria, Eurolanche: Well, we have a lot of prospects, but the best one for next season is probably only Stefan Elliott.
David from Slovakia, Eurolanche: It would be a dream if Landeskog would play like a God and the Erik Johnson and Semyon Varlamov would join him - offense, defense and the goalie. I would pray for Varlamov, because his position was our "black hole" after Roy´s retirement. Did we find the right goalie finally? But back to the question - Stefan Elliott is my hottest candidate for not only breakout season but also Calder Trophy nominee.
But, there actually were a bunch of other defensemen not named Elliott mentioned
Jaye Horbay, Mile High Sticking: I'm hoping for Jonas Holos to break through in a big way. Yes, he was thrown straight into the fire last season, but with the exception of a few gaffes, (I got to witness the OT faceoff fuck up in Vancouver in person) I think he had a pretty solid season. Pair him with a competent defenseman in Hejda or O'Brien and I think he'll quietly put together a good season. It won't be flashy on the score sheet, but the small things that win games.
Sandie Gauthier, Mile High Hockey: I think, barring injuries, it's going to be Kyle Quincey's year. His season-ending injury last year was an abnormal one, and one that is unlikely to be a re-occurring problem as long as it has properly healed. Two years ago he was a good, solid, young defenseman. Last year he struggled early in the season, then he suffered a season-ending shoulder injury when he was starting to figure it out.
Austin Snow, Avs Chill Zone: Kyle Quincey. Gotta stay healthy, but I say he puts up 50 points - more than EJ.
Matt Muzia, SBN Denver: Erik Johnson. He has the size and talent, and he finally has an organization that firmly believes in his future. With Hejda staying home, Johnson will be given free range to play a more open style. Potential All-Star this season and our future captain.
Aaron Musick, HockeyBuzz: Two players breakout this year: Matt Duchene and Erik Johnson. Mueller is another one to watch for but just playing a full season would be a good start. Duchene and Johnson will breakout in a big way due to maturity and great offseason training programs. Johnson in particular with a stronger lower body, should be faster and more explosive.
Another guy with a couple of mentions was Joakim Lindstrom
Stephen Crociata, Mile High Sticking and SBNation New York: I believe Joakim Lindstrom has a lot of promise if he makes the Avalanche out of training camp. If he is on one of the top two lines I can see him puttingg up similar numbers to what he put up in the SEL (28 and 32). I also believe Chuck Kobasew has a great opportunity to revert to his old ways.
Brett Shumway, Mile High Hockey: I want to say Galiardi and Lindstrom will have break out seasons, but playing in the bottom 6 will limit them both. Lindstrom may be a sleeper power play specialist. I could see solid PP numbers from him, potentially more than at even strength.
Also getting nodes: Brandon Yip and Brad Malone
Mike Verminski, Put It On Ice: Yip only because he's my man crush.
Mike Chambers, Denver Post: Brad Malone might make the team as a Cody McLeod-type and hopefully Peter Mueller proves that he can play a full year again. David Jones and TJ Galiardi might have big years.
Finally, Andi went with D) All of the above
Andi D, Mile High Hockey: I think 2011-12 will be a breakout season for not only a number of our players, but for our entire team. Almost everyone is in the final year of their contract, and they have something to prove this year after such a dismal finish last season. I made a list of everyone that I thought could have a breakout season, and it had 11 names on it. However, I think the four that would have the most impact on the team are our core players. I think Duchene will finally break 80 points and begin to establish himself as one of the elite centers in the league. EJ will also have a big season - with Hejda as his partner, he'll be able to jump into the play more and prove that he's a strong 2-way defenseman that was rightfully taken 1st overall. I expect him to lead the blueline in scoring next year. And I'll bet that more is going to be asked of O'Reilly offensively and that he, in true O'Reilly form, will live up to those expectations. He could become one of the very best two way centers in the league, and I think next year is when he'll start to prove it. And Varly, if his health cooperates, could also establish himself as one of the best in the game. He certainly has the talent to be - with Giggy (and hopefully a full time goalie coach) there to guide him, I think he could have a really great year. If all 4 of them live up to their potential and a few other teammates join in, I think the Avs are a playoff team.
I loved the wide diversity of the answers here as well as the wide assortment of potential breakout players (or tear- inducing disappointments). We're going to have even more fun tomorrow, when we gave into our crystal balls and sort out the logjam on the blueline.
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Oh boy, Dan’s TJ-dar must be going insane this morning.
I’m going to go with Varly, if he remains healthy (and can get through what I’m sure are some mental issues with the Lokomotiv tragedy)
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Did you say asininity today?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
The link up on FB?
It's all about the A-
by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 13, 2011 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Nope, probably can’t get it in place until tomorrow.
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I shall wait until then.
It's all about the A-
by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 13, 2011 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions
I am partially confused by the TJ stuff. If he’s on the 3rd line with Radar he’ll be amazing, but he won’t be able to put up a ton of point. If he goes on the 1st line with Stastny and Jones then he might put up more points. I do like the flexibility with the line-uo though. There is actually talent to be moved around and not enough space for the players. That’s just a damn good thing.
I think Elliott will make the team and make us forget Shattenkirk, but Johnson is my pick. He’ll always have the “bust” stigma, but I think he dominates the Northwest Division.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I’m hoping and think there’s a fairly good chance that the Avs Defense as a whole will have a breakout year. Our guys can already score in bunches, that will be nothing new. If the team is playing on it’s toes and feels like it can win every night, the offense will be just fine.
But our defense – and I’m including forwards and goaltending here – was bloody atrocious last year. This year we have the potential for breakout years from EJ, Elliott, and Gaunce. We have the addition of another big body in Hejda. The return of Quincey. The absence of Cumiskey and, heavens help us, Hunwick. Goaltending is completely revamped. We have some great pieces in place for the defensive forwards. Hopefully they’ll mesh better with our new look D-pairings. The potential for improvement all across the defense is just Brobdingnagianly large.
I need a drink, please.
by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 7:57 AM MDT up reply actions
But but but, Copper N’ Blue compared the defense to Columbus, Edmonton, and Minnesota and said it was Lilliputian. How dare you disagree with them? Are you some sort of Houyhnhnm?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Don’t trust those jaded Yahoos over at Copper N’Blue. Any good Houyhnhnm would realize there are just too many question marks and new pieces for anyone to truly judge how the Avs defense will play this year. The potential for greatness and utter failure are both there.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 8:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Fuck you Sb Nation
Colorado Avalanche Injuries
Questionable
PLAYER INJURY TYPE INJURY DATE
Peter Mueller concussion 09/10/2011
I accidently clicked on the Avalanche SB Nation front page and they had this listed. I got sad.
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fuck you too
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 13, 2011 7:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Well that was mean.
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/cranky old man
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 13, 2011 7:44 AM MDT up reply actions
C6 and I will set a paper bag full of dog doo on fire right on your porch then ring the bell and watch as you stomp it out.
I love it
2 Wing fans disagreeing about a potential deal for Shea Weber in the comments section of a post about the Avalanche.
Winging It In Motown
by Amerinadian on Sep 12, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply 1 recs
Haha, yeah and then, and then, we’ll hide behind the bushes and laugh.
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DDC eats pieces of shit like you two miscreants for breakfast.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I’ve never been on the Galiardi bandwagon. I hope, obviously, that he has a great year, but I’m just not seeing it.
I’d like to go out on a limb and say Hejduk will have a return to form year. He didn’t have a bad year last year, but I expect an even better showing this year. I expect/hope for 30+ goals and 40 assists. Of course this is all dependant upon him staying healhy and the production of his linemates.
Finally, does anyone else ever see “falafel” when reading AJ Haefele’s last name? Maybe I’m slightly dyslexic.
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As grandma always says, Fuck the Red Wings, indeed.
I see Halfafalafel. So who knows.
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…great, now I’m starving.
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As grandma always says, Fuck the Red Wings, indeed.
by David Danger on Sep 13, 2011 7:35 AM MDT up reply actions
T_T
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+
by A.J. Haefele on Sep 13, 2011 7:45 AM MDT up reply actions
You mad, bro?
Brothers, I am Galimov.
by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 13, 2011 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Well
While you guys are arguing over which foods my last name makes you think of, I’m leaving for Rookie Camp. Harrumph.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+
by A.J. Haefele on Sep 13, 2011 7:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Updates, bro. I want updates.
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I have a ghetto phone
I don’t do internets on my phone. I’m taking my notebook and pen to take notes. You’ll have a full write-up sometime today.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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by A.J. Haefele on Sep 13, 2011 7:49 AM MDT up reply actions
YES!
much appreciated
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 8:06 AM MDT up reply actions
I don’t believe in ghetto phones. A phone should make phone calls…and text. That’s about it. Plus Apple is taking over the world anyway…I don’t want to speed up that process
Stabilize your rear deflectors, watch for enemy fighters.
I play scrabble with my grandma on my phone. It makes her happy. Why do you hate my grandma?
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 8:11 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Win.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
She would’ve invited you in for tea if you hadn’t run off like a scared ninny.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Ah, that was my other grandma. Yeah, she’s a good shot.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions
someone disagrees with waffle?
Chip, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Sep 13, 2011 8:28 AM MDT up reply actions
Waffles?
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Sep 13, 2011 6:01 PM MDT up reply actions
I will always and forever love this gif.
I love it
2 Wing fans disagreeing about a potential deal for Shea Weber in the comments section of a post about the Avalanche.
Winging It In Motown
by Amerinadian on Sep 12, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply 1 recs
Way to add to the discussion, Verminski.
My pick is EJ. He’s motivated, he’s focused, and he’s confident. He is not just going to shed the “bust” label that some people have given him, he’ll make the all-star game and validate “the trade”.
No soup for you!
by creamy on Sep 13, 2011 8:04 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Yip will get a lot of action…just not on the ice
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I hear the nacho are nice this time of year.
Chip, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Sep 13, 2011 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions
Nacho plants ripen in time for hockey season…wait, what?
Stabilize your rear deflectors, watch for enemy fighters.
The nachos actually migrate in from the south.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
Why is Yip Cheryl’s new man crush now that hot pocket had to leave the country.
Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.
lol
Women don’t have man crushes, at least not that I know of.
Brothers, I am Galimov.
by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 13, 2011 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
LOL
Nope, we don’t.
It's all about the A-
by Sandie Gauthier on Sep 13, 2011 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Mike made me laugh:
“The Hipster pick”
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 8:06 AM MDT reply actions
I liked Galiardi before it was cool to do so.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
Datsyuk liked TJ before all of you, so give it up
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I like the Quincey pick too. Please let that be true
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 8:09 AM MDT reply actions
Mighty Matt will be the single most recognizably, jaw-dropping, scary fucking good, phenom of a hockey player on the Avs this year. If that counts as a breakout year, then he’s my pick. But really, who doesn’t see Matty being awesome?
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 8:10 AM MDT reply actions
Wow I go to BC for the weekend to enjoy my good friends wedding and I come home to see @Matt9Duchene Aka ‘Crickets’ trying to chirp me
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That Gali? Kid’s got a lot of nicknames.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions
that was Gali making fun of Duchene. At one point he tweeted, and took it down now, that he hoped Duchene was actually working out this summer instead of driving around in his shitty at truck listening to bad country music.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I think Kobasew was an under rated signing. Sure he wasn’t all that flashy in Minnisota. But how the heck could he have been, they’re fucking minnisota, they’re boring. I think he’ll be close to the player he was in Boston and Calgary and double his goal production to 18 or so.
Chip, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Sep 13, 2011 8:31 AM MDT reply actions
I honestly quasi-forgot we even signed Kobasew. If our lines look like the following, which presumes all the guys are playing well enough to be there, then I think we have a good chance at a pretty solid team. The lack of depth and prolificacy at the top wings is still pretty glaring though.
Mueller – Stastny – Jones
Landeskog – Duchene – Hejduk
Galiardi – Radar – Kobasew
Winnik – McClement – whoever
EJ – Hejda
O’Byrne – Quincey
Elliott – Guance (or switch a rookie with a 2nd pairing vet)
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions
The difference, however, is that the Avs can get a wing. Maybe they sign someone like JP Dumont if someone else gets hurt. If injuries spring up, they can address it from a position of more strength than last year.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I totally agree. The above is a solid team. With a supplement at the wings (Dumont, Marchand, whatever) it’s a strong playoff team.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions
As fun as Marchand was this spring, he wouldn’t add that much to the team.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I’ll just grant it that you know better than I, as I really haven’t seen him play much apart from the playoffs last year.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions
I mean, I guess he’s an upgrade, sort of, but he is really a quicker version of Galiardi. I don’t think he’s overrated by any means but he is a product of the Bruins system. If he goes anywhere else, he will be expected to score a lot and that won’t happen if it’s on his shoulders alone.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I’m still not sold on Jones being a long-term solution in the top two. Hejduk is in his last couple years. Mueller is one more concussion away from retirement. That leaves Landeskog, who is an 18 year old rookie. What other prospects could make the top two inside of the next couple years? Hishon and?
Point being, just about any legitimate top two winger is an upgrade for the Avs. That being said, it’s likely more appropriate to look for a wing once the need is immediate, e.g. retirement or long-term injury.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions
Fixed.
I’m still not sold on Jones being a long-term solution in the top two. Hejduk is in his last couple years. Mueller is one more concussion away from retirement. That leaves Landeskog, who is an 18 year old rookie. What other prospects could make the top two inside of the next couple years? Hishon and?
Point being, just about any legitimate top two winger is an upgrade for the Avs. That being said, it’s likely more appropriate to look for a wing once the need is immediate, e.g. retirement or long-term injury.
Parise
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by c6hor8 on Sep 13, 2011 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
if they’re going broke, how about Yip, Cumiskey and a 3rd for Parise and Kovachuk.
Chip, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Sep 13, 2011 10:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Only if Kovi leaves his contract behind.
"It's all about the $"
Lawn defender since... crap, I can't remember.
by Busted Twigg on Sep 13, 2011 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions
as long as Sather still has a job, there’s someone out there to take it off our hands later.
Chip, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Sep 13, 2011 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Galaradi, Kobasew, Lindstrom, Yip, and Malone will all get a shot.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Sep 13, 2011 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Kobasew is a 3rd line player at best. Lindstrom is a complete unknown. Yip and Malone are bottom 6 players. Galiardi could be a top 6 forward if he progresses.
I think Mueller is safe and I think the Avs think that. Their confidence in him makes me happy.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Mueller is one more concussion away from retirement.
people continue to say this, and yet…. every report says that he is 100% healed, and no more likely to have a concussion that any other player. So Mueller is as close to retirement as Duchene in all reality.
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions
This is one of those situations where logic and medicine seems to fight each other. They can say that he is as likely as anyone else, but non-medical logic makes me think otherwise.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
fair enough
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
I’m no doctor, so fair enough. But it seems pretty fair to think that if Mueller winds up concussed at all this season, then the Avs will have to think seriously about including him in their long-term plans.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Absolutely agree. If that freak incident occurs, they are in a Marc Savard situation and they will keep him around but find an adequate replacement.
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Fleischmann what?
oh…. right
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions
18 million/4 years. No.Thanks.
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well of course not. But we wouldn’t have had to pay Florida money
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
I have yet to see proof of this. Aside from the medical issues with flying that Cheryl pointed out, I think he realized his stock was high because of the weak FA class.
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I guess, but i wonder if guys like him and Jovo really only saw offers from Florida. We know he didnt get an offer from the Avs so it is hard to say. I would have paid 3.75 per though, and I’d think that # plus not playing for the panthers would be tempting
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
:( this makes me angry
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions
Hishon is still bothered by concussion symptoms.
yup
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Since it's a slow hockey news day
There is some moronic twitter topic about “knowing if your a MnWild fan”. Reading B Rey’s comments is like a sociological study of an alien race.
From what I can tell, he seems happy to lose Havlat, enjoy being the San Jose sharks of the East, don’t seem concerned that Burns is gone, and is excited about getting Heatley. Um…wow.
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This is how he’s such a good Wild fan. You’d have to believe a bunch of crazy shit to put up with that team.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions
There’s delusional and there’s thinking that Heatley is not only better than Havlat but is going to make your team better.
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Wasn’t this the same guy who flipped his wig when Dater suggested that Minnesota wanted to move Havlat?
At least Havlat was just hurt a lot. Not even playing alongside Joe Thornton could keep Heatley’s numbers from dropping.
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2 Wing fans disagreeing about a potential deal for Shea Weber in the comments section of a post about the Avalanche.
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by Amerinadian on Sep 12, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply 1 recs
That was typo from one of the posts. I copied and pasted it not realizing it. I don’t think he made a mistake like that. He’s still a moron, but usually a grammatically correct one.
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Paul and BRey sitting in a tree…….
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by Americanario on Sep 13, 2011 6:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I can’t believe someone choose Yip or admitted to having a man crush on him. I am not even sure Yip makes the team at the end of camp. Actually I am kind of hoping he does not make the team at the end of camp.
Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.
I would much rather hope that Yip plays like old Yip and makes camp and scores 20 goals this year. But thats just me i guess?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions
Yip is one of a few intriguing guys eligible for waivers this year.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Sep 13, 2011 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
That more or less puts him on the team/pressbox or a different team.
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I could see Yip taking the 3rd line from Kobasew
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Even a Kobasew on the 4th line is great for depth. Kobasew and Winnik as wingers on the 4th line? I’d take that.
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yes preez, Malone at center too!
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions
If he can do that as 4th line RW I would be f’ing ecstatic. Barring injury, that’s as high as Yipper is likely to go. If Yip scores 20 b/c he’s playing on a top line b/c half our team is injured again, well then I’ll likely be too drunk to make an intelligible complaint.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
I don’t think Quincey will get 50 points, but I think he’ll have a breakout season. I think he’s a good D, and poised to recover from last season.
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by Jibblescribbits on Sep 13, 2011 10:32 AM MDT reply actions
agreed. Quincey will regain BMF status now that he has more support from the rest of the D
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions
He can be a better BMF in a 2nd pairing role.
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exactly. Though I cant say i would mind him and Johnson as a pairing
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions
I just think he’ll play better, no matter what. I don’t think his play was nearly as bad as a lot of people made it, but it was still underwhelming in his limited action last season. But his previous season(s) he showed he can be better than that. so, to me, it’s more likely he plays better than stays the same. Some players just have off seasons (See: Stastny, Paul). I think Quincey was looking better when he went down from injury anyways.
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by Jibblescribbits on Sep 13, 2011 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Breakout player:
Ryan Wilson, I think Mac Truck has a big year. The revamped D and goalies will give him more room to run around and do what he does best. Hit and make strong outlet passes. I could honestly see him topping 30 points while really rounding out his defensive game.
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 10:36 AM MDT reply actions
If Wilson plays regularly, it’s b/c Gaunce and/or Elliott are not. Gaunce and Elliott both look to have higher ceilings than Mac, so I’d vote for either of them to play this year (assuming they deserve to) just for the long term gain.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Well Eliott and WIlson aren’t really comparable but does Gaunce have a higher ceiling?
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From what I’ve seen, Gaunce has been much more positionally sound than Wilson, better on the boards and in transition. Wilson is an exciting player to watch, but I don’t think he’ll contribute as much to the team as a solid, stay-at-home guy (see Hannan, Scott, marketed as).
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions
Maybe I am overlooking Gaunce’s skill-set. I’ll need to watch in more detail.
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I agree with MC, Gaunce is way better positionally, though not as big a hitter. He’s also a much better passer. as he develops, I only see him improving too, while Wilson is getting close to being done developing.
I can see that side of things, but I definitely think Wilson is a competitor and the pressure from guys like Guance is going to force him to take a step forward. Now, it could just mean he’s worth more at the deadline and traded to make room for the guys with agreeably higher ceilings. But I still think his game takes a big step forward this year
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions
In a perfect world, I’d like them both. I think Gaunce is a good middle pairing guy ultimately, while Wilson is a good bottom pairing guy.
in like 2 years:
Siemens – EJ
Gaunce – Elliot
Hejda – Barrie
Wilson
unf.
i can get behind that. Though I really think, in the long run. Quincey and Guance will BOTH be better than Wilson
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Quincey is better than Wilson already.
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by Jibblescribbits on Sep 13, 2011 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions
agreed. by a lot. Quincey is second only to Johnson on this team
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Hejda?
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I haven’t seen Hejda play enough, but I bet it’s close. I’ll give Hejda the edge because he’s been more consistent over the last few years.
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by Jibblescribbits on Sep 13, 2011 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions
To be honest, I haven’t seen Hejda play a lot… but my overall impression I still think Quincey playing at his healthiest is a hair better
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Hejda may not prove quite so dynamic as Quincey, but he’s definitely proven he can munch minutes. Quincey wasn’t stellar in his one outing as a primary guy. He either needs another chance or would do better / more with less minutes (2nd pairing).
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Is Hejda like 36 already though. Will he still be munching minutes in two years or will he be bought of the last year of his contract?
I wonder if by that point will he be look Footer the last year. We are thankful for his leadership and what he has done, but don’t really want him on the ice that much.
Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.
That’s a fair point. My comment was more for this year.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree with you for this year. I hope he plays big minutes and is a rock on defense. I would love to see him kick Holmstrom’s ass anytime he tries to setup shop in front of the net.
Our Johnson is bigger and better than LA's Johnson so suck it.
Florida State hasn’t had a decent kicker since. Sigh.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Janikowski nearly lost me my fantasy football game
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
he’s a fossil on this team
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
I think Quincey is trade bait when Siemens, Elliot and Barrie are all ready. Him or Hejda. I could also see Gaunce shipped out in a move similar to the EJ trade, for that upgrade. I would bet a lot the Avs are working hard on Suter, Turris, and/or Parise any time between now and the deadline.
Turris has never gotten a fair shake in Phoenix, much like Mueller. These contract demands are thinly veiled I WANT A REAL CHANCE declarations. fine, we’ll give you one:
Stastny + Gaunce for Suter + Fisher
Fisher + Pickard for Turris
interesting take. I have mixed feelings on the Turris deal… But I’ll take Suter and FIsher in a heartbeat
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
I would agree, but I don’t think that Siemens and Barriot will all be ready before the end of Quincey’s contract at the end of next year. I’d love for it to be the case, but I don’t see a not quite 19yr old Siemens ready to step onto the 2nd pairing, or into the league for that matter.
Given that fact, I don’t see the logic in letting go of either Gaunce or Pickard. I guess if Barriot are so fanfuckingtastic that they make Gaunce superfluous, but I think that’s hubris, to be honest.
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Barriot are RDs, Gaunce and Siemens are LDs, so they’re 2 separate issues.
with this trade, i see:
Suter – EJ
Hejda – Barriot
Quincey – ROB
Barriot
and Siemens replaces Quincey and Hejda in the 2LD spot eventually, and Barriot #2 replaces ROB.
I just think Suter is a pipe dream at this point. If Stastny was traded, the Avs would go from having amazing center depth and mediocre D, to amazing D depth and mediocre center depth.
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe.
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by A.J. Haefele on Sep 14, 2011 6:47 AM MDT up reply actions
he’s 18 now. I really like Siemens, I see a lot of Tyler Myers in him. Less polished offensively and defensively, but meaner and a better skater.
if Tyler Myers is the kind of upside in Siemens…. This will be a very good team for a very long time
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions
Sans the 9 inch difference.
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I would expect they play at the same weight, and there difference ends up at about 4 inches. height differences aren’t that big a deal anyways.
The reach would help I imagine, but otherwise can’t disagree with you.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions
he has that upside. I wouldn’t consider him sure to make it at all, but he’s got all the tools, and he’s also got the work ethic.
did you see him skate on dario’s twitter feed? jesu christo, EJ can’t even do that. and he’s so young!
i did, his footwork really is outstanding
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions
AJ said Siemens looks pretty outmatched at rookie camp, clearly not ready for NHL. But it’s just the first day.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 13, 2011 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions
To be fair, Shattenkirk sucked balls in camp. After he got his feet wet in the AHL, he was ready for the NHL. All he meant was that Siemens is just barely 18. I would be surprised if on his first day out of the gate he was dominating.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 13, 2011 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Wilson is likely as good as he’s going to get, or close.
I think Wilson will win the #6 spot out of camp, but someone (Guance, Holøs, Barrie or Elliott) will get some spot duty during the season (injuries or something) and they will overtake Wilson on the depth chart.
I like Wilson a lot, but the fact is that the Avs have some very good D coming up in the system and his days as an Avs regular top-6 are numbered.
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by Jibblescribbits on Sep 13, 2011 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions
I sadly agree. I like Mack Truck but too many guys with higher ceilings in the works.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Sep 13, 2011 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions
I like wilson, but
I see Gaunce passing him up this year. and with Siemens coming, his days with the team are numbered.
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by Dixomatic on Sep 13, 2011 10:39 AM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Duchene
I also think Duchene finally (can you say finally about a 20 year old? I guess) becomes that PPG player we all expect.
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by Jibblescribbits on Sep 13, 2011 10:47 AM MDT reply actions
I’d like to see him improve on last season. Don’t get me wrong, 60-70 is nice, but I really expect him to have an even better season than that.
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I think struggling so much in the second half, and hitting a wall is going to be a little bit of a wake-up call for him. It’s unlikely he’s ever had to deal with anyone as talented as him much until now, and I think he’s focused on being a lot better this season. That’s not to say that I think he was slacking, or loafing or anything but there’s always a point when you get to the real world and you realize that it’s not the way it used to be anymore. It’s all part of growing up and maturing. I think he hit that last season. I hope he did. I think it will show this season and he becomes the #1 center, and Stastny takes a #2 role (which I think will make this team a lot better)
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by Jibblescribbits on Sep 13, 2011 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
Nice analysis. Agree entirely and in the long run. Paul Stastny is the perfect #2 center. Its why his numbers are a million times better when he was center behind Sakic, his subtle passing game is more conducive to fucking up 2nd pairing D’s, top guys can read him better
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by Cole D Hamilton on Sep 13, 2011 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
a million times better when he was center behind Sakic
That is something that has not been said enough. We’re used to him as a number 1, but he’s not.
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He is a legitimate #1 center (he’s certainly one of the 30 best in the league), but I think Dario (& others) has the right solution: build down the centers. If you have a 1-15 and a 15-30 center on your team, you have a step up on other teams in the league.
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by Jibblescribbits on Sep 13, 2011 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
A number 1 on this team I mean. He is skilled enough to be one, but he performs better when he is in a slightly secondary role. Duchene has that power to take over a game and get that one goal when you need it, like Sakic. Stastny is just consistent.
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well, I hope you’re right. but I think that year is next year. 22 is a big “figure it out” year for most people.
True. there’s quite a bit of wishful thinking in that analysis.
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by Jibblescribbits on Sep 13, 2011 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
B Rey is one strange human being.
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This is new?
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2 Wing fans disagreeing about a potential deal for Shea Weber in the comments section of a post about the Avalanche.
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by Amerinadian on Sep 12, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply 1 recs
He started fighting with me about the Wild on twitter which is strange because I had to learn how to use twitter. I commented that the Wild’s greatest achievement was winning a 1st round playoff series. His defense essentially boiled down to "we’ve only been an expansion team for 10 years.
I am at a loss.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Well in his defense they’re a boring team to watch and don’t really “stir the hockey soul” when they hit the ice.
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2 Wing fans disagreeing about a potential deal for Shea Weber in the comments section of a post about the Avalanche.
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by Amerinadian on Sep 12, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply 1 recs
Though I should have saved it for this thread instead of saying it in the “I hope” thread….
Jay McClemment will breakout (as much as one can “breakout” as a defensive centerman) and that breakout will allow Orly and Gali the chance to become the offensive minded forwards that we suppose they could be.
Silent Jay is a solid pick for a “turnaround”.
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by MalachiConstant on Sep 13, 2011 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions
If he plays well, he also adds a dynamic to the team. It gives them 2 offensive line, one defensive line, and one blend of Radar, Gali, and Kobasew/Winnik. That line I think will prove a pivoting point.
In defensive games, it will give the Avs two defensive lines. In offensive games, it will give the Avs an extra offensive line. I really think that could turn out to be an amazing thing.
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