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Game 48 Preview: Panthers at Avalanche


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On Monday, the Avalanche faced a struggling warm-weather team in a bid to climb back into the playoff picture. As you may have heard, it didn't work out very well. Tonight, the burgundy boys get to try again as they host the Florida Panthers at the Pepsi Center. The Panthers have lost 4 of their last 5...but as tired and true Avalanche fans, you know that probably doesn't bode all that well for us.

This is an interesting matchup for a few reasons. One, these teams match up very evenly statistically. Two, the Panthers have a couple of ex-Avs in Tomas Fleischmann and Jose Theodore. Theo is day-to-day and hasn't played in the last five games...but the Panthers sent down #3 goalie Brian Foster last night, which means Theo will dress and I assume he'll start. It also illustrates a contrasting style in, uh, financial management. Panthers GM Dale Talon acquired some pricey free agents this summer while Avalanche GM Greg Sherman took the more frugal approach. It's worth noting that Tomas Fleischman, Kris Versteeg and Brian Campbell have 106 points, just 78 more than Shane O'Brien, Jan Hejda and Joaqim Lindstrom. Just sayin'...

As discussed yesterday, hopes are that O'Brien will return to the lineup tonight, forcing Joe Sacco to make a tough decision about who to sit. Personally, I'd dress Quncey just to offend his sense of entitlement.

No huge surprise that J.S. Giguere will get the nod in net over Semyon Varlamov, who struggled in his last two starts. There was a minor controversy yesterday over the fact that the Post's Mike Chambers reported that Varlamov refused comment after getting shelled by the Coyotes. Some people felt Chambers should not have made a big deal about it, while others took Varly to task for not being more professional about the interview request. Personally, I don't have a problem with either. There's nothing wrong with a player wanting to be left alone after a tough loss...and there's definitely nothing wrong with a beat writer reporting about it.

And there's nothing wrong with rooting for the Avs to get a big win tonight. For the preceding sentence, please remember to nominate me for the Worst Segue Award at the upcoming Basement Blogger People's Choice Awards. Thanks.

Stats
44 GP 47
21 W 24
14 L 21
9 OT 2
51 P 50
0.580 P% 0.532
2.50 G/G 2.40
2.68 GA/G 2.85
18.4 PP% 18.8
81.5 PK% 81.9
30.0 S/G 30.7
31.1 SA/G 29.3
50.3 FO% 51.7

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tired and true Avalanche fans

I am tired of the inconsistent play, that’s for sure.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 7:06 AM MST reply actions  

Inconsistent play…especially from the vets (Stats, Hejduk…) the Avs are counting on (Giguere not withstanding)

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 7:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Stastny has picked it up lately.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 7:47 AM MST up reply actions  

If 5 points in 12 games is picking it up, at least he won’t have to worry about back problems.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 8:42 AM MST up reply actions  

I thought his play has been better.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 9:00 AM MST up reply actions  

You’re right, of course. I just find it unfortunate that his better play has resulted in a still low output of points. And even with his better play, it took super slow motion replay for him to be credited with one goal in his last 12 games.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 AM MST up reply actions  

This is one of the best analogies I have ever read. Ever.

Peter McNabb thinks I'm outstanding.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 9:36 AM MST up reply actions  

Going with the schoolwork analogy for a minute...

Stastny’s season is the kid who has a bad grades because he’s tested poorly. He’s doing his homework, studying hard, and generally doing all the things that kids who get good grades should do (i.e. Corsi), but when the test comes around, for whatever reason, the results aren’t coming around. Maybe he’s studying the wrong material, or had a brain fart, but all the pieces & work habits for him to be successful are there.

With those kids (and I taught a few like that) you always feel the success will be there, just keep chugging along.

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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 1:47 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s, among the Avs, probably the guy with the most amount of “oh my god how’d he not score there!!” moments.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah, but as a student, if I was like that for 47 tests in a row……

Can't listen to Party Rock anymore....all I hear is 'Everyday lines are Shufflin'

by lifeblood19 on Jan 18, 2012 2:13 PM MST up reply actions  

He hasn’t had bad tests 47 in a row. He’s had good games where he didn’t score points, and he’s had good games where he did too.

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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 2:13 PM MST up reply actions  

And he’s generally been not nearly good enough this season. Period.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

hammer on nail.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 2:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Not sure where I said otherwise. (although, again his advanced stats, PDO, show he’s also been incredibly unlucky)

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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Do they show when that unlucky stread will end?

Avalanche Hockey: egressing to the mean

by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 3:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Bah on anything that claims to quantify luck.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jan 18, 2012 6:04 PM MST up reply actions  

So… all of statistics?

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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 6:08 PM MST up reply actions  

The menace I feel towards this comment is well over 9000

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by MalachiConstant on Jan 19, 2012 7:41 AM MST up reply actions  

?

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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2012 7:48 AM MST up reply actions  

‘All of statistics’ does not aim to quantify luck. In fact, a good model can be judged on how little error or “luck” is present. Statistics tries to minimize “luck”, not measure it.

The idea of “luck” is just a concept people use to characterize circumstances too complicated to accurately define. If we were smart enough to capture the existing data, there would be no such thing as luck – there would only be what happened.

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by MalachiConstant on Jan 19, 2012 8:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Statistics aims to quantify the patter that will happen to seemingly random events over time. If a model has been shown to accurately quantify that, deviations from that model can be considered “random chance”

The idea of "luck" is just a concept people use to characterize circumstances too complicated to accurately define. If we were smart enough to capture the existing data, there would be no such thing as luck – there would only be what happened.

I disagree with that because of Quantum Mechanics. For stuff like dice rolls, etc (where we could, in theory, know the rotation of the dice, the force at which they are rolled, the table friction coefficients, the micro-mismatches in wieghts of the dice etc..) maybe that’s true, but quantum mechanics has some truly random variables that are truly lucky.

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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2012 8:37 AM MST up reply actions  

If a model has been shown to accurately quantify that, deviations from that model can be considered "random chance"

But if I produce a more accurate model, then a portion of what you considered “random chance” would no longer be undefined. The error term, or what you refer to as “random chance”, is merely what the model fails to represent; that’s not to say it cannot be defined inherently.

My point is that a good statistical model does not strive to define what is random; but rather the opposite, it tries to identify variables that contribute to an outcome in some definite manner.

Statistics aims to quantify the patter that will happen to seemingly random events over time. If a model has been shown to accurately quantify that, deviations from that model can be considered "random chance"

Another way to represent your statement could be:

‘Take some seemingly random situation’ → ‘churn through our model’ = A(Defined explanatory variables for the now not random portion of the situation) + B(smaller portion of the situation that is still seemingly random)

The goal is to capture A. B is just the portion of what you started with that your model isn’t capable of capturing.

The model doesn’t “allow” you to refer to B as random chance – that would be a colloquialism and an over simplification.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Jan 19, 2012 9:11 AM MST up reply actions  

But if I produce a more accurate model, then a portion of what you considered "random chance" would no longer be undefined. The error term, or what you refer to as "random chance", is merely what the model fails to represent; that’s not to say it cannot be defined inherently.

An outlier will still be an outlier. Maybe the definition of your 2σ changes, but (at least in Guassian and Poisson stats, which account for like 99.9999999999% of events) there will always be outliers that are possible but very unlikely. But when they happen they are “lucky” or “unlucky”.

I’m pretty sure the mode for dice rolling is extremly accurate. Yet you can always roll 3 5’s in a row. Luck. A good statistical model strives to find what is most likely, yes by incorporating as many variables as possible. But it’s always in terms of “likely”

Lucky events are still defined in incredibly accurate statistical models, they are just outliers.

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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2012 9:22 AM MST up reply actions  

An outlier can only be defined as ‘likely’ or ‘unlikely’ per your model or data set. Perhaps outliers represent a small proportion of your data set and are therefore “unlikely” to happen in the predictive confines of your data and model, but that does not mean there was not a specific reason(s) for their occurrence (nor does it mean their occurrence cannot be predicted).

Sure outliers are accounted for in incredibly accurate statistical models, though the term ‘lucky’ is still a colloquialism for them. Outliers are accounted for in incredibly bad statistical models too; and are often inappropriately – even as a colloquialism – referred to as “lucky”. Often enough, there is not an appropriate amount of data.

Data are black & white past occurances. They says what they say. The author is responsible for any predictions he or she may make based on their analysis.

good statistical model strives to find what is most likely, yes by incorporating as many variables as possible. But it’s always in terms of "likely"

Are you really only talking predictive modeling here? I don’t see how conclusions like “we’re z% confident that x caused y” have anything to do with “quantifying luck”.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Jan 19, 2012 10:59 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m not really sure what you’re getting at here, other than possibly a very nitpicky definition of luck. Or you’re getting into a very philosophical argument about predetermined fate.

Rolling 2 dice you have a 1/36 chance of rolling a 12. That may change slightly due to imperfection in the dice (wieghted a certain way). Rolling it more (or less) than that is either lucky or unlucky, obviously depending on your viewpoint and consequences.

Data are black & white past occurances. They says what they say. The author is responsible for any predictions he or she may make based on their analysis.

Except if the conditions that govern that statistics are still set, then the predictions still occur. I am 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% certain the Sun won’t supernova tomorrow. If it does happen, It’s unlucky.

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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2012 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Nerd fight.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 19, 2012 1:08 PM MST up reply actions  

I call double light saber.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Jan 19, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Simply put, saying ‘“all of statistics” is out to quantify luck’ is a mis-characterization that imho is harmful to a consumer’s understanding of the tool.

I’m not trying to get at a nitpicky definition of luck, it’s pretty clearly defined in any dictionary. It’s just inappropriate as a generalization here.

A last example: consider a statistical analysis on the effectiveness of higher education and it’s impact on lifetime earnings. The study finds that completing a 4-year degree on average increases lifetime earnings by some amount that’s determined to be statistically significant. There’s no question of luck here. Could you overgeneralize and note some outliers of 4-year degree earners that earned less than some non-degree earners? Sure. But it wouldn’t be appropriate to determine all those outliers were unlucky/lucky – nor is it wholly appropriate to attribute it to random chance either.

Rolling it more (or less) than that is either lucky or unlucky, obviously depending on your viewpoint and consequences.

The point I was trying to make previously on this is that it depends on how many times you role the dice before you can conclusively say you’re lucky or unlucky. It’s called ’The Law of Very Large Numbers" for a reason. That being said, I think this example/point got away from our original topic.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Jan 19, 2012 1:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Ok, so All of statistics isn’t for the sole purpose of quantifying luck, but even when that’s not it’s purpose it does so.

Could you overgeneralize and note some outliers of 4-year degree earners that earned less than some non-degree earners? Sure. But it wouldn’t be appropriate to determine all those outliers were unlucky/lucky – nor is it wholly appropriate to attribute it to random chance either.

Of course not. But that’s a pretty complex example, type of degree, location, etc all come into play there. Hence the model is very broad.

Would it have been more acceptable if I said “A large chunk of statistics” instead of “all”

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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 19, 2012 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I might’ve stared at your comment with the same amount of malice, but for slightly fewer seconds if that had been the case.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Jan 19, 2012 1:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I stare at every Jib comment with malice.

Maybe.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 19, 2012 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Shift R^2 all your asses!

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by Hopfenkopf on Jan 19, 2012 2:57 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Is this student smoking marijuana?

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jan 18, 2012 6:00 PM MST up reply actions  

smarmy bastard

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Jan 18, 2012 7:41 AM MST up reply actions  

You’re not going to correct the phrase are you?

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 7:51 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m tired of three point games in the West….
last night three teams fighting the Avs for a spot picked up points….
detroit 3-2 Dallas in SO
LA 3-2 Vancouver in SO
San Jose 2-1 Calgary in SO

At least both Minny and Edmonton lost in regulation….

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

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by Americanario on Jan 18, 2012 7:36 AM MST up reply actions  

The Avs have been a part of so many of these 3-point games…they aren’t doing themselves any favors

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 7:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Avs went over an entire calendar year without winning back to back regulation games. They’ve been a 3 point game lock for a while now. Even when they go on “winning streaks” they are giving up points.

This is a critical time for the Avalanche. Post Christmas hockey has been really inconsistent so far. Right now, things feel sloppy and pretty crappy to be frank. But, it was only just January 6th when the Avs went in to Chicago and blanked a really good Chicago team 4-0. In that game Jones and Galiardi scored big goals. I think with Duchene out, the Avs need some secondary scoring if they are going to compete because Hejduk and Stastny are not consistent. I think you can count on O’Reilly and Landeskog getting a couple of good scoring chances every game. They don’t score every time but they are getting the chances. Until Mueller can beat his buzzard’s luck, Stastny needs to get at least two or more quality scoring chances every game. Then GallyMcClemeWinnickSew are absolutely essential pieces to produce a couple of scoring chances every game. Usually your GallyMcClemeWinnickSews are just complementary players but with the thin scoring depth on the Avs for better or worse they need to chip in goals.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 AM MST up reply actions  

very well put, I think having SOB back will help us a ton

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

I guess I’d rather have GallyMcClemeWinnickSew than herpagonnasyphylaids.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Minny got steamrolled last night and Calgary lost Glencross.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 7:48 AM MST up reply actions  

But but but….they have Cammeleri now!!

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 7:55 AM MST up reply actions  

DAMNIT. I forgot they added the missing piece to a Stanley Cup run.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 7:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Their Stanley Cup (turn tail and) runs in recent years have been less than successful.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 8:16 AM MST up reply actions  

Jokinen says “what?”

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 8:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Waffles!!

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 8:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes sir!

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 8:16 AM MST up reply actions  

Did you see some of the Kipper highlights last night though? He stole that point for the Flames.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 9:09 AM MST up reply actions  

So did the goal post.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 9:13 AM MST up reply actions  

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=612208 We need to donate 135-145 gallons and we will be alright.

by Ilkinio on Jan 18, 2012 7:40 AM MST reply actions  

I think you mean 135000 to 145000 gallons, since it’s 1000 gallons per goal, only 135 gallons would mean we get a lucky goal and that’s it for the rest of the year, heh

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I won’t be around for the preview thread, well much of it. The GDT however I shall be around for. See you all come game time.

The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.

by Randy Time on Jan 18, 2012 8:23 AM MST reply actions  

OT

But with all the legal minds that frequent here I am wondering opinions on sopa and pipa fr

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 8:25 AM MST via Android app reply actions  

From a legal perspective

Stupid phone btw

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 8:26 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Thanks mr whores as I have followed it quite a bit lately didnt at first because never thought it would get this far it still confuses me with alot of the legal speak and like you said with current broadness of it how far it “could” go is dedinately scary

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 9:08 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

It’s interesting because people either love or hate a complex, badly-written, overly-broad bill depending on the purpose. People appluaded the Health Care bill because they agreed with it’s purpose even though it was just as badly written and broad. Here, a lot of people are up in arms because it’s badly-written and complex and broad.

I am not comparing the two bills, only pointing out people judge differently depening on the bill’s purpose.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 9:12 AM MST up reply actions  

I guess I am in later because both are bad imo

I think they both go about the fix in wrong ways also

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 9:26 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

To be candid, I still believe IP-law needs to be adjusted, but as a conservative both SOPA and PIPA are a blatant example of government over-reach and intervention.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 9:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Definitely agree but as I said they are going about it the wrong way

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

There is a huge legal issue going on (Internet IP-Law). Every lawyer would admit it. I have my own views on the cause and the solution and SOPA/PIPA is the standard Big Government/1984 (good call Cheryl) solution.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

As someone who both uses the internet and understands how it works, both SOPA and PIPA are blatant examples of rich old white guys writing laws about shit they don’t understand, mostly because some lobbying group paid them to do so.

Oh yeah, and too much government over-reach and intervention too.

No soup for you!

by creamy on Jan 18, 2012 9:39 AM MST up reply actions  

but as a conservative an American both SOPA and PIPA are a blatant example of government over-reach and intervention.

I don’t think that opinion is exclusive to conservatives…

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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

I didn’t say it was. I was saying that my disagreement with government over-reach stems from my conservative values. Though it is not exclusive to conservatives, by reasoning for disliking it is.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 10:27 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe I should have put the wink smily on there

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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

In pragmatic terms, U.S. protection of IP can be terribly ineffective in general, not just on the internet. It would be much more effective if the government could determine when and where to prioritize its efforts before trying to craft policy to regulate a complex environment like the internet.

As more of a classical liberal, I think the system should put a relatively greater focus on economic incidence rather than personal property rights. The primary purpose of IP should be to encourage innovation and thus economic growth. Innovations/technology that are inherently costly (time, money, resources) to develop should be afforded greater IP protection (e.g. pharmaceuticals, engineering, etc.). Otherwise, innovations requiring less costly development (e.g. art, music, etc.) should not be protected to a degree that it sacrifices a utilitarian well-being. That’s not to say it should be abandoned wholly.

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by MalachiConstant on Jan 18, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

. It would be much more effective if the government could determine when and where to prioritize its efforts before trying to craft policy to regulate a complex environment like the internet.

I agree whole heartedly on this point. But asking the government to prioritize is a systemic impossibility in this day an age. There are some better alternatives in theory; one being where each individual state takes up it’s own legislation in an attempt to solve the IP issues and in a few years one or more of the plans will be remarkably effective. While that happens, people and businesses will move the states where there is a postiive regulatory environment (viz. Delware for businesses) and then the US Government can adopt similar legislation nationwide.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

asking the government to prioritize is a systemic impossibility in this day an age

And I agree whole heartedly in turn.

each individual state takes up it’s own legislation in an attempt to solve the IP issues
While that happens, people and businesses will move the states where there is a postiive regulatory environment

Classic Tiebout. Tends to work remarkably well.

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by MalachiConstant on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Sometimes it fails miserably when not given enough time, sometimes a state like Oregon tries a bunch of wacky welfare ideas and one of them works amazingly.

A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.

by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Pft, political economy theory only fails when not executed correctly. That’s what’s great about political economists — they’re always f*cking right and never feel the need to supply empirical evidence.

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by MalachiConstant on Jan 18, 2012 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

phew, i thought you were saying conservatives were american and liberals weren’t, heh

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

That why when I use something, I parody it, it gets me off the hook.

Peter McNabb thinks I'm outstanding.

by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Or have others parody it for u

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 9:48 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

What you talkin about willis?

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Worst defense post that was inspired by u

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 9:50 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Not really, it doesn’t. Plagiarism includes the theft of an idea. Parodying something could be considered plagiarism if someone wanted to pursue it. The generalities these bills seem to have would give people that leeway.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

By my understanding, satire and parody are generally considered “fair use.”

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

It’s a slippery slope. Depends on how it’s used and how much of the original is included. Generally, it’s not something someone would pursue. But this legislation might invite it.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Sorry Cheryl, but plagiarism is taking someone else’s work/idea and claiming it as your own. If you copy what someone says for the purpose of commentary in the form of satire or parody, then you are not claiming the person’s work as your own.

I stole the Copper N’ Blue idea but I am not claiming it as my own because I am adding my own commentary and it is clearly used for the purpose of parody.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

You are giving credit where it’s due. That is not plagiarism. I didn’t include that part (i.e, giving credit) because, well, I figured people were bright enough to know I wasn’t including stuff that is, you know, cited and shit.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

But this was in response to UM. Amost every sort of parody is not plagiarism because there is no claim that is your own work. The essence of parody negates plagiarism.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Generally, yes. That is why it is not pursued. However, there have been instances where people have taken issue with parody. I will try to find articles on those I read about.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 AM MST up reply actions  

They can take issue with it but they are usually wrong. It does become an issue when the parody/satire is not obvious and apparent. That issue was made clear in Hustler v. Falwell.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Exactly. And the generalities in those bills, as I understand them, might provide more leeway in determining whether it really is or it really isn’t.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

Part of the problem is that SOPA/PIPA allows IP owners to issue take down notices without judicial review. If something is parody, but the owner doesn’t like it, they’ll issue the order and it’s up to the creator of the parody and his ISP to fight it in court. Guilty until proven innocent.

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Thank you for that. It is much clearer than my babbling.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, that makes more sense now; I see what you are going for. Even if SOPA passed, that rewirting of the parody standard would be tried in court right away would absolutely be called unconsititunional in my opinion and most legal experts’ opinions. Changing jurisprudence like that, in a sweeping nature, usually gets killed.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh I see what your saying now. With regard to parody, I think the Hustler standard is still applied fairly. I can see now how it might be skewed on the internet and how this bill would change that. However, if the bill was interpreted to change the Hustler standard there would be a Supreme Court issue going on.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Haha.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 10:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Parody detector is in the green.

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

©

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 10:27 AM MST up reply actions  

you are super intelligent good sir

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Not really, you pay a lot of money for law school and understanding this is an outcrop. But moreover, I deal with FINRA, OFAC, the SEC, and the OCC all bloody day. I do financial compliance for a hedge fund and reading and understanding how these bills will apply to the firm is my job. It’s like the engineers here talking about engineering-y things; it’s second nature.

I was trying to explain it in a non-political way which is often hard.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

you are still super intelligent

that’s stuff that I could never deal with but everyone has their niche, mine is Animal Behavior and Ecology.

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Well that’s pretty cool in my opinion. Does that explain your rotating avatar’s of pokemon characters?

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

He has to know which would have the Behavior most likely to kill the other team’s Pokemon or something right?

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

hahaha, no, I love pokemon, grew up with it. It started maybe like 3 or 4 weeks ago, I would figure what type of pokemon would represent the other team (for example, for the lightning, it would be electric) and I would match up a ground type against it so we could win. It worked a little, but then I got the teams like the Stars, etc, and was like uhhhhhhhh. Animal Behavior is just rooted to classes I took in undergrad and my huge love for animals.

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:38 AM MST up reply actions  

We are playing the panthers. What would be good against a large cat? Is there a pokemon of a spray water bottle or a vaccum cleaner?

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Well, the only cats of the original 151 are Meowth and Persian, so I imagine myself changing to a fighting type such as Machamp, Hitmonlee or Hitmonchan.

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:43 AM MST up reply actions  

Make the change.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

it has been done

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Machamp

Will land 2 Karate Chops after taking a Slash from Persian, but then finishing it off with a monstrous Seismic Toss

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by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

....you are such a dork

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I prefer geek, but dork is acceptable as well.

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by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 12:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Really!

I’ve always been the other way. Geek has always felt so…slimy. Vastly prefer nerd over anything else but dork is fine, too.

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I see geeks and nerds as being smart, I see dorks as being just losers, hahaha. All terms of endearment here at MHH!

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 12:26 PM MST up reply actions  

That's so funny

Any reason for the difference in opinion? Mine is completely arbitrary.

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:28 PM MST up reply actions  

mainly arbitrary but a dork is also another name for a whale’s penis… so yea….

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by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions  

That's manly as hell

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Tim Tebow thinks you should change this to “manly as heaven”

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 1:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Charles Darwin thinks you should change it to Manly as Evolution by means of natural selection.

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by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Darwin would’ve just been cool with ‘Manly as a whale penis’. It is the pinnacle of penis.

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by MalachiConstant on Jan 18, 2012 1:16 PM MST up reply actions  

50 first dates tells me that walrus penis is the largest.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 1:26 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

yet the barnacle is the largest when considering proportion to the body

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by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

I wouldn’t know, I’ve never seen it.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 3:47 PM MST up reply actions  

actually a pretty funny movie.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 5:02 PM MST up reply actions  

I think I actually own it. I own way too many movies. It’s rather sad.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 5:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Gives you something to do at least.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Meh

I’ve been watching Planet Earth lately (yeah, I’m a nerd). Plus with Netflix…

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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 5:14 PM MST up reply actions  

I have that on blueray, it’s sweet.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

see i am with him i prefer geek or g33k being most people refer to me as a computer geek specially working in IT field it means you know your stuff guess its my background though dork for me generally dork means cheesey humor which i have been called too

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Only on MHH can you get the computer games guy and pokeman guy calling each other dork and nerd and the rest of us stay quiet. (yes I know it was not serious and all in fun)

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

ahahahahahahaha

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 2:22 PM MST up reply actions  

If they are wailing on each other, what in the world could the rest of us add that would contribute?

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 3:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I just let them duke it out, and then go for the pin.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 3:47 PM MST up reply actions  

You havea thing for nerds and dorks? I would have guessed your taste differently.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL, I seriously think I don’t have a type.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 3:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Everyone has a type. Even if you don’t consciously know what it is your psyche in combination with your pheramone receptors does.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 4:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, then. I don’t know my type. Although, I do tend to go for “manly”. Don’t know if that’s really a type or not…

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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 4:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Well manly is defined by whatever you think of as something a man should do or should be doing. Some women think someone is manly if they make a lot of money whereas other think that if some guy can chew on barbed wire. To each her own.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 4:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I can make my own money. Don’t need a man for that.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 4:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Ah, it’s the barbed wire type then…

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 4:23 PM MST up reply actions  

That is awfully attractive?

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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 4:26 PM MST up reply actions  

It would certainly scar

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Jan 18, 2012 4:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Scars can be hot, just ask RoB.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 4:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Nicely done.

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by MalachiConstant on Jan 18, 2012 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Im not a legal mind

but I spend a pretty significant amount of time on the internet and this SOPA/PIPA bullshit is all kinds of bad. That bills this draconian can make it this far into the process is extremely troublesome. The outcry against them has been magnificent, though.

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Lol I had feeling u would comment and I totally agree very scary it got this far

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 8:51 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Like essentially everyone else

My activism extends just to the causes that effect me. This has been something I’ve followed throughout most of the process. Gotta love Lamar Smith blatantly stealing the background picture for his website, giving more evidence to the theory that most of the big advocates of this bill don’t really understand it.

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 9:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh, hey lookie there

Speaking of Lamar Smith….

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 9:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I am not a legal expert, but even from my layperson’s point of view, SOPA and PIPA are terribly-written pieces of legislation.

The bottom line is that the MPAA and RIAA should focus more on innovation and less on litigation.

No soup for you!

by creamy on Jan 18, 2012 9:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Without litigation, you don’t create the proper platform for innovation unfortunately.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 AM MST up reply actions  

But they have always just tried to take easy way out so nothing new there

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 9:10 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

It might help if you go on the Library of Congress and read about the Bill’s legislative history. It will give you some background as to it’s origins and realize this sort of bill (in whatever form) has been in the pipeline for years. Both Bush and Obama would have vetoed this even though they both knew IP-legilsation is BADLY needed.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 9:17 AM MST up reply actions  

It is very difficult for people and businesses to change and especially radically change. Organizations/buisnesses like the MPAA and RIAA will fight and claw till there dying breath to hold on to old business models that just don’t work in new situations. Occasionally some businesses change and are successful, but not a lot of them. Some even try to change and still fail.

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 9:35 AM MST up reply actions  

I think this is the key issue. You have the music and film industries along with the dead-tree book publishers trying to hold on to a business model. At the same time, you have the musicians, actors/producers, and writers who should be compensated fairly for their creations.

SOPA/PIPA are designed to maintain the industry that lives of the creations of a few. What should be happening is finding ways to protect those who actually create something, and ensure they receive fair compensation for the use of their creations. The music/film/book publishing industries are dinosaurs in the internet age.

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

The outcry against them has been magnificent, though.

It’s still shocking to me that people who frequent the internet can get this worked up over an issue

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions  

are you implying us internet users are lazy ?

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

excitable

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

What do I think of it?
Give the people contests they win by remembering the words to more popular songs or the names of state capitals or how much corn Iowa grew last year. Cram them full of non-combustible data, chock them so damned full of ‘facts’ they feel stuffed, but absolutely ‘brilliant’ with information. Then they’ll feel they’re thinking, they’ll get a sense of motion without moving. And they’ll be happy, because facts of that sort don’t change. Don’t give them any slippery stuff like philosophy or sociology to tie things up with. That way lies melancholy
Those who don’t build must burn.
“What a dreadful surprise,” said Beatty. “For everyone nowadays knows, absolutely is certain, that nothing will ever happen to me. Others die, I go on. There are no consequences and no responsibilities. Except that there are. But let’s not talk about them, eh? By the time the consequences catch up with you, it’s too late, isn’t it, Montag?”
There was a silly damn bird called a Phoenix back before Christ: every few hundred years he built a pyre and burned himself up. He must have been first cousin to Man. But every time he burnt himself up he sprang out of the ashes, he got himself born all over again. And it looks like we’re doing the same thing, over and over, but we’ve got one damn thing the Phoenix never had. We know the damn silly thing we just did. We know all the damn silly things we’ve done for a thousand years, and as long as we know that and always have it around where we can see it, some day we’ll stop making the goddam funeral pyres and jumping into the middle of them. We pick up a few more people that remember, every generation.

Just like it did with 1984, this world is getting too close to Fahrenheit 451.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 9:23 AM MST up reply actions  

Book/Phoenix… are we talking about Harry Potter?

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by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

That, 1984 and Footloose (yes, Footloose) got me all riled up about censorship and government control to the point of protesting. lol.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions  

What scares me now are the similarities.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 1:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah

I actually just got it again to re-read it.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions  

I think it's simple

Basically, even if the author of this idea has merit… it’s technically naive to think it would work.

Ignore the consitutionality of it and just assume SOPA has merit and is legal.

Like gun control, drug law and DRM it simply won’t work. It’s the ICANN high address level equivalent of blocking email based on sender address. The true criminals of intellectual property will beat it.

IE. Proxy or zombie a host of computers in Canada from your pirate movie operation in China. US discovers intellectual property violation from a Canadian IP. No way ICANN puts a high level DNS block on Canada.

In the end is simply unenforceable and like DRM, Gun laws etc… it punishes the law abiders, not the breakers.

Which just leads to more problems because Government will then create a department tasked with administering this kind of thing. Legitimate users of the Internet like say an ex-pat from Thailand that wants to see local news and has to deal with a block will just bounce his connection and get through anyway. Like DRM, there will be a very short learning curve for the bad guys to beat it and a longer more painful learning curve for legal users. It punishes the totally wrong set of users.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 9:23 AM MST up reply actions  

This should not be a surprise. Almost every sweeping regulation punishes the law abiders. Dodd-Frank is fucking up my world right now and all it’s doing is punishing my trader who doing their job legally.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 9:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Couldnt put it better myself Dario

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 9:33 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Something about these bills that hasn't been mentioned yet...

Is how it strains resources of both existing websites and upcoming start-ups.

For existing websites, they suddenly have to recruit lawyers to be ready in case some take-down notice is handed down, and they need to be sure everything is done correctly. Also, the bill basically requires that ALL SITES have to be self-regulating. Some one (or many someones) would have to monitor every post in every SBN thread for possible copyright infringments in perpetuity. Those fun photochops that we do? They might all be deleted just to avoid the possibility of legal action taken against the site. All links have to be monitored; if someone puts up a link to a legitimate website, relevant and free of infringement, but some other part of that site was “condoning” piracy in some way, the link might have to be taken down even tho neither SBN, nor the person that posted the link, nor the guy who wrote the original article did anything wrong. The wording is just that broad.

For startups that don’t have any stake in the web as of yet, they have to build in tools for censorship as they go along. They have to be sure that the new site is totally monitored just like the existing ones, but they often don’t have the resources to do that. They have to contact lawyers to make sure that their ‘big, new idea’ isn’t going to be potentially shut down due to some caveat or interpretation of the loosely-worded bill. And, most importantly, Angle and Venture investors that would usually put money into these firms hoping one would turn into the next About.com won’t bother doing it because of the higher possibility that websites can be shut down. Why put money into something when it can be shuttered because some users over which they have no control post something infringing? It just wouldn’t make business sense for them, and I can’t blame them.

The restrictions on innovation and the threat to the free-and-open form of the internet scare me much more than the possibility of full-site censorship blackouts.

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by mfured20 on Jan 18, 2012 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Fuck, I misspelled Angel.

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by mfured20 on Jan 18, 2012 10:53 AM MST up reply actions  

You do realize that makes your entire post null and void, right?

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 11:01 AM MST up reply actions  

I know, hence the ‘fuck’

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by mfured20 on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Un-insured poster

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Adding to the discussion

PIPA is essentially dead now. Marco Rubio just pulled his support of PIPA. Why he even threw support originally is beyond me but now that he’s out, few other Republicans will vote for it.

Great news if you’re against it.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 12:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Yo, if you are looking for a little bit more info on PIPA and SOPA at the basic level, including some history on copyright infringement, check out this video – http://www.ted.com/talks/defend_our_freedom_to_share_or_why_sopa_is_a_bad_idea.html

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by mfured20 on Jan 18, 2012 1:18 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

TED!

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

thanks will check it out when i get off

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 2:00 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Amazing no one thought to ask about this

Thanks Freak for mentioning it in your post, this hadn’t even crossed my mind yet, but will PIPA and SOPA have any affect on internet porn?

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

enormous

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 3:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Dixie Normous?

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by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 3:14 PM MST up reply actions  

huMANGous big.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Very much so specially if you are a user of alot of the Free sites out there if your a subscriber you shouldn’t have a problem

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 4:45 PM MST up reply actions  

It’ll also make things a bit tougher for those of you that need video feeds for games.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 5:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Only when they are on Vs or it seems like half the Yotes games for some reason

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 5:08 PM MST up reply actions  

But that also makes me wonder,

What does this do for all the streaming sites that do Video game feeds and cover tourney’s and such could end up killing them completely

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 5:09 PM MST up reply actions  

For sure.

Unless they own the rights to broadcast them.

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by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 5:14 PM MST up reply actions  

I predict a .000004 second lapse between these sites being shut down and reopened with a work around. Never underestimate the power of the porn community.

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by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 5:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Porn companies run the world. DVDs weren’t big until Porn started to use them, and now Bluray is getting bigger because the porn industry has started making their productions on bluray as well.

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 5:29 PM MST up reply actions  

This is the reason for the 3D push as well…?

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 5:31 PM MST up reply actions  

3D has found it’s way into the pornography industry, but 3D will only become real big, once they start selling Bluray in 3D. THEN you will see a large increase in those, and in 3D TVs

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 5:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Porn is also responsible for the quick adoption of broadband internet service … or so I hear.

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by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 5:52 PM MST up reply actions  

hell adult chat rooms is what made AOL popular

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 9:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Facebook is for stalking your friends, twitter is for stalking celebrities, myspace is for stalking underage girls, and the rest is just porn. No wonder porn has led to so many advances.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 11:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Just watched that was great breakdown of it thanks again man

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 4:44 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s official, as a February 1, my radio station is going spanish language. I still have a job on a sister station, but instead of being a news guy full time, I become a glorified traffic guy who also does news. That kind of sucks…plus the loss of covering Blackhawks games.

But I’ll thank the good people upstairs that I have a job still

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by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 8:32 AM MST reply actions  

Job good
Sucks no more hawks though

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 8:49 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

lo siento, mi amigo :-(

No soup for you!

by creamy on Jan 18, 2012 9:03 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I will say it again,

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Sorry, Chia.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 9:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Well that blows.

If you don’t mind, let me give you some advice on traffic reporting. You will always be right if you say, “Traffic is stop and go on the blah”. The sports radio traffic update on the station I listen to says this EVERY MORNING.

If you want to get innovative and ahead of the traffic.com stuff, check out an app called waze. Free turn by turn voice directions as a bonus (no Magellen or TomTom $60 fee or whatever it is).

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 9:31 AM MST up reply actions  

I use a lot of “slow” “heavy” “tapping the brakes”

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by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 11:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Throw in a random “massive toxic spill” here and there just to spice things up.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

The only strange ones I have had so far was “Coyote stuck in median”…and “Deer jumped on hood of car, disabling vehicle”

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by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 12:29 PM MST up reply actions  

He's a boss

He once managed to find a place for Godzilla per my request. <3 foeva

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I gotta get more requests for strange traffic throw in’s

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by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

where’s waldo
dodo bird
venus flytrap
lady gaga
pumpernickel bread
betamax
narcolepsy
pygmy monkeys

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 12:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Lady Gaga won’t work, simply because we play TOO DAMN MUCH of her music

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by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

y so jerkface

dont hold it against her she was born this way. just put on ur best p-p-poker face and hope to avoid a bad romance lest ye find yourself on the edge of glory

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 1:16 PM MST up reply actions  

That was almost painful, but in a funny way

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 1:18 PM MST up reply actions  

The backup for no obvious reason should be a “Waldo sighting.”

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 1:20 PM MST up reply actions  

“Wolski sighting”

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Jan 18, 2012 4:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Guy in a Red Wing jersey hit on the freeway. 44 times.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 5:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry to hear that, hopefully eveyrthing will get better for you. You could always try moving to Iowa and working for AM 1600 here in Cedar Rapids, all sports all the time.

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Tomas Fleischman, Kris Versteeg and Brian Campbell have 106 points, just 78 more than Shane O’Brien, Jan Hejda and Joaqim Lindstrom

big frickin deal, so we would have to lost to Phoenix 6 to 4 instead of 6 to 1 and St Louis 4 to 2 instead of 4 to 0 and Nashville 4 to 3 instead of 4 to 1. Big fricken deal

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 9:11 AM MST reply actions  

heh

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 AM MST up reply actions  

And you completely forgot about Kobasew. I SAID, YOU COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT KOBASEW!

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

who?

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Our leading goal scorer for the week of January 15th so far.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 10:02 AM MST up reply actions  

bullshit

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:04 AM MST up reply actions  

its a close 1 goal differential though

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 10:07 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Here’s a question:

How in the hell did McCleod go -3 in only 8 minutes of ice time? Some buzzard’s luck there for sure but… damn.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

He’s such an asset though

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

funny, I KNEW I was forgetting someone but couldn’t figure it out

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Kobasew is like a non-contact concussion. It’s not your fault.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 AM MST up reply actions  

cuz he sucks

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:09 AM MST up reply actions  

not that +/- is a measurable statistic to how good a player is, but he sucks anyways

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Stats question, can I find on the interwebs how many games Anderson had played at this point two years ago?

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 9:41 AM MST reply actions  

you could look at the MHH archives at the old preview threads

by Skijumper on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions  

http://www.milehighhockey.com/2010/11/2/1788348/avalanche-2010-2011-line-combos-and-defensive-pairings

+

http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/a/andercr01/gamelog/2011/

he played 6 games after game 47 and 33 total with the Avs, so 27 total through this point

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 18, 2012 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

I vaguely remember him playing in just about every game, it must have come later in the year.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 AM MST up reply actions  

those are the 2010-11, he was looking for the 09-10 season i think

by Skijumper on Jan 18, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions  

yes.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Lindstrom wasn’t frugality. Lindstrom was blatant stupidity.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 9:47 AM MST reply actions  

But he was top scorer in SEL

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 9:49 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Lindstrom was to small of a sample size and never really given a good chance to succeed.

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

I saw enough of him to know this: If you want a guy to stand around on both ends watching his teammates, someone who generally avoids contact at all costs, then Lindstrom is your man! He was that horrible. Arnason played with more fire.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Have to agree for most part he looked lost and didnt know what to do his goals we mostly being lucky being in right place when puck bounced to him

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 10:02 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

He was awesome at Shinny thought.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 AM MST up reply actions  

he was a gamble and one that was worthwhile imo but gambling everything on him was the stupidly frugal part always have an out if things go wrong with a gamble like that which sherminator didnt unless it was subasew which is dumb also

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Which was more irresponsible? Sherman giving Lindstrom a min contract chance in training camp or Sacco tossing him on a line with Stastny from day one of training camp and never changing that through the preseason until he yanked sat him as a healthy scratch for opening night?

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Lindstrom was top 6 or bust, you know that. He didn’t have a defensive bone in his body. See no problem putting him with Sacco from the start.

I don’t mind the move, it didn’t work out and I didn’t think it would. The real negligence, of course, comes from the Avs not covering their bases and having other viable options at wing.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed. They were banking on him as insurance for Mueller being out. In a word, dumberthanhell.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Well, it’s a personal preference thing with the entire training camp where they spent a valuble three days of zero changes. Dutch centered Jones and Mueller too. The only line that really held together and took that momentum in to the season was O’Reilly centering Landeskog and Winnick. Even in that case Landeskog never once took a shift with Duchene. Maybe his philosphy is the right one but I think chemestry really does exist and it’s pretty tone deaf to me to watch all that training camp hockey and not test things.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

I’ve never been fully on the fire Sacco bandwagon, but you do more to sway me than most with your arguments. I still think he’s been saddled with pretty minimal forward talent. Especially when you consider how underwhelming Stats and Duchene have been. But yes, utilizing training camp and the preseason to tinker with lineups seems like it would have made sense.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions  

It might also be a matter of internal politics. If Sacco couldn’t stand the way Lindstrom played, and wanted to sit him for the regular season, he stuck him on Stastny’s line through the entire pre-season so that Sherman couldn’t say he didn’t get a shot. Lindstrom is now back in Sweden. Problem solved.

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Pretty minimal? PRETTY MINIMAL? The Teej has 12 points. Kobasew has 10. Yip and Mueller combined for 0 points in 16 games. Pretty minimal?

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

PLAYOFFS?

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions  

OK. Godfrickingawful.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Fun Sad Fact: If Hejduk goes without a point tonight, he will be on a scoring pace even with what Lindstrom put up over their last 16 games as an Avs’ players. And Hejduk is playing with the Avs’ best forward through most of that. Yuck.

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by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

TOLD you Lindstrom was awesome!

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Lindstrom = Hejduk!

You know, maybe I should abort the “What’s up with Paul Stastny” thing and change it to “What’s up with Milan Hejduk?”

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Jan 18, 2012 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Also makes you wonder who is pulling what strings? I could tell from the first time I saw him in a real NHL game that he wasn’t an NHL player. I can’t help but think that Sacco saw that too? His last game in an Av uni was a doozy. I remember him standing around even when he could have and should have been helping his teammates to keep the puck in the zone. Just completely worthless.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Ultimately it’s the GM’s decision who gets paid to play hockey. It’s the coach’s decision who steps on the ice for any given game. Obviously since the coach works for the GM, there might be some influence, but that’s how it’s supposed to work. Also, a coach will know if someone works well for his system, and may suggest that certain players be recruited (or let go).

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 AM MST up reply actions  

It can’t be both?

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Good point.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 9:58 AM MST up reply actions  

But, was it stupid frugality, or frugal stupidity? This is the real question.

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Frupidity has a nice ring to it.

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by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Stugality

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Jan 18, 2012 11:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Bullshit Bob. Bullshit.

Signing Lindstrom to a LEAGUE MINIMUM CONTRACT as the leading scorer in the second best hockey league in the world was not blatant stupidity. It was very clever in point of fact.

Now, relying on him to be one of a very few long-shot options to the dire need for top 6 wingers, that, my friend, was blatant stupidity – or better said, Pyrrhic avarice.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

For the more stats inclined a question: How many more wins would the avs have if Giggy had Varly’s starts and vice versa. I’m way too lazy to figure it out myself and I’m really more of an ‘idea’ guy than a grunt.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 10:08 AM MST reply actions  

If Giggy had all Varly’s starts and had the same stats as he does now – he would have conceded 62 goals rather Varly’s 89 goals. This is a decrease of 27 goals.

According to the Wins Versus Threshold stat – 6 extra/less goals is what is required to ensure a victory. In this instance, Giggy would have had about 5 extra wins than Varly (4.48).

So there you go…

by HugoAgogo on Jan 18, 2012 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

because the team plays the same in front of both goalies…..

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

In reality, I don’t think there would be that much of a difference. As you state – the Avs do tend to play differently in front of Giguere (ie the Avs outshoot the opposition by about 3.5 shots per 60 minutes) than Varlamov (i.e. the Avs are outshot by the opposition by about 1 shot per 60 minutes). I would question whether this result is somewhat due to the quality of teams each goalie is getting matched against.

But according to An Unmitigated Disaster’s hypothetical scenario, about 5 extra wins would result if Giguere had all Varly’s starts and maintained his stats.

by HugoAgogo on Jan 18, 2012 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Then again

the GA is almost a full goal… which is not good for Varly.

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 3:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Or my fantasy team…

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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed. The truth is probably some where in between – I would say a 1-2 win difference would be a more reasonable guestimate, all things considered.

by HugoAgogo on Jan 18, 2012 3:55 PM MST up reply actions  

it’s probably a bit less since Varly would have fewer wins (1-3) than Giggy.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 3:44 PM MST up reply actions  

If you ask the Goalie Guild, that’s because Varly doesn’t control the puck as well.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Jan 18, 2012 4:41 PM MST up reply actions  

But it wasn’t because Varly was deficient, Giggy is just a master at it according to G.G.

by vtcapsfan99 on Jan 18, 2012 4:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Holy Howard. Did not see that coming. Who’s going to be called up, then? Or is there a trade looming. The questions!!!!

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Is it because we have people coming back from IR and someone has to go? Maybe Elliot is not going down and we are going to keep 8 defensemen, 2 eating nachos.

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Good point.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM MST up reply actions  

rant alert – it REALLY drives me crazy that this information can’t be made publicly available

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 AM MST up reply actions  

you call that a rant?

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 10:46 AM MST up reply actions  

That’s your rant?

What info are you talking about? How McKenzie always seems to have the waiver info before anyone else?

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions  

insider info

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 18, 2012 10:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I’ve heard rumors that he actually runs the waiver wire for the NHL.

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 10:56 AM MST up reply actions  

I give that 0.1 Dans. I think I have heard people who are deaf and mute rant better than that.

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

There goes the cornerstone of so many trades …

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 10:14 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

PIT is looking for talent while Crosby is out. Just wait. They’ll be claiming Yip.

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

No they won’t. I have their word, they will wait til Crosby is done fighting werewolves and available to play hockey.

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by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

that means SOB is reactivated and they are keeping Elliott.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Or was SOB already activated.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM MST up reply actions  

ok. That makes sense.

I don’t think they would want Elliott in his development to eat nachos. That means ROB, Quincey or even Hejda rides the pine I would think.

I know I’m in the minority but I’d sit ROB.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m with ya. Sit ROB.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 AM MST up reply actions  

But he’s better than a 6th defenseman! Or so I’ve recently heard. Although I’d sit Elliot. He’s been pretty brutal for a while now.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m looking at type of player, though. O’Brien is not a puck-moving defenseman. Neither is ROB. Elliott is. Although he hasn’t been producing lately, the likelihood that he will is higher than that of OB or ROB, I would suspect.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:27 AM MST up reply actions  

SOB is like, half puck moving and half not, he is bipolar

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by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Also, we’re not winning the cup or even making the playoffs this year. Elliott has a much longer future with this team than ROB. Play Elliott. Let him learn at game speed.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

We’ll have some space once SOB gets dealt at the trade deadline.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Doubtful.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 12:13 PM MST up reply actions  

What’s doubtful? You don’t think we’ll have room on the blueline, or you don’t think we’ll trade SOB?

If we’re out of the playoffs by the trade deadline, I absolutely hope we’re looking at picking up a 2nd or a 3rd for SOB.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I think that if the Avs fall from the playoff picture then they’ll be a lot of trades, including SoS. But if they hovering in 10th or 9th or close enough, then I don’t see them doing anything but adding.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Then they’re retarded.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 12:46 PM MST up reply actions  

If they are in 9th spot at the deadline why would they trade players for picks?

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 12:48 PM MST up reply actions  

We aren't making a Cup run

and this draft is the GOD OF GODS draft, remember? We neeeeeeed to load up on mid round picks and let UBER GENIUS Pracey get to business.

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:49 PM MST up reply actions  

If they can make the playoffs, they should. SImple as that. I don’t see how trading SOB at the deadline, when he’s useful, is helping the team get the 8th spot.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Uber Genious Pracey?
He of injured Duchene
Suspect Elliott
Joey “the concussion” Hishon
and Bleacher Report hates Duncan Seimens
plus Aittokallio couldnt even win WJC.

Looks like the SUXXORZ TO ME

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

meh, 5/10

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by SteveHouse on Jan 18, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Because buying at the deadline is often an overpayment and because even if this team manages to make the playoffs this year they’re not going to go anywhere.

I’ll remember SOB fondly for playing his ass off for 55 games, but I’ll remember him even more fondly if that draft choice we get for him turns into anything.

Let’s let Stastny and Duchene and Varly and all the other underachievers pull their heads firmly out of their asses and be ready to go next year. That’s when we need to think about making a serious playoff push.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Ok that’s fine, i get that. Adding was probably the wrong word to use. Why does it matter how far they will go this year if they make the playoffs. They just should try to make it. They shouldn’t mail it in because they are in 9th and likely won’t go far.

Of course, i am not advocating the Flames tactic of thinking every team is a Stanley Cup winner, but I just think trying to make the playoffs is the most important thing.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t think trading SOB or McClement is mailing it in. Bring up the Imaginary Awesomeness of Cameron Gaunce and see how he does. Bring Brad Malone back up and see how he does when he’s given a bigger role. Give the future guys some valuable experience.

As much as I like Square Peg, and you know I love him, he’s not going to be the reason whether we do or don’t make the playoffs. We need our “best” players to be our best players pretty much every night. McClement and SOB can play their asses off every game the rest of the season, and it won’t mean dick if Stastny keeps laying turds the way he has done the entire season.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

We betta not trade Jay

I am not having another mancrush shipped out of town. I had to watch Shattenkirk go last year and I’m ill-prepared emotionally to keep picking favorite players.

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 1:09 PM MST up reply actions  

hmmmmm

Wolski, Shatty, McClem…if it happens, you need to start picking bad players to be your favorites. Just sayin.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 1:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I love Duchene, O'Reilly, Gaunce, Varly

this team is retardedly likable so it won’t be TOO difficult. Still :(

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I <3 HUNWICK!!!

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by Hopfenkopf on Jan 18, 2012 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

same here except sob instead of square peg loved shatty last year

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 2:02 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Stastny’s played better than Duchene…

runs

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 1:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Fine. He’s supposed to. Whatever.

He’s still played like shit, and hasn’t been nearly good enough.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope, he hasn’t… but with him it’s like “damnit fuck, that was so close”

Whereas with Duchene or Jones you’re like “um…. are these guys even playing” or worse “…fuck that’s a stupid turnover…”

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Or fuck that was a nice goal (for Duchene not Jones) as he is still tied for the team lead with out playing an ever growing chunk of the season

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 3:22 PM MST up reply actions  

We should probably sign Duchene before he pulls his head out of his ass… lowered paycheque for the win!!

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Basically what Dan said. You should maximize value and try and get a return on mid-level guys that are a dime a dozen (SOB, ROB, Hunwick, Jones, Silent Jay, Winnik, etc.). Call guys up. Evaluate talent at the NHL level. Don’t mortgage more future for a 1st round ass-whipping at the hands of Detroit/St. Louis/San Jose/Vancouver.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 3:12 PM MST up reply actions  

trading SOB

Team Downie Soft™ can’t afford to trade SOB. I know he’s going to be a UFA, and that he’s a bargain right now at his salary, but he brings an element of toughness we are severely lacking. We can’t afford to lose him, imo. Lock him up Sherm. Even to one of those long-term contracts you offer up once in a while. That’s right. Two years.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Totally agree with you here.

I’d rather trade Quincey or O’Bryne. If the Avalanche brass aren’t doing a little forecasting on defense with Barrie, Siemens, and even Gaunce who’s having a really good year in LE. Then they are going to repeat the Liles trade again, except with less return. Way less.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 1:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I read on Bleacher Report (yeah yeah I know I know) that Siemens is having a tough year. I hope that’s just an anomaly that will get straightened out soon.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

I read that too. Lost his nastiness, making mistakes. Its not over yet, tho. Just needs to get himself straight.

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by mfured20 on Jan 18, 2012 1:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Don’t worry about Siemens, he has about 8 to 10 more years to develop in to a quality NHL d-man, give him a little time.

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

i’m not worried. What I saw in camp was a dman with undeniable raw talent

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I heard Lindstrom looked good in camp, too.

(I kid, I kid.)

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 1:57 PM MST up reply actions  

You may be kidding, but it is def a reminder of the necessity of taking “camp” and “juniors” and “AHL” performance with a grain of salt when predicting NHL outcomes.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 2:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t think AHL fits in to that equation. The AHL is a men’s pro league and as close to NHL prep as you can really get. Preseason, training camp and juniors is tricky because you need to look at overage seasons, if they just have a single breakout year etc….

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Ya for example. Ryan Stoa sucks in the NHL AND the AHL

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

But TJ Hensick RULES the AHL, and sucks in the NHL.

Darren Haydar, Jason Krog…the same

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by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 3:16 PM MST up reply actions  

If they’d just give Hensick a chance? 50 points

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Well that goes without saying

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Pft, Keith Aucoin has ruled the AHL for the past 5 years

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 3:59 PM MST up reply actions  

point taken, but there are examples a plenty of guys who are stars in the A but couldn’t translate that to the bigs.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 5:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Last I asked WHLFromAbove on twitter (Blades guy) he said Siemens was doing just fine. His scoring was down but that has a lot to do with not being paired with Elliott anymore. I don’t think anyone expected Siemens to score goals.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

My hope is that he’s not concerned about impressing scouts anymore and is working on all the things the Avs tell him he needs to improve to have a shot at staying in Denver in the near future.

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by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I know from a couple of tweets that Pracey has been up to Saskatoon to talk to him.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 2:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Sort of OT, but not really, when I was at the DU Pioneers game on Friday, I chatted with a scout from the Islanders checking in on their guy.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

he say anything interesting? Did you ask about the avs at all?

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

He didn’t say much, just that he was watching other guys as well as their draft pick. He had a page of notes on DU and only a few lines on the Beavers (insert TWSS/TWHS joke here). We talked about his career (he was drafted by the Isle and played in their system, seeing some but not a lot of NHL time) and whether or not he missed playing (the competition yes, the camaraderie no cuz he gets it in his job now, the aches, pain and injuries hell no). And we talked about the altitude in Denver. That’s about it. We both were more interested in watching the game, TBH.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL what the fuck… so now players are considered bust a few months after the draft? The guy just lost his defensive partner, made team captain, AND was playing 30 god damn minutes a game…

Sometime’s Bleacher Reports… ugh… there’s some articles that are just straight ass.

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by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 3:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I also find it strange that most of articles (about half of which are hockey) are about the Detroit Red Wings or the Toronto Blue Jays…

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Easier to plagiarizer when the topics are always the same.

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by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Dude, you’re nuts. If we can get a 3rd for him, who cares if his absence allegedly makes our team softer? He’s had 3 fights this year, none of them especially impressive.

Wouldn’t mind signing him for two years, either, but I don’t see him as being a necessary part of our D going forward.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 1:57 PM MST up reply actions  

A 3rd is a little light for me…. Prefer to see a 2nd from a contender maybe

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions  

We got a 2nd for Liles though…

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think you are getting a 3rd on the high end for a player like SOB. No offense to him of course

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by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 2:05 PM MST up reply actions  

In the summer. I’d expect higher return at the deadline. I could see something like:
SOB + a 4th for a 2nd

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions  

how about a 1.5 year contract and he’s a FA next january.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 2:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Half-season contracts? Don’t give Sherman any ideas.

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by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 2:25 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

WARNING!

Fehr just put out a contract on you.

The union (Teamster) kind.

Nice knowing you.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jan 18, 2012 2:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Ppppfffhhh….he’d have to find me first. Have to go someone is knocking on my door.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 2:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Dear Hopf, as I write this, I am very sad. Our President has been overthrown and…
…replaced, by the benevolent General Fehr. All hail Fehr, and his glorious regime. Sincerly… little girl.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Took me a minute without the abrupt change in voice.

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by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 2:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Ho ho ho!

I’d sit Quincey again, maybe give Elliott a rest, definitely rest Hejda sometimes. I think they’re all candidates to sit out every now and then, but I think that, besides Elliott, Quincey is our biggest defensive liability these days.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Good point. Quincey hasn’t been good lately. At all.

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by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Elliott definitely he’s lost some confidence lately. I’ll have to watch Quincey more before I have an opinion.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 AM MST up reply actions  

OK.

I think you don’t mess with the EJ / Wilson pairing. I think those two have some good chemestry so far.

If Elliott doesn’t sit, I’d like to see O’Brien with him. I think a vet with good communication skills (looking at you Hejda) and better stay-at-home skills that Quincey will help Elliott.

That leaves Hejda with either Quincey/ROB/Hunwick. Can’t say I’m thrilled with any of that and I haven’t seen Quincey play the right side all year. Maybe Quincey does get the nacho treatment and they keep ROB.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM MST up reply actions  

It has been suggested that Hunwick is sitting.

I’m a bit concerned about Wilson, though. He sat out practice yesterday. Haven’t heard yet about morning skate today.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:55 AM MST up reply actions  

would they waive Yip still? If he’s got something going on maybe it’s not serious enough to put him on IR at least. Maybe he’s sore. I hope.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Well, if they aren’t sure, then they wouldn’t put him on IR because that would force a certain number of games he’d have to be out. They may see risking Yip on waivers as a better option than risking Wilson having to sit out so many games.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh good

So the wheel of fucknuttery where lineup choices are made based on “how guys look during warmups” from a couple years ago returns. At least this time there’s no Brett Clark option that makes you scream in agony every time he touches the ice

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:21 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I highly suspect the whole “not knowing which D-men will be in tonight” has more to do with Wilson sitting out of practice yesterday than anything. I could be completely off base. Maybe he had a dental emergency or food poisoning or overslept. But it’s a gut feeling there’s a question about his readiness to play.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 12:35 PM MST up reply actions  

We still have 8 D, though, right?

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes. Hunwick has already been identified as a probable scratch by Dater. He also said Sacco will not be rolling 7 D. Since Elliott wasn’t sent to Erie, I doubt he’ll be scratched. Also doubt Johnson will be sitting. That leaves ROB, Quincey, Hejda and Wilson as your possible nacho munchers. My fear is that they aren’t announcing/deciding who it is because they don’t know if Wilson will be ready.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 12:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Was there an update as to why Wilson didn’t practice or are we left to make asses out of you and me?

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 12:46 PM MST up reply actions  

The latter. I asked the news guys, never heard back. That’s what made me concerned too. If it’s a maintenance day or something personal, they usually will say. When it’s injury, they stay all tight lipped.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

So logic lends to Wilson being in the press box.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Fear more like. I sent another Tweet to the press peeps. I’ll pass on what I learn.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 12:54 PM MST up reply actions  

DP says Hejda on the bench tonight.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Interesting. He did have a bad few games.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

maybe it was the groin and it needs resting.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Saying a groin injury.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Well there you go. Thanks Twigg.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

o dem press bawks madmen

they think they are so amfuckng smart but we have Cheryl to sift through their wily ways. Take dat, super closed off asshole Avalanche!

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Please take meds all the time.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 12:56 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

See? Prescription drugs are fun!

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

the wheel of fucknuttery

See, this is the type of high quality stuff that truly deserves the government’s IP protection.

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by MalachiConstant on Jan 18, 2012 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Okay, good news

Wilson is fine. Practiced this morning. Is expected to play.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 12:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Yessssssss

Wheel of whatever the hell I called it earlier returnnnsssssssss

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m waiting to hear if there’s news on who sits, so you may not get your wheel of whatever you called it.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Fucknuttery

The Wheel of Fucknuttery.

That’s just begging for an andi / skatebake photochop, that is.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Whenever this photoshop gets done please make sure there’s a quality picture of Peltier in it please.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 1:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe they want to call Brophey back up or Malone…

I liked Brophey a lot for a 4th liner.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

How about Hugh Jessiman? Doesn’t he lead the team in goals? Isn’t he a former very high draft choice? Oh, sure, I doubt they’d ever do it, but I’d love it, if only because it would remind me of this guy.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 10:21 AM MST up reply actions  

heh.

Actually I don’t think Jessiman is even signed to a two way deal. He’s not on the Avalanche “In the system” roster. So I think they would have to sign him. Considering his goal scoring in Lake Erie and their winger depth they would be smart to get him on a deal asap.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Avs could easily sign him to a one year 2 way deal if they’re on good terms with LEM. Jessiman wouldn’t turn them down.

Also, watch this.

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by Chris S Roberts on Jan 18, 2012 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

I didn’t even know he was a tough guy too. Thanks.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 1:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Essentially he could take McCleod’s role but score goals. I wonder if he can skate….

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

McLeod once has McLeod’s role, and could score goals…wonder what happened to that guy?

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

He was the 1st/2nd line winger of the 2nd worst team in the league when he scored those goals.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 2:25 PM MST up reply actions  

He still scored them. As for Jessiman, I have seen him play a bunch, and while he has been good at times in the AHL, I just don’t see him cracking an NHL roster for very long

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by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Brophey was good but why when we have been sitting vdg unless ther is fear some one will snipe vdg on waivers which i think is possible

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 10:25 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

VDG will play tonight.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Where did you hear that, Scoop?

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 AM MST up reply actions  

I was at practice yesterday. He was playing on a line with Kobasew and McLeod. Porter and Yip were in green jerseys. Usually those are the guys that sit. VDG had been wearing the green when Porter was in the line up.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Nice. Using your powers of observation and deduction.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions  

It happens on occasion. =)

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Actually, I’m kinda wondering if we’re going to be seeing Olver back up here soon. We don’t have the roster space right now, but I think he could be the next callup after he’s had some more games to get ready.

by stpn47 on Jan 18, 2012 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

And the next on IR when he skates his short ass through center ice with his head down again too.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Jan 18, 2012 11:35 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

and rec'd

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:40 AM MST up reply actions  

I really like the fact that they’re not sending VDG back down – rewarding the effort that he’s given so far.

by stpn47 on Jan 18, 2012 10:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Side thread: Will anyone claim Yip on waivers? Discuss.

I say not just no, not just hell no, but no fucking way.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 AM MST reply actions  

I think there are a handful of teams that might take a shot…. why wouldn’t Columbus or even Minnesota take a flier on him?

by jd21 on Jan 18, 2012 10:40 AM MST up reply actions  

You forgot that Granato still has influence on his respective team. But yeah, long shot.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:40 AM MST up reply actions  

He may actually benefit from playing with his old college coach again in Lake Erie. You never know.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM MST up reply actions  

he is only 26. maybe.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 10:42 AM MST up reply actions  

highly doubt it

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 18, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Only so they have another chip for that Rick Nash trade

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions  

You misspelled “cornerstone.”

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

You misspelled “seminal player in NHL history”

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

You misspelled “damaged goods/flat out overrated”

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

All of you misspelled “boobs”

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

You think boobs when you see Rick Nash?…

WE GOT A CODE BLUE, I REPEAT, A CODE BLUE!

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I doubt thinking about Rick Nash and boobs are in any way related. That said, just about anything makes me think of boobs.

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 12:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Your mom?

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 12:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Breast fed. What can I say?

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 12:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks?

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m probably in the minority but I think there’s a chance that a team would take a chance on him… despite his overall shittiness last year he still had 11 goals, and I think an absolutely desperate team (like the ones jd21 mentioned) could take a chance.

by stpn47 on Jan 18, 2012 10:50 AM MST up reply actions  

It would be a “what do we have to lose” kind of flyer.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

well, they can lose their place in the waiver line in case anyone with talent shows up on the wire.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, but I wouldn’t call the Islanders a “team”…

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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 12:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Marginal hockey player employment program.

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 12:36 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Okay, that made me chuckle.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 12:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I defy you to find anyone on this site who would put Thomas Bucks to the contrary.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Jan 18, 2012 11:21 AM MST up reply actions  

No fucking way.

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

It wouldn't surprise me

if a team with essentially nothing to play for jumps in and gives him a shot. If I’m Scott Howson I probably put in a claim on him and just see what he has. There’s no real downside for them.

Except, you know, Yip is bad at hockey.

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

They might lose their lofty position on the waiver claim list. You never know when another Bryzgalov will float past.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 12:38 PM MST up reply actions  

You know, I don’t think that Yip is bad at hockey. I think that it’s more that he doesn’t really try to be good at hockey.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jan 18, 2012 12:54 PM MST up reply actions  

...Arnason?

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, not as much passion as Arnie, but yeah.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jan 18, 2012 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Wasn’t passion Traylor’s middle name?

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Doubt it, as although he is young-ish he is still a UFA after this year.

by HugoAgogo on Jan 18, 2012 2:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Seriously, no one should be allowed to wear #18.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 3:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed. The #18 should be quarantined for the continued well-being of this organisation.

by HugoAgogo on Jan 18, 2012 4:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Did anyone else see Skinner destroyed last night?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7roY1pRkQY

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM MST reply actions  

that’s a great clean hit by Orpik….. Skinner came in with his head down, saw the hit coming and pulled up a bit…. shoulder to shoulder contact…. smart play would’ve been to let Orpik get the puck first and Skinner initiate the hit instead.

by jd21 on Jan 18, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

So… either we get blown out, we barely scrape by a 1goal win, or we blow said 1goal lead and lose the game?

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 11:41 AM MST reply actions  

we blow the 1 goal lead, but get to the shootout and win, giving up a point screwing teams in the East for a change, rather than screwing ourselves

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Ah yes, the infamous non ROW win!

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh, wow

I just watched a video with lots of scantily clad hot chicks dancing with each other. These pain meds made the crazy lights even better. Please don’t steal my internet, government

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:51 PM MST reply actions  

But seriously

Can I get some suggestions up in here? I’m skipping work for the first time in like two years tonight and I don’t have the coordination to play games. What movies should I watch?

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 12:59 PM MST reply actions  

Zombieland + meds could be fun.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 1:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Such a quality movie

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 1:04 PM MST up reply actions  

PARANORMAL ACTIVITY!! On drugs? Oh yeah baby.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Event Horizon

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Big Lebowski. ;)

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 1:29 PM MST up reply actions  

>_<

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Recently, I’ve found A-Team pretty enjoyable.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 3:14 PM MST up reply actions  

I was extremely pleased with that movie.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
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by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 3:16 PM MST up reply actions  

That makes us two of the like 8 people. I wish there was a sequel coming.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

At least there is a sequel for GI Joe coming.

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

With The Rock and Bruce Willis.

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by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I liked it for what it was, but I also like GI Joe and freaking everyone seems to hate it

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by Freakoffaleash on Jan 18, 2012 5:00 PM MST up reply actions  

you can count me in on the like gi joe and a team. Nostalgia FTW.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 5:08 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn’t find the A-team horrible….hard to replace MR. T as B.A. though…..

Haven’t seen G.I. Joe……

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by Americanario on Jan 18, 2012 5:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I watched Inside Job…

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by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 1:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Is that a porn?

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by A.J. Haefele on Jan 18, 2012 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

No, you’re thinking of Inside Job XXXVII

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by Hopfenkopf on Jan 18, 2012 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

People who watch porn can’t keep roman numerals straight. That would be “Inside Job 37”

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

LXIX?

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by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

that’s a great number.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

It even looks like “licks” if you don’t read it too closely.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Fear and Loathing, obviously.

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by mfured20 on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

ooooh

good choice

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

District 9 on meds could be especially interesting

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 1:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Source Code.

On drugs. Do it.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Season 1: Arrested Development

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Just saw Black Swan this weekend and it was crazy for me sober. On meds it would be a real trip.

by Mrs @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 1:59 PM MST up reply actions  

so gooood

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 2:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Disagree.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

really? i mean, there had to be ONE scene you liked right?

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Something about chicks making out or something like that

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, but that scene was quality but over-bearing mom + psychosis has been done to death, but this time, I had to watch it through the lense of ballet and the twerp from Ocean’s Twelve.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 3:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Hot. Fuzz.

Starts a bit slow, but when it does pick up, oh lordy.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Jan 18, 2012 4:50 PM MST up reply actions  

So, since this is an JV conference game, the avs get the win in a shootout?

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 1:23 PM MST reply actions  

yep

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Theodore is starting. Let the curse begin.

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by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 1:42 PM MST reply actions  

Nah, when he was on Washington, I remember the Avs lighting him up. Plus they lit up Anderson this year…and have beaten Raycroft (I believe). I think all is well

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Jan 18, 2012 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

So we have a streak going… that Altitude will no doubt point out?

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 2:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Well there was reason why in Washington he was known as Jose Three-or-more. Sadly the days of the Caps being able to outscore other teams with more than 3 goals are pretty much gone.

by vtcapsfan99 on Jan 18, 2012 3:27 PM MST up reply actions  

we was Jose three-or-four here lol

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 3:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Just saw a nice quote by Varly on Theo. I don’t know the source but I’m guessing it isn’t Chambers.

“He was my best friend in Washington. It was tough…when he played well all season and in second game coach puts the young guy out on ice. He was very professional and helped me in the playoffs.”

by vtcapsfan99 on Jan 18, 2012 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Amazing what the google machine will do for you. That came from an article in the Sun Sentinel. So I guess Varly will talk to opposing team’s beat reporters at least.

Sacco on Flash:

"He’s a great kid,’’ said Avs coach Joe Sacco. "He had some good production when he was with us. Unfortunately, he got sidetracked when he was bit by the injury there. Obviously, went in a different direction in the offseason, but I’m glad to see he’s doing very well. I’m happy for him.’’

Theo on returning to Colorado:

"I had some good memories there,’’ said Theodore, who was 42-39 with Colorado.

by vtcapsfan99 on Jan 18, 2012 4:09 PM MST up reply actions  

BTW

These are the lines I expect to see tonight based on practice yesterday:

Mueller, Stastny, Galiardi
Landeskog, O’Reilly, Hejduk
Winnik, McClement, Jones
van der Gulik, McLeod, Kobasew

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 1:47 PM MST reply actions  

tasty

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 1:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I like that.

Thanks, Joe... Thanks, Peter.... Thanks, Adam....

by mfured20 on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Talent deprived.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

But the best I can hope for until we sign someone worth having up there.

Thanks, Joe... Thanks, Peter.... Thanks, Adam....

by mfured20 on Jan 18, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Game three for Mueller. If he’s still got his legs and keeps skating my hope meter just rose a tad. Bring back Duchene in to the fold and the Avs just got a whole lot more scoring talent. Still not enough goal scoring depth when Galiardi is getting your top winger minutes instead of Jones who was suppsed to be that guy. Paper thin when Duchene and Mueller get injured and when Stastny/Hejduk aren’t scoring. If it wasn’t for O’Reilly and Landeskog the Avs would be in a world of hurt.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Gali has earned every second. He’s creating as well as Jones at his best

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Sure he’s earned it. But that’s relative to his competition on this team’s thin lineup at wing.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

i think that line will produce in a big way if things click well

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 2:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes. At this very moment, I am fondly recalling all 12 of his points this season. I think my favorite was probably his 10th point, where he did that thing and the Avs scored.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 2:22 PM MST up reply actions  

My favorite was his shortie against Detroit. That cemented his place as a good player this season imo. Of course, I hate Detroit and love anybody who does anything good against them.

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by TheRed on Jan 18, 2012 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

that was sick

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 2:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry, this will be game 4 for Mueller, not 3.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I really don’t like Duke on that line anymore…

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

What the heck has happen with stastny and Jones this year?

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 2:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I think it’s contagious. The list of forwards who have performed up to expectations is pretty short, and I would say the list of forwards who have outperformed expectations is one name.

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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 2:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I blinked and missed it, when did the opinion on Quincey go from return to form to sucking again. I’m not sure he’s playing any differently at all…

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 1:48 PM MST reply actions  

he’s made a few bad turnovers his last 2/3 games

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 1:49 PM MST up reply actions  

New whipping boy needed. The dart landed on his name.

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

What about Kevin Porter?

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

The Avs just got creamed 6-1. We need more darts.

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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I think having Yip in the lineup is worth it just for this role.

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by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t know what advanced stats say about him but he’s been coughing up the puck. Not been a factor on even strength scoring (possession) and he’s been taking his usual penalties. He’s not the reason the Avs are losing because it seems like he’s paired with Elliott more often than not lately and he’s getting protected. With protected minutes he’s not exactly a showing signs of improving in to that top four guy you would hope. Again, without looking at the advanced stats on him that’s just what I’m seeing. I think Wilson and O’Brien have surpassed him in a short period of time defensively. That being said, Quincey still has a nice shot at the point. I mean, he’s looking like Jack Johnson in some ways. But without as much offensive talent as Jack. Not trending well to my eyes.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 18, 2012 2:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I haven’t looked at his recent stats at all (or anyone’s really) so I don’t know.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 2:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Quincey

his last 10 games has actually been pretty good.

The rest of the team, however, have trended downwards. Basically, on offense, O’Reilly’s line has been great, Stastny’s barely holding his own (no surprise there, trading out Duchene for Galiardi will do that). Of course, I don’t know the Ozone% for these lines or players over that 10 game set, and it’s a small sample size, but The Avs are hurting, especially at forward (duh)

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 6:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Draws too many penalties, turns the puck over, doesn’t use his physical tools consistently, slowed down offensively (10 points in his first 15 games, 10 points in his next 26).

And…here’s a new one that I think I noticed last game…he puts his defensive partner in bad spots in his own zone and doesn’t move enough without the puck.

Could be the whipping boy thing, too.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 2:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Holy shit, talking about SOPA and PIPA

Just went to wikipedia to look up something and it jumped to a screen saying they are blacking out wikipedia for 24 hours due to the legislation in congress they may dramatically affect it. It said something about submitting a zip code, but I tend to avoid hitting submit on any website well at work when I don’t know exactly what it is going to do

Avalanche Hockey: egressing to the mean

by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 2:53 PM MST reply actions  

the zip code is so your signature on the petition goes to the correct government representatives

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 18, 2012 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

You been in a cave all day? :-) Its all over the news. Also you can go around it by doing a google search and clicking on the grey arrow instead of the direct link.

by Mrs @ MHH on Jan 18, 2012 3:34 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s in Iowa, give him a break. Things are a little slower paced there.

by DiD on Jan 18, 2012 3:40 PM MST up reply actions  

btw cush,

we won the war. You can leave off with that God Save the King shit now.

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by Hopfenkopf on Jan 18, 2012 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

First, the only time I use Wikipedia is when I need to look up one of those big ass words Jibble likes to throw out.

Second, yes in Iowa the internet is a little slower, it is the damn cold and snowy weather that finally showed up this week I think. The horses don’t turn the wheel as fast when they get cold..

Third, Hopf I know we won the war, we heard Bush proclaim it on the radio last summer.

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by cush52 on Jan 18, 2012 3:50 PM MST up reply actions  

It went up at 10PM last night mountain time.

I thought December 21, 2012 had come early.

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by andidee15 on Jan 18, 2012 4:40 PM MST up reply actions  

The Blues gave Elliott a 2-year extension, worth about 2M per year.

Still can’t believe he’s playing so well for them.

by stpn47 on Jan 18, 2012 3:51 PM MST reply actions  

I can’t believe he didn’t wait longer. A vezina is very good leverage

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 4:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Ed Jovanowski

if that’s spelled correctly, is out. Getting hand surgery.

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 4:02 PM MST reply actions  

Good. He won’t be able to punch Deadmarsh again.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 4:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Would that have been before or after Quincey put him into the bench?

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Jan 18, 2012 5:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Gotta get that.

Gotta get that.

Gotta get that BOOM BOOM POW

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 4:08 PM MST reply actions  

So when the Cats win tonight…

I might be fully ready to finally forget about 96 :]

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 18, 2012 4:42 PM MST reply actions  

Stacked Team

Against our team who probably shouldnt have even been there.

Honestly I had loved hockey since I was very young but was mainly a Pens fan up until that season when I started watching the Cats.. Had always been bitter about the loss even though I know realistically we never had a chance anyway.

The following year my family wanted to take a trip to Colorado and I refused to go because of it lol. But over the years honestly I can say I’ve liked some of the guys you have, Duchene is a beast

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 18, 2012 4:46 PM MST up reply actions  

It wasn’t a stacked team. It was a good team that made efficient use of their strengths, and used their assets to minimize their weaknesses. The Wings- Avs series was brutal on the team.

I grew up watching hockey. I was a Nords fan. And, boy, that was tough sometimes. Duchene can be great, after spending time interview Landeskog though, there is a little spot in my heart for him.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 5:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah I was kinda mad when the Avs took him instead of Larsson (I truely believe he was the best pick for your team) because I really wanted Landy.. but I’m def happy now with Huberdeau, that kid is going to tear it up in the NHL next year..

And I’m sorry but having solid depth in forwards including Sakic and Forsberg.. Solid defense and Roy in net.. def was stacked and built to win the cup

by Rob PKane McMahon on Jan 18, 2012 5:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Shift A'd all the lawyer jibber jabber.

The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.

by Randy Time on Jan 18, 2012 5:56 PM MST reply actions  

you missed movie talk, pokemon talk, and porn talk

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 5:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Not enough Lord Howard talk though…

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 6:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Or Datsyuk.

The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.

by Randy Time on Jan 18, 2012 6:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Okay folks, it’s that time again… changing my music on my phone. I’m bored of the same ol’ same ol’. Make any recommendations? I like most stuff…

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 6:13 PM MST reply actions  

Incubussssssssssssss

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 6:14 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I already have a bunch on Incubus. Pardon Me is one of my faves.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 6:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Umbrella is my fav by them, so good

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 6:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 6:17 PM MST up reply actions  

what episode is this from? its magnificent

by Skijumper on Jan 18, 2012 6:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Favorite Albums of the last year

(not released last year, but that I listened too)

Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
The Decemberists: The King is Dead
Florence + The Machine: Lungs
Mumford & Son: Sigh no More
Portugal the Man: The Satanic Satanist
Rodrigo y Gabriella: 11:11
Them Crooked Vultures: (self titled)
Yeah Yeah Yeahs: It’s Blitz

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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 6:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Also: Pearl Jam’s greatest hits

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 6:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Awesome, have a few of these, will look into the others! :D

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 6:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I haven’t bought it yet, but I really like Gotye’s “Someone I used to know”

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 6:38 PM MST up reply actions  

IMO, that track is pretty much the best on the album – but the rest of the Making Mirrors is still good.

by HugoAgogo on Jan 18, 2012 7:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Mogwai.....

Pretty much every album they’ve ever done.

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by Randy Time on Jan 18, 2012 6:29 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I <3 you

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by MalachiConstant on Jan 19, 2012 7:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Jease

The Sabres D may be playing worse than ours

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 6:21 PM MST reply actions  

I really want the Sabres to turn it around.

I like them a lot. I dunno what on earth happened to Ryan Miller, but damn has he fallen.

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by Randy Time on Jan 18, 2012 6:23 PM MST up reply actions  

The defense isn’t helping him very much at all. After this first period, they are letting the hawks skate all over them, it’s pathetic. Playing like a bunch of Stastnys out there

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 18, 2012 6:24 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s a team that should give up a second rounder for O’Brien.

4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Jan 18, 2012 6:28 PM MST up reply actions  

You spelled O’Byrne wrong. I’d rather keep O’Brien.

The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.

by Randy Time on Jan 18, 2012 6:29 PM MST up reply actions  

But if you strike him down he will become more powerful than you can imagine……

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Jan 18, 2012 6:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I have a feeling that Miller’s head isn’t right yet.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Jan 18, 2012 6:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I used to like him… then I realized how much of a emo that guy is…

Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.

by amit916 on Jan 18, 2012 6:36 PM MST up reply actions  

hey, thats an american hero youre talking about

by Skijumper on Jan 18, 2012 7:02 PM MST up reply actions  

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