Daily Cupcakes - January 18th, 2012
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 4:00 AM MST
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Some small, seriously itty-bitty small, news on Colorado Avalanche's prospect: Joey Hishon.
Joey Hishon is never going to play hockey for the London Knights.
Mark Hunter had a pretty good idea that would be the case when he added the injured Colorado Avalanche first rounder and Stratford native as the third over-ager on his team's protected list last week, irking the Owen Sound Attack faithful again in the process.
No one is really sure when Hishon will play again. His agent, Paul Capizzano, said there is no timetable for his return, that he is in Cleveland doing workouts and seeing the doctors with the Avs' Lake Erie affiliate in the American Hockey League.
"We knew it was a long shot with Hishon, but I felt like it was the right move," Hunter said.
But his return won't be with the Knights.First up, a link from DDC for the Denver folks.
Just so you know, Nate and I are hosting a Stiffs Night Out party at my Jake's restaurant and bar THIS Saturday night at 5:30pm to watch the Nuggets take on Carmelo and the Knicks. It would be great if our fellow bloggers could join us
I knew that rookies liked taking part in the All Star festivities, but I never realized how much of a bonus it truly is for these guys.
Mark Spector, who hosts a radio show in Edmonton and writes for Sportsnet, asked last week if Jordan Eberle and/or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins would be upset about not being named to the All-Star team because of injury. The reason? Bonuses. After all, how many guys get named, then removed if they are hurt? Under the CBA, rookies are eligible for two types of All-Star bonuses: one for being named to the team, another for being selected MVP. Each could be worth $212,500. Don't know if there will be grievances, but the situation's been discussed. And, their time away from the game decreases their chance of reaching some other bonuses.
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It’s crazy. If you get rid of the loser point, LA drops 9 points, Minny drops 7, Phoenix 7, and Calgary 6. The Avs only drop 2 and would be sitting prettier. Conversely, if you get rid of the shootout the Avs drop 7 points.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
That is why I hate the loser point. It seems to hurt the Avs 4 out of every 4 years. I think it is worthless that you get a half of a win just because you tied for 60 minutes. A loss is a loss.
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I think the shoot out points generally help them, though. They’re fairly good at those, I hear.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
I don’t have any problem with shootout points or shootouts in general, I like them. At least then you have to do something to earn the extra point.
I do hate points for OTLs because it feels like an award for participation. The fact that rewards for losing can make a difference in a team getting into the playoffs is utter stupidity.
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Good point.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
But losing in the SO is not the same as losing in Regulation….
10 minute OTs with Tie’s clean all this up rather nicely, FWIW
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
But losing in the SO is not the same as losing in Regulation
Losing is losing, it doesn’t matter if you lose in teh conference finals or the stanley cup finals, you still don’t win the cup
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Losing while actually playing hockey is different than losing from playing hockey-like substance.
Case in point: Wolski was a below average hockey player and a great shoot out.
Usain Bolt is a great runner, but not a good WR.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
Then play every game into sudden death overtime even in the regular season or go back to 1 point for a tie. I just don’t like the idea of rewarding losing. I think Hockey is the only sport that is team vs team or individual vs individual that does that. The only reasons shoot outs are used is so regular season games don’t go for 6 hours.
Avalanche Hockey: egressing to the mean
I don’t know if it’s fair to just get rid of the loser point and look at the resulting standings. Teams clearly use the loser point in their strategy. If it didn’t exist, they would probably try harder to win in regulation versus just trying to make it to OT.
by vtcapsfan99 on Jan 18, 2012 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
Avs players have actually said they try to get to the shoot out if the game goes to OT.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
Per Denver Post/Dater
Giguere said he will be “there anytime Varly needs to talk” but that he needs coaching too. The Avs have a goalie coach, Kirk McLean, but he is not full time. Not many teams have full-time goalie coaches, which is something Giguere doesn’t quite understand.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_19763370
Dater has been reading our blog it seems.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
why not? we read his
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 18, 2012 7:24 AM MST up reply actions
It’s a nice article. Props to Dater. Few more like that and you guys should consider offering him a staff writer position.
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by MalachiConstant on Jan 18, 2012 7:34 AM MST up reply actions
He lacks feminine body parts.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
by c6hor8 on Jan 18, 2012 7:44 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
true
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 18, 2012 7:45 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
MHH: They dont have to be large, but man boobs are required.
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Did someone page me?
I am boobs.
by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
AD does have an account here and posts once every blue moon…..
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by Americanario on Jan 18, 2012 7:56 AM MST up reply actions
about as often as I do an article
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 18, 2012 8:00 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Color me confused.
If Dater is to be believed, a full time goaltending coach is an unusual “nice to have” in the NHL. If Justin and the Goalie Guild are to be believed, the Avs are the only NHL franchise without at least one full time goaltending coach.
If only past experience had given me a basis for trusting the word of one of these individuals based on his record of thorough and thoughtful research.
If only.
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It wasn’t Dater who said that. It was Giguere.
“I think every team should have a full-time goalie coach. At the end of the day, a goalie can make you make the playoffs or not make the playoffs or win you a series or not,” Giguere said. "I still don’t understand why we don’t have a (full-time) goalie coach. A lot of organizations are like this, and it’s a bizarre situation if you ask me.
http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_19763370
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
I’d be surprised if there isn’t a mis-quote or something here. I have a hard time believing that Jiggy asserted that full time goalie coaches were unusual in the league. I could be wrong, but…
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I am rather confused by this myself, although we came to find out this week that the Caps aren’t exactly having a goalie coach around all the time either. I think the last couple seasons Irbe was always around, with infrequent trips to Hershey to see Holtby. Prior was involved in scouting and also worked with Holtby in Hershey, not sure how much he did with the Caps goalies for the two years Irbe was here. Then Irbe left this season and they brought in Kolzig to work with ECHL/AHL goalies and also fill in with Caps while Prior was on the road scouting. Well recently it comes out that Prior was off scouting for quite awhile (a few weeks?) and no one was with the Caps. Vokoun has been playing well recently so maybe he was fine but Neuvy has been pretty bad this season and he was quoted saying it was hard for him with no goalie coach around. Don’t know why they didn’t bring up Kolzig to help him, since it seems Neuvy would be a higher priority. I also am not sure if Kolzig is full time either but he does spend a lot of time with AHL/ECHL goalies. So even an organization with 2 goalie coaches might result in not having one around full time. Maybe not such an issue for Giggy or Vokoun but Varly and Neuvy clearly need more assistance. They were both used to full time Irbe as well.
by vtcapsfan99 on Jan 18, 2012 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
SBNation statement on SOPA
http://www.sbnation.com/2012/1/18/2715811/sopa-legislation-sb-nation-vox-media-statement
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 18, 2012 8:09 AM MST reply actions
I thought SOPA was dead. The GOP leadership in the House said they won’t bring it up for a vote and the White House said it would be vetoed if they did. PIPA in the Senate remains a worry. It’s the Senate’s version of SOPA, and it remains open for consideration.
OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd
by Busted Twigg on Jan 18, 2012 8:13 AM MST up reply actions
It’s the strangest freaking bill too. It has bipartisan support and non-support by what appears to be the oddest groupings. Pelosi and Issa don’t support it, but Lamar Smith and Conyers do. Ron Paul and Obama are on the same side against it, while the AFL-CIO and The Chamber of Commerce agree that it’s good. Weird.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
It’s actually refreshing to see politicians/groups using their own judgement instead of defaulting to a party position for once
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 18, 2012 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
Holy Shit
Just went to wikipedia to look up something and it jumped to a screen saying they are blacking out wikipedia for 24 hours due to the legislation in congress they may dramatically affect it. It said something about submitting a zip code, but I tend to avoid hitting submit on any website well at work when I don’t know exactly what it is going to do
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Yuppers, I put the notice on my fb yesterday. Hahaha.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 18, 2012 3:36 PM MST up reply actions
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