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DiD and BiB's first annual midseason player grade extravaganza!

The Avs are exactly at the half way point of the season. So what better time to award midseason grades? This was Dan's idea. And I think his idea was that I would contribute to it. Silly Dan. We started with roughly the following email exchange: (more, probably very poorly formatted and somewhat confusing crap, after the jump)

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Dan: Want to do a back and forth email chain for Avs mid-season grades? Maybe we can write it, clean it up, then put it up on a Fanshot or something. BiB and DiD's Mid-Season Grades. What do you think?

Bob: Sure Dan, sounds like fun. Based on expectations or in comparison with all players? That’s the first big decision. I think it is more worthwhile to base them on expectations. So a C for a VDG, for example, doesn’t mean he is a better player than a D Stastny.

Dan: I agree, we should do it on expectations. Otherwise, we can go right down the points list and give Stastny and Duchene A's, Jones a B...wait, what? But no, seriously, let's do it on expectations.

Dan (from an email that I did not originally receive): How’s it looking on your end? Any luck? I wrote my stuff and grouped it by letter grade, but do you think we should alphabetize it by player name in case we disagree about the grade? We could also throw in some pithy banter if/where we disagree (or agree). Let me know how it’s coming for you.

Bob, after finally receiving the message resent by Dan: I’ll reorganize by general position then alphabetize below and see how it goes. (A few minutes later) Screw that. I’ll make snarky comments on what you put together and throw in my two cents here and there. And see how that goes.

Now on to the grades, ordered by Dan's grades, because I'm lazy and this editing interface really, really sucks. Dan comments first. Mine follow on each player.

A+
Ryan O'Reilly
. Happy to say that I didn't have the vision to ever identify Factor as the stud he has become. The team's MVP, hands down.

BiB: I agree. I really didn’t see it coming. I thought we had a potentially great 3rd line center on our hands; suddenly he’s our best player, on both ends.


A
JS Giguere
. Huge surprise, both on and off the ice.
BiB: Agree again. Great FA signing. Imagine not having to give up a 1st and 2nd round pick for an established veteran number one goaltender?


A-
Jay McClement. Doesn’t score much, but does everything else well. Even when the PK had a rough start, he was excellent on it. He’s got good size and he’s aggressive, one of the few Avs who separates his man from the puck.
BiB: I think your square peg love is showing here. I’d give J-Mac a solid B, but his offensive limitations show themselves quite often, imo. He is what he is, a decent checking forward and good penalty killer. And he’s been good. But not great. And I know we’re basing this on expectations, but he’s not exceeding mine enough to get an A.

Ryan Wilson. I wonder how good this season actually has been for Wilson. He picked up a lot of points early, but scored only one goal. He was sheltered on the 5/6 D pairing and didn't kill penalties. But...he had some memorable hits (hi, Taylor Hall), and he will be known in a little corner of my mind as the guy who pummeled Zach Smith when he dared to fuck with Gabriel Landeskog.
BiB: I’m with you on this one. The best open ice hitter on the team. He was our best overall defensemen for a while there. And I’m surprised how much he stepped it up on the offensive end.


B
Winnik
. Polarizing guy, but I think he’s easily putting up his best season with the Avs. Very good on the PK, not out of place on any line. He plays where he’s asked and chips in here and there.

BiB: I’d bump him up to an A-, based on his performance against expectations. His offensive contributions have exceeded them, and he has been the glue that has held a few lines together. We know he’s not a top line winger on a great team, but he has filled in admirably on ours this season.

O'Byrne. Didn’t expect to grade him so high, and some people I respect a lot don’t think he’s playing very well, but he’s cut down on the penalties taken, and he’s part of the top PK unit, along with McClement, Winnik, and Hejda. Give that group a lot of credit. Even though the numbers are still below the league average, the progress has been impressive. The Avs gave up 14 power play goals in the first 15 games of the season. Since then, they’ve given up 14 goals in 26 games.

BiB: I think he has been noticeably meh on both ends lately, other than on the PK. He’s a nice 3rd pairing Dman, little more. I’d probably give him a C+. Maybe my Wilson love is showing?

Hejda. Has settled in really well after a difficult start. His offense is a pleasant surprise, but it’s his D that’s stood out. Part of a very good PK unit, and he’s the shutdown guy that we were supposed to have for the past 5 years.

BiB: Agree. I think he’s been solid too. And we didn’t think we were getting Chris Pronger or what fricken EJ should someday be for 3.25M per year, so he’s been fine based on expectations.

Quincey. Very good bounceback season. Still has some problems with taking penalties and not playing great defense (poor numbers on the PK), but he’s a competitor, as shown by his comments when he was scratched. Would love to see him be more physical.
BiB: I thought he started off great, then tailed off a bit. But he’s been good again since being back from his injury. Based on expectations established a few years ago when he was fantastic out of the gate, I’d say a B is fair. Based on my expectations for him, he’d have an A+, but my expectations were crap.

Landeskog. He’s got the brain and the game of a seasoned veteran trapped inside a 19-year-old’s body. Isn’t refined, doesn’t have finesse, but he is solid and smart and charismatic and can be the face of the franchise for years to come. Becoming more and more comfortable on the PK, which is an added bonus.

BiB: I’d bump Landy up to an A because I really didn’t expect him to be as good and polished as he has been. Like O’Reilly, mature beyond his years. If we could harness O’Reilly and Landy’s maturity and put it into a few other guys that I’m sure will be coming up here sometime …..


O'Brien. Better puck mover than expected, has done his job in sticking up for teammates. Loves the camera and the camera loves him. Excellent value signing.
BiB: Agree. I really like SOB too. Brings a team toughness that was lacking.

Elliott. The offense is intriguing, the defense sometimes frightening.
BiB: B sounds fair. Expected him to be pretty raw defensively. Does add a dimension on the blue line we didn't have after the big remake.



B-

Hejduk. Was debating between a B-/C+. Went higher because he is 2nd on the team in scoring despite having a down year by his standards, and because he’s the captain. Honestly don’t think it has that big of an effect on the team, and I’m still worried about his near career-low in PPG.
BiB: I'd give Hejduk a B+. I keep expecting him to decline, but he's still one of the few snipers we have, and his overall game is still solid.

The Teej. Not scoring much, but he’s providing energy. He’s a pain in the ass to play against. He sniffs out the puck and the guy who has it like a lean, hungry greyhound. Getting better on the PK. Wondering why it took him this long to play this way and this hard.
BiB: Fair grade. I'm happy to see him back to where he was. He has been a key to our recent resurgence.


C+
Kobasew
. I gave him the plus for being decent on the PK and for hitting a guy every now and then.
BiB: I think you're caving in to Kobario's Kobahate. He's been pretty decent for what he is, and on some nights has been one of our best forwards. If square peg gets an A-, Kobasew gets at least a B-.


C
Duchene
. Has stopped growing as a player, with the exception of improving his faceoff skills. Not good defensively, doesn’t kill penalties, and doesn’t score enough. Expected much more from him.

BiB: I want to disagree, but I can't. For this franchise to take it to the next level, Duchene has to take it to the next level as well. He's had exactly one game this season where he showed how dominant he could be someday, in Dallas. Other than that, he's been wildly inconsistent and often times frustrating.

Johnson. Still not the game-breaker many people would expect from the former #1 overall, but he’s been OK. Expected more.
BiB: Agree. And at times he's been noticeably bad. Shows signs of coming around here and there, but he needs to be better.

McLeod. He’s what I expected him to be.

BiB: I'd probably give him a C-. He hasn't been worth much of anything for a long time now.


C-

Varlamov. Too inconsistent, and his numbers need to improve. Expected more.
BiB: Nevermind that comment on Giggy. Oops. Agree with the grade. But he is young, has shown flashes of brilliance, and I still have hope that he'll become our goaltender of the future.

Jones. Agree with those who say the injury has affected him, although he still managed to score 27 goals last year. Expected more.
BiB: Jonesy gets a D from me. He has only had a handful of games where he looked like even a competent 2nd or 3rd line winger. Other than that, he's been brutal. And we know damn well the team was counting on him to be more.



D
Paul Stastny
. The single-biggest disappointment of the season. The only thing keeping him from plunging to D-minus territory is his ability to win faceoffs and play good defense. Ten assists and 12 even strength points at this point of the season is absolutely fucking embarrassing. Expected much more.

BiB: Based on expectations, I have to agree. He's supposed to be our top line center. We've even moved our supposed 2nd line center to his wing. And he still didn't produce like he needs to. Imo, Stats and Dutchy need to save the bang bang dance for when they actually are leading this team to playoff series victories. Not saying it still can't happen, but this has been a rough stretch for both of them.


INC
Mueller
Van Der Gulik
Yip
Porter
Hunwick
Lindstrom
Malone
Brophey

Of the incompletes, Lindstrom has been the worst, then Yip. Van Der Gulik and Hunwick have probably been the best.

BiB: Lindstrom may be the most worthless waste of a roster spot I've ever seen wearing the A with pride. And the fact that our execs went bottom dollar banking on him to fill a glaring need saddles them with a solid D, imo.

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awful low expectations?

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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 6, 2012 1:46 AM MST up reply actions  

It’s mostly just the guys that started the year expecting to play on the bottom-half lines and the back up goalie that got anything above an “average” grade from our dear Statler and Waldorf. 10th place is probably average for what MHH was expecting for the Avs this year. Makes sense to me.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Jan 6, 2012 7:31 AM MST up reply actions  

BiBler and DiDorf

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Jan 6, 2012 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Dorf?

Thanks, Joe... Thanks, Peter.... Thanks, Adam....

by mfured20 on Jan 6, 2012 1:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I think it’s what happens when some of your best players … aren’t.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 9:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Perhaps I’m missing it, but a number of guys don’t have grades listed…

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 6, 2012 9:36 AM MST reply actions  

Are they listed in the INCs? Who did we miss? Not saying it isn’t possible. The whole process, including trying to crank it into the SB Nation editing interface from hell, was quite a kludge.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 9:42 AM MST up reply actions  

I don’t mean you’ve missed players. I mean that you haven’t listed grades. Most of the players have a grade in the line above their names. None of these players have grades listed for them (except by you in some of the comments):

Wilson, O’Byrne, Hejda, Quincey, Landeskog, O’Brien, Elliott, Galiardi, Johnson, McLeod and Jones

Again, maybe I’m missing something. I do have a migraine today and am not seeing very well.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
Mile High Hockey
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 6, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Took me a second to see it, but they’re in categories. For example, both Wilson and Jay got an A-.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Jan 6, 2012 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Yep. I tried to format the whole thing so that was more clear, but eventually gave up. There are places above where it didn’t matter how many line breaks I’d put in the editing window, when I’d publish the thing, it took them all away. Similarly, there are other places where I just absolutely could not close the line gaps. Very frustrating interface. As far from WYSIWYG as I’ve ever seen.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 10:01 AM MST up reply actions  

Would you like me to format it for you?

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 6, 2012 10:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Sure, that would be awesome Beachie! I’m sure a big part of the problem is that I copied and pasted a bunch of stuff from an email. Do you have access to editing tools that I do not? Or are you just used to this thing?

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

I know enough HTML to fix some stuffs. Just an FYI for anyone copying and pasting into a Fan Post, it’s best if you paste into Notepad or Paste Special with Unformatted Text into a word processing program first. Then copy and paste into SBN. Helps with formatting.

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 6, 2012 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Better?

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 6, 2012 10:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Much.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 10:56 AM MST up reply actions  

You’re the man, Cheryl!

by DiD on Jan 6, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I don’t normally swing that way, but Cheryl is pretty feminine and cute for a man.

Avalanche Hockey: egressing to the mean

by cush52 on Jan 6, 2012 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Good god did I ever see that coming. And deserve it.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

You said “kludge”. That pretty much screams 1985.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Jan 6, 2012 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Got it from one of our programmers. Needless to say, one of our older programmers.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Last time I heard that I was reading “The Hunt for Red October” and Jonesy says, “Kludge. Mega kludge to the max.” Wow. People actually talked like that.

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

I don't understand the purpose of the line, "I don't need to drink
to have fun." Great, no one does. But why start a fire with flint and
sticks when they've invented the lighter?

by TheRed on Jan 6, 2012 1:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Ah. Thanks!

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
Mile High Hockey
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 6, 2012 10:21 AM MST up reply actions  

I feel like this entire post is trolling me.

Which I approve of.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 6, 2012 10:29 AM MST reply actions  

What did O’Brien get? I give him an A++

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jan 6, 2012 10:30 AM MST reply actions  

B

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 6, 2012 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

This is what happens when people read the Internet.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 6, 2012 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, he’s in the huge, very spaced out group of B’s.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

I am seriously considering a #5 Bluberry. And he would be joining Forsberg Sakic and Hejduk. I am a hard sell.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jan 6, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

He may be our new Foote. Which would be awesome. Not saying he’s as good as Footer was, but sure brings a lot of the same nasty attitude to the table.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

He would have to get a contract before I go out and buy it. Like a 3yr one.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jan 6, 2012 10:38 AM MST up reply actions  

I’ve got no problem saying you’re like the Shane O’Brien of MHH.

by DiD on Jan 6, 2012 10:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Varly

The high expectation I had for Varly was mainly based on what the Avs had to give up for him. That may have been an unfair expectation. I think the Avs saw more potential for the future in him than his immediate contribution. Yes, we all wished he would be the immediate saviour but he may be performing where he should be considering he has no full time goalie coach. Has anyone else noticed that he has no goalie coach???

"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."

by KKtheHippie on Jan 6, 2012 10:45 AM MST reply actions  

Yeah,

There are a lot of posts here on the goalie coach situation.

I’d be excited about Varley. Justin at the goalie guild thinks he’s can develop in to a player like Quick once he’s coached correctly and balances out his athleticism with positioning and less squirrel on crack movement.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Jan 6, 2012 10:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Squirrel on crack. I like that. I swear, he really reminds me of Denis Lemieux from Slap Shot when he’s out of his groove. That’s when we know we’re hosed.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 10:54 AM MST up reply actions  

(yes, I know I hate .gifs, but this is perfect)

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 6, 2012 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic with my question…never take me seriously unless I talk about BiB….

"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."

by KKtheHippie on Jan 6, 2012 11:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Stastny still gets 15 mil. Thats good for a 40pt guy.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Jan 6, 2012 10:46 AM MST reply actions  

Wow. That looks a lot better. Thanks Beachie! I don’t care what Red Wing Dave says, you’re AOK in my book.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 10:51 AM MST reply actions  

Thanks. =)

Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
Mile High Hockey
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 6, 2012 10:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Was debating between a B-/C+.

I feel like this was a very subtle trolling of AJ, so well-played on that.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Jan 6, 2012 12:15 PM MST reply actions  

At first I thought AJ and Beachie were trolling Bob by “complaining” about the grades.

Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. - Kv

by MalachiConstant on Jan 6, 2012 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

I wish I was smart enough to do it, but I wasn’t trolling AJ with the B-/C+ comment. Being old and trying to be nicer results in too many self-edits in my brain, so there was no trolling.

I applaud A.J.’s comment. It shows a very good memory, because that is indeed a comment they received when they handed out grades at the end of last year.

by DiD on Jan 6, 2012 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I just proved last night

with my Iginla/McCormick deal that I can hold a grudge. Maturity is strong with this one

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

Mile High Hockey : Where B- is different than C+

by A.J. Haefele on Jan 6, 2012 12:57 PM MST up reply actions  

congrats Bob. You finally got grades based on expectations on the front page of MHH

DDC is deeply embedded throughout this blog. For better or worse, his taint taints us all.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 6, 2012 12:17 PM MST reply actions  

wait, A- for Jay McClement? ugh.

DDC is deeply embedded throughout this blog. For better or worse, his taint taints us all.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 6, 2012 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I disagreed with Dan on that one. Based on expectations, which aren’t too high, I’d still only give him a B. He’s been decent at his role. I was calling him McClement McClement hands of McCement the other night at a game with one of my friends.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I was calling him McClement McClement hands of McCement the other night at a game with one of my friends.

I can’t believe you were so proud of that that you decided to make it public. Were you with Woody Paige?

He’s been great on the penalty kill, and I think you underestimate how important the PK is to a team that is shorthanded alot. He takes tough faceoffs, he starts in his zone most of the time, and he’s on the ice at the end tight games where we need to protect a lead.

In case you haven’t noticed, this team is a defensive-oriented team now – his points don’t really matter that much. And even if they did, he’s only four even strength points behind Stastny. Let me repeat that: he’s only four even strength points behind Stastny.

Got no problem at all with an A-. In fact, I’m talking myself into an A while I’m writing this.

by DiD on Jan 6, 2012 1:58 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s even funnier when you mispronounce the “cement” part. Believe me … you had to be there. Ron (not Woody) was in stitches.

Your scoring stat is more of an indictment of the season Stats is having than McClement, no? Hey, a B isn’t bad. It’s good.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 2:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, and thanks for the front page RWD!

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

(my idea. just sayin)

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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 6, 2012 2:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks Beachie!

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

totally her idea

DDC is deeply embedded throughout this blog. For better or worse, his taint taints us all.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 6, 2012 2:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Literally.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Jan 10, 2012 8:28 AM MST up reply actions  

I think you guys did a good job, maybe even better then the writers did at the end of last season. Especially with less hockey brilliant people providing insight and less time to put this together.

However i do have to disagree with your grade for RoB. I would give him a C, maybe even a C-. Also I would move SoB to a B-.

Avalanche Hockey: egressing to the mean

by cush52 on Jan 6, 2012 5:20 PM MST reply actions  

I gave ROB a C+. Agree he hasn’t been that great overall.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 6:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Off subject...

Being from Toyon… does that make me TiT?

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by Tony Trujillo on Jan 6, 2012 5:21 PM MST reply actions  

Maybe TTfT

"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi

O'Reilly works harder than you

by TheRed on Jan 7, 2012 2:59 AM MST up reply actions  

My wife’s name is Amber, could I be TiA?

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by Tony Trujillo on Jan 14, 2012 12:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Funny

that majority of the guys you called out, had great games last night. EJ, Stastny, Gali and Varly.

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 7, 2012 11:04 AM MST reply actions  

maybe its just me...

and I know a few of you know that “it’s just me” because of my Landy support from last season…

but Landeskog should be an A or A-

We are talking about a power player on pace with first years of players like Nash, Iginla, Stewart, Backes, Kane, Okposo, etc (many of who came in at 20/21 years old) and out producing recent draftees like Johansen, Nieds, Connolly while having started the season on the third line. Not to mention in the top group for hits, shots, takeaways, plus/minus/etc for the Avs AND THE NHL. He’s already only one point away from Seguin’s entire first year production and not too far off what Hall produced his first year. Of the players who didn’t go 1st overall, out of the past 5 drafts, only Duchene and Skinner have produced more (the season after being drafted). He’s earned his ice time and made the most of it.

Languishing for Landeskog

by zandar on Jan 8, 2012 9:24 PM MST reply actions  

I agree. In my comments, I gave him an A. What he’s contributing given his age is amazing so far.

We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.

by Bob in Boulder on Jan 10, 2012 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

I mean Hall got significantly injured during his rookie year, so that’s an unfair judgment but I get what you’re saying

I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.

by ProfessorOak on Jan 15, 2012 5:48 PM MST up reply actions  

We really should be using an Outstanding, Satisfactory, Unsatisfactory grading scale considering the youth on the team….

Sports don't build character, they reveal it

by Cotts on Jan 12, 2012 4:29 PM MST reply actions  

Or get the “Below Grade Level” “At Grade Level” “Above Grade Level” scale from my son’s pre-K involved somehow.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Jan 16, 2012 8:33 AM MST up reply actions  

There is no grade level below pre-K.

Duh!

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.

by Hopfenkopf on Jan 16, 2012 12:19 PM MST up reply actions  

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