Avalanche at Hawks Recap; Wheels Stay on Bus, Avs Blank Hawks 4-0
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 6, 2012 9:52 PM MST
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PrintThe Avs continue to be the hottest team in hockey outside of New England, as they dumped the Chicago Black Hawks with relative ease tonight, 4-0. With the win, the Avs moved back into that coveted 8th spot in the West and are now 10-2 since not firing coach Joe Sacco.
This was a game that featured two uptempo teams, with both treating the neutral zone as if it was covered in hot coals. Early on, it was a tightly contested contest with play going back and forth with some nice hitting to boot but neither getting many good scoring changes. T.J. Galiardi got the party started at the 12:57 mark; after playing a nice game of keepaway, he pushed the puck back to Erik Johnson on the point who promptly blasted a shot at the net that was deflected nicely by David Jones (yes, a David Jones sighting).
The back-breaker came very early in the 2nd period. An Avalanche defensive gaffe left Patrick Sharp all alone in front of Semyon Varlamov, but Varly deftly poked the puck away. The play immediately went the other way with Paul Stastny and Johnson working it together on the left wing. Blackhawks goalie Corey Crawford came waaay out of his net, allowing Stastny to feed Galiardi wide open at the other side of the net. Galiardi buried it, making it 2-0 and, I feel, effectively ending it. Honestly, I thought Chicago mostly gave up after that point. Any jump they had early was completely gone and you never saw them do any pushing and shoving after whistles. It just seemed like they were done.
The Avs had some more scoring to do, though. About 7 minutes after the Galiardi goal, the Avs killed off the Hawks only PP on the night. Shane O'Brien had barely stepped out of the box when Gabriel Landeskog fired a hard shot in on Crawford with the rebound going right to the waiting stick of David van Der Gulik. 3-0 Avs. Dan Winnik would feed Chuck Kobasew in front of the net as time was running out to close out the scoring.
At this point, the only real drama was whether Varly would get the shutout and whether Galiardi would get the vaunted "Gordie Howe hat trick". Personally, I find this "stat" to be rather spurious (did I get it right, Dixomatic?). It's just a dopey frivolous stat in my book. Yeah, yeah, the guy can score AND fight. Neat. Seriously, when a 190 lb rat (meant with love) with ZERO career fights turns around and bear hugs Dave Bolland so that he can get a fighting major...well, congrats on a nice game, but I don't think that added anything to it. Sorry, just not a fan.
I am a fan of this win, though. The Avs played well...although they did have some sloppy sections and the Blackhawks had 3 separate 1 on 1 chances on Varly. Overall, though, they outplayed a good Chicago team, got scoring from their 2nd, 3rd and 4th lines and goaltending remains a strength. And it was nice to see a team other than the Avs folding up early. Geez, if this keeps up that Joe Sacco fella might get some Adams Trophy talk...
- T.J. Galiardi. Altidudes called him the Avs best player tonight. Might not go that far, but we'll give him the first etoile
- Semyon Varlamov - 5 goals in his last 4 games. Man, when he gets hot, he gets hot
- Erik Johnson - 2 points tonight to break a 7 game scoreless slump
- Landeskog, O'Reilly, Hejduk
- Galiardi, Stastny, Jones
- Winnik, McClement, Kobasew
- McLeod, Porter, van der Gulik
- Hejda, O'Byrne
- Quincey, Elliott
- O'Brien, Johnson
- All 4 goal scorers played college in New England. Jones and Galiardi played for Dartmouth, van der Gulik played for BU and Kobasew played for BC
- The Avs have 47 points, one less than the Minnesota Wild
- Johnson and O'Brien were both +3 in the game, and the Avs now have 9 players with a positive +/- on the year
The Avs are in St Louis on Saturday night. Before the game, the Altidudes announced that J.S. Giguere would get the start
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Sacco confirmed that he will still start Giggy tomorrow. He said Varly played great, but they will stick with the plan.
While Gali’s fight wasn’t much of a fight, I was happy to see him step up to Bolland after his hit on Stastny. Not an illegal or even dirty hit on Bolland’s part. But you can’t let your “stars” get sandwiched like that.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
meh. at this point, Galiardi is more of a star than Stastny
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 6, 2012 10:04 PM MST up reply actions
I must be in the minority
but I don’t think Stastny’s points accurately represent his play this season. His PDO is still absurdly low and he (well his line while he’s on the ice) is still dominating possession I keep saying this, but I gotta believe the points will come and his teammates shooting % while he’s on the ice will improve.
Which kind of makes sense to me. How in the world can he be on pace for goals, but so low on assists? The only two things that would make sense to me would be: he’s going to the front of the net more, so he gets less passes or, bad fortune. His stats are so bizarre though.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 6, 2012 10:22 PM MST up reply actions
i agree, and i thought he was particularly good tonight. especially in the 1st period
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 6, 2012 10:29 PM MST up reply actions
Regressing to the mean…
It all makes sense now.
I am boobs.
by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Jan 6, 2012 10:37 PM MST up reply actions
He’s making some good passes though… the assists will come when people start finishing.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
That’s kind of what I’m thinking too.
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 7, 2012 1:38 AM MST up reply actions
because stats are stupid?
And they don’t predict anything but long term, which is meaningless in the course of a season for most fans? They’re great for GM’s, yeah, but….we aren’t GM’s.
In short, yeah, I respect the long term benefits of your arguments, but I am baffled by your (and other advanced stats gurus) unwillingness to accept that the enjoyment of the hour at hand can trump luck and any other rationalization at hand.
And regardless of PDO or any other such nonsense, Statsny needs to put up more points, bad luck or good luck or no luck.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
O'Reilly works harder than you
but I am baffled by your (and other advanced stats gurus) unwillingness to accept that the enjoyment of the hour at hand can trump luck and any other rationalization at hand.
Statement like this continue to perplex me, as if the enjoyment of hockey is somehow pitted in a competition against luck. They aren’t in a competition. I enjoy (and am frustrated by) luck when I play blackjack, dungeons & dragons, hearts, Munchkin, soccer, or any number of hobbies. Identifying the role luck plays doesn’t diminish my enjoyment of any of those activities.
Why do you continue to make the assumption that because I enjoy using the advanced metrics that it means I somehow am unable to enjoy (or conversely be frustrated) with what’s going on in the moment? It’s more than a little insulting and condescending that you continue to pound home this point. Like I’m some kind of number crunching robot that can’t enjoy the here and now. I will put my level enjoyment over the Avs recent hot streak up against anyone elses on this board, and I’d put my frustration of Stastny’s struggles against anyone elses either, as if competing enjoyment or frustration was a worthwhile activity.
Even if I did enjoy hockey for number crunching alone, so fucking what. Who are you to tell anyone what’s the right way to enjoy hockey? Contrary to what seems to be your belief people aren’t coming up with stats to diminish others enjoyment of the game. There’s a whole community out there who enjoy analyzing real life and finding a way to represent them, many times mathematically. They’re called scientists. Hell Physics (which is what I got my degree in) is all about this. Just because I can mathematically describe what goes on in a lightning strike doesn’t mean I can’t enjoy a lightening storm as much as the next person. Go listen to or read Neil DeGrasse Tyson talk about space and tell me he somehow enjoys a meteor shower, eclipse, or looking at the stars less than someone who doesn’t know the numbers behind the events.
If you want to discuss them and talk about what “long term” means (because it’s not long term, it’s large sample size. Time is an important factor in it, but it’s not the only one) then I am more than willing to discuss it with you. I enjoy discussing those I get the impression that you’re not all that interested in it. And that’s fine.
But if we’re analyzing how well a player is playing statistics are an important part of the equation. And 5v5 ES Corsi & PDO and OZone starts and those stats offer a unique insight into that. And you want to talk about rationalization? the human brain is one giant rationalization machine. Statistics can, if used properly, help you overcome those biases & rationalizations and look at things more analytically.
But let’s please stop with the “why can’t you just enjoy the games”. Whether it’s meant to be or not, its an insult that comes perilously close to “You aren’t a real fan because you don’t enjoy hockey the right way” bullshit.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 7, 2012 9:19 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
I’m a level 6 Ranter-Analyst
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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 7, 2012 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
Bluff check.
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by Chris Damasceno on Jan 7, 2012 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
100% agree with this rant. I have my degree in Bio, and although I don’t use many statistics, I concentrated on Humansociobiology, which is the study of why humans do socially, what they do, but explained in a purely scientific way. This doesn’t mean that I can’t enjoy an altruistic gesture, or recognize that rape is still wrong (although it is scientifically advantageous), Statistics are objective, and don’t have an agenda, this is why i love them. It is humans who give them an agenda.
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.
I think advanced stats are silly, but I enjoy your posts, and others’ who are into it, because the conclusions that you draw focus my attention to interesting things during games that I normally would be oblivious to.
"He who fucks nuns will later join the church." -The Clash
"You aren’t a real fan because you don’t enjoy hockey the right way"
Was writing that entire thing worth it? lol Jibbs I am not one to back down but DaAAMn, you should of been in a good mood to after the win!? A simple FU works just as good sometimes when peoples comments are that retarded.
First off, i probably could have said something more like “stats are stupid because imo…” But I didn’t, so.
Why do you continue to make the assumption that because I enjoy using the advanced metrics that it means I somehow am unable to enjoy (or conversely be frustrated) with what’s going on in the moment?
Well, maybe its not you then, but that has definitely been the impression I’ve gotten from some stats people. The butthurt and bitterness that I have seen when a team wins because of “luck” has been there, most notably a few seasons ago.
It’s more than a little insulting and condescending that you continue to pound home this point.
I’m not trying to be insulting or condescending (I respect your opinions a lot, even if I don’t agree with some of them) but I continue to make this assumption because I continue to see you post things that insinuate you are frustrated with, for example, Statsny’s play despite what he should be doing based on things like PDO. I don’t believe that’s insulting or condescending, just as I don’t believe you are being insulting or condescending by putting forth your numbers based interpretations of events. If I was looking for condescension, I would look no further than this:
There’s a whole community out there who enjoy analyzing real life and finding a way to represent them, many times mathematically. They’re called scientists.
It seems to me that when someone plays out of his mind there is a post/comment about why its unsustainable, and when someone is sucking there is an opposite post. I seldom see any post about “wow, he’s been playing amazing, this is great to watch”. There is almost always a caveat in there. Then if someone does post that “Statsny sucks this year”, I see a stats based post that explains why he actually doesn’t suck, even though he has clearly not put up the numbers and has been invisible for large chunks of the year, which for him is pretty much the definition of sucking. Perhaps you are correct and that is just me rationalizing what I see, but that has been my perception, and I guess I’ll refrain from posting on that if you’ll refrain from telling me I can’t enjoy watching hockey that way.
As far as long term goes, and some of my other issues, is the whole small/large sample size thing. It seems for most of the categories you are analyzing, sample sizes don’t average out until a fair portion of the season has gone by, if not all of it. How then, do you explain a guy/team that doesn’t regress or advance to the mean? Or a guy has a great week for some unknown reason, and it’s written off to small sample size or unsustainable, or backed up with numbers if the case calls for it. That just screams Debbie Downer to me, but to each their own.
But let’s please stop with the "why can’t you just enjoy the games".
Pretty sure I never said that, even if that was what you interpreted. Perhaps I should have fixed a sentence above to read “your (and other advanced stats gurus) unwillingness to accept that the my enjoyment of the hour at hand can trump luck and any other rationalization at hand”. In fact, I don’t think anybody would watch the games if they didn’t enjoy them, much less start a blog or comment extensively here.
Whether it’s meant to be or not, its an insult that comes perilously close to "You aren’t a real fan because you don’t enjoy hockey the right way" bullshit.
Sorry, I can’t help it if people take non insults as insults.
Which kind of makes sense to me. How in the world can he be on pace for goals, but so low on assists? The only two things that would make sense to me would be: he’s going to the front of the net more, so he gets less passes or, bad fortune. His stats are so bizarre though.
So, back to your original question, maybe I can phrase an answer which will be neither intentionally or unintentionally insulting.
Jibbles, I feel that this is where the statistics field comes up short. There could be a number of things, such as his linemates, a slightly different system, him being in front of the net more, or he’s just not “stepping up” and being the teams best player. I respect the large sample size predictions that stats are able to provide, but imo they don’t really do much on a game to game basis. This is why I do not use them as a predictor for performance on any given game night. Cheers, and if you’d like to have a beer and watch a game sometime, I’d be glad hang out with you, because I really think you are missing what I’m trying to say.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
O'Reilly works harder than you
by TheRed on Jan 7, 2012 3:46 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
^ I like this.
FWIW, I like to enjoy every game in an “in the moment” sort of attitude, just watching hockey and rooting for the Avs. I’ve never been big into advanced stats just because I’d rather have the players/team demonstrate whether or not their play is “sustainable” or “luck” etc. I’m not saying that advanced stats are meaningless, or that Jibbs and other stats people are doing it wrong (I always find Jibbbs’ input interesting and often intriguing). I’d just rather enjoy the exciting game of hockey like a young fan would (I have a favorite team, and I want them to win). I come from a scientific and mathematical family so I understand the satisfaction and clarity that the act of supporting what you see with numbers can bring, but personally I like to use sports as a little bit of an escape from my mathematical life.
BTW, Go Avs!
THE COLORADO AVALANCHE HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP. RAYMOND BOURQUE: A DREAM COME TRUE!
Impressively done.
I enjoy the “numbers” of hockey, in that I find it interesting that they don’t always work. But I love hockey for so many other reasons.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 7, 2012 6:42 PM MST up reply actions
I’m not ignoring this, I just haven’t had time for a response over the last day or so. I’m pretty happy with it though (I rec’d it) so I’m ready to put this minor disagreement behind us. I do have a few thoughts that I’ll probably jot down when I get a spare moment though.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 9, 2012 8:45 AM MST up reply actions
I agree with you, I think people are to caught up with the dollar sign. IMO, someone had to have the money so we could be a hockey team. Either Kobasew could make 4 million a year or SOS could make 6 million.
Never thought points were the best measure of Stastny’s game. Don’t know what stat is really. When he is playing well, which he hasn’t always this season, he does a ton of statless little things that help his teammates. Puck possession is one, backchecking another, little picks he sets.
I agree with those who say Stats biggest problem is his contract. His style is not and never has been high end scorer. To put up those kinds of numbers he needs to play with a premier scoring threat that draws the attention. He isn’t going to consistently get anything against top ‘D’.
I don’t think Gali purposely went for the Gordie Howe. Do you really think he did?
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 7, 2012 1:11 AM MST up reply actions
I do believe he was looking for an opportunity, yes
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 7, 2012 6:18 AM MST up reply actions
I think he did, for sure. The guys on the bench were likely egging him on to do it, too.
No soup for you!
Possibly. But Bolland threw first (two gloves to Gali’s head), so I’m fine with it. Actually, I’d be fine with it either way. I’m just happy that he’s playing with fire lately. I can’t believe I forgot how much I enjoyed Galiardicus.
I can’t believe I forgot how much I enjoyed Galiardicus.
or as Beachie likes to call him, Terry
No soup for you!
Don't make Beachie mad
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Jan 7, 2012 8:36 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I hate you.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 7, 2012 9:52 AM MST up reply actions
That photo
pretty much sums up the entire game, doesn’t it?
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Gali looks like it’s no big deal, or no effort to drop Leddy there.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Jan 6, 2012 10:28 PM MST up reply actions
It's hilarious..
it’s like he’s thinking “Heh, guess I’ll shove Leddy down.”
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“You’re my bitch”
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He was -4 I believe, that makes him the bitch.
Peter McNabb thinks I'm outstanding.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 7, 2012 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
Yep, I was thinking “Sit cho ass down, bitch” was an appropriate caption.
The guys at Second City Hockey had a different idea thought – “Hello? Hello? Anybody home in there? Think, McFly. Think!” I’ll admit, I giggled, especially because Gali’s really not that big.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
a few points
1) We match up really well with the Blackhawks. The Blackhawks played last night and the Avs had 4 days off. These things do make a difference but hey all teams have to find ways to win those type of games also.
2) Crawford was just flat awful. That wrap around by Hejduk that was saved by Seebrook was embarrassing. He made no attempt to get get to the other side of the crease. That was some of the worse goaltending I have seen in a long time.
3) Gali has had a great few weeks. However he was the best player on the ice tonight.
4) Hossa is a bitch
5) This was the first time I felt the Avs played a complete game while being ahead since Ottawa. Great team play!
6) The way the Avs have been playing, and Sacco philosophy of winning means you play next game, the Avs might be getting a lot tougher.
7) I am a big fan of VDG. I think he has been great every game he has played in the NHL. I hope they keep him for a while.
8) Is this the Varley we were expecting to get or is he playing beyond himself.
Regarding 8), Varly is playing very well now, but this is nothing new for him. Keep in mind he had a .924 sv % last season. This level of play is why he was a first round draft pick. What would be new is if he keep up this level of play for a long time. He’s already in uncharted waters now with 28 starts, more than any other season, and it’s only January. I’m happy to see his overall sv % climbing to .903 after the shutout.
Varly’s settling into being a no. 1 goalie, with help from Jiggy, acclimating himself to being a starting goalie for the Avalanche. Having already played more than he ever has in one season is a reminder how tough it must be for a guy who gets traded to team that wants him to be the best goalie since Patrick Roy. The expectation is enormous. I think we can see Varly going through the process of inevitable ups and downs, and I’m glad he’s come through his jitters and playing well. Varly’s as quick and talented as any goalie, around. He just needs to take more steps forward, than back, and I think his decision making has vastly improved, and, as of late, he is trying to use his athleticism in a positive way, without using it too much and end up making poor plays because of it. It helps him a whole lot that the defensemen are turning the puck over less, as well as the forwards playing a better end to end game. Plays like David Jones’ on Hossa help. I think we just have to be patient and let this guy develop, the game will come to him. He’s too good not to think so.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
1) We match up really well with the Blackhawks. The Blackhawks played last night and the Avs had 4 days off. These things do make a difference but hey all teams have to find ways to win those type of games also.
But if the Avs had come out slow because of the time off and Chicago had gotten the first goal, it would have been a completely different night. Kudos to the Avs for coming out strong (even if a lot of it was in their own zone for much of the 1st).
4) Hossa is a bitch
Hossa is a bitch.
he is trying to use his athleticism in a positive way, without using it too much and end up making poor plays because of it
If he can learn only one thing from Giggy it’s positioning and efficiency of movement. Sometimes less is more.
That's no moon...
I found Goalie Guild’s post on the whole goalie coach thing very interesting, and how he covered that Varly can learn a lot by watching Giggy. Varly is playing very well of late and we know that McLean was off in Calgary, so maybe he’s getting more help from Giggy? Giggy is just the perfect teammate for Varly (and the rest of the team).
I agree. Signing Giggy was one of the best moves we’ve made in a while. For Varly goalie coach or not, having the steady hand of Giggy who has “been there – done that” has to help. Knowing the franchise sees him not only as the no 1, but also the long-term future gives him confidence, even after bad nights. Finally looking up at the rafters and seeing #33 hanging there gives him inspiration and something to strive for.
That's no moon...
1) Hawks not only played last night, but they played a back and forth game with a very pissed off Flyers team, and a lot of guys clearly didn’t have anything in the tank. Even so, Avs didn’t win because they out skated the Hawks- they won because the Hawks made stupid mistakes and the Avs took advantage. Then once most of the team pretty much quit (see: top 3 lines minus Toews), Avs kept pounding away. Kudos to the Avs for not taking their foot off the gas and taking two points.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
So are you saying the Blackhawks are very well conditioned but very stupid?
by Pinchy The Lobster on Jan 7, 2012 12:30 AM MST up reply actions
I'm saying they played like garbage tonight and the Avs took advantage
As a good team would.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
I am super happy for the win, but mostly found the game to be boring to watch.
The Hawks played like crap. Crawford was wooden and barely even attempted to stop most of the shots/goals. I seriously thought he would get pulled after the 3rd goal, where the only part of his body that moved towards the puck was when he turned his head to watch it go in.
Maybe they were tired, maybe they just gave up, but either way it wasn’t entertaining.
Still — good on Varly for the shutout. I don’t mean to diminish that at all.
I feel like this is subtly mocking us…
But I’ll accept it any ways.
I am boobs.
by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Jan 7, 2012 12:32 AM MST up reply actions
Nice comments by Marty Turco on NHL Tonight about Varly. To sum it up:
-Playing with confidence
-Helps him to be more unpredictable, poke checking initiating contact etc
-Incredibly flexible, quick and very good down low
-He’s stopped waiting for shots and instead challenges every puck that comes at him
Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results
by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 6, 2012 10:35 PM MST reply actions
they gave a response tonight. Is that the first time that has happen?
by avalanchejef on Jan 6, 2012 10:39 PM MST up reply actions
what?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 6, 2012 10:42 PM MST up reply actions
NHL tonight. They almost always just show the goals and big saves then moves to the the next game
by avalanchejef on Jan 6, 2012 10:44 PM MST up reply actions
oh ya gotcha. Rarely do they talk much. But Turco was pretty high on Varly
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 6, 2012 10:45 PM MST up reply actions
I’d snort a line off his eyebrow as well.
I am boobs.
by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Jan 6, 2012 10:52 PM MST up reply actions
The less press the better. I don’t need the national media sniffing around here talking like they know what they’re talking about. Happy when they (and many of our own fans) underestimate this team.
Agree 100%
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 7, 2012 9:56 AM MST up reply actions
Nice win tonight. I like the ’Hawks, as far as other teams go. But not when they play the Avs. And it was a fun game thread.
Whiskey tends to make me high, and sad songs make me cry. Pretty women break my heart almost every night. I run on beans and nicotine; I'm a real, live buckaroo. And my heart's not pure, my boots ain't clean, and I never tell the truth.
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And found this beauty of the 2nd goal of the night (Gali’s). They weren’t happy with it. I am.
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by andidee15 on Jan 6, 2012 10:52 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Chicago
Sucks.
I believe.
by Lost Winter on Jan 6, 2012 10:58 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Johnson, Hjarlmarsson, Sharp, Kane, Bolland. Those are no slouches
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 6, 2012 11:20 PM MST up reply actions
I know EJ puts the puck in his own net sometimes
But no need to count him on our team. :P
8 is Nick Leddy, probably one of the best dudes on your team tonight.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
my mistake, didnt you guys used to have a Johnson on your team? What # was he?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 7, 2012 12:29 AM MST up reply actions
We acquired Kim Johnsson from Minny in the deal that also brought Nick Leddy for Cam Barker
He played for less than half a season, got a concussion and was never seen again. Seriously. Google “Mystery of Kim Johnsson” But yeah, he was number 8.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
ah yep. Mixed those two up
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 7, 2012 12:46 AM MST up reply actions
Wasn’t there an Aaron Johnson at some point as a 5-6 guy?
Ahhh nvm, that was back in 08-09.. He’s with the BJs now.
by Mapletreemarty on Jan 7, 2012 5:31 AM MST up reply actions
Their entire forward line had the best seats in the house for it!
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 11:44 PM MST up reply actions
The video highlights are to the wrong game. Horrible turnover by EJ. Actually, the clip made me realize how happy I was tonight to not hear that stupid fucking Blackhawk goal song.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
Budududududududu
I am boobs.
by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Jan 6, 2012 11:12 PM MST up reply actions
What’s wrong with you? The recovery was excellent, and his pressure really made the goal. Good lord, 4-0 over one of the best teams in the league. Enjoy it, maybe?
by DiD on Jan 6, 2012 11:15 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
The video highlights linked above are to the last game in Chicago. The first Blackhawk goal was a direct result of a give away by EJ from behind his own net.
I enjoyed tonight’s game immensely. Especially the Teej. He was a monster.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 11:34 PM MST up reply actions
Ah, I thought you meant this goal, because that started on an EJ fumble but ended with EJ goodness.
I’ll have to look again, but I do wonder how we got four guys down low without anyone…ah, who cares? Great goal it was.
I forgot how Landy tied that game with less than 2 minutes left. Great play. But man, do I ever hate that Chicago goal music. Absolute crap. And we didn’t have to hear it once tonight. ;)
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 11:42 PM MST up reply actions
Until I clicked on the video link above to find the wrong game, that is. Starting my confusion and yours.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Jan 6, 2012 11:45 PM MST up reply actions
okay, I must be the confused one because they look right to me
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 7, 2012 6:21 AM MST up reply actions
I’ve got the wrong highlights also. The last Chicago game as far as I can tell, I think it’s been this game every time I ’ve tried to watch the highlights in the last while.
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I figured it out. just so happens that other Chicago game is the default code we’re using for the template. we change the code for each game and what we’re doing works fine on my browser, but it looks like we have to make another change as well. should be fixed now.
if you want to skip the preceding paragraph, the main point is “fixed”
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 7, 2012 8:04 AM MST up reply actions
That’s exactly why the NHLPA did it. Fehr’s not at all dumb, and he’s representing his clients very well.
yep, absolutely right…… the obvious concern is that it’ll lead to the game (and the fans) getting screwed again
Owners are self-interested greedheads, but there is no way they will have another work stoppage. No way in hell.
Yeah, I keep getting shown that I’m an idiot every time I start thinking that the world is not filled with idiots.
by Andy_ on Jan 7, 2012 8:21 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
I am absolutely floored. In a best-case scenario, I never would have guessed the Avs could put together a run like they have over the last 12 games. Earlier this season I was even preparing myself to take some time away to try and stop following the team as much. And now this.
To be honest, all I can do is give Sacco a hell of a lot of credit. They lose Quincey for a while. They get better. They lose Wilson for a while. They get better. They lose Duchene for a while and they just beat one of the hottest teams in the league followed by one of the best teams in the league on the road. Pretty soon I’m going to be making silly statements like, “the Avs are worth the price of admission.”
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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
by Dixomatic on Jan 7, 2012 12:11 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Its a good thing the Avs decided to play because Sacco couldn’t coach his way out of a plastic bag.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
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Good win for the Avs
I like the Avs and I’m glad to see them rebound with a vengeance like this. I’d just preferred it didn’t extend into tonight…
Avs played pretty much the perfect game plan for beating the Hawks: Forecheck like mad and clog the middle of the ice. Completely negates the Hawks speed and their love of looking for backdoor goals. They’re terrible at getting dirty goals from around the crease so if you do those two things, you win. Even though most of the league knows this, most teams can’t keep up for a whole game or get done in by one or two mistakes. Avs stuck to it, capitalized on the Hawks mistakes and Varly was a beast. Game over.
Good luck the rest of the year!
Chicagoan in the Lou.
by Mike Martin on Jan 7, 2012 12:33 AM MST reply actions 5 recs
I’m not sure we watched the same game. It looked to me like the whole game was pretty much played in one zone or another. Damn, but the Hawks are good. Even on an off-night it really felt like most of it was in the Avs’ defensive zone.
What the Avs did do well—and have done quite a lot on this run—is to not panic defensively. Put the puck to the outside and wait for the chance to break out. Didn’t happen? No problem. Repeat. And they are out-muscling other teams in front of Jiggy and Varly really well right now, without committing too many penalties.
yeah, I’m with Andy. I didn’t feel the Avs did much in the middle of the ice at all. it’s not the way they play
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 7, 2012 8:52 AM MST up reply actions
I’m not sure what you mean…I watched the whole game on GCL without any problems. And the game was 60 minutes, so I have no idea what you’re referring to when you say “the last 5”. The post-game? They always cut that off.
No soup for you!
Ive got to admit first that I have nothing to say.. Hopefully Sacco and the boys continue to prove me wrong. This team on paper looks like we need so much help up front.
Good game by our guys. Our teams identity is really coming into line. Grind it out, work hard.. There are not many teams that are as fast as our guys and as tough when we play like this.
If you check out the TSN and NHL comments, on their post game column we are actually starting to get some respect. “Avs are slipping in under the radar as one the hottest teams in the league right now. Right there with Boston and NY at 9-1-0.”
I am still a little skeptical and think we need another forward or an upgrade to continue this. But you cannot help but sit back and watch the games lately and just say “Wow that had to hurt” then end up screaming after they score. My hands were sweating the entire time waiting for the Avs to start to sit back but it never happened.
(On Stastny.. I think pretty much everyone that has watched all the games this year knows things are just not falling for him right now. You can still see he is working his ass off every game regardless of getting points or not. Some players give up and seem invisible when not scoring. (Stewart – and he was one of my favs) but this is why Stastny keeps his value because everyone in the league respects him as one of the top two way centers in the game. Even when he disappears from the score sheet he is still helping the team. Hes one of those guys that is a 1/2C when scoring but just as good at being a 3C when hes not. All the haters need to remember that even the best centers out there can only make their wingers so much better. If they don’t capitalize on the opportunities he gives them. Or can’t get at least somewhat open their is nothing he can do. Except go to the net more and shoot himself – See his 11G / 11A – and hes never been billed as a goal scorer EVER.)
by CobraAcesS on Jan 7, 2012 3:22 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Again, I think the question is: Are we just hitting a good streak or has this team finally legitimately hit it’s stride? I’ve never been one that thought this team was short on talent. You could always use more, but this team had it. Will we follow this up with a 1-8-1 run or is this part of a serious push to get into the post season play and the mirror opposite of the 2nd half of last season? Here’s hoping for the latter…
That's no moon...
Checked out the highlights, seems the boys put in work…however, I am kinda pissed that I missed the GDT.
So. Much. Quality.
I’m off tomorrow, no way I miss this next game. Nope. No siree.
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ya this one was fun
Randy and SteveHouse need to be in more GDT’s and Cheryl should keep drinking during
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by Cole D Hamilton on Jan 7, 2012 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
It turned into a spidey thread xD
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Jan 7, 2012 11:22 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Once again: SO. MUCH. QUALITY!
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"Dude, switch seats with me? Jonathan Toews hasn't blinked in about 20 minutes, and I'm starting to fear for my life. - Corey Perry" (Down Goes Brown)
by Chris Damasceno on Jan 7, 2012 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
...test...
"Noooo!!!" - Referee, Oilers @ Avs, 26.11.2011
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, for everything but mathematics. Blood and Thunder Record: 9-12-1 (Total Record: 10-13-1)
by Tempestuous Binary on Jan 7, 2012 3:48 AM MST reply actions
Don't know what's up, but I've had trouble logging in and commenting on MHH (and other SB Nation blogs).
Seems fixed now, I guess.
I caught all but the late-3rd period. Jones’ goal was all on Gali.
"Noooo!!!" - Referee, Oilers @ Avs, 26.11.2011
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, for everything but mathematics. Blood and Thunder Record: 9-12-1 (Total Record: 10-13-1)
by Tempestuous Binary on Jan 7, 2012 3:50 AM MST up reply actions
...you looked
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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Holy Miracle on Ice, did any of you see the score of the DU game? Alabama Huntsville? Really?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 7, 2012 8:54 AM MST reply actions
I googled, 5 ice skating rinks in all of the bama.
Peter McNabb thinks I'm outstanding.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Jan 7, 2012 8:59 AM MST up reply actions
Cuba looks old.
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Is it bad that I thought it was PK Subban in the offseason…?
I am boobs.
by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Jan 7, 2012 10:42 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
EJ has quite lopsided nips, hahaha
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.
by ProfessorOak on Jan 7, 2012 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
I think it’s more the angle of the shot, plus his one shoulder is higher.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 7, 2012 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
Good overall win for the boys last night. Galiardicus was an absolute beast. Is it time to change the “What a bunch of Stastnys” yet?
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Someone made a gif of the Varly celebration last night!
by vtcapsfan99 on Jan 7, 2012 9:58 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
He’s such a dope. I love him.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 7, 2012 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
What a goof ball….
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Jan 7, 2012 10:11 AM MST up reply actions
And this is why we love our Ninja Spider.
The shutout was pretty cool too.
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humongous dopey?
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.
by ProfessorOak on Jan 7, 2012 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
He seems to enjoy winning as much as any goalie I have ever seen. To the point where his celebrations are pure and random and instinctual. Like a kid who just got a great christmas present and doesn’t know what to do. Not many goalies enjoy winning this much. It’s amazing, captivating, and invigorating to watch.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
and I hope it never goes away with age
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.
by ProfessorOak on Jan 7, 2012 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
It is great to watch the pure joy of the celebrations, and they aren’t mocking celebrations either, like that Czech goalie in the WJC that went a bit too far. It’s nice to see him so happy.
In 24/7 Lundqvist was talking about how there was a lot of stuff to do in NYC and he enjoyed it, except when they weren’t winning, then he didn’t do anything because he couldn’t stand losing. Goalies are strange creatures. Some goalies seem to really hate losing, but I don’t know if that translates to joy in winning.
Varly -
Puck Daddy’s 1st star last night.
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deservedly so
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.
by ProfessorOak on Jan 7, 2012 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
And why not NHL.com? Lundqvist was better even though he allowed one goal? There goes that East Coast bias again.
by Go Avs and Mavs on Jan 7, 2012 1:37 PM MST up reply actions
For those who listen to Pandora
90’s alternative/grunge is a great station
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.
I flippin’ hate that I can’t listen to Pandora. :(
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 7, 2012 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
I made a fun personal station like this on Slacker. Slacker kicks SiriusXM’s ass so bad.
"He who fucks nuns will later join the church." -The Clash
I have a Sirius subscription. Works for me.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Jan 7, 2012 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
I love my sirius XM radio
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 7, 2012 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
Sirius does not have commercials. Pandora has commercials. ’Nuff said.
(Tho I do love Pandora.)
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 7, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
Alt Nation also rocks.
Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 7, 2012 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
er
That’s Sirius/XM. Clearly reading is hard for me.
Duchene may be the face of this franchise, but O’Reilly is the heart. - Guitarpick8120
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by Cheryl Bradley on Jan 7, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
My favorite station on XM
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Jan 7, 2012 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
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