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It's that time of year again. The trade deadline is almost upon us. GM's phones are buzzing constantly and fans wait with bated breath to see who they will be welcoming and saying good-bye to in the next few days.

Let me go on the record as saying that I personally don't think the Avs are going to do too much this year. With the CBA almost up and 16 of our 24-man roster looking for extensions, I don't think we'll see any big blockbusters like we did last season. Even though that seems slightly counter-intuitive, we don't have the gaping holes in our roster that we did last year. There are still a lot of battles for spots going on right now, and unless Sherman is 100% sure that a player has no future with the organization, I think he'll just sit on his hands and see how the rest of the season plays out before shaking things up this summer.

But knowing this team, assuming that they'll be quiet almost guarantees something's going down before Monday, February 27 at 3:00PM EST.

Either way, deadline speculation is fun and entertaining. The "what-ifs" are endless, and it gives us something to talk about on non-game days.

Coming up to the deadline, teams are generally considered either buyers or sellers. I'd say the Avs are likely to be both this year, but they'll probably be more interested in selling than buying. However, there are plenty of areas that the team could realistically decide to change up over the next few days. I'll break them down after the jump.

Star-divide

To Sell

Goalie Prospects: We have 8 goalies in the system right now. Because even I got confused when trying to type up paragraphs about them, I've included a chart that should help.

Last First Summer Status League Team GP GAA Sv% SO
Giguere J.S. Signed NHL COL 26 2.09 0.923 1
Varlamov Semyon Signed NHL COL 31 3.00 0.898 2
Pickard Calvin Signed WHL Seattle 48 3.41 0.911 4
Desjardins Cedrick RFA AHL LEM 14 1.85 0.941 2
Cann Trevor RFA AHL LEM 25 2.92 0.902 0
Millan Keiran Rights Expire NCAA Boston U. 24 2.44 0.925 3
Patterson Kent Rights Expire NCAA U. of Minnesota 29 2.04 0.918 6
Aittokallio Sami Rights Expire SM-liiga Ilves Tampere 9 2.78 0.910 0

Pickard, Patterson, and Millan are all in their final years of eligibility. Even if Trevor Cann walks and Aittokallio stays in Europe, we will still have 4 extremely talented young goalies competing for 2 AHL positions. Desjardins is often injured, but puts up the best numbers of the group. Pickard just became the WHL leader in saves this season. Patterson starts for the #2 team in the nation and set a school record for the most shutouts earlier this year, and Millan starts for the #1 ranked team.

Since NHL teams only have 50 contracts, we can't afford to use 7-8 on goalies. However, letting these outstanding prospects go for nothing would be a terrible mistake. My guess is that someone's rights get traded at the deadline.

Defensemen: While we will probably have to move a goalie or two, we can afford to keep our depth on the blueline. However, we currently have 10 players/prospects that are NHL-ready and room for only 6 (maybe 7) of them with the Avs.

Last First Summer Status
Johnson Erik RFA
Quincey Kyle RFA
Wilson Ryan RFA
Hunwick Matt UFA
O'Brien Shane UFA
Hejda Jan Signed
O'Byrne Ryan Signed
Barrie Tyson Signed
Elliott Stefan Signed
Gaunce Cameron Signed

That's quite the logjam of good, young players with more on the way (such as Siemens in a few years). Because of this, defensemen are by far the Avs best bargaining chip. Since it's our strongest organizational position, we can afford to trade away some of our better players without shooting ourselves in the foot.

Erik Johnson is about the only untouchable. Sherman paid a lot for the former first overall last year - trading him away so soon would reflect VERY badly on that blockbuster trade. It's also doubtful that he'd move the young players either (Barrie, Elliott and Gaunce) since they are so early in their development that their true potential remains unclear.

This means that Quincey, Wilson, O'Brien, Hejda and O'Byrne could be on the market. Hunwick almost certainly is. The majority of these players would be great 2nd pairing defensemen on just about any team in the league, and Quincey and Wilson might even be good enough for the first pair with the right club.

Do I want to see any of our blueliners moved? Besides Hunwick, no, not really. But since you have to give up something good to get something good in return, trading a defenseman would do the least amount of damage to our team's overall talent.

To Buy

Top 6 Winger:

Last First Summer Status
Duchene Matt RFA
Mueller Peter RFA
Hejduk Milan UFA
Jones David UFA
Landeskog Gabriel Signed
Hishon Joey Signed

It looks like a good group on paper, but unfortunately Hejduk, Jones, Mueller and Hishon are still major question marks for various reasons. Hejduk's slowing down and could retire soon, Jones looks out of place in our new puck-possession system, Mueller's not been back from his concussion long enough for me to completely rule out another setback, and it's unclear when (or even if) Hishon will resume skating after his concussion.

Add in the fact Matt Duchene is still out with an knee injury, and it's easily the place where our team needs the most help.

Ideally, what this team needs is another high-scoring power forward. Both Jones and Hishon could fit the bill, but neither of them seem like good long-term solutions right now.

Parise would of course be the perfect fit since he's good defensively, amazing offensively, a strong leader, and has a known chemistry with Stastny from their time on Team USA. The only downside is that everybody else thinks he'd be a perfect fit for their team too. If he does hit the market, either trade or UFA, he's going to be extremely pricey. He'd certainly help us in the short term, but the long-term implications of any move that would allow us to be the highest bidder could easily be pretty nasty.

If Sherman does make a move for a Top 6 winger, expect it to be more along the lines of a reclamation project a la Mueller and Fleischmann. Honestly, Chris Stewart could be a strong candidate. It would be a pretty crazy turn of events, but I think we're more likely to end up with CGDS back in a unipron than seeing Parise moving to Denver.

#2 Defenseman: Erik Johnson has buckets of potential and is our proclaimed #1 Franchise Defenseman. However, he is only 23 and still makes quite a few mistakes, especially when he doesn't trust his D-partner. If we were looking to upgrade our blueline, the first priority would be finding him a solid long-term partner, preferably someone in their late-20's early-30's has quite a bit of NHL experience that a 2-way player like EJ would feel comfortable with.

Ryan Suter is a big name that has been floating around the rumor mills a lot lately that would instantly make this team better. Since there are quite a few similarities between EJ and Weber's style of play, I think that someone like Suter would be the perfect partner for Johnson. However, just like Parise, the risk of over payment to bring in Suter would be extremely high.

Unfortunately, franchise blueliners are extremely difficult to come by. And unlike last year, the Avs aren't in desperate need of help on the back end. They may make a move to upgrade, but my bet would be that they end up defenseman sellers rather than buyers.

First Round Draft Pick: Who doesn't like those? The Avs traded theirs to Washington this year and probably wouldn't mind getting a replacement.

Poll
What would you like to see the Avs do on Deadline Day?
Mostly stay put, making only a minor prospect swap or two
66 votes
Make a deal for a Top 6 Winger
172 votes
Make a deal for a #2 defenseman
13 votes
Sell some players off for draft picks
40 votes
SELL EVERYONE LIKE THE PLACE IS BURNING DOWN!!!
19 votes

310 votes | Poll has closed

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At this stage I think the best option is to stay relatively still.

However, if a deal can be made for a top 6 talent (Ruutu Level, or higher, preferably) for any combination of a Defender/Bottom 6 Guy/Goalie prospect/Low draft pick I say go for it.

We have such an intense log jam going on for defensive spots (NHL) and Goaltending spots (AHL) that dealing either of these would be a good idea if the right deal came along. Better to lose a prospect to a trade then let them go altogether.

by LeonardoC6 on Feb 13, 2012 7:14 AM MST reply actions  

Outside of Desjardins (who is injured a LOT)…I don’t think the Avs goaltending is all that logjammed, at least for the near future. There are some prospects that are coming down the pipe that may change that, but they are likely not NHL ready for 4-5 years

Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!

by chiavsfan on Feb 13, 2012 7:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Pickard seems like the #1 prospect for the moment. He’s about 20 now, so your time frame of 4-5 years until NHL ready seems fairly realistic. That being said, if all goes according to plan, the Avs shouldn’t need another #1 goalie until well past Pickard being ready.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 13, 2012 8:32 AM MST up reply actions  

That’s the hope. Goalies are a fickle beast…remember the hype about Philipe Sauve? Ugh

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by chiavsfan on Feb 13, 2012 8:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Definitely. So lesson being, there is relatively no such thing as too much depth for goalie prospects.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 13, 2012 8:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Agree there. I’m not sure any of those chips, outside Pickard, are worth a whole lot (unless the Avs entertain trading Varlamov, which I don’t think they will, or should)

Like Chi said, goalies are fickle and the Avs haven’t had a whole lot of luck with them. Having a lot in their system gives them a better chance of at least 1 panning out.

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 13, 2012 9:13 AM MST up reply actions  

If they stumble upon another #1 goalie that can only be beneficial though, if their system can actually fully develop the prospect to his potential. Varly’s done well this season in regards to injuries, but that could change. Also, another #1 goalie could have some trade value.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 13, 2012 9:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I wonder what the asking price for Lindback is…

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by Mike @ MHH on Feb 13, 2012 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

the log jam is who will play in LEM next year.

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by ProfessorOak on Feb 13, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m thinking the same thing, don’t do too much, but if they do, trade D/goalie for it. Should be interesting to see what happens.

Andidee, I guess you complied your stats on the goalies before this weekend, right? Because the big Varly fan in me knows he’s at 32 games now with .899 save. Just waiting for that to get back over .900 again. Jiggy has 27 GP now with slightly better stats. Neither of those players is a big change from your chart, but Sami has actually played 11 games for lower level leagues as well as SM-liiga. Check out his elite prospects profile.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 13, 2012 8:29 AM MST up reply actions  

I think I compiled this Thursday night, so yes, it’s ever so slightly outdated.

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by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 8:36 AM MST up reply actions  

We demand accurate up to date information at all times for the amount we pay to be here! Shouldn’t you be working harder in your volunteer position here!!! Put in a better effort or you might get your pay docked!!!

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by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 13, 2012 9:02 AM MST up reply actions  

dickwad

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 13, 2012 9:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Oooh, profanity adlibs is the best game.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 13, 2012 9:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Fuck____ _ Hole___

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 13, 2012 9:18 AM MST up reply actions  

OK

now we need a gerund.

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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 13, 2012 4:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, we definitely have the depth at D to make a trade if the right opportunity comes around, but there is absolutely not a need to force something just for the sake of a trade.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 13, 2012 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

I don’t see a whole lot of value for other teams in players the Avs would be willing to give up right now. All the GMs seeming to be grousing about the high prices so getting someone to overpay will be difficult.

Quincey for someone that can score consistently would be about the only thing I would like to see, but that’s not a likely deal. Jones has little value other than being a throw-in on a bigger trade. I bet there’s a few teams that could use Winnik/McC as PK specialists but our PK could be troubling without them.

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by earl06 on Feb 13, 2012 8:34 AM MST reply actions  

this comment is pretty much the short-version of the story I’m doing at 11

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 13, 2012 8:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Well then I agree with what you are about to say.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 13, 2012 8:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Stastny- Top 2 Center, only 25. Loads of talent and is certainly on the market. If he doesn’t go this year he will sometime in the next two seasons.

Quincey-Top 4 dman with offensive upside and the ability to punish. Bit streaky, but so is everyone in the NHL.

O’Brien- Big depth Dman with loads of playoff experience and a reestablished reputation.

Defensive prospects- Gaunce, Barrie and Elliott aren’t totally in the clear either.

Jones-Former 27. Bad season but has shown he can put it away. Teams will like his size.

Everyone is a UFA or an RFA. It’s gonna be a big year. That being said, you’ve proved me wrong before DDC. Your post and a little time will tell =) Don’t undersell our Avs. We have a little talent.

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by GeorgeInLimbo on Feb 13, 2012 9:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I’ve seen Caps fans lust after Stastny in their eternal search for a #2 center. Although I won’t be surprised if the Caps don’t do much at the deadline because they are in real danger of not making the playoffs. Stastny with 2 more years at $6.6 mil cap hit, not sure they’d want to take that on, but if they got rid of Semin it could work. How would you feel about Semin plus something else for Statsny?

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 13, 2012 9:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Ugh, no. No no no no no. NO. shudder Nah ah. No. NO NO NO. NO.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 13, 2012 9:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Talented, sure. But do not see Semin fitting in with the personality of the team at all. Don’t see him putting butts in the seats at Pepsi Center either. If the Avs are going to shell out the bucks for somebody, they’ll have to do both.

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by earl06 on Feb 13, 2012 9:21 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

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He gets along well with teammates

And maybe Varly needs a friend?

IMG_9202 Varly and Semin

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 13, 2012 9:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Or at least a roommate till he can learn better English.

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by GeorgeInLimbo on Feb 13, 2012 9:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe a beautiful romance will bloom as hinted at in your first photo.

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by GeorgeInLimbo on Feb 13, 2012 9:32 AM MST up reply actions  

That is a groin injury waiting to happen.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 13, 2012 9:35 AM MST up reply actions  

haha

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by GeorgeInLimbo on Feb 13, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

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That first photo is actually Sasha on Neuvy’s back this season. Don’t worry, he’s also friendly to Vokoun.

Sasha-Semin-hugs-Vokoun-Hurricanes_01152012

I think Sasha is already taken in the romance department.

Alexes

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 13, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Was this at the premier of Sideways?

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 13, 2012 9:35 AM MST up reply actions  

Second pic is from the Caps Casino night last year.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 13, 2012 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

(it’s a joke son, I say it’s a joke)

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 13, 2012 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh, I got that you were joking. I was just telling where it was from. Do the Avs do a charity casino night event? That seems to be a popular event for many NHL teams.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 13, 2012 10:02 AM MST up reply actions  

They do a charity fashion show with kids….

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by Americanario on Feb 13, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

I never thought I’d be so amused with a Foghorn Leghorn reference.

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by GeorgeInLimbo on Feb 13, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

so what you’re saying is that Semin relies on his teammates to carry him?

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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 13, 2012 4:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m not really enthralled with Semin (tee hee hee) but I don’t see why anyone other than a legit contender would trade for him when there’s about a 0.0000001% chance he re-signs with the Caps.

As a team who’s ceiling this year is a one & done round in the playoffs, with a very outside shot of a 1st round upset, I wouldn’t trade a whole lot for him.

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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 13, 2012 9:35 AM MST up reply actions  

This is true. But I think it is possible that Semin re-signs with the Caps if he’ll take a lot less money. Apparently he wants to stay and it appears that he gets along with Hunter a lot better than Boudreau. Should be really interesting what happens with him. Maybe if the Caps miss the playoffs, they will kind of blow up the team (fire McPhee, etc) and probably wouldn’t want Semin back then.

by vtcapsfan99 on Feb 13, 2012 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

We have plenty of talent to trade, just not what other teams are looking for in return for what we’d be trying to gain ourselves. If it’s a top scoring wing you want, Quince and Stastny are likely the only major chips we have to give and it’d have to be one hell of a wing to make it worth Stastny.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 13, 2012 9:08 AM MST up reply actions  

We don´t need that big name top scoring winger. You´ll never win a trade if your only going for the guy´s that are on the top already (reffering to all the praise, semin, nash talk). It´s better for the long therm and of course cheaper when we go for someone who showed he´s able to chip in and bet on him to get some chemistry with one of our lines.

Quincey + prospect for Jamie Benn or Kris Versteeg.

Florida is verry unlikley to make this trade since they need Versteeg in the Playoffs more than they would need another top 4 defenseman.

by Hazelnut on Feb 14, 2012 2:14 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m all for Jamie Benn or JVR. I’m not sure Dallas is too keen on trading away their young star, but I have heard some JVR rumors, so maybe we can get him (which would just about make my year). But I’d rather find someone with some size than go with another small forward like Versteeg. If our last top 6er is going to be under 6’, I want him to at least check everything in sight like he’s got a vendetta against the world (aka Hishon).

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by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 7:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed, less you’re talking trading for rights to negotiate a la Parise, etc. I sincerely doubt we’ll be so fortunate to sign a name like Parise though. I still think a “top scorer” like Benn or Versteeg will cost Quincey or similar in return.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 14, 2012 7:46 AM MST up reply actions  

but the Avs need offense. why would you move offensive players like Stastny, Barrie, Elliott or Jones?

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 13, 2012 9:09 AM MST up reply actions  

It's not about winning next season with the Avs.

It’s about winning in three seasons.

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by GeorgeInLimbo on Feb 13, 2012 9:11 AM MST up reply actions  

and has been for three seasons

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 13, 2012 9:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah. Talked with Edmonton and they said we were spoiled. Must of been chatting with Josh Kroenke

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by GeorgeInLimbo on Feb 13, 2012 9:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Is The Forth Period credible?

No one is truly credible at this time of year, but I posted a fan shot. Apparently The Forth Period thinks we’re in the mix to land Weber or Johnson. Just saying. Doubt Weber will happen but it was sure fun to read about.

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by GeorgeInLimbo on Feb 13, 2012 8:39 AM MST reply actions  

I can’t see how the Avs would pull this off

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 13, 2012 8:43 AM MST up reply actions  

No first round pick.

Still… fun to think about.

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by GeorgeInLimbo on Feb 13, 2012 8:45 AM MST up reply actions  

I read “The reality is Colorado still hasn’t recovered from the Kevin Shattenkirk deal …” and kind of mentally discredited the source.

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by earl06 on Feb 13, 2012 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Shattenkirk is good, and I would still love him here…but I’m with Earl on this one

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by chiavsfan on Feb 13, 2012 8:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Shatty’s a good player but we don’t miss him at all. Not. One. Bit. Whoever wrote that either a) doesn’t watch the Avs regularly or b) doesn’t understand hockey.

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by DiD on Feb 13, 2012 12:49 PM MST up reply actions  

We missed him a bit last season and in the beginning of this season, but it was a different team then.

by Ilkinio on Feb 13, 2012 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree but it’s hard to make a case that this team would be better with Shatty/Stewart that it is with EJ/Square Peg (forget the picks for now).

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by earl06 on Feb 13, 2012 3:05 PM MST up reply actions  

agreed

We miss Stewart, old Jones, and old Hejduk. You could argue we counted on Mueller as well.

We do NOT miss Shattenkirk in sum. His poor D was one of the reasons we struggled, frankly. Our PP might be a bit better with him (and maybe Liles too), but without them, I agree the D is stronger in aggregate.

by thedoctor on Feb 14, 2012 9:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Looking at just this year, if Elliot had been with the team all year they’d have very similar scoring numbers (in total) Elliott has 11 in 30 and Shattenkirk has 23 in 54. Quincey has completely replaced that offense by himself and plays better D.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 14, 2012 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

Haha, Weber? In my dreams.

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by Sean Harsha on Feb 13, 2012 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Love Weber, but I think I’d almost prefer Suter. Better fit for EJ methinks.

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by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Not really a situation were in a position to be picky about. I’ll take either one.

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by GeorgeInLimbo on Feb 13, 2012 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Hypothetically. I’d TAKE either one. I’m not counting on either hahahaha

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by GeorgeInLimbo on Feb 13, 2012 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, my fantasy has me banking on Suter AND Parise. My expectations have me banking on just resigning the key players, allowing Sherman to swim in the market if he so desires

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by Sean Harsha on Feb 13, 2012 2:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I’d like the Avs to be opportunistic. If something clicks that is really a meaningful upgrade, then do it. Otherwise, stand pat and wait for the offseason.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Feb 13, 2012 8:54 AM MST reply actions  

I agree with this totally, but also find it sooooo booorrrring.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 13, 2012 8:59 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m more worried about the offseason direction. If the Avs stand pat and hump the floor again, I might have to give up

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by chiavsfan on Feb 13, 2012 9:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh I’m sure they’ll at least make some token move that won’t help in the long-run, but would make it look like they’re trying. “New” sells.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 13, 2012 9:10 AM MST up reply actions  

They won’t be able to simultaneously sign their core players and hump the floor unless they go totally bottom of the barrel for all non-core players. I haven’t seen C6 this morning, but I don’t think that aligns with the business model that he envisions, and it makes no sense to me.

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by Busted Twigg on Feb 13, 2012 9:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Did you give up on the Blackhawks when they were infinitely shittier and had the worst management in all of pro sports? I see you refer to Colorado and Chicago as 1 and 1A, so I’m just wondering how you handled the shittyness of the Bill Wirtz era.

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by DiD on Feb 13, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions  

It made going to games a lot easier, and cheaper…that is for sure.

The Bill Wirtz era was like a Cubs thing to us, he would tease you with a big signing (about 2 years after that person would have been helpful), they would always have a decent patch of games and disappoint you in the end. Die hards kind of accepted the hell that was the Wirtz era, like they accept the Cubs as losers.

I also didn’t have cable and they didn’t show home games on TV anyway, so it was harder to be as die hard for.

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by chiavsfan on Feb 13, 2012 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep, with you on this. Stand pat less opportunity provides.

Meow-valanche. Prrr-valanche.

by Sean Harsha on Feb 13, 2012 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

I didn’t see an option for trading current NHL depth for a high quality prospect. That’s my choice.

I'll keep this brief.

by Dario on Feb 13, 2012 9:33 AM MST reply actions  

You make me sad :’(

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 10:23 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m so confused, do I rec this or do I flag it

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Feb 13, 2012 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

I did both.

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by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 10:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Who do you guys think moves down when Dutchy comes back? Barrie or VDG? Or just trade someone (Hunwick) for a late pick?

by stpn47 on Feb 13, 2012 11:42 AM MST reply actions  

C

the answer is C!

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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 13, 2012 5:02 PM MST up reply actions  

I always vote for whichever poll option is in all caps.

Seems legit.

by BraxtanFILM on Feb 13, 2012 2:31 PM MST reply actions  

thats what i did

Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results

by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 13, 2012 4:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Who is Candy?

"When you believe, the unbelievable can happen." -Tim Tebow

by Lost Winter on Feb 13, 2012 11:48 PM MST up reply actions  

She’s inside the van… come in and take a look…

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 14, 2012 12:05 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Don’t trade anyone. When Patrick Sharp was TJ’s age he had a grand total of 7 points in the NHL. If you can get a legit top 6 forward for Quincey then do it, I don’t think there’s anyone out there, and remember Q is just 26 and will probably hit his prime next year, so you might be able to get even more for him a year from now. The team may be better off sticking with a hotter (this month at least) David Jones rather than trading him for someone else’s problem. I say stand pat.

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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 13, 2012 3:43 PM MST reply actions  

Actually if we can get a Somebody Else’s Problem field I’m sure the Kroenkes would be all over it.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Feb 13, 2012 7:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Look at you getting some big time stick taps:
http://nhl-red-light.si.com/2012/02/13/trade-deadline-talk-west/?sct=nhl_t11_a0

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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 13, 2012 8:54 PM MST reply actions  

Just saw that. Holy crap. It’s not every day that you get your full name, not your screen name, published on the Sports Illustrated site. Totally wasn’t expecting that.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 9:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Pretty cool. I just saw it linked from Dater’s twitter. Congrats and thanks for the article.

by Go Avs and Mavs on Feb 13, 2012 9:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks!

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by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 9:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Ahhh, our sweet little Andi all grown up and playing with the big boys.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

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by Americanario on Feb 14, 2012 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

so my first thought, so THAT’S you’re last name? hahaha, second thought, congrats Andi!!! never forget us as you become super successful!

"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo

by ProfessorOak on Feb 13, 2012 10:30 PM MST up reply actions  

My first thought was “yeah, this blurb makes sense…. oh look, my name… OH MY GOD, THAT’S MY FULL NAME!”. I then had to go back and make sure it was Dater who wrote it. I emailed him about a week ago, and that’s how he found out my full name. But if was someone else, I was about to go into full-on lockdown mode because I obviously had a stalker who took the time to find out exactly what my last name was.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 10:34 PM MST up reply actions  

But since it’s out in the open now, you get bonus points if you’re able to correctly pronounce it. Good luck.

As a hint, it’s semi-de-Americanized Americanized Italianized French.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 10:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Der-ruu?

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 14, 2012 7:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Nope.

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by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 8:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Um, well, I guess Dater isn’t the one that wrote it, but I’m pretty sure that’s where Hackel got the information from.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 11:20 PM MST up reply actions  

has to, wait a few weeks for the job offers to come in!

"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo

by ProfessorOak on Feb 13, 2012 11:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Congrats. He should have also linked to the awesome Avengers pic.

How did he get your full last name, did he ask you?

I like Hackel a lot. He’s been getting some shit for his recent “the NHL should have these stats” column – turns out many of them are available on behindthenet.ca, and Hawerchuck made sure to point that out – but his column and Twitter is a daily read, and it’s pretty freaking great that he took the time to give you credit for what you wrote. Even though it’s the right thing to do, I guarantee you not all MSMers would have the courtesy to do the same thing.

Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 13, 2012 10:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I sent him an email after I posted the locker room photoshop asking him about the ‘01 team and this year’s roommate pairings. He didn’t come back with much – he doesn’t remember the seating chart from ’01 and says roomates change often. But since I introduced myself as, well, myself as well as my screen name, he knew what my last name was.

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by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 10:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Dater or Hackel? Now I’m confused. How did Hackel get it?

Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 13, 2012 10:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I just realized that too. Only think I can think is that Dater told him, or he seriously stalked me to find it out.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 10:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah. For all we know, Dater may have contributed pretty heavily to the Avs part of the piece. That’s the only explanation for putting a picture of David Jones on the hockey front page, in front of Bobby Ryan and Jeff Carter. Dater still seems to think Jones has some sort of value.

Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 13, 2012 10:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure that Dater is Hackel’s source on my last name, but this line:

They’ve lacked an elite puck-moving defenseman since they traded Kevin Shattenkirk to the Blues last season

makes me think that Dater definitely DIDN’T write that article given his affection for Elliott.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 11:02 PM MST up reply actions  

That and, well, I love Shattenkirk, but elite he aint.

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Feb 13, 2012 11:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I still don’t get this.

First of all, I’m not sure Shatty is an elite PMD. Hasn’t helped the Blues in the way that you think an elite PMD would, such as helping the team score goals (below average) and helping them on the PP (utterly abysmal).

Secondly, he has been replaced. Kyle Quincey was awful and injured last year. This year he’s a lot better, and guess what? His stats are pretty much identical to Shatty’s. He has almost been replaced down to the tiniest detail. One guy is 5-18-23 with 123 shots, the other guy is 6-17-23 with 112 shots*. Who’s who? Who cares? How is this a problem for the Avs?

*That’s Shatty, by the way. But let me now ask this – how is Shatty getting all the attention, but Pietrangelo’s the guy leading the defense with 29 points? And also, take a look at this bunch and tell me how they have one of the stingiest defenses in the league? Is it mostly because of their goalies?

I get that not every writer can put everything that every team does under a microscope, but it’s not that difficult to get the basics right. This team has a lot of problems, losing Shatty isn’t in the top 50.

Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 14, 2012 12:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Secondly, he has been replaced. Kyle Quincey was awful and injured last year. This year he’s a lot better, and guess what? His stats are pretty much identical to Shatty’s

He’s also quite a bit better defensively.

But I will say this about StL: they have a very underrated defense. Pietrangelo was one of the reasons StL felt ok trading away Johnson and Jackman is pretty underrated, IMO. I don’t know much about Coalaiacovo other than he has so many vowels in his name that he’s likely polynesian.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Feb 14, 2012 8:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Jackman has been solid for years upon years.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 14, 2012 9:05 AM MST up reply actions  

I really like Pietrangelo. Good, solid young defenseman.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Well, I sent that email to Dater. I didn’t realize that Dater wasn’t the one that wrote that until just now.

He must have told Hackel.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 13, 2012 10:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Dater freelances for SI.com AND the wings suck.

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 13, 2012 10:42 PM MST up reply actions  

You famous.

Can I have your autograph?

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 13, 2012 10:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice!

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 14, 2012 7:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind trading Quincey, Jones or Hunwick, but I like what O’Brien brings to the table I think the Avs need to get him a contract extension instead of a trade. Obviously all the young guys should be off limits, this is supposed to be a rebuild. I don’t see the Avs making much of a splash, especially if they continue to lose, there’s no way they’ll make a big move then.

by UTBroncofan on Feb 13, 2012 9:11 PM MST reply actions  

yeah, third due to injury way back when, and then didn’;t get his job back. Whatever, they are just mad that they have an elite team and aren’t living up to that.

"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo

by ProfessorOak on Feb 13, 2012 11:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I know, I just thought this was funny.

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 14, 2012 12:04 AM MST up reply actions  

oh it definitely is.

"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo

by ProfessorOak on Feb 14, 2012 12:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Frakin’ Phoenix. They just keep picking up points…

by BraxtanFILM on Feb 14, 2012 12:06 AM MST reply actions  

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