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Colorado Avalanche's Erik Johnson is getting some love.

Erik Johnson played like he had a score to settle with the St. Louis Blues on Saturday night. The young Avalanche defenseman was chippy but did not commit a penalty, and his mean streak was pure benefit to his team.

Johnson scored a power-play goal, using his big shot from the point to perfection, and did not commit a defensive-end turnover. Overall, it was the type of game the Avs expect Johnson to have regularly — and what the Blues expected from him when they took him with the first pick in the 2006 draft.

The Avs believe Johnson, 23, will fulfill his lofty long-term potential if he continues to play with a mean streak and keep his body in continuous motion during shifts.

A fairly in-depth article about the Trade Deadline Day.

Every NHL trading deadline differs from the one before and last year, the overriding theme was how many of the most important deals were done weeks or even a month before TSN assembled their multiple panels and began the nine hours of chatter and analysis.

That, obviously, isn’t happening this time around. Just about every general manager tells you the same thing - it’s quiet, eerily quiet, and it’s pretty clear why.

So often in the past, teams that have fallen by the wayside would move assets to contenders in exchange for help down the road.

TheScore is looking at the Calder race, and surprisingly, Gabriel Landeskog is one of Cams favorites.

For Colorado, Landeskog would be my pick as Calder front-runner even with a healthy Nugent-Hopkins; the young Avalanche centre has lead the team in Corsi and quality of competition and has become an offensive force ever since Colorado head coach Joe Sacco started playing him more in the offensive end starting in around early December, playing at a 20-goal, 49-point per 82 game pace since December 1.

These factors aside, Landeskog also leads all rookies in shots (we all know how much I like looking at that statistic) and is probably the one who is the best at moving the puck forward into those shooting positions.

So even while Nugent-Hopkins waits on the sideline for medical clearance, I’m not sold he ought to be back in an Edmonton sweater for the remainder of the season. In the meantime, there is still an impressive crop of rookies to follow who have exceeded their expectations at the early stage of their National Hockey League careers.

Most of you know I love highlighting the philanthropist ways of NHL players. Dustin Penner has taken a lot heat over a comment, but true to NHL'er form, he turned this into a positive, with the help of IHOP, raising almost $3,000 for charity.

Whatever you may think of Dustin Penner as a hockey player, one’s thing for sure – the Los Angeles Kings’ forward is one funny man. It’s something that should have been obvious to people a month ago, when back spasms forced him to miss a game against the Columbus Blue Jackets.

The day after, Penner compared his painful, bent-over posture to being in the "third stage of evolution," a description that should have provided a clue to the humorous context of what came next – an admission that his back problems originally flared up while digging into a stack of his wife Jessica’s "delicious" pancakes.

But the nuance of his tone and the timing of his delivery was lost in cyberspace, where it was simply interpreted as the worst kind of dog-ate-my-homework excuse from a slumping player, who’d just missed a game against the NHL’s worst team because of a breakfast-related injury.

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Love the Landy love. Too bad he isn’t a “centre”. More like a “wingre”.

The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.

by Randy Time on Feb 14, 2012 4:30 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

If RNH keeps getting hurt Landy looks more like the “default” winner of the Calder.

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by chiavsfan on Feb 14, 2012 5:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Nah

Right now I’d give it to Henrique. Yes he’s playing with some elite players but it doesn’t make sense to hold that against him because it isn’t like he isn’t succeeding in other areas of the game. Everyone loves Landeskog’s all-around game but Henrique gets time on the PK and plays in all situations, too. Hodgson is charging hard but unless he starts scoring at an outrageous rate that simply can’t be ignored, I think this is a two-horse race and Landeskog’s big trump card doesn’t hold as much water when matched up next to Henrique.

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 5:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Landeskog did his time on the PK, too, but earned his way onto the PP. It’s not his fault that the Avs will “never have another power play again” (™ by the office of the senior vice president of player safety and hockey operations).

I haven’t watched Henrique so I have no idea about the comparison, though.

by Andy_ on Feb 14, 2012 7:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Henrique also had proximity to NYC to his benefit. Not to harp on the East Coast Bias© theme again, but he does have a much larger audience of Calder voters in a 50 mile radius.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Feb 14, 2012 8:03 AM MST up reply actions  

And a sexier overall profile.

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 8:04 AM MST up reply actions  

My daughters would disagree.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Feb 14, 2012 8:06 AM MST up reply actions  

facedesk

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 8:09 AM MST up reply actions  

One of these days you’re going to break your desk doing this.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 14, 2012 8:22 AM MST up reply actions  

or my face

either way something has to give, man

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 8:29 AM MST up reply actions  

I think not.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 11:32 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow.

Even I’m a little “drooly.”

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 14, 2012 2:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Was waiting for this all day

finallyyyyy

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 2:34 PM MST up reply actions  

The deadline article makes me more convinced than ever that the avs will not do much, if anything, at the deadline.

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by TheRed on Feb 14, 2012 4:58 AM MST reply actions  

I think this is true of most teams.

The Avs are in a peculiar spot because even if they decide to go full blown seller mode, they don’t have very many attractive pieces that they should get up unless it’s an EJ type of trade where the return is significant and the biggest piece lost is easily replaced. If the Avs decide they’re buyers, they still don’t have very many attractive pieces that they can afford to lose. I agree with Dario that the Avs should be looking to make an O’Byrne type of trade, only in reverse.

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 5:52 AM MST up reply actions  

yeah, too many teams are too close to be making huge deals. And with the Avs and what they have, any big deal would be lateral imo.

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by TheRed on Feb 14, 2012 1:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Those were my thoughts when I was reading it. I mean, if they can get a “piece” for a low price. a la Winnik, I can see that they’d do it. But I don’t see them making any huge changes… although they did make some rather large splashes last year near the trade deadline… February 18th they traded Anderson for Elliott, the same day they traded Stewart and Shattenkirk for Johnson, McClement (and Siemens). They also got (in a minor trade) Shawn Belle. Last year I really thought they’d do nothing. I still can’t see them doing much though.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 14, 2012 5:57 AM MST up reply actions  

But Anderson for Elliott ended up being a lateral move, and the Belle deal really was not “Avs specific”…their big splash was it. I don’t see many teams doing anything “big splash” this year.

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by chiavsfan on Feb 14, 2012 6:06 AM MST up reply actions  

I know it was a lateral move, but if you go back to our threads, we didn’t see it that way. Nor did most of the media.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 14, 2012 6:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Because Brian Elliott sucked in Ottawa

and then sucked in Colorado and now he’s a Vezina candidate in St. Louis. The fuck.

Compared to Andy, who carried us to the playoffs and then mysteriously FELL OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH asgikjashlkdfjaslfhjlgavsdfgoddamnitttttttasgkjahsdlafkhsndgkj.avbhsd

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 6:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Opposite directions

2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest

by chiavsfan on Feb 14, 2012 6:22 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't wanna talk about this anymore

ugh

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 6:24 AM MST up reply actions  

V-Day is so dumb

but this year….I am so excited. It’s going to be sooooooooooooooooooooo good.

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 6:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Because the Avs won’t be losing to the Flams by 350 goals

2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest

by chiavsfan on Feb 14, 2012 6:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Nah.

I’m really lucky I was on vacation this time last year and was too drunk to bother watching the game but I did get a very unhappy phone call from Cheryl afterwards. This year is all about dat Mass Effect 3, yo.

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 6:39 AM MST up reply actions  

Gaming love

2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest

by chiavsfan on Feb 14, 2012 6:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Why, is that something they’re likely to do?

At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?

by SteveHouse on Feb 14, 2012 10:04 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

I mean, if they can get a "piece" for a low price.

No additional comment necessary, just take this out of context, please.

I mean, if they can get a "piece" for a low price. a la Winnik, I can see that they’d do it.

I just don’t see any action from the Avs to pick up 3rd or 4th liners. The problem the Avs have is a plethora of 3rd and 4th liners and a paucity of 1st and 2nd liners. Of the players listed by the MSM as “on the market,” there are very few that would be a significant upgrade to our top-6, and all are overpriced.

One of the pains of the loser point is that it keeps more teams in the running at the trade deadline. As many as 11 teams are still in it in the East, and 12 in the West; 23 teams picking over the scraps of the remaining 7. There aren’t enough sellers in the market, and you have to be almost talent free to be out of the playoff running at the end of February..

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Feb 14, 2012 8:17 AM MST up reply actions  

with duchene back soon, the likihood of any moves FOR a player of any significance is zero imo. they may move a couple guys for picks/prospects, that’s it. FA market will make or break team next year for sure.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 1:40 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t even want them to trade for anyone.
Perhaps this is a little selfish on VD and all, but I’m not in the giving mood.
We don’t have the prospects to give. We don’t have the picks to give, and any talent the organ-i-zation does have is busy playing every night. I’d rather we wait until FA when the only thing we have to give is money.

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by Dixomatic on Feb 14, 2012 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

no question. If they could get a 2nd for SOB and say a nice prosect like Saad for SOB/Jones I would do that and re-sign SOB in FA market.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 3:06 PM MST up reply actions  

That type of thing is so rare. If we trade SOB the chances of him wanting to come back will be very, very small.

by stpn47 on Feb 14, 2012 3:07 PM MST up reply actions  

money talks and we still have to re-sign him either way and he hits the FA market anyway

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 3:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Crazy Eklund mentioned the Avs as looking into Kubina. That doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense, less one or two of our current D gets traded too.

Yes, yes, it’s Eklund, but speculation is more fun than boredom. Kubina and EJ both shoot right, else that’d be an interesting pairing.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 14, 2012 8:07 AM MST reply actions  

Wouldn't make any sense at all 0_o

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 8:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Oilers gave Sutton an extension. Disgusting.

by stpn47 on Feb 14, 2012 10:06 AM MST reply actions  

So perfect

Just days after I said Steve Tambellini was the Oilers biggest demon he goes and re-signs Andy Sutton. I’m still dying laughing about it

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 10:12 AM MST up reply actions  

The mini-melt downs by Oilers fans on twitter are my entertainment sustainment.

with the news that Lowe (now Team Pres) turned down Corey Perry + #1 for Mike Comrie because he wanted Anaheim to kick in $2.5M the Lowe-Tambellini duo is turning into this generations Mike Milbury.

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 14, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I remember a couple years back when I tagged Sutton as a guy we should sign.

oops.

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 14, 2012 10:59 AM MST up reply actions  

everyone makes mistakes…

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

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by Americanario on Feb 14, 2012 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

That’s two then, Sutton, and the Wings fandom

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by chiavsfan on Feb 14, 2012 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

He was a real warrior with NYI

Since then he’s turned into kind of a clown

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Not too happy he’ll be getting out of his clown car six times a year against the Avs, though. He’s a concussion dispenser.

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by Dixomatic on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM MST up reply actions  

owe (now Team Pres) turned down Corey Perry + #1 for Mike Comrie

In hindsight, that is bleeding hilarious.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 14, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Well,

That just makes it that much easier to completely despise the Oilers next year.

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by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 11:34 AM MST up reply actions  

For those who want to watch the Standings...

Dallas @ Detroit: Go Meteor!
Anaheim @ The Adjectives: I’m hesitant either way because Anaheim is climbing real fast, but go Anaheim
Chicago @ Nashville: Go Nashville, Chicago is falling real hard, keep fallin baby
Toronto @ Calgary: Go Toronto (and Lupul for my Pay league)

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by ProfessorOak on Feb 14, 2012 10:53 AM MST reply actions  

I’m finally at the point where: We need Dallas to lose in regulation. I am not rooting for that other team to win, but I am rooting for Dallas to lose. There’s a difference

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 14, 2012 10:58 AM MST up reply actions  

detoilet’s probably going to the playoffs anyway, so we root for the teams they play to lose so that the Avs can beat the evil empire in the 1st round.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 14, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

it’s almost impossible that they miss the playoffs, at least realistically speaking.

"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo

by ProfessorOak on Feb 14, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Can’t say them having the home win streak* is something I like, though.

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by Dixomatic on Feb 14, 2012 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Okay, I don't know if this was on purpose or not,

but I clicked that link and got at “Google Chrome could not find Nash Available” message.

And so the mighty Google speaks. Nash won’t be traded this year.

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by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 11:36 AM MST up reply actions  

It's been a rough couple of days

here’s to the Avs taking down Vancouver tomorrow!

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by ProfessorOak on Feb 14, 2012 1:01 PM MST reply actions  

Nostrabreezy is correct

Now even EJ himself says he’s better when he plays phyisical and with a litttle mean streak, as does Sacco. What has Nostrabreezy been telling you all year? When he plays like he has a set he’s an effective player. Case closed.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 1:32 PM MST reply actions  

You were saying that he needed to check people Wilson style as opposed to just being aggressive. He doesn’t lay people out, it’s not his style, so nostrabreezy still wasn’t correct.

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by ProfessorOak on Feb 14, 2012 1:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I said play nasty, I’m correct. You saw the difference against St Louis. He hammers peeps and he is hard to play against. He doesn’t have to KO guys, just use his size and fuck people up in corners and in front of net.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

See, your diction confuses me, to me, fucking people up is a Scott Stevens hit as is hammering people, I see what he did last night as just being aggressive.

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by ProfessorOak on Feb 14, 2012 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

dirt nasty, that’s it. make people know you are there and that you come in my area, you’re going to get it.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

fair enough, due to miscommunication, you still don’t get a point :P

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by ProfessorOak on Feb 14, 2012 1:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Man

You say a defenseman who plays with a chip on his shoulder is more effective than an apathetic one? Fucking genius on our hands

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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Playing with a hockey stick is more efficient then playing without one. Book it!

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 14, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

at least he didn’t tell us you can’t score if you don’t shoot

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 14, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Tell that to Koci’s ass. It never took a shot, yet it scored a real goal.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Feb 14, 2012 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

As has Hejda’s thigh.

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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 14, 2012 5:10 PM MST up reply actions  

As has Weiss’s hand.

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by Randy Time on Feb 14, 2012 6:38 PM MST up reply actions  

no, I said he hasn’t done that and when he does he’s much better. When I said that, everybody said “that’s not his game” meaning he plays like rafalski. now say I’m right!

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Random trade musings

Would you offer Duchene for Nash?

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 14, 2012 2:04 PM MST reply actions  

No sir.

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 14, 2012 2:07 PM MST up reply actions  

No.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 14, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry, I guess I should expand that. I think Duchene will be our Nash. Our key player for the future. Point wise, Nash is much much better, but Duchene is only 21 (I think) and only getting better. Add to the fact that Duchene loves it here in Denver, and they are likely to ask for more then Duchene…

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 14, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions  

we were good with no sir

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 14, 2012 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

For the record, I’d say no as well, but I think it’s an interesting question because…

…Duchene isn’t progressing quite where he should be (IMO anyways). The Avs are set at center, and need a pure goal scorer.

again, contract & age make it a no for me, but I don’t think it’s entirely far-fetched.

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

actually, Duchene had more pts than Nash last year. Nash is more of a goal scorer and a wing vs center

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 2:26 PM MST up reply actions  

agreed only cause of salary though. Nash for Jones/Quincey/Hishon and a 2nd, done.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 2:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Nash for Jones/Quincey/Hishon and a 2nd, done.

Howson is laughing at us. Check out what the Kovi trade yielded, and then add some.

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 14, 2012 2:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Kovi- for him they got Bergfors (traded, has 1 goal this year), oduya (an ok d-man), patrice cormier (likely won’t do much in nhl) and a 1st. want to rethink?

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 2:29 PM MST up reply actions  

All that was for a guy whose contract was expiring at the end of the year. Nash is signed for a really long time. I’m sure you see the difference, right?

And your Jones/Quincey/Hishon/2nd proposal belongs on HFBoards, not here.

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Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 14, 2012 2:33 PM MST up reply actions  

What if he adds Yip?

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 14, 2012 2:34 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s a great point, but what’s it gonna take for us to get him back from Nashville?

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by DiD on Feb 14, 2012 2:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Crosby?

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

And a 3rd. Crosby and a 3rd for Yip.

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 14, 2012 2:48 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s just great! But how do we get Crosby…IF WE DON’T HAVE YIP? (Gotcha!)

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Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM MST up reply actions  

By figuring out what came first, the chicken or the egg.

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by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 3:09 PM MST up reply actions  

no, b/c they signed him (forever BTW) and had every intent to do so. They only did that trade with the idea they would sign him long term. RE Nash, his 7.? contract is a bunch so to me that limits their options some too. He’s a nice player but he has a huge contract.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 2:34 PM MST up reply actions  

no, b/c they signed him (forever BTW) and had every intent to do so

But the point is he was a UFA, which is what drove his price on the market, not whether they had intention of re-signing him.

You need to look at the trade at the time of the trade:

Very good prospect, #2 D man, Another good prospect and a #1, for a UFA with no guarantee of re-signing (remember Kovi only signed after hitting the open market and a ridiculous contract drama)

Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 14, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s a nice player but he has a huge contract.

Kovy has the same cap hit as Stastny does. From here to eternity, but so what? He is minus 9, so Dale Hunter might not want him, but the guy is a FREAKING STUD and is a bargain at that hit.

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Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 14, 2012 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree with you on Kovi. Nash is at 7.8M for SIX more years. That’s got to be top 4 contract money in NHL. That’s exactly why he won’t get as much as people here are saying. That would handicap (non floor hugging teams) a lot of teams.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM MST up reply actions  

we would be giving up a lot IMO. quincey is an UFA, jones had 27 goals last year, hishon a 1st rd pick and a 2nd.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions  

So a rental (not something Columbus needs at all), a guy with one good season, a prospect with concussion problems and a pick that really isn’t all that valuable.

Seriously if we were both GMs and you called me with this trade, I’d flat out hang up on you. Then I’d call you back just to hang up on you again.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Feb 14, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Quincey is an RFA. I know how many goals Jones scored last season, and I know what round Hishon was drafted in.

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Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 14, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

oops, meant RFA on quincey. but you are right. How’s this, Duchene, Radar and a 1st in 2013, 2014 , 2015? that his value. You guys are stoned. he had 66 pts last year and mostly has scored in 30-35 goal range. he makes 7.8M I believe too.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 2:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Pitch your original trade on HFBoards. Lambert might pick it and make fun of you in a future “What We Learned” spot.

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Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 14, 2012 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

when and if he does get traded you will see. He’s not going to get the king’s ransom you think, guaranteed.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

I bet Columbus gets a top prospect, an NHL d-man a real goalie (Bernier, Schneider, Raask, somone along those lines) and a #1.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Feb 14, 2012 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

yep, Hishon, Quincey, Giggy and a 1st in 2013

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

A good young goalie. They are rebuilding.

And I think you’re overvaluing Hishon, maybe if he didn’t have concussion problems.

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Feb 14, 2012 3:09 PM MST up reply actions  

you’re right , we have no chance. Let’s just hope for kostitsyn in FA market. I think with our youngs guys getter 25% better each year and with Barrie we are primed for a cup run. I would say same for Parise and Suter, no chance. BUT, another guy like kobasew or lindy may help the 3rd line.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 3:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I put the chances of Nash moving before the deadline at roughly 10%.

He has a NMC, which he’s agreed to waive (according to reports), but it also means that he can put the kaibosh on the deal that sends him to Edmonton or Phoenix Quebec City or suchlike.

Combine that with the ungodly cap hit for the next decade and the return expectations on the part of CBJ that this trade will redeem their entire franchise and the fact that more than one GM’s sides still hurt from laughing at the Avs after the last CBA and I just don’t see it happening.

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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 14, 2012 5:18 PM MST up reply actions  

nash last 6 year goal totals:

31, 27, 38, 40, 33, 32, very good for sure but not astounding.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM MST up reply actions  

He plays wing, but who has been his center? Has he ever had a set-up man the caliber of Stastny? They got Carter for him this year, but Carter is a scorer, not a set-up guy. Nash and Stastny together would be intimidating to say the least.

OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd

by Busted Twigg on Feb 14, 2012 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

ditto for stewart in st louis.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I’d make that trade on the Avs’ side, yes. In a Valentine’s Day heartbeat. Trading winger for winger, one with really good size and the proven ability to score. Not at all scared of his minus 22, although that probably rules out the Nash for Ovechkin trade Friedman was asking about.

Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 14, 2012 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

You don’t think Duchene has the potential to be better then Nash?

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 14, 2012 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

The potential? Sure, I guess, maybe, who knows? But right now I’ll go with the guy who’s actually done it and who is signed for the long term. I don’t have too much confidence in the direction Duchene is heading at the moment.

Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 14, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Don’t like his direction? Once you see all the perfect fishing spots he has lined up for this offseason (Won’t it get here already?) you’ll change your mind about Duchene’s direction. Half of them are along Brad Paisley tour routes, which is like two birds with one stone. I’d like to see Nash multitask like that.

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by Dixomatic on Feb 14, 2012 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Eklund (lol) is reporting Nash to the Kings for Bernier, Hunter, Penner, and a pick. Any thoughts on that value?

by stpn47 on Feb 14, 2012 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

NO WAY! It would take Kopitar, Richards, Doughty and 2 1sts, minimum.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 2:47 PM MST up reply actions  

sometimes I really wonder if Eklund actually runs HF boards and just chooses his favorite proposals and runs with them.

by stpn47 on Feb 14, 2012 3:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Actually, yes. People have found him taking rumors off of HF Boards

Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Feb 14, 2012 3:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Yet up above, you said it would only take Jones, Quincey, and Hishon, and a 2nd from the Avs….I beg of you to step away from the paint. I think you’re doing permanent damage to your brain. Also, for your safety, I really hope all counter top corners in your residence have padding on them.

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by Randy Time on Feb 14, 2012 6:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Breezy has become a strange combo of HF boards and Burgundy Rainbow

I hear that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good

by patrit19 on Feb 14, 2012 6:51 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I think his posts are on a different level. They’re aneurysm inducing. I treat them with the same level of disgust as I would if someone on here created a “Todd Bertuzzi” account and posted Red Wings love with it.

The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.

by Randy Time on Feb 14, 2012 7:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Ouch. That’s a lot of hate.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 11:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I should clarify.

This is only when he’s discussing his perceived value of players and making HFboards quality trade proposals.

Other posts by him I really have no problem with.

The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.

by Randy Time on Feb 15, 2012 1:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Excuse me, Randy, I speak breezy.

Although I’m not fluent, I believe breezy was being sarcastic with the Kings offer, because of the derision he received from his proposed Avs offer. His words, literally translated, mean:

You have mocked me because of my paltry proposal, so now I shall go in the complete other direction and show you a scenario where the Kings overpay mightily for Rick Nash.

At least that’s how I read it.

Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things

by DiD on Feb 14, 2012 7:26 PM MST up reply actions  

This guy is always cheating defensively. Pavel Bure is in awe.

by Ilkinio on Feb 15, 2012 4:31 AM MST up reply actions  

Former Avs (kinda) news… Boston signs Johnny Boychuk to a 3-year contract extension. 3.36 million cap hit.

by stpn47 on Feb 14, 2012 2:45 PM MST reply actions  

well, at least we still have Hendricks

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 14, 2012 2:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Another mediocre defenseman gets a huge payday. Not good news for the Avs’ checkbook.

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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.

by Dixomatic on Feb 14, 2012 3:12 PM MST up reply actions  

guance and barrie are on the cheap though. Plus, Gaunce is really a top 4-5 d-man already, we are just so deep on d he can’t make it up to the show.

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 3:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Really not sure where your hatred of Gaunce comes from… last year he looked a lot better than some of our other defensemen before (stop me if you’ve heard this one before) he got hurt and was out for the season.

by stpn47 on Feb 14, 2012 3:22 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t hate him but he’s not that good. hope he proves me wrong. You know how many times we hype our minor league guys and nothing comes of it? Stoa? Why is he never mentioned as trade bait? Even people here say elliot/barrie? just sayin

by the cool breeze on Feb 14, 2012 3:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Gaunce, Barrie, and Elliott have all given us good reasons to have high hopes for them in the future, and none of them have really done anything to make us question those hopes. Stoa on the other hand… the Avs have given him plenty of opportunities and he’s just let us down every time.

by stpn47 on Feb 14, 2012 3:32 PM MST up reply actions  

The DUKE!!!!!

Happy Birthday!

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by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 3:10 PM MST up reply actions  

also, Mrs DDC

DDC is deeply embedded throughout this blog. For better or worse, his taint taints us all.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 14, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

and Drew Bledsoe

DDC is deeply embedded throughout this blog. For better or worse, his taint taints us all.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 14, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

The one piece of NFL merchandise I own is a Bledsoe jersey. My storage unit someplace in Georgia will treasure it always.

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 14, 2012 3:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Ruutu off the trade market

Per Dreger

Because of interst in re-signing him and now injury. Tuomo Ruutu is no longer a trade option.

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by ProfessorOak on Feb 14, 2012 4:55 PM MST reply actions  

QUICK!

I want to watch a game on my Gamecenter… which Avs game do I watch???

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 14, 2012 5:33 PM MST reply actions  

First person to say “a Wild game” gets their house burnt down…

Go Avs.
Go Blues.

by Tony Trujillo on Feb 14, 2012 5:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Playoffs. 2008. Minnes…
Just kidding.
2001 playoffs are always entertaining

I hear that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good

by patrit19 on Feb 14, 2012 5:50 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Last year vs. edm, Adam Foote’s last game.

"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo

by ProfessorOak on Feb 14, 2012 6:01 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

PAy close attention to Foote’s last shift….CLASSIC!

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Feb 14, 2012 6:42 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

As soon as Sunnyside starts giggling uncontrollably, start watching…………
“He knocked him down!”

I hear that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good

by patrit19 on Feb 14, 2012 6:46 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

You’d have to find my house first….

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.

by Americanario on Feb 14, 2012 6:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Silly, adobe doesn’t burn!

2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 14, 2012 7:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I’d say watch something old with Foppa if you have the Vault option. I know I’m going to watch that one Panthers game that he won by himself tonight.

Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.

by andidee15 on Feb 14, 2012 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Now THIS is parenting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU

"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo

by ProfessorOak on Feb 14, 2012 8:05 PM MST reply actions  

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