Avalanche at Oilers Preview of Dread
by Brett Shumway on Feb 17, 2012 7:00 AM MST
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The Avs continue their 3-game Canadian road trip of terror in Edmonton tonight taking on the 2nd to last place Oilers. The Avalanche have been playing fairly well of late, but not getting the results they need to get a skate in the playoff door. Both Erik Johnson and Semyon Varlamov (1-3-0 vs Oilers) are coming off strong performances Tuesday night. Johnson in particular has been a beast the past few games and is taking the sting out of the departure of Chris GD Stewart (the "GD" now stands for "goal decline").
With only 24 games remaining, the Avs need to steal 35 out of a possible 48 points to reach the coveted 95-point playoff (somewhat) safety zone. That means they need to play better than they have all season - and actually WIN the games as well. Unfortunately, last night's NHL games went about as badly as possible with Minnesota, Phoenix, Dallas and Calgary all getting points. Seriously hating the loser points right now. The Flames and Wild were both recipients of a loser point, while Phoenix won outright, and Dallas beat Calgary in OT - that game was a double whammy of 3-point suckage. What all that chaos means is that Avs fell 5 points behind 8th place LA and slid to 11th in the West.
Colorado is 3-5-2 in their last ten. In those three wins against the lowly Hurricanes, free-falling Blackhawks, and under-performing Kings, the Avs combined for 12 goals (4 GPG). In the 7 losses, they scored just 11 times (1.57 GPG). So it seems the recipe for success is easy: score. But with Galiardi shelved with a shoulder ouchie, and Mueller and Duchene still teasing us with their likely returns, that scoring may prove to be elusive - unless recent call up Mark Olver has some amazing (hat) tricks up his sleeves. Duchene and Olver showed some chemistry together last season so here's hoping they can reignite some of that mild magic when they do find themselves back in the lineup. Olver has 9 points in 15 games this season with the Monsters for anyone who cares.
The Avs also made a few other roster moves, bringing up the recently healed Cedric Desjardins (8-5-1, 1.85GA, .941save%) to replace the more recently injured JS Giguere in net on the bench, and sending Tyson Barrie back to the AHL for more seasoning. The Avs are still very much in the hunt for the post season, but it does seem like they are kicking the tires on some of their players, perhaps evaluating/showcasing what they have and what they could move, or make moves for, in anticipation of the impending (and perennially underwhelming) trade deadline.
The Avs will finish up the road trip on Sunday in Winnipeg. Go Avs!
This preview depressed the hell outta me. TGIFUCKINGF.
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Another division game…sign
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Hawks had a crazy first period yesterday, eh?
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 7:23 AM MST up reply actions
Thank you Marty Biron, and the Rangers D for not getting back on anything
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Yeah, there were more breakaways in that first period than I think I’ve seen in a solid two months.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 7:38 AM MST up reply actions
The Oil give up an average of 2.95 goals per game. The Avs score an average 2.41 goals per game.
Avs with 2.41 goals per game are 23rd in the league and keeping some pretty shitty company. They are extremely responsible with the puck and are among the lead leaders in fewest give-aways. The team needs to let loose and score some freaking goals.
I'll keep this brief.
Oh, and you will never guess what the Avalanche are last in. Never.
Total powerplay time = 267:55. Dead last. Closests competitor is Washington with 278 minutes. Most PP time in the NHL are the Flyers with 408.
I'll keep this brief.
That’s quite the difference. Anybody care to speculate how a team’s play can generate so much more PP time?
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 7:33 AM MST up reply actions
Duchene.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Seriously man…I want Duchene back as much as the next guy, but I still don’t think he is going to solve next to any of the problems this team has on offense right now. Well not as much as you do anyway
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I will say this again, his presence on the ice gets the other tearm’s defense running around. When they run around, they get out of position, and take penalties.
His speed and skill also creates mismatches and sometimes overly-tired defensemen. They also take penalties then on his shift or another one.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Which only helps when the Avs can actually score on the power play.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 7:49 AM MST up reply actions
Didn’t Duchene and Mueller find some Duchene and Flash – like chemistry when Mueller first got traded to CO? Duchene himself might not be the answer, but if he and Mueller can find that magic again, it will go a long way towards improving the offense.
No soup for you!
Yep, he centered Mules and Hejduk.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:18 PM MST up reply actions
Ah, well there is that – just being a better team. So dead last then? Woot
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 7:36 AM MST up reply actions
Not diving?
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 17, 2012 1:38 PM MST up reply actions
it’s how we play offense this year. Yet another consequence of the unskilled grinder mentality.
how do you draw penalties? in most cases, you put the defender in a spot where they are giving up a high percentage scoring chance, higher than the chance a penalty will score (~20%). The Avs don’t do that this year. They take every shot possible, they rarely develop possession and work for a good shot. We are content with firing off 50 marginal 3-5% chance of going in shots instead of 35 really good 5-10% chance shots.
Everyone looking at advanced stats expresses mystification at the Avs lack of success. I don’t. They take lots of bad shots, that’s it. In ‘09, when we were ripped for a bad Corsi constantly, we took much better shots consistently, and even when we didn’t we were developing good plays down low. A very similar roster was 13th in total PP time, and it was a tight bunch at the top, we were only 33 min less than the leading team, ~6% off the lead. This year we’re ~35% off the lead. crazy.
As an aside, I wonder if an odd lag measure for shot quality and “play development” might be PP time.
So the only guy who did try to develop plays? Duchene. Duchene has the speed, quickness, strength, and skills to do that, and he might be the only guy on the team that can. A lot of people in Avsfanlandia are very down on Duchene for “puck-hogging” and turning over the puck without getting shots, but I honestly applaud him for it. He’s working to get higher quality shots. yes, he turns the puck over more than Stastny or O’Reilly, but he’s also drawing penalties and getting those chance on top of the better quality shots he generates.
Duchene needs players with him that can do the things he can’t — dig the puck out of corners, chiefly, and that understand how to get open when he’s on the puck. Mueller and Hejduk were great at that. Jones, Galiardi, Stastny and all the other bad fits with him, they’re not.
He also needs a coach that can tell him about the deficiencies in his game and help him fix it. He needs instruction on defense, and how to play without the puck on offense. After watching him regress in both areas this year, I question if he’s getting that instruction. He also needs someone to teach him to trust his linemates, to back off on that balls-out offensive game when his linemates can’t play it with him.
by thedoctor on Feb 17, 2012 10:22 AM MST up reply actions 6 recs
Yup, nice post. Thanks Doc
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
Most guys take
Wow that’s long.as a compliment and run with it.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 10:42 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
i would prefer to hear that my posts are girth-y.
by thedoctor on Feb 17, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
How does that explain the Washington Capitals? Even with their malaise the past two seasons, they led the league in goals 3 years ago but were 23rd in the league in power play time.
Colorado was 6th in the league in scoring that year, but were 13th in PP time.
The stuff about what Duchene’s coaches do or don’t do is just speculation.
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Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
I don’t watch the Caps a lot, I couldn’t tell you. I’m sure there’s a good reason related to their play style, but I really don’t know. Far be it from me to try and boil the game down to one stat. If there’s one thing that I hate about the advanced stats heads, it’s the way they try to view the game through a single lens. It’s a laudable goal to create a good enough lens you can do that, but imo it’s pretty clear to anyone looking that Corsi is not enough to be that ambrosia stat.
It is some speculation, but it’s not unfounded. Duchene hasn’t grown in areas that are clear areas to coach him on. He’s either not listening to, unable to act on, or not getting instruction. I don’t think I’d pick Duchene as a guy that’s either not able to act on or won’t listen to instruction. He may not be the most mature guy, but the guy lives hockey and wants to improve badly.
and by that same token, your repeated assertion that Sacco is a good coach is just as much speculation. Neither of us can do anything but infer from the on-ice product what kind of coaching he’s doing.
The assertion that he’s a good coach is based on the fact that he’s taken sub-standard, inexperienced talent and has reached the playoffs one season and is in the hunt this year.
About Duchene, why is he regressing (or stagnating) but O’Reilly improving? I mean, that’s the biggest thing with Duchene. He’s got the direct comparison to O’Reilly, who has been outplaying him from the word go this year. It’s not unfounded to speculate that the Avs have more of a vested interest in developing Duchene than O’Reilly, because of his upside. So it’s not unfounded to speculate that Duchene and O’Reilly have received at least the same amount of attention and coaching from the coaching staff.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
The assertion that he’s a good coach is based on the fact that he’s taken sub-standard, inexperienced talent and has reached the playoffs one season and is in the hunt this year.
That’s your opinion. I disagree, the talent is there. It’s inexperienced, yes, but that doesn’t make it substandard.
As far as O’Reilly vs. Duchene, tough to say. I agree they’ve gotten similar attention at least. I can speculate the same as you — is it because Duchene isn’t getting it? Maybe. Is the coaching staff not addressing the right issues for Duchene, and is for O’Reilly? Maybe. And so on.
Either way, the result is the same: if the coaches and Duchene aren’t progressing together for whatever reason, something has to change. this team cannot be successful if Duchene stagnates in his development. Either trade Duchene, or bring in new coaches.
I would guess you tend to blame Duchene for his lack of progress. I would put the onus about equal on both parties. Coaches need to find a way to communicate effectively, no matter how difficult it is to reach the player, and the player needs to find a way to improve, no matter how ineffective the coaching is.
You credit only Sacco for making the playoffs and being in contention this year in the above quote. I think that’s the root of why we disagree on Sacco. Players and coaches are inextricably linked in terms of results. They both have contribution to both success and failures. We can’t credit Sacco for O’Reilly’s improvement without marking him down for Duchene’s stagnation. We can’t credit Sacco for making the playoffs in ’09 without blaming him for missing them horribly last year.
Team results based evaluations like this are such a problem when evaluation individual components, because you can twist it to your own viewpoint. It’s how Broduer gets called the best goalie ever. It’s how John Fox gets blamed for Carolina’s failures.
Instead of looking at how the Avs have done the last few years, I try to look for the specifics of how Sacco is doing his job — schemes, lines, etc. i think we disagree a lot because you tend to put what I consider schematic issues as player talent issues.
I’m totally derailed now. my point wasn’t to call Sacco a bad coach because of Duchene. The way the team has gone to a total fling everything at the net mentality, that I tend to put more on coaching. that our few good chances aren’t going in, that’s on the players/front office for not having finishing skill.
by thedoctor on Feb 17, 2012 12:04 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
To be honest, I hate using the injury excuse, but last year was just horrible. You can however, see how Sacco let the attitude of the team suffer, but none of us expected, with all of the injuries that the Avs suffered, that they could have have even finished respectably last year. Sacco didn’t do a good job adjusting to all of the injuries, but really, what was he to do? I wish he could have had a semi healthy season last year to more accurately assess him.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:14 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t think there’s any question it was a contributing factor to our collapse. Sacco’s not the worst coach, he’s not the best. He’s right about in the middle imo.
He might be the easiest and cheapest way to attempt improvement though. And there’s always the fact that, for whatever reason, in hockey messages get stale and new coaching blood brings improvement often. If we miss the playoffs, he’s probably the the fall guy.
They score 5 on 5 because they have lots of talent and maybe the PP scoring % is more important than the pure number of attempts with them
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
All right that's it.
I’ve gotten convinced that we aren’t scoring because we don’t have goal scorers, not because of some subjective measure of shot quality. Your post here has officially driven me to math. Tomorrow I’ll compare the last few years, who’s taking the shots, what’s their shooting percentages (remember shooting percentage is considered fairly stable but I have an off season project idea to test that too). I expect to find most of the shots are coming from sub-8% shooters. We’ll see, but I’ve been thinking about doing this for quite some time.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 10:52 AM MST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
seek the truth!
but I will note shot percentage doesn’t really mean shot quality, and that’s the trouble with quantifying it that has so many people convinced it doesn’t exist. shot quality has many components:
speed of the shot
where did it come from on the ice (shot position)
placement of the shot (where is it aimed at)
when did it come (rebound? goalie square? screened?)
and so on. shot percentage doesn’t really give a clear look at shot quality imo.
I never said it would assess shot quality directly. My theory has nothing to do with the shots themselves…it’s the shooters.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 11:15 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Dudes, you guys are over-analyzing it. We just don’t have finishers. The same shots Statsny misses Corey Perry buries, same with Iginla, Ryan, etc. I think in last 3 games alone we have have like 10 2 on 1’s where we don’ score (and it seems like Winnik and Subaru are always on them!). The 2 best shooters we have I think are Jones and Duke, that’s also why they tend(ed) to score goals (until this year!). That’s all you need to know!
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
if i responded
to this comment, trolling would
ensue. so haiku.
by thedoctor on Feb 17, 2012 12:07 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
I think that’s the best haiku you’ve ever written. bravo.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 17, 2012 1:57 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Ok
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 12:30 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
There’s a load of bloggers who are counting scoring chances this year for other teams. (mc79hockey does it for the oilers, probably about 1/2 the teams) and comparing it to total shots. I agree with you that shooting % doesn’t give a great view of shot quality, and there’s work being done to correct that.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
The coach doesn’t play the game, jeez!
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+1
What u want him to do, lace em up and shoot and score.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:40 AM MST up reply actions
He wasn’t exactly the shoot and score type when he did lace them up. He was a grinder.
OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd
by Busted Twigg on Feb 17, 2012 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
I really disagree with a lot of what you said, but I disagree most with this statement:
The Avs don’t do that this year. They take every shot possible, they rarely develop possession and work for a good shot. We are content with firing off 50 marginal 3-5% chance of going in shots instead of 35 really good 5-10% chance shots.
I thought we put this issue to bed but apparently not. I was counting the Avs scoring chances, in relation to their shots. I never finished the project, so the sample size is still admittedly small, but the Avs were getting the same number of legitimate scoring chances per game, and their chance/shot ratio is in line with the the league average. Again, small sample size, maybe I’ve just counted the games where they happen to have good chances, but I kinda doubt it. I guess it’s time to finish off the project though since this is still popping up. (and when I get a chance I will put all the data into a google doc and you can go over it if you’d like. Warning, it’s terribly time consuming)
Now the Avs are not finishing those chances for whatever reason. Lack of finishing ability is probably some of it. Bad luck is also probably part. But they are getting scoring chances. Legitimate ones, and the idea they are only settling for low percentage shots from the outside is, IMO, a complete byproduct of confirmation bias.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
also the fact that every goalie we face channels his inner Roy. I would be very interested in seeing this document as well.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
as your analysis includes subjective analysis of what is a chance and what isn’t, I have a hard time with it. confirmation bias and all, you know. not to mention the silliness of arbitrary imposition of some binary scale on shot quality into this thing we call chances. I’ve always hated “chances” for that reason.
We need a real shot quality measurement, then we could answer this question. Subjective, binary chances aren’t it.
I hope that this at least puts to bed the insinuations that I was trying to my some sort of homer about the Avs, back when I claimed we had higher shot quality in ‘09-’10. I’m just calling it like I see it, good or bad for the Avs. My only assertion/bias is that shot quality is a real thing, we just can’t measure it properly. One day!
by thedoctor on Feb 17, 2012 12:21 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s the sketchy thing about a lot of the stats taken, they are subjective. Look at takeaways for example. Go to nhl.com and see how many Islanders are in the top twenty. I think it’s 4 or 5, which is ridiculous. Tavares, Grabner, Bailey and someone else, maybe Parenteau. Apparently intercepting a pass is a takeaway on the island.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
as your analysis includes subjective analysis of what is a chance and what isn’t, I have a hard time with it.
Of course, there’s subjectiveness there, but that doesn’t mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater. I don’t throw your viewpoint out, and it’s entirely based on subjectiveness.
But it’s coming closer. It’s narrowing it down, perfect, no. But that’s how analysis breakthroughs work. You start with a very braod and flawed statistic (let’s say Points and PPG). Then you move onto a better one (Corsi) then a better one (ES Corsi). then a better one (Scoring chances). They all have margins of error, but they tend to converge as those margins get smaller and smaller as people get better. There’s very rarely a mgic breakthrough, but a lot of small incremental steps.
I guess that’s probably my biggest complaint about people who complain about the subjectivity of stats, is that their opinions are entirely subjective.
I mean, I’m not just looking at numbers on a page here. I’m watching replays. I’m becoming an expert. There have been games where I’ve felt the same way you did, that the Avs didn’t get many chances, but then went back and looked at the replays and determined, it just felt like they didn’t get chances. I trust my judgement in a second viewing a lot more than the first. The first time I view a game I’m emotionally involved, the second time I’m looking at it a lot more objectively.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
the idea they are only settling for low percentage shots from the outside is, IMO, a complete byproduct of confirmation bias.
I don’t throw your viewpoint out, and it’s entirely based on subjectiveness.
O RLY. :)
But I agree on the push towards better an better stats. I disagree that chances are better than Corsi in any way. Stats should NEVER have subjectively on the number side. Corsi, at least, doesn’t have any ambiguity on the numbers themselves. chances? it’s in the eye of some beholder.
that your raw data has subjectivity makes it impossible to draw objective conclusions from the data. as good analysis should always strive towards objective conclusion and that’s inherently impossible with your data, I have a hard time with your project. Not only is your reason for the project biased towards proving some pre-assumed goal that shot quality is insignificant, the raw data is deeply subjective.
I completely reject your assertion that chances are better than Corsi. It’s one step forward (attempting to add shot quality) but 10 steps back (removes objective raw data with which to draw conclusions).
I disagree with you. There’s subjectivity in Corsi, and shots.
that your raw data has subjectivity makes it impossible to draw objective conclusions from the data. as good analysis should always strive towards objective conclusion and that’s inherently impossible with your data
I don’t think this is true. If it was true yyou couldn’t draw any conclusions in social science statistics, like psychology, sociology, etc. The subjectivity makes it hard, but you can get it out. By taking a lot of data.
If one night I watch 10 games and am more generous than the next night then the data will be skewed. But over 50 nights, it will average to a general definition of scoring chance. OVer 100 bloggers there will be a pretty good consensus.
There’s a ton of scientific fields that use large quantities of inherently subjective analysis. there are ways to correct for subjectivity
Not only is your reason for the project biased towards proving some pre-assumed goal that shot quality is insignificant, the raw data is deeply subjective.
Hey I have a hypothesis, and I’m trying to verify it through observation and data. That’s a scientific method.
I have admitted that I may have a bias though. And I’m more than willing to publish my data so that people can weed that out. (it needs some formatting before I can put it out there).
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions
If it was true yyou couldn’t draw any conclusions in social science statistics, like psychology, sociology, etc.
I don’t want to jump in this b/c I’m not willing to do the work needed for conclusiveness, but that sentence isn’t true. Good social science statistical analysis uses objective data, it would be an exception otherwise. Examples of objective data: years of school, commute times in traffic, cost of medical care, standardized test scores, reported census data, income levels, taxes paid, etc. etc. If you do use objective data, you need a much larger sample size.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
I’d take standardized test scores out of objective data since they don’t actually measure anything.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
Well, they’re a way of “standardizing” performance.. so the intent anyway is objectivity.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 1:56 PM MST up reply actions
I guess I was heading into the anaylsis where they use stuff like “Does this make you feel strongly, kind of strongly, neutral, badly, very badly”. IT’s subjective, but it’s still possible to draw conclusions on stuff like that,
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, but it’s much harder to make strong conclusions from a survey like that. That sort of data is generally considered a last resort and the conclusions not given much weight.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
interesting article, thanks. just goes to show, even on something I would think would be a pretty iron clad criteria like THIS IS A SHOT ON GOAL can be twisted by bias. How much more for for something with such less defined criteria like chances?
but my distinction is indeed poorly stated — I should say corsi/shots are “more objective” rather than totally objective. Nothing in this world is, sadly.
I don’t think this is true. If it was true yyou couldn’t draw any conclusions in social science statistics, like psychology, sociology, etc. The subjectivity makes it hard, but you can get it out. By taking a lot of data.
If one night I watch 10 games and am more generous than the next night then the data will be skewed. But over 50 nights, it will average to a general definition of scoring chance. OVer 100 bloggers there will be a pretty good consensus.
There’s a ton of scientific fields that use large quantities of inherently subjective analysis. there are ways to correct for subjectivity
I think the difference is that those fields go to great lengths to remove bias from their raw data gathering. This isn’t. By using multiple trials, you merely remove the noise from your data, not a bias. By using multiple bloggers, you’re trying to average out everyone’s bias on the assumption it’ll all cancel out, which I’m very skeptical of the efficacy of that approach.
Hey I have a hypothesis, and I’m trying to verify it through observation and data. That’s a scientific method.
I have admitted that I may have a bias though. And I’m more than willing to publish my data so that people can weed that out. (it needs some formatting before I can put it out there).
and I’m peer reviewing it. :) If this was in a journal, I’d be saying these same things about flawed scientific methodology. If I was making a suggestion about how to remove more subjectiveness from this experiment, I’d have many suggestions:
You shouldn’t be doing the Avs. No evaluator should be doing the home team.
No evaluator should be doing the same team all the time. it should be random.
The criteria for chances needs to be better defined.
Each game should be checked multiple times by different evaluators.
I understand why that’s all hard, but that would certainly help. You could really show a measure of consistency with how tight the distributions of numbers on the same game are.
I actually do random games I’m trying to build a database. Obviously it takes a lot of work and time. (you need a base for comparison. Saying the Avs get a chance for every 1/3 shots means nothing without having a comparison).
I have a criteria I use. I watched a lot of goals, and came up with a criteria on what it is. Basically it’s almost any shot that happens in this zone 
and shots from outside there with traffic in front of the net. But I admit I use subjectivity too. A no look back-hander from the face-off circle with a guy draped all over him, I don’t count.
If this was in a journal, I’d be saying these same things about flawed scientific methodology.
Here’s my problem with this. You have no idea if my methodology is flawed. You haven’t reviewed it yet. There’s certainly concerns, and you’ve raised them (and I acknowledge those concerns), but you already seem to be dismissing it out of hand before reviewing it. That to me already indicates a bias against it.
You shouldn’t be doing the Avs. No evaluator should be doing the home team.
No evaluator should be doing the same team all the time. it should be random.
The criteria for chances needs to be better defined.
Each game should be checked multiple times by different evaluators.
I’ll admit, I’d love to get people together and do everything you’ve said there. It would be very hard, and time consuming. Personally I think NHL teams should do this, it seems like the cost of getting 10 interns to keep a running tally would be completely worth it in terms of the competitive advantage you’d get over other teams, but I don’t own my own hockey team yet so I can’t unleash an army of shot counters.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
When you ship comes in, can I be your team’s goalie coach?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
part time
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
With a mindset like that, you’re a perfect candidate for an Enos investment.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
Oh come now, I’m not dismissing your analysis. I just have problems with what I know of it. Please, publish all of it.
by thedoctor on Feb 17, 2012 2:28 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
that your raw data has subjectivity makes it impossible to draw objective conclusions from the data. as good analysis should always strive towards objective conclusion and that’s inherently impossible with your data, I have a hard time with your project. Not only is your reason for the project biased towards proving some pre-assumed goal that shot quality is insignificant, the raw data is deeply subjective.
Sorry, statements like that come across as pretty dismissive
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
I consider that a statement of fact. Your data, being more subjective, has less ability to draw objective conclusion in the ideal. No analysis is free of subjective influence, and I don’t consider all analysis invalid. I’m merely concerned that yours has a much higher degree of that issue. Like I say in that very quote, I have a hard time with with what I know.
I didn’t mean to get carried away on rhetoric, sorry. you’d never do something like that*, right? :) for the record, I don’t dismiss your work. I’m skeptical thus far, waiting for more.
* the idea they are only settling for low percentage shots from the outside is, IMO, a complete byproduct of confirmation bias.
That’s fair enough, It’s not like I’ve “published” anything solid yet (although there’s some on my archives) yet. I don’t want some 2nd-rate Spanish astronomer stealing my work as his own* so you have every right to be skeptical until I at least post it.
*kudos to anyone who gets this incredibly obscure joke
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
yes
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
what ever happened with that? i remember seeing some accusations, but that’s it…and as I’m asking i realize it’s easier to just ask the googles myself:
http://jameswight.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/did-spanish-astronomers-steal-planet/
tldr: seems likely, but the spanish guy’s story could be true.
I got Mike Brown’s account in his book (an excellent read, by the way)
Basically, Mike Brown had all the data and was analyzing it before he officially published it, and it was all from a telescope in Chile (I think). That data was being archived by a professer at tOSU and, in the early days in the internet, there were URL’s that kept the data wit no securit setting on it.
The spanish professor claimed he was tacking it himself, but access URLs traced back to the computer in his office. His story is plausible, but not likely.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
And it’s not ready. (And frankly I don’t know when it will be.to do it right is pretty time consuming, and I do have a 1-year old and other interests that occupy my time as well.Like reading, writing, and Arkham City).
I think if I “published” what I had you could probably draw some conclusions on what I define as a scoring chance, etc are, but the results aren’t there yet.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
We could all just start our own journal and publish it there. I’m thinking we could do one volume per lustrum. Just need a name for the journal.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 2:41 PM MST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure there’s huge monetary potential in an Academic Hockey Statistical Literature journal.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
As I gather my thoughts a little more, I guess where I’m going is this.:There’s subjectivity in pretty much every analysis. There’s subjectivity in engineering (in the professional world it’s called engineering judgement). There’s subjectivity in electrical engineering, mechanical, solar array, optical, environmental, software, systems and even your area of expertise image processing.
Subjectivity is there for two reasons, the first is because getting measurements, data, and everything necessary to eliminate it is cost prohibitive. Even in something incredibly precise, like building a satellite, has loads and loads of engineering judgement, subjectivity, involved in it. That doesn’t mean the analyses and engineering done in them is worthless.
The second is because sometimes judgements need to be made. There’s usually 3-4 ways to solve a problem but it takes judgement to try and identify which way is likely the best.
But to insinuate that data and analysis that has subjectivity embedded is almost to completely useless in coming to conclusions is a faulty line of logic, IMO.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
But aren’t these two different questions Jibs? There’s analysis, which should be objective and then there are conclusions based on said analysis, which will be judgement based (subjective).
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
It’s no always possible to do completely objective analysis. Take a typical stress analysis. How many nodes should you apply to your model? How many significant figures should you use for Youngs’ modulus, or sheer strength? How many layers of non-linearity should you apply? What temperature range should you use? Does it matter? Does the humidity matter? (I’m not a stress analyst so there’s probably more judgements that need to be made in a typical that I’m not even mentioning here.)
All those (and a lot more) are subjective judgements the analyst needs to make in order to go through the analysis. Some of them are limited by external factors, like computer memory size, but they are all subjectivity that are always present.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
Fair enough. Though, how you construct your analysis/model is one thing and the discreteness or inherent objectivity of the data is another.
In “social sciences”, what question you ask is often just as important as how well you put together your analysis. The bigger the question, the more assumptions you have to make. Smaller questions (or null hypothesis) invariably allow better models and stronger conclusions. Sometimes you have to ask the big questions and make a lot of assumptions along the way. That’s not to say it isn’t worth doing, but such conclusions should be judged accordingly.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
this may have been mentioned
haven’t read the whole thread yet, but…
Duchene needs players with him that can do the things he can’t — dig the puck out of corners, chiefly, and that understand how to get open when he’s on the puck.
Would Landy be good for that? Honest question. Would putting Duchene back to center on a line with Landy and Mueller work? I know that guts O’Reilly’s line….
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 17, 2012 1:49 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t think it’s been mentioned, and I think that anything should be tried. As much as it’s easy to fall in love with the O’Reilly/Landeskog duo, which I certainly have done, it shouldn’t be, by any means, assumed that those two should always play together.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
I think Landeskog would play well with two hamsters. The kid is instant wing chemistry.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
And we were 27th last year, with Washington 28th.
I think part of the reason that we don’t spend time on the PP is because we spend too much time on the PK. Hard to draw penalties when you’re shorthanded.
I don’t think that accounts for everything, but I do think it’s part of it. This season we’re last in PP minus PK time. We were 26th last year.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
I don’t ever like to compare the NHL to the NBA, but is it possible that lack of star power has something to do with it? For example, if David Jones goes on a rush and is tripped up, is he as likely to draw a call as Patrick Kane or Daniel Sedin or other known player? Total speculation, of course, but not out of the question.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
This, now, begs the question: why do the Avs take so many damn penalties? (Please leave your tin foil hats at home, ladies and gentlemen. This is another honest question.)
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 17, 2012 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
Cody Mac and Q
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
Gah, I think Gali caught Yip’s High Stick Disease.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 2:25 PM MST up reply actions
I posted this in another thread, but McLeod’s penalty minutes this year are nearly all due to fighting majors. If I remember correctly, he’s only taken 11 minor penalties all season.
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 17, 2012 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
then those 11 penalties tend to have a hell of an impact.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:11 PM MST up reply actions
Just from my observations and absolutely nothing to back it up with, I think Galliardi has taken the most inopportune penaltys most of the season.
Yeah...... I got nothin'
In front of Quincey the master of the stick infraction?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
You’re both right! Quincey leads defensemen, Gally leads forwards. Which is especially crappy for Gally since he’s 7th in total ice time among forwards.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20122COLSASALL&sort=minorPenalties&viewName=penalties
By the way, Quincey, any time your balls drop I wouldn’t mind seeing you get into a scrap every once in awhile. Just sayin’.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
looking over, you are correct (at least according to the game logs), be has also been assessed 2 major penalties outside of fighting (at least I believe)
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
One of those majors he deserved, the other was absolute bullshit. Some of those minors were bullshit too. I totally believe that “repeat offenders” are kept on a shorter leash for the most part and are called for the ticky tacky infractions that other players (say a Hejduk) wouldn’t. McLeod seems to be the victim of that situation more than a few times each season. (And I’m not saying he doesn’t take stupid inopportune penalties; I just don’t think – at least this year – it’s as bad as folks say.)
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
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The Hockey Writers - Avalanche Correspondent
by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 17, 2012 4:13 PM MST up reply actions
I do not have a good feeling about this game.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Hey hey hey…this is one division team we actually beat, one time, I think. It’s in the bag!
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Yeah, but of the four division opponents, you can count the teams we’ve beaten this season on one horribly-disfigured-by-a-snowblower hand.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
by Mike @ MHH on Feb 17, 2012 7:41 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
stop it!
“I have a feeling, that tonights goona be a good night, that tonights gonna be a good night”
"we cough to clear our throats and sigh to clear our hearts"
If they hadn’t played that song as Sakic walked into the Can, on the night his jersey was retired….I would hate it almost as much as “name redacted”. I am so sick of hearing that song.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
Only 35 points needed?
So basically we need to win every home game for 22 points and go 6-6-1 on the road. Tonight’s game is probably a must-win.
31 points actually. Win ever game at home and take 9 points on the road.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Where’s Budaj when you need him….
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 7:51 AM MST up reply actions
I don’t even care if they win that much really. Just score goals for once
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 7:52 AM MST via Android app reply actions
It’s sad to see you start lowering your standards with so many games left in the season.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
No shot at the playoffs without scoring coming on. You can’t expect your back end to give up 1 or 0 a night to still have a chance to win
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 8:08 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Sure you can. St. Louis does it all the time!!
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When your goalie has the lowest GAA in the league, it always gives you a chance. Wish we could get some of that Brian Elliott
"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin
Think it has more to do with their new Hitchcock, more than anything else.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 8:26 AM MST up reply actions
And it’s not just Elliott, Halak has come back to life as well
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I remember Ottawa fans laughing at us when we traded Andy for him. I think they would be as puzzled as us with his performance.
Halak’s play before Hitch was vindicating the Habs’ decision to keep Price and bin Halak.
"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin
Don’t think so. St. Louis gave up the 2nd-fewest shots on goal per game last season. This year they’ve given up the fewest. 18th in goals against last year. 1st in GA this year. Goalies. Period.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
for sure goalies are important but shot selection does matter. Not sure where say the wings are but a puck possession team that sets up quality scoring chances (vs say the avs limp wristers with no traffic from the side boards is different). That’s a beef with Sacco, you can’t score so what do most coaches try, crash the net, get traffic, score dirty goals. From what I’ve seen we haven’t adapted much. Duchene will make a big difference though because he makes the top 3 lines so much better, draws a penalty often, creates odd man rushes with his speed, etc. Plus, other teams just can’t shut down the 1st line. The word is out on Avs and has been since middle of last year. Take away their speed transition game and they can’t create thru forechecking and grinding out opportunities b/c they have so many finesse guys. One reason for the PP discrepency is that other teams get us pinned down for 3 minutes at a time in our end and eventually we hold somebody, etc.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
Let’s see…
Rehash shot quality argument then..
…Rehash Sacco isn’t a good coach/doesn’t adapt argument then…
…Rehash other teams have figured us out argument (goes to coaching again)…
…and then blatant speculation that is in no way supported by numbers. The Avs have been VERY good on possession numbers this year and your statement about 3-minute own-zone is a complete fabrication on its face.
Just another pre-game thread.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
just another z filled friday…..
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
O'Reilly works harder than you
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
What happened to the days we discussed video games, comics, beer/wine, and minigolf in the pre-game threads.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 5:17 PM MST up reply actions
I miss those days.
Let’s talk… video games.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 17, 2012 5:26 PM MST up reply actions
what about them shall we talk about?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 5:28 PM MST up reply actions
How they now assume you are stupid and make you do hours of “how to control your character” when every game is basically the exact same. GRUMBLE GRUMBLE
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 17, 2012 5:30 PM MST up reply actions
or even on that note, how every video game is now super easy as opposed to the days when it was hard as shit, like the legend of zelda, etc.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 5:36 PM MST up reply actions
I used to play Bugs Bunny’s Birthday Bash on Nintendo as a kid, I picked it up a few months ago… the timing is so slow that I suck at it now. :(
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 17, 2012 5:38 PM MST up reply actions
awwwwwww yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 5:44 PM MST up reply actions
I was six, I sucked at Mortal Kombat- Street Fighter I was all about. I played it for the first time in years when I was in Denver a few months ago. I had fun.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 17, 2012 5:44 PM MST up reply actions
On top of MK, Primal Rage was my game, so awesome, like MK but with beasts and animals and dinosaurs
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 5:44 PM MST up reply actions
i loved the x-men game on sega
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 5:46 PM MST up reply actions
Best Sega game… Shadowrun.
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
by Tony Trujillo on Feb 17, 2012 5:49 PM MST up reply actions
Battletoads. also fucking impossible
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 5:50 PM MST up reply actions
ActRaiser. SNES. One on the best games ever. You get to play a god. Soooo fun.
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
by Tony Trujillo on Feb 17, 2012 5:59 PM MST up reply actions
One of the hardest of all time. Spent many weekends renting it from the video store and playing for 2 straight days. Double Dragon was difficult to get all the way through.
My brother and I used to say that drowning in beer was like heaven, eh. Now he's not here and I got two soakers, this isn't heaven, this sucks.
Just reading the thread sipping ice tea in my limited edition 32 oz WoW cup. Anyone jealous?
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
by Tony Trujillo on Feb 17, 2012 5:29 PM MST up reply actions
why you heff be so mad? Well, when I watched the nucks game it might have been 5 minutes at a time!
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
What about the two minutes of offensive pressure the Avs had? Is that funny?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Agreed
Having said that, I’m not too disheartened. I think the Avs are playing pretty well at the moment in a lot of respects. Scoring isn’t one of them, but at least we’re not getting blown out 5-0, 7-2, that kind of thing. It is normally a one goal game.
"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin
A bigger jinx I have not read.
Oh holy whammy, forgive the heathen for his blasphemous sacrilege. He knows not what he does! Forgive the ignorant and uninitiated in your most glorious Name. Please My Whammy, be merciful!
In thy name, I offer my humble sacrifice..“Nikolai Khabibulin is amazing and underrated. There is no doubt, he WILL shut down the Avalanche offense”.
I'll keep this brief.
Bring on the 7-0 blowout by the Oil. That way I can get on with my life after the first period and not have to wait until six minutes left in the game to have my hopes crushed like the bottom pyramid cheerleader for a West Virginia high school cheer squad.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
So you want a game like Chicago-NYRags….4-0 after the first period and the game never really in doubt after that.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
Malachi, tell me a book to read. I just finished Explorers of the Nile.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
It amazes me how much I hated reading when I was a kid…now I can’t go anywhere without a book. Why does this happen?
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I’m still in the hate reading phase, hahaha
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 8:12 AM MST up reply actions
Any parameters? Easy/complex read? Genre?
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 8:25 AM MST up reply actions
Choose your own adventure.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I never died in those…I kept my finger on the page. It’s not an official death then
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Same here. For some reason all my CYOA characters had this kind of predictive precognition. Good times.
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I have no specific genre. Something obscure.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
While not terribly obscure, though it is out of print last I checked, have you read The Mouse that Roared by Leonard Wibberly? It’s a lighter read, but hilarious and yet politically poignant.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 8:34 AM MST up reply actions
I just finished World War Z by Max Brooks. I really enjoyed it.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 9:12 AM MST up reply actions
Based on the point of view of the book and narrative style of the book, I have a hard time figuring out how it’s going to translate well to film.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
agree
If hollywood can’t even turn a book tailor made for film into a good movie, is.s The Three Musketeers, I don’t see how they can turn one that isn’t tailor made to it.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
im not speaking in the abstract, the details out there about the movie are all about how it’s merely taking the title and some premise from the book at this point. ugh.
WWZ was meant for a show on HBO. each little chapter a show, man that would have been awesome.
Ahh, didn’t realize that. Yeah, a miniseries would be the best way to do the book.
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
Done It’s a pretty amazing website, really.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 8:30 AM MST up reply actions
My prediction
Avs are going to lose again, by one goal. This team really has just let me down, I need them to instill hope.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
My prediction
Avs are going to lose again, by two goals. Landeskog and O’Reilly out with injuries. One caused by Sutton.
"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin
My Prediction
5 point night (2G/3A) for Landeskog to tie RNH for 2nd in rookie scoring.
Avs win it in a 7-6 OT thriller.
I am boobs.
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by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Feb 17, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
Burgundy, what have we told you about hacking peoples accounts?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:17 PM MST up reply actions
ROW please
Cap Floor Team = Cap Floor Results
by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 17, 2012 8:19 AM MST reply actions
Such a simple word.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
by c6hor8 on Feb 17, 2012 8:24 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Has it been that long that you’ve forgotten? Regulation/Overtime Win. Good for the tiebreakers.
OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd
by Busted Twigg on Feb 17, 2012 9:05 AM MST up reply actions
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 8:40 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
So here’s hoping that today’s preview thread doesn’t go down hill as quickly as Wednesday’s! :-)
How many of you guys are wearing your jersey to work and/or school? The whole @MHH clan is, except for Baby who is wearing the shirt that is in my avatar.
Me!!! Son is said to be living in his Avs jersey at home. I’m sure the youngest will have his Hawks jersey on. No one else at my work is participating
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Nobody here is either, but I’m not surprised. At least they recognize that I’m wearing a hockey jersey, but they have no idea who the team is.
Our old receptionist used to join me in hockey jersey love…but she has moved on to a new station, and is a Red Wing fan.
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Our old receptionist used to join me in hockey jersey love…but she has moved on to a new station, and is a Red Wing fan
There are three things here and they don’t go together. I can’t quite put my finder on it…
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Out last 3 receptionists have been Red Wings fans. THe current one says she is a Hawks and Wing fan. SOOOOO many things wrong there
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What. The. Hell.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 8:42 AM MST up reply actions
DDC does it.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
But Chicago-Detroit is way more historic in terms of rivalry
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
There are only so many explanations. She could be a spy. Or an alien spy. Or have multiple personalities that constantly try to beat the living hell at of one another.
Wait! She must be Chelios’ great, great, great, great granddaughter. Has to be.
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
I did not conform. I am wearing a Monarchs T-shirt though
DDC is deeply embedded throughout this blog. For better or worse, his taint taints us all.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 17, 2012 8:38 AM MST up reply actions
???
Minions! Dr. Thaddeus Venture is currently engaged in seemingly fruitless display of fashion aptitude! His despicable attempt to abscond with my most apt, and, may I say, staggeringly flashy, logo is a cruel miscarriage of justice of the highest order! He must be brought to make restitutions! Seriously, I paid like 300 bucks to my cousin’s wife to design that for me.
Thanks, Joe... Thanks, Peter.... Thanks, Adam....
by mfured20 on Feb 17, 2012 10:26 AM MST up reply actions 5 recs
I got that as a xmas gift this year. It’s glorious.
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
What happened in Wednesday’s thread?
I have no jersey, but will be celebrating in my own quiet dignified way…..
Andyray ArlyleCay
Won’t name names though
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
yep, you are doing what you told me not to do, gosh, practice what you preach JP! hahaha
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
I try to keep unhealthy emotion out of my discussions on here. Usually, I think I do a good job of it. I haven’t been told otherwise, yet.
That being said, there are certain discussions which can only be saved from the inside of by Intervention From Above.
hahaha yep
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 9:39 AM MST up reply actions
“inside or by Intervention From Above”.
I hate the idea that my name might be associated with the distasteful discussions that crop up here.
Yeah, yeah. I’m on it, but don’t forget that whole helps those who helps themselves, so on and so forth.
Everything that ever was and ever shall be, I am.
by Jimmy Howard on Feb 17, 2012 9:44 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
sadly it just feeds it generally
Our Universe is so Humongous Big - Illya Bryzgalov
Don't worry be happy right now - Illya Bryzgalov
by Freakoffaleash on Feb 17, 2012 9:46 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I try to avoid chipping in until an objectively offensive line has been crossed. I looked back at the last few discussions and I’ve actually been pretty quiet in most of them.
That’s a relief. I’m true to my Canadian roots.
i have tried too though i have been dragged down by peoples hipocracy that i got pissed the other day
Our Universe is so Humongous Big - Illya Bryzgalov
Don't worry be happy right now - Illya Bryzgalov
by Freakoffaleash on Feb 17, 2012 9:59 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
It’s probably the lack of my stabilizing presence….
Y U so mad bro?
This team sucks! All is lost! Arg!
Yo mama homeslice!
Andyray ArlyleCay
Of course…is there any other way?
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Brail tatoos.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
If, Lewis Carroll
had been Japanese today
and he loved hockey
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 8:59 AM MST up reply actions
Hail, Jabberwocky
Nay, hail lawinengefahr
Yay! And slithy toves
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
by c6hor8 on Feb 17, 2012 9:03 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
How many of those
words are actually words?
refrigerator
Andyray ArlyleCay
by Paul X on Feb 17, 2012 9:05 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Stastny is pussy
Sacco sucks big monkey balls
No more winning, bitch
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Johnson is a bust
Landeskog can’t score at all
Neither can Mueller
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Hands, ribs, knees he eats
Torsos, brains, fingers and feet
Injury Bug eats
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 9:17 AM MST up reply actions
You should write children’s books
Andyray ArlyleCay
by Paul X on Feb 17, 2012 9:26 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
"Farble"?
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
warble
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
It totally is.
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
We have a new policy in place to address the issue…
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Let the “clique” handle it?
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
The new policy is that I’ll be a dick to trolls.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Oh, I thought you said new. Sorry….
Andyray ArlyleCay
by Paul X on Feb 17, 2012 9:34 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
I think you’re missing the point here. You said you were going to violate the new policy. Mike said he is the new policy…
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 9:35 AM MST up reply actions
Mine was just a crass suggestion of supplication?
YOU SAID YOU WOULD VIOLATE MIKE. THAT MEANS ‘SEX’.
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
I got a 36 on my Immature Sex Jokes Standardized Test.
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 9:45 AM MST up reply actions
I don’t know why they left the J out of the acronym though. They added an S in it’s place though. So it’s ok.
Andyray ArlyleCay
Probably will cost you the Scrabble title, though.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
No, no. ISJST is just the slang acronym for the ISSST. It’s properly spelled out as the Immature Sex Squibs Standardized Test.
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
I am in My Jones T-Shirt, Staz jersey and wearing my hat. I am full Avalanche colors today….now to see if it works.
by Avalanchefan86 on Feb 17, 2012 8:44 AM MST up reply actions
Similar, only I went three teams.
Avs jersey, Hawks polo, and then to support my AHL squad, the Chicago Wolves toque
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Yeah…if I supported another NHL team my wife would divorce me. She is a die-fucking-hard Avalanche fan. Nice though, always have someone to watch the games with. HAHA
by Avalanchefan86 on Feb 17, 2012 8:47 AM MST up reply actions
Hey, your wife wants to die fucking hard? Me too!
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Really hard…and tragically too so she can get the life insurance
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Haha….yeah.
Just found out one my friends is a Wings fan. So I had to take him out back and shoot him…..so sad today.
by Avalanchefan86 on Feb 17, 2012 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
Avs hat. Nords Hoodie
THE COLORADO AVALANCHE HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP. RAYMOND BOURQUE: A DREAM COME TRUE!
by Pyotr09AVS! on Feb 17, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
wearing my SOB blueberry and my avs hat the wings fan hasnt showed up yet dunno if she is wearing here wings T i was tempted to wear my dutchy in hopes he would play
Our Universe is so Humongous Big - Illya Bryzgalov
Don't worry be happy right now - Illya Bryzgalov
by Freakoffaleash on Feb 17, 2012 10:04 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
My blank Avs jersey has a bad track record. I haven’t been wearing it for a while. Think I should try it out, tonight?
only if you hate the avalanche
Our Universe is so Humongous Big - Illya Bryzgalov
Don't worry be happy right now - Illya Bryzgalov
by Freakoffaleash on Feb 17, 2012 10:07 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Me
But I’m not in the States….
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 17, 2012 3:41 PM MST up reply actions
So, yeah, Edmonton….
What’s the worst that can happen? Right? I mean come on, psshhh, it’s Edmonton? What are they gonna do? They’re like all Edmonton-y and stuff. Their goaltender is older than the combined ages of their first forward line. They have an expert, but he’s an expert at suckage. The only reason to be here is to see which hack we will pick up for a 7th round pick next week. They’d like to think they can fail for nail, but in reality they just fail.
Andyray ArlyleCay
Amazing defense…don’t forget their amazing defense
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Jarko can suck it, Tuomo is the one I feel bad for….
He almost got out of Carolina…. almost. Plus his brother is one of the biggest dicks on the planet.
Andyray ArlyleCay
“Sorry Tuomo, our Mom said we couldn’t come to your house and play because Jarkko keeps punching us in the back of the head and calling us schlouderfruzens. Timmy had to get his spleen removed after last months blindside atomic knee drop, and every time we eat dinner there everything suspiciously tastes like urine.”
Andyray ArlyleCay
by Paul X on Feb 17, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions 5 recs
Ick, triple IPA? If only IPAs didn’t give me headaches :(
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 9:33 AM MST up reply actions
I generally don’t like IPAs either. I’m not a fan of over hopping beers.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 10:12 AM MST up reply actions
“over hopping”? I find them hopped juuuuust right.
It’s all so much based on preference, of course. I have never enjoyed a Dunkelweizen, for example.
me too, IPA’s are the best! Falling Rock Tap House has Pliney the Elder on Tap
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
I don’t mind the taste, but after two sips a nasty headache induces, I have no idea why, anyone else have this problem?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
I don’t get that but I’ve heard that from peeps before. Maybe the hops do something?
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
That’s interesting. I did a very brief reading of that, so the question might already be answered… but I have exceptional seasonal allergies, and my sinus reaction is due to an excess of histamine. If that was true, why wouldn’t I be reacting to the beer?
I could see it as a difference between an allergic reaction which causes an excess of histamine in my case as distinguished from an allergy to histamine itself in the case of beer allergy.
Yeah, it’s apparently pretty common. I’m not sure the reasoning for it, but I would have to imagine it’s the quantity of hops.
Can you drink barley wines? They often have a higher IBU than IPA would. If it causes you the problem, then it’s just hops.
Or, possibly, it is the particular strain of hops. The common dry-hopping hops in North America are Cascades and Centennial. Try an English IPA and see if you get a headache. They typically use different, but related, hops
I’ve never hard a barley wine so I will be sure to try that and document it, along with an english ipa. But I think you may be right, it may be the hops.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
Love Dünkelweises, Märzens, Porters, Red Ales, Scotch Ales, Hefeweisens. I like most beers, and I can have the occasional Pale Ales, I just tend to like my beers less hoppy.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:18 PM MST up reply actions
I prefer tripels, dubels, quads, anything belgian really, love Hefes, I also have found a huge love for Red, Amber and Brown ales. mmmmmm
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
I do love myself some Quads. Had the Avery one for my birthday the other night. Exquisite.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
You would like sad beers you emo jerk.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
by c6hor8 on Feb 17, 2012 12:19 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Ever have three philosophers by Ommegang?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
really anything by Ommegang is awesome. Their Abbey Ale is phenominal.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
BURN. THE. WITCH.
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.
I’ve got some fire ready. You lead the way.
"In my experience, there's no such thing as luck" -Obi Wan Kenobi
O'Reilly works harder than you
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
awe be nice :(
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
With trembling fingers do I click this link… please please please say this is available in Canada now
I’m moving this weekend, and a reward for one of my movers is a bottle of Pliny the Elder. It’s good currency.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
We have a sleeper couch. Asking a friend to move a sleeper couch is worse than sleeping with his ex-girlfriend a day after they broke up.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
I don’t know if it’s that bad….and yes I have move lots of hide-a-beds/sleeper couches. I have two in my house, my grandmother has had about 5 million of them.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
This is the f*cking truth. Particularly if there are stairs involved.
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
I am on the east coast…can’t get the Russian River stuff.
But if anyone’s interested in a possible beer trade, let me know. I can get some good Dogfish Head, Victory, and Brooklyn Brewery beers, among others.
No soup for you!
How would you execute a beer trade? I’ve heard about it before and have been interested in it, but I don’t quite know how to do it lawfully. You can’t mail beer.
I haven’t done it myself, but I think the laws are more about breweries shipping beer directly to people as a distribution channel. I don’t think it’s illegal for a person to mail beer to another person. My S.O. got me a “micro brew of the month” club thingy for xmas and they ship them to in a really safe, protected, unmarked container (which I could use to ship in a potential beer trade). It’s not labeled as beer or anything, so who would know?
The people here would probably have more info. http://www.reddit.com/r/beertrade/
No soup for you!
“Who would know” is never an acceptable answer for me for breaking a law. It will differ from province-to-province or state-to-state. I know that you cannot ship beer in Alberta unless you are a licensed exporter of alcohol.
There MUST be a way, unless people are simply doing it unlawfully.
The FAQ on the site I linked says the laws are very strict about SALES, and that’s why it’s important that these are trades…no money changes hands. They also say to use a private shipping company (as opposed to USPS), they recommend Fed Ex.
No soup for you!
Pliney
Look at ratebeer.com and look at Pliney rating. 1641 reviews, a perfect 100 score, unreal.
check this out on beer of the month
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
I’m well aware of Pliney’s reputation, that’s why I’m trying to get someone to hook me up! :-)
No soup for you!
..and now that I’ve actually read the article mfured20 linked, I see that it’s all about freshly tapped kegs in CO, not bottles.
So I’m SOL either way. D’oh!
No soup for you!
no, you can get bottles at a few liquor stors here, my friend bought some.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
I just realized the bar across the street from my work has Pliny the Elder. Gonna have to see what it’s all about
by GregDaybreak on Feb 17, 2012 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
I am torn between my fury at the fact that you have such easy access to Pliny and my vicarious joy that you will get to experience it.
The Scoop
http://www.milehighwineandspirits.com/beers/notesfromthebeercooler/tabid/LocateUs.aspx
This store has it now (just called them), ONE bottle limit per human. The guy said it is NOT (technically!) legal to ship it but that “people do it all the time, just don’t tell the post office” (maybe that will work for you JPRO when you are not trying to get disbarred?).
So, I will have one for both of you guys as a courtesy to my fellow hockey lovers!
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
Ha, the local liquor store here also limited us to one bottle per person when the latest batch of Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA came out. Sold them for $11 bucks each (12. 0z. bottle).
No soup for you!
only $132/12-pack. reasonable for sure
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
It’s a really interesting beer. Quite sweet actually, unless it’s aged for some time. DFH recommends aging it for up to 10 years. The two of us each bought a bottle. We tried one and are storing the other one.
At 18-20% ABV, even the ~6 oz. each was more than enough to do the trick :-)
No soup for you!
I wouldn’t spend that much on 120-minute. I was very disappointed with it compared to 60- and 90-minute.
It’s very good, don’t get me wrong. I just expected more from it after having the incredible 60- and 90-minute IPAs.
Yeah, it’s not really the same kind of beer as the 60 or the 90, despite the similar name.
No soup for you!
BTW, try their Burton Baton if you haven’t yet. Also a little bit on the sweet side, but really, really delicious…especially from the keg.
No soup for you!
I feel the same way about people who get to see the Avs. I am in Cali so I only get to see them a few times a year
by GregDaybreak on Feb 17, 2012 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
I get to see them once every year, during the pre-season (Frozen Fury). Otherwise I have to travel at least 8hrs.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
It is one of the sad ironies of my life that when I last lived in Denver, you simply could not get tickets to the Avs without paying through the nose or being a season ticket holder, and now that I live 2000 miles away, the Avs are practically giving tickets away.
No soup for you!
I have been to frozen fury the past 3 years and its always a treat to walk through that gauntlet of drunk King’s fans with my Duchene Battalion jersey
by GregDaybreak on Feb 17, 2012 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
BTW- the beer of month dudes have a special license to ship.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
Parise
Last night I had a dream he joined the Avs. (I immediately checked NHL.com this morning because it felt so real)
Meow-valanche. Prrr-valanche.
Tell me about your dream again, George.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
by Dixomatic on Feb 17, 2012 9:41 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Tell me about the puppies again….
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
Rabbits, weren’t it?
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.
Quit crying and maybe we’ll find you a fresh mouse.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 5:20 PM MST up reply actions
I’m glad I’m not the only one who has Avs-related dreams on occasion. Usually I’m on the team, and linemates with Sakic or something cool like that. :-)
No soup for you!
I probably have an Avs dream about once a month. Usually it involves a player from another team being traded to the Avs (James Neal, Claude Giroux, Zach Parise the most recent ones)
Meow-valanche. Prrr-valanche.
by Sean Harsha on Feb 17, 2012 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
get ow herrrr!
It seems like everytime we try to fire sacco we go on a tear and win a couple. damn him!!!!
by 2fkndope on Feb 17, 2012 9:48 AM MST via Android app reply actions
not that we could actully get him fired or anything but…lets do it!!
by 2fkndope on Feb 17, 2012 9:50 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
#SaccoCausesCancer
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
#SaccoHatesHappiness
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
#SaccoClubsSeals
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
#SaccoIsAJuniorCoachAtBest
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
#saccofanclub
Our Universe is so Humongous Big - Illya Bryzgalov
Don't worry be happy right now - Illya Bryzgalov
by Freakoffaleash on Feb 17, 2012 10:06 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
#SaccoShotJR
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
by Dixomatic on Feb 17, 2012 10:11 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
#SaccoMolestsPuppies
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
#I’veNeverSeenSatanAndSaccoInTheSamePlaceAtTheSameTimeJustSayin…
Andyray ArlyleCay
by Paul X on Feb 17, 2012 10:18 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
#SaccoTookTheCookiesFromTheCookieJar
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 10:32 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
#SaccoShitintheCookieJarWhileIWasn’tLookingandToldMeToTakeOne
I am boobs.
True Appreciator of the Dumba Train
by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Feb 17, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
#SaccoVanzetti
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
#ILikeHash
DDC is deeply embedded throughout this blog. For better or worse, his taint taints us all.
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 17, 2012 10:36 AM MST up reply actions 3 recs
#Saccoati
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
#SaccoLaughedWhenHeToldYou
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
#DidNotShootJRsDeputy
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 10:33 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I like totally read that as ‘Sacco Hates Hippies’. And I’m all like, who doesn’t? True story.
Thanks, Joe... Thanks, Peter.... Thanks, Adam....
Trade Deadline thought
I don’t think you’ll see to many significant moves this year because there are too many teams in the race for playoffs and it doesn’t exactly endure you to the fans when you are 2-4 pts out of playoff spot and sell off. Plus, the few guys available are needing a king’s ransom from what I’m reading. Grossman for a 2nd makes me think quincey is about the same value.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 10:40 AM MST reply actions
Nail, head, etc
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 10:43 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
a second and a third, to me that is ridic for Grossman.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
yeah, but philly is desperate for D. It’s hard to say b/c when you look at 2nd/3rd rd picks soooo many don’t pan out. Guess it depends who is drafting, a little luck. The Avs are like 2 for 13 on their last 13 2nd rd picks.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
I mean it’s hard to judge, but Radar and Elliott have already played in the nhl, as has Gaunce (although I know you don’t like him), Pickard is a solid prospect (really hard to judge goalies this early), Gali was a second rounder, the Avs missed on Cohen and Cann in that draft, also missed on Delmas in 09ish, so they are about 50% give or take for at least having players play in the NHL and being solid. Just speculation, but I believe that is above par.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
The Avs are like 2 for 13 on their last 13 2nd rd picks.
Let’s assume this is true. I am going to choose a good team randomly and assess how they did (not including 2011).
Chicago: Last 13 2nd round picks:
Ludvig Rensfeldt L
Justin Holl D
Kent Simpson
Stephen Johns
Brandon Pirri
Billy Sweatt
Akim Aliu
Igor Makarov R
Simon Danis-Pepin
Mike Blunden
Dan Bertram
Dave Bolland
Bryan Bickell
Ryan Garlock
Jakub Sindel
Yeah… besides Bolland and Bickell in 2004, that is a bunch of nobodies. Out of 15 2nd round picks since 2004, only 2 have been worthwhile NHL-ers. The Avs have a much better track record than Chicago it seems.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
2nd round picks aren’t really all that valuable
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
My counter argument was longer and more list-like.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
My counter was extremely long, I just did all the writing a year ago.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
exactly, but I would still take some.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
I just disproved your point that the Avs are so bad at drafting.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
no you didn’t, you picked Chicago who sucked all those years. Pick Detroit or Pittsburgh or somebody else and we will see. The Avs have done better the last 2-3 years (who the fuck couldn’t when you pick top 3?)
Want to talk firsts:
Nedorost
Johanson
kuleshov
wolski
pahlsson
parker
skoula
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
Fine. I will.
Pittsburgh:
Philip Samuelsson
Keven Veilleux
Carl Sneep
Michael Gergen
Johannes Salmonsson
Alex Goligoski
Ryan Stone
Ondrej Nemec
Noah Welch
Shane Endicott
Matt Murley
Jeremy Van Hoof
Some winners there. I have now proved you wrong twice.
As an aside, Pittsburgh did a pretty good job in later rounds: notably, Ryan Malone, Letang, Kennedy.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
when you get Malkin, Crosby, Fluery and Staal in 1st it doesn’t matter!
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
It's just a general rule here at MHH...
Don’t be a dick. It’s a couple rules under, “DDC is never wrong,” and “never ask Joe to make a top 20 list.”
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
by Tony Trujillo on Feb 17, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
WTF are u 2 talking about? I was saying matter of factly that for them it doesn’t matter b/c those guys are so good.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
It’s right above “You must point out every single possible sexual innuendo, intended or not, in Sandie’s comments.”
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Hence why Sandie gets so many replies. Pretty much every comment she makes ends up as innuendo.
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
I want to, “in her endo.”*
- - Guild ref.
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
by Tony Trujillo on Feb 17, 2012 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
Avs 1st rd picks still on team
Duchene, Landy, jc, no wonder we aren’t that good.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
Malkin (2004, Crosby(2005), Fluery (2003) and Staal(2006)
Duchene (2009), Hishon (2010), Landeskog (2011), Siemens (2011)
What’s differnet about these two lists?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
is it the year?!
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
Yes shot, it is! Not that they will match those players, but all the teams that are good now have had their high picks in the league longer.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I agree, that’s my point on those firsts I listed earlier, those guys could have been solid, core guys right now and we could have been really good.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
still on the big club. they have 1sts in system too.
we’ve done better lately but we had a horrible stretch (when we had picks which wasn’t that often)
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
That is counter to the meaning of your original posts. You compare the Avs to the these good teams and bemoan how much worse they are when clearly it is because of drafting and having those picks develop; something the Avs can’t have done with newer picks.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
what?
you’re saying b/c in the last 3 drafts (when they had top 3 picks in two of those) they have drafted well, which I agree with. You are dismissing all those 1st rd picks who didn’t pan out as good drafting?
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
You argued, above, that the Avs are horrible at drafting 2nd rounders. I showed and compared their drafting “Scorecard” to that of two Stanley Cup winning teams and proved they were not as bad as you make them out to be. You changed the argument and made it about 1sts instead, to which I promptly showed that the time gap between Pittsburgh’s 1sts and the Avs’ is important.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
no you didn’t , you switched a ONE round comparison to they IN GENERAL, are not that bad at drafting. Which , I proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were until the last few years.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
Perfect use of the straw man on top of shield logic. We were never arguing whether they got better or worse. That was not at issue. What was at issue, is you claiming how BAD the Avs’ track record is in the 2nd round. To which I offered two, perfect, comparisons of how they drafted better than the two good teams.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
ok, hor, you win. The Avs draft great and Pittsburgh drafts shitty. It’s a clear win for you.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:41 PM MST up reply actions
is this an example of straw man?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
honest question
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
Yes. I never said Pittsburgh drafts shitty. He changed what I said and made it that, then discussed it.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
YAY LEARNING IS FUN
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
Not that arguing is necessary nor even worthwhile all the time, but noticing straw man fallacies is important. People, and this included me, use them sometimes without thinking.
The human mind has a natural difficulty accepting their point proven incorrect, even if it just seems that way at the moment, so the sub-conscience says “what can I argue that will make him wrong?” It chooses something else, related, but different and argues that.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
yes. anytime someone argues against a misrepresentation they create based on your statements, that’s a straw man.
thanks for the double clarification… words are hard
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:53 PM MST up reply actions
I’m trying not to sound stupid, but I am not well versed in many of these definitions. Can someone dumb down Straw Man and Shield Logic for me?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
Shield logic: Not commonly known, but essentially it’s when someone makes a lot of points and when they are refuted, change their opinion and argue something else. Eseentially, creating a shield of points in the first statement that act as the “battleground” and argue around that while not fulling admitting to making those original points.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
thank you for these good sir.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
It’s not on wikipedia, then it doesn’t exist, right?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:53 PM MST up reply actions
There might be a formal name, but my classics teacher taught it to me as “shield logic”. I actually never looked it up because anyone I explain it to, totally agrees with it.
Hmm.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
there’s a whole class of logical issues called “formal fallacies.” everyone should be aware of them and filter statements made by others through them.
full disclosure: learn the formal fallacies, you will come to hate politicians even more.
Or don’t, b/c it will cause you to hate life whenever you come within earshot of political news.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
OT
Why should one hate politicians? They are doing a job that is despicable on it’s face so do most of the people of Dirty Jobs and whoever has to sleep with a Kardasian. I don’t hate those people.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
can’t wait to read this at some time in the future
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
Really wikipedia?
Fallacy of many questionsFallacy of many questions or loaded question: groups more than one question in the form of a single question.
Example
Argument: Have you stopped beating your wife?
Problem: A yes or no answer will still be an admission of guilt to beating your wife at some point. (See also Mu.)
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I think it’s worth noting that the scouting staff/ draft experts have changed. That seems to be a pretty important factor.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
That is what I have been thinking reading through this. I see draft picks from 5 to 8 to 10 years ago being brought up and used as reason why the current FO is stupid and sucks. If that is the case why not bring up our draft picks in the 80’s and 90s.
My brother and I used to say that drowning in beer was like heaven, eh. Now he's not here and I got two soakers, this isn't heaven, this sucks.
Detroit 2nd rounders
Calle Jarnkrok
Landon Ferraro
Tomas Tatar
Cory Emmerton
Shawn Matthias
Dick Axelsson
Justin Abdelkader
Jimmy Howard
Jiri Hudler
Tomas Fleischmann
Igor Grigorenko
Tomas Kopecky
Ryan Barnes
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
They did better actually than most actually.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
In fact, exceptionally well. They must be the abberation.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I wouldn’t say exceptionally well and I don’t count Flash because they tried and tried and couldn’t develop him.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
that is unreal, what are you talking about?
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
I was mistaken and thinking of someone else, upon checking my facts, he was traded, along with a first, and another late rounder to the caps for Robert Lang.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
As good (which based on definitions around here is better than easily replaceable ) I’d say: Fleishman, Howard. maybe Hudler…
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
Kopecky is decent as is Abdelkader.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Yeah, but so is Galiardi.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
to be fair Gali can’t hold their jocks
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
Really, you don’t think Galiardi and Abdelkader are the exact same player?
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:05 PM MST up reply actions
no, abdelkater is much more physical and has better hands. He’s not crosby or anything but I would trade him in a second for Abby
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
He’s a 3rd 4th liners, so is gali. Any difference in the two is miniscule.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
Kopecky has 6 goals and 15 assists in 55 games, Gali has 8 goals, 6 assists in 54 games, yeah huge difference there…
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:05 PM MST up reply actions
kopecky has better hands imo, he’s nothin special that said.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:09 PM MST up reply actions
His better hands have netted a whopping 6 more points mostly assists (which means somebody else was doing the burying of chances. Not sure I’d call that better to any degree that matters.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
like I said, I don’t think he’s anything special but fopr example (right or wrong) look at the contract he just signed. You think Gali would get that. He had 42 pts last year and Gali has had quite a bit of time on scoring lines.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
WTF does his contract and the Wing’s willingness to pay him have to do with his hands and relative worth to a comparison of Galiardi? You’re reaching for supporting data that has no bearing on the conversation in order to validate your opinion.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
he’s on Florida. signed a pretty big deal. he had 42 pts last year. You get you facts straight
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
12M over 4 years, no WAY Gali gets that deal. So it only proves that at least 1 team thinks he’s better. That’s it, agreed.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
You’re completely right. How dare I not be aware of a Gali comparable career. My bad.
You get you facts straight
How about you present some?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
j/c , see this is what it regresses to? hor has to hassle me and now it’s a pile-on session. I just said 2-3x he isn’t anything special but if you watch Kopecky he has a lot more offense IMO than Gali. 42 pts aint too bad playing 3rd line. He had 15 goals last year.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
to your credit, you have said IMO numerous times.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:47 PM MST up reply actions
True story. He’s also riddled his posts with “No ways”, “proves”, statements about “Jock holding”, “The Avs draft great and Pittsburgh drafts shitty” and other strawman arguments, lucky in quotations, dismissing valid variables in counterpoints while not dismissing them in his own basis for arguments, as well as presenting an overall 13-year-old tone of condescension, sarcasm, and rabble-rousing that grates on the nerves of myself and others that are willing to feed his trollish behaviors.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
that was a well written blurb. I feel so inferior in my writing ability at this blog, hahaha
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:54 PM MST up reply actions
I said they have not drafted well in the 2nd rd or in general. If hor wants to pick a team to compare to and if they suck as bad (which detroit did not) I don’t think it makes my point invalid. I said IMO Kopecky is better than Gali. If that’s rabble-rousing I’m the pope. You guys like to pile-on, so be it, I’m a big boy and unlike lots of other people don’t go crying just because someone doesn’t agree with me.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
…unlike lots of other people don’t go crying just because someone doesn’t agree with me.
Nope, you act pedantic, invert statements, change arguments, and generally act trollish. We’re all aware of that.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
feed feed feed
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
if I said the same thing about you how would you like it? would you consider that trolling? See, you personally attack, I try not to do that regardless of arguments.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 3:13 PM MST up reply actions
this wasn’t in response to me was it? The squished margins always get me confused in big threads. Anyway to change that?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 3:16 PM MST up reply actions
You can click the up button to see which comment is the original.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
ah, I always wondered what that did
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 3:28 PM MST up reply actions
And yet you never clicked it?
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
I guess so, usually I’m the first to see what something does, regardless of the consequence. As odd as it sounds, I never thought to click it, hard to wrap even my mind around currently.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 3:30 PM MST up reply actions
ah, I always wondered what that did
Me too.
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
by Tony Trujillo on Feb 17, 2012 5:15 PM MST up reply actions
What personal attack? I’m speaking to the tone, content, and delivery of your posts in a “discussion” with another member of the site.
The don’t be a dick comments are directed at you as a WARNING from a member of the site ADMINISTRATION. If you’re inferring something personal from that, I’d advise you to take your own advice:
unlike lots of other people don’t go crying just because someone doesn’t agree with me.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Mike,
Read you first response to me in this thread and honestly tell me that’s a nice tone?? I don’t care like I said but I haven’t had a problem with anybody all day. Hor I know will always be on me b/c that’s his MO for me. Other than that, it’s been fine.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 3:31 PM MST up reply actions
The rehash post? JC, that was a general observation about the repetitive nature of the pre-game thread comments (and participants) the last couple of weeks. It was (I admit) more of a response from a real-world criticism I heard recently about this site and some frequent commentators than about any one post.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
does JC=Just Curious?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 3:39 PM MST up reply actions
Jumpin’ Cougars
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
NTTAWWT
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.
whenever i see long acronyms like this, i just visualize people saying “NNNNNNNNTTTTTTAAAAWWWWWWWTTTTT” phonetically. it’s quite humorous.
Technically not an acronym: (6:30)
/excuse to post George Carlin
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 4:40 PM MST up reply actions
That was what I was thinkg of as I was writing it.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 5:43 PM MST up reply actions
fair enough. My point is that when I say things (which I think you do often too) it’s just my opinion generally and off the cuff. I don’t think I need to do 2 hrs of research to prove every opinion, it’s an opinion, not fact. I said Kopecky is better than Gali, that’s it. I didn’t say "hey, you dumb asshole, he had 42 pts last year, can’t ya read, Gali never had that many, etc. That’s all.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 3:44 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t think I need to do 2 hrs of research to prove every opinion, it’s an opinion, not fact.
Not all opinions are of equal weight. uninformed ones aren’t worth much. Not saying you need to do 2 hrs of research to form one, but be flexible with them. If you have one, and facts counter it, changing your argument or digging your heels in just makes you look bad.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 4:22 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I first chose a randomly good team. Chicago. You asked for a good team like Detroit or Pittsburg. I offered Pittsburgh and it proved you wrong. Detroit was a counter example.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I have an opinion
the facts do not support it
SHINY (distraction)
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:46 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
that is why they are good. Look where they got Zetterberg, Pavel, Franzen too
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 1:59 PM MST up reply actions
They got lucky with Datsyuk and Zetterberg.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
we did, Milan Hejduk
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
We got a 27 goal scorer with the second to last pick in the draft. If Detroit had any idea how good those guys would be, they’d have taken them in the 1st round, at least the second. Letting them drop to the sixth… yeah that’s luck.
Also picked a good defenseman in the 4th round (Gilbert)
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
one time 27 goalo scorer. They are known for scouting euros so some luck, sure, but they are good at it.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
And the Avs are known for scouting NTDP and NCAA heavily. Your point?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
that it wasn’t just luck by them. Kronwall, Franzen, there’s more. Who have the Avs got from the NTDP? I really don’t know thus the question.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
Liles, Stastny, Johnson, Ballard, Leopold, Anderson, Cohen, Hensick, Mueller, Porter, Shattenkirk.
According to this link.
Granted, some of those guys came in trade, but many of them occured early in a players career and if that the Avs’ NTDP scouting didn’t weigh in evaluations, I’d be surprised.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Stastny. Shattenkirk. I’m sure there’s more, those are two off the top of my head
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
YOU CHEATED AND LOOKED UP!!!
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
but we weren’t talking firsts, we were talking second.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
You were, right up until he was disproved and then he shifted the argument to be a dick.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I’ve got a bad feeling about this…
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
by Tony Trujillo on Feb 17, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
I am probably the worst possible person to argue with if you are going to use shield logic.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
can we have an MHH counter that counts how many time you mention being a dick? OR an MHH drinking game, drink once everytime Mike mentions being a dick…
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
drink once everytime Sandie’s cupcakes are mentioned
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
this made me giggle
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
Agree. But I’m not lily white on this issue so I thought I’d check.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 3:23 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Avs last 14
Calvin Pickard
Stefan Elliott
Ryan O’Reilly
Peter Delmas
Cameron Gaunce
T.J. Galiardi
Trevor Cann
Colby Cohen
Cody Burki
Nigel Williams
Tom Fristche
Chris Durand
Ryan Stoa
Paul Stastny
I count Stastny, Gali, Elliott, Radar, Pickard and Gaunce which is 6/14. Notice towards the bottom of this list is when Pracy wasn’t here so there are more misses. If you don’t wanna count Gaunce, then it’s 5/14, which is still better than 33%
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
I’d give Colby Cohen’s imaginary awesomeness at least .5
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
well if he get’s .5 then stoa atleast get’s .6
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
na, because he doesn’t get scratched at the AHL level…
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
wait a second
You might be correct BUT as of right now, you have exactly Stas/Radar as good players, that’s it. Gali is a 4th linme grinder. Gaunce, Pickard Elliot – TBD
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
Would you take Stastny and Radar over Bickel and Bolland?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Then you agree with his premise on its face.
End of discussion.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
no I don’t , they were likely one of the worst teams drafting 2nd rd picks, you look at Detroit?
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 2:31 PM MST up reply actions
WE JUST DID ABOVE. You asked me to compare to a good team like Pittsburgh and I just showed you that the Avs drafted better than them.
How many more examples would you like?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I don’t know a lot about trade value and such, but I’d imagine Quincey would have quite a bit more value than Grossman wouldn’t he?
Mile High Hockey: Best Avs blog on the internet..... maybe.
don’t think so, meaning he would fetch a 1st, don’t see that happening
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
Could happen.
Quincey (23pts/5G/18A)is outscoring Grossman (5pts/0G/5A).
Quincey (66 hits) is somewhat (bit of a stretch) close in hits (96)
Quincey has 70 Blocked shots compared to Grossman’s 100.
Considering that it’s probably a middling second pick (from LA) and an early 3rd (from Minnesota) for Grossman.
We could definitely get an early 2nd or late first for Quincey.
I am boobs.
True Appreciator of the Dumba Train
by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Feb 17, 2012 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
Plus, Quincey is a former (or at least very close, I can’t remember) 40 point scorer, and he’s still an RFA. He’s got at least late first round value.
Mile High Hockey: Best Avs blog on the internet..... maybe.
then I would trade him for sure, we need that pick
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
Wait! No!!
This isn’t how it’s supposed to work!
I proved you incorrect… Now we’re supposed to argue, before I call you a troll, while both of us call each other names, and then deny stating any personal attacks.
I am boobs.
True Appreciator of the Dumba Train
by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Feb 17, 2012 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
what is this compliance?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
I’ve turned a new leaf! Quincey won’t garner a 1st, there, now we can argue.
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 1:32 PM MST up reply actions
Quincey
Johnson has been playing very well lately, and he’s also been paired with Quincey a lot over that span. Is that coincidence? Do those two mesh well, or has EJ on his own hit another gear?
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
I think that’s a very interesting question.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
I think this is a very interesting comment.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
by c6hor8 on Feb 17, 2012 11:42 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I mean we all saw how terrible it was when EJ and Hejda got paired together. But also there was alot of pressure on EJ at the start of the season, I wonder if he wasn’t his own worst enemy. I think that although Quincey has the most points of our Dmen he can stay home and cover for when EJ wheels the puck up the ice. Also, the two seem to have a natural chemistry ie, they really move the puck well on regroups and make beautiful breakout passes.
I find this response as interesting as the original interesting question.
OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd
by Busted Twigg on Feb 17, 2012 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
Oilers fans Y U NO TROLL?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
They have a hard time using the computer?
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 5:41 PM MST up reply actions
Hal Gill traded to Preds
for propects Blake Geoffrion and Robert Slaney and a second-round pick.
No soup for you!
Wow. Geoffreion was a good player I thought.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
He’s got a hell of a pedigree. Then again, so did Jonathan Roy.
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.
And Paul Stastny.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
by c6hor8 on Feb 17, 2012 12:39 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
but instead he decided to tell every one that St Paddy is a Proud, Proud Father.
And here is an odd interview with both Roys. “what’s it like to be French”… “uuhhh … good?”
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 17, 2012 3:53 PM MST up reply actions
Hall Gill is pretty good too…. for a guy who doesn’t move but defends well.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
He has the mobility of a redwood. This is understandable as he also has the size of a redwood.
OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd
by Busted Twigg on Feb 17, 2012 12:40 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
and lemme just rec that.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
he was described on tv as a “poor man’s chara”. I’d say that is pretty accurate.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
I wanted him :(… he’d be a good fit on our team… as long we don’t expect Chara.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
eh, we have so many defensive d men now. No room for him here either.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
Wow.
Malkin is better than Crosby.
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.
Say the fuck what? A 2nd-rounder and Geoffrion?
Couldn’t Nashville have avoided this by re-signing SOB?
I take it all back – not trading SOB for a 2nd. Now I want to hold out for a 1st.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
No no. Hal GIll AND a conditional 5th.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
well that makes a big difference.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
I love Down Goes Brown
“We’re still 10 days away from the deadline, so this marks the first time in history that Hal Gill moved more quickly than other players.”
No soup for you!
by creamy on Feb 17, 2012 12:33 PM MST up reply actions 5 recs
Every time he writes jokes I feel like I shouldn’t even bother with my own.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
The strangest part is when he calls into puckdaddy, he’s not that funny. It’s jsut his way of writing, phrasing, and delivery in words that is incredible.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Ever see an interview with George Carlin or Louis CK? their not generally all that funny. And those two guys are fucking hilarious
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
A Geoffrion in montreal
What could possibly go wrong?
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 12:34 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
z
Mueller was not skating at pre-game.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
It is so good to be back to reading MHH and not doing work. I have been in all day meetings all this week and have had to actually accomplish something this week.
On another note. Scored my first ever hockey goal Monday night in a 6 to 2 win over my team’s hated rival and it was the game winning goal. It only took me about 55 games to score my first goal, screw you Scott Gomez. Of course I have played defense for 45 or so of those 55 games and I am more of a shutdown defensive d-man.
My brother and I used to say that drowning in beer was like heaven, eh. Now he's not here and I got two soakers, this isn't heaven, this sucks.
hahaha, I just scored my 400th goal in club in online play. Good times.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 1:04 PM MST up reply actions
Dater reporting that duchene is now listed as day to day and has an outside chance of playing the jets on sunday. Mueller is still out with Not A Concussion. Olver – o’ reilly – landeskog, yes those wings are correct
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 1:16 PM MST via Android app reply actions
Olver with Factor and Landy
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
Here’s your chance Olver. You can make Jones obsolete very quickly.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Gali and great do not belong in same sentence
by the cool breeze on Feb 17, 2012 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
Galiardi has a great twitter account.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
by c6hor8 on Feb 17, 2012 1:37 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I know where Galiardi’s parents live… That’s great!?
Surprisingly close to my old school….
I am boobs.
True Appreciator of the Dumba Train
by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Feb 17, 2012 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
By doing this
You are decreasing the ice time of either Duchene or O’Reilly.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Hm. What about rolling
Jones-Stastny-Hejduk
Landeskog-O’Reilly-Olver
Galiardi-Duchene-Mueller
with equal ES time and Winnik-McClement only in defensive situations and PK. That way Sacco can roll 7 defensemen all he wants.
How man you get all 3 centers 19-20 minutes a game?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
17-18 minutes is enough for them. I really dream of rolling three scoring lines. I am pretty tired of opposition covering our top line.
That would mean
Without penalties, 51 minutes is eaten up by those 3 lines and 9 is left for McC.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Check out Cedrick’s mask. Dat iz da shit!
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
Mile High Hockey - Asst. Editor
The Hockey Writers - Avalanche Correspondent
by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 17, 2012 1:40 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
It takes a few weeks to get a mask painted.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 17, 2012 3:54 PM MST up reply actions
Goalies are all nutcases.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
True but what does possessed Santa have to do with Lake Erie, the monsters, Denver, Colorado, or the Avalanche? It’s like he just transposed the image from the side of his uncle’s rad van.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Don’t be obtuse. Everyone knows that the French word for Santa is literally translated as “Des” (the) “Jardins” (man in the fat suit).
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
It’s not… it mes The Gardens…
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 17, 2012 3:55 PM MST up reply actions
I actually think Jardens is “Gardens”
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:41 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Just saying...
Jibs and thedoc debating here, in this thread, is the reason I love this blog. Thanks.
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
I very much enjoy discussing these things with Jibs. We’re both willing to have our minds changed, which leads to all kinds of interesting learnings both ways (well, at least on my end ;) ).
We’re both willing to have our minds changed
That’s the key. To often now people walk into the debate with their mind made up.
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
by Tony Trujillo on Feb 17, 2012 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
I enjoy it too. I like having a place on the internet where people can have long intense but respectful discussions about stuff.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
amber is the color of your energy…
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
311? yes please.
Mile High Hockey: Best Avs blog on the internet..... maybe.
by stpn47 on Feb 17, 2012 2:18 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
flagged
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
rec'd
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
Stop! Doctor time.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Can't heal this
Duuuunununu
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 4:19 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
who are they?
I just got flagged didn’t I?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
Or Banned. Guess you’ll find out in a minute…
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
redemption?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
phew
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
not saying much given MHH’s proclivity for grade inflation
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 3:11 PM MST up reply actions
They are gooder, but my preference is for the Black Rebel Motorcycle Club.
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
I’ve heard some of their stuff, but it hasn’t resonated with me. Been into the Rival Sons a bunch lately as well as Fitz and the Tantrums, Jonathan Tyler and the Northern Lights, and of course the Foo.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
To me, the Black Keys are a really good radio band. It’s not something that really connects with me, but it’s pretty enjoyable and I like it when it comes on the radio. Not sure I’d ever buy an album, but I enjoy it enough.
That’s not a huge knock on them, there’s plenty of room in the world for bands like that.
They do have a great band name. “The Black Keys”. It implies a little bit of rule breaking, a little rebellion. Someone who doesn’t quite stay on the safe, white keys. Someone who challenges the establishment and pushes the boundry a little.
Perfect for a rock & role band.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
FYI
for current rock bands, I prefer Airborne Toxic event, MUTEMATH, and Band of Skulls. (Saw Muemath live at a small venue a few weeks ago. Really good show.)
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 17, 2012 3:26 PM MST up reply actions
K New Jersey
Time to beat the Ducks please…
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
I have no idea how this relates to anything but
#replacefilmstitleswithvagina is trending on twitter. This is the first one I saw:
Anonymous UK @ANONYMOUS_UK #replacefilmstitleswithvagina Weekend At Arby’s
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
General MHH or SBNation question
is there anyway to increase the size of my page margins so longer threads can expand farther, rather than just having two grey stripes down the sides of my webpage?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
like the wide view setting? How?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 3:24 PM MST up reply actions
I think I am, and I checked all the account settings, so nvm, I don’t think it’s possible.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
thank you
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 3:36 PM MST up reply actions
Okay.
I’ve been coming to this blog for two of three weeks now (maybe off by a few days), and I did not know that. I. Suck.
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
by Tony Trujillo on Feb 17, 2012 5:31 PM MST up reply actions
I’ve been around for over a year and only realized that now, huge help isn’t it?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 5:36 PM MST up reply actions
So many comments jesus christ
Z z z z z z z z z z z z z
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 4:20 PM MST via Android app reply actions
Hey, MHH
I wrote a new piece for SB Nation about my feelings on the Avs/Canucks rivalry. Um, I don’t like it.
Filling up your senses like a night in the forest since 1992.
by frightened inmate #2 on Feb 17, 2012 4:43 PM MST reply actions
Fuck, I don’t want to read all this…
We better not fucking lose another division game… 5points out and the Ducks are going to fucking make the playoffs, bank on it now.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Vertigo anyone?
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 5:03 PM MST up reply actions
I know it's bad, but when I see an Eklund post, why do I feel like ...
I’m going to go with the trainwreck hypothesis.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
by Dixomatic on Feb 17, 2012 5:06 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Best thing.
Mile High Hockey - Lucy is a b*tch
by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 7:33 PM MST up reply actions
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