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Writers of MileHighHockey often get asked questions related to hockey. We have watched the replays, and if we don't know the answers we are more than willing to help out a fellow hockey fan and try to find an answer for you. So, we are starting an "Ask the MHH staff". How do you get your questions answered? Email me. My email is at the bottom of the page, I'll send the question to the person who can answer the question for you. Every Friday we will post the question and answers.

The first question comes from Quietstorm560. He wants an explanation of the three point games. Until recently all games were only worth two points, a win was worth two points wereas a loss was worth only one point. Now, as soon as a game gets into an overtime situation both teams get a point, then the winner gets another point. This leads to a theoritical three point game. Let's have an example:

These are the standings:

Team A 6 points

Team B 3 points

Team C 3 points

So if Team A plays Team C and they go to overtime, and Team A wins. Team A gets another 2 points, whereas Team C gets one point. That would make the new standings to look like this:

Team A 8 points

Team C 4 points

Team B 3 points

See how three points were handed out? Team A got two points, and Team C got one point. So if the next night Team B and Team A play, and Team A wins again, but this time in regulation. This would lead to the standings to look like this:

Team A 10 points

Team C 4 points

Team B 3 points

The NHL awards a team an extra point for being tied after three periods. Adrian Dater, of the Denver Post, recently also tackled the subject.

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How do year end standings point totals compare pre/post the 3pt OT rule? And is there a significant difference in the number of regulation wins the lowest qualifying team has?

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by MalachiConstant on Feb 17, 2012 9:07 AM MST reply actions  

yes, standings with/without the loser point, with ties instead of OT/SO, just OT + ties, that topic fascinates me, especially how little the stands usually change.

all the loser point really does is make the standings seem closer.

by thedoctor on Feb 17, 2012 9:39 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah. Every year I seem to advocate for the olympic system (reg win 3 ot win 2 otl 1 reg loss 0) and then the numbers show almost no difference

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by SteveHouse on Feb 17, 2012 10:46 AM MST via Android app up reply actions  

If the NHL adopted the international/Olympic scoring we wouldn’t have to worry about ROW.
An OT/SO win would be less points than a regulation win…but a SO win would be worth more than a SO loss. Right now you are almost better off getting the loss in the SO because a SOW is worthless when it comes to ties.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

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by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

But with a SO lose wouldn’t you be one point behind anyways so the SOW tiebreaker bust wouldn’t even matter anyways?

by LeonardoC6 on Feb 17, 2012 3:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks…I will be able to communicate this much easier to the people I’d been discussing it with now that I’ve got a visual example to showcase. Much appreciated and such a speedy answer—I only asked the question yesterday!

by quietstorm560 on Feb 17, 2012 9:15 AM MST via iPhone app reply actions  

A corollary that may be useful to note:

When two teams are tied in points, there has been an adjustment to the tie-breaking procedure. Before, the team with the most wins was higher in the standings, even if they had the same number of points. Now, only wins in Regulation or Overtime will count towards the tie-breaker. Shootout wins do not get added to the total.

This stat is in the ROW column when looking at the team standings.

by JProulx on Feb 17, 2012 9:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Not a problem- we aim to please.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 17, 2012 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

That dude loves him some grilled cheese.

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by Paul X on Feb 17, 2012 9:31 AM MST reply actions  

That cheeseburger looks delicious</em.

by JProulx on Feb 17, 2012 9:55 AM MST reply actions  

Of course this only works in N. American leagues….when you get to international play all games are worth three points.

Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.

Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 17, 2012 10:31 AM MST reply actions  

If you ask me, there should be no such thing as the loser point. There should be a 20 min OT period, and that’s it. If it’s still tied after 80 minutes of hockey, you get a tie.

by BraxtanFILM on Feb 17, 2012 10:58 AM MST reply actions  

pft, I’m a fan of continuous overtime. If it goes into 5 overtimes, oh well.

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by ProfessorOak on Feb 17, 2012 12:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I like that too. But a single 20 min OT is more likely to be approved. No stupid entertainment in between, just the 10 minutes it takes to Zamboni that shit.

by BraxtanFILM on Feb 17, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Goddamn loser point, grumble grumble.

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by TheRed on Feb 17, 2012 11:32 AM MST reply actions  

For some reason Team A reminds me of Vancouver. Fuck Tea A

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Feb 17, 2012 11:33 AM MST reply actions  

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by Pyotr09AVS! on Feb 17, 2012 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Don’t be a hoser eh?

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by Randy Time on Feb 17, 2012 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s Victoria, not Vancouver you’re thinking of.

by chases3 on Feb 17, 2012 6:44 PM MST up reply actions  

An interesting concept, but I half expected you to already get a fair number of immature and idiotic emails from various members of MHH. Inviting us to send more seems…………..

yeah.

by some white guy on Feb 17, 2012 2:15 PM MST reply actions  

I have gotten a few – rather out there e-mails.

It's all about Winnik

by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 17, 2012 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

well in my defense, you still reply to my emails.

by some white guy on Feb 17, 2012 8:34 PM MST up reply actions  

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