Colorado can't beat Winnipeg. Final Score 5-1.
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 19, 2012 8:56 PM MST
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PrintWelp, that didn't go the way the Avalanche wanted to go. The good news: they have a few days to recoup, get their lines together and get the loss behind them.
The First Period
If the first five minutes are any indication Matt Duchene's knee is just fine. The Winnipeg Jets came out fast and hard, and the Colorado Avalanche responded in kind. The period went by very quickly, with very little whistles, the flow was great.
Winnipeg is a loud arena, and Duchene gets booed every time he touches the puck. What did Duchene do to warrant this treatment? Nothing. Unless you count being a great player. The city, somehow, chooses one player as a villain every game. That player then gets booed every time they touch the puck. Tonight, they chose Matt. Perhaps he should consider this a compliment. Another player to have a good first period is Erik Johnson. He gets in the Jets faces, and gets in their way.
With 5:32 seconds left in the first period, Paul Sastny is sent to the Sin Bin for four minutes with a high sticking penalty. During the penalty kill Winnik loses his stick near the Avs bench. When the puck goes a bit deeper in the zone he disappears to get a new twig, and damage is avoided. The Avalanche kill only the double minor easily, only allowing one shot on a four minute penalty kill. With the dying minute and a half of the first, the Avs try to get something going, but run out of time. The game is tied heading into the second.
The Second Period
With a 1:45 expired in the first Evander Kane scores with a quickly released backhander. The Avs are down, 1-0. Just over a minute later the Jets score again. The Avs are down 2-0, and so Sacco uses his timeout. With 13:49 left in the second the Avalanche get to go on a power play when Duchene is hooked. The Avalanche weren't able to convert on this chance. After that power play expires, Daniel Winnik gets hooked and draws a penalty. The Avalanche get some decent chances on this power player, followed by a great chance by Stastny. Unfortunately, he can't find the back of the net. While on the power play, Gabe Landeskog goes short side and and scores to bring the Avalanche within one. This is his second game in a row to notch a power play goal.
Unfortunately, being behind by one only last 45 seconds or so. Kyle Wellwood comes back hard and scores on Semyon Varlamov. The Avs are now down 3-1. Six minutes later, Antropov crashes into the net. Quincey seemed in discomfort due to that action, but didn't miss his next shift. Antropov gets called for interference. They were unable to convert this power play into any damage on the scoreboard. With ten seconds left in the second, Landeskog tries to get something going but was unable to score. Avs go into the third down by two.
The Third Period
The third period doesn't start well for the burgundy and blue, within thirty seconds Duchene puts the Avalanche on a penalty kill. The Avs managed to kill it off. Afterwards, Hejduk gets a great chance - batting a puck mid-air, but Pavelec shows great hand-eye co-ordination and makes the save. Seemingly right after this play Cody McLeod head to the box for holding. The Avalanche aren't able to kill this ones off, Andrew Ladd scores to make the game 4-1.
Almost eight minutes into the third, Shane O'Brien makes a nice, hard, clean hit on Kane. Kane wasn't so happy with the hit. He chased O'Brien down, knocked him over and proceed to hit him, repeatedly, while Shane was down. Kane goes to the box for four minutes. Unfortunately, Quincey gets called for a penalty on the ensuing power play and so the game is played 4-on-4.
Cody McLeod decided that the game is getting chippy, and drops the gloves with Thorburn. Thornburn had received a high stick earlier in the game and so he was bleeding on the bench. McLeod got a seven minute penalty for the fight. Little was able to score during the Avalanche's penalty kill. The Avs go down 5-1 with 4:19 left in the third. They are unable to change the score.
- 1 O'Brien
- 2 Landeskog
- 3 McClement
- 1 Mark Olver - Ryan O`Reilly - Gabriel Landeskog
- 2 Matt Duchene - Paul Stastny - Milan Hejduk
- 3 Daniel Winnik - Jay McClement - David Jones
- 4 Cody McLeod - Kevin Porter - Chuck Kobasew
- 1 This game marked the first time since March 24h, 1996 that the Avalanche played a game in the Peg. The Avalanche won that game 5-2.
- 2 This was the return of Matt Duchene, Matt missed 20 games due to a knee injury.
- 3 The Avalanche have both the fewest time spent and the fewest opportunities on the power play in the NHL. They have only had 2:01 of 5-on-3 this season.
Next game isn't until Wednesday night. The Avalanche will play host to the L.A. Kings.
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That was.... less than outstanding.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
The mutha f-ing sky is falling!!! AAAAAAA!!!!! AAAAAAA!!!!!
Andyray ArlyleCay
by Paul X on Feb 19, 2012 9:00 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
by Americanario on Feb 19, 2012 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
I’m still fuckin pissed thinking about the Kane “fight”
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
I re-wrote that sentence about five times. Because I was mean.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 19, 2012 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
We just need to stay classy. O’Brien isn’t allowed to be the next Bertuzzi.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
That’s fine. But the wording was too close to the Bertuzzi thing. Red flags were going up. I was pretty sure you didn’t mean it like that, but I just wanted to clarify.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
{Sunnyside moment}
EJ at least is on a 4 game point streak!
….yeah, that’s all I got.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Dutch – Radar – Landy could be an amazing line.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Duke – Stazz – Jones is decent.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Should be better…..
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 19, 2012 9:11 PM MST up reply actions
Hopefully the Avs don’t fall too far before he gets back. They need him
I hear that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good
This. He needs to get better soon.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
I love Mueller, but this “He needs to get better soon” has been said for far too long. Guy is constantly injured and if the Avs are looking to him to be their savior, well…they’re just fucked.
The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.
Hes the only option that we have right now, until we get more. As long as hes the only choice, we need him back. Soon. Or else we may as well start selling off extraneous pieces, write off the playoffs, and just let the core guys continue to gel.
Thanks, Joe... Thanks, Peter.... Thanks, Adam....
I’d totally be behind that, but with the Varly trade, we still need to make sure we don’t give them a really high pick.
Still, at this point, being a seller at the deadline may be a good idea. I think that we have a lot of the pieces we need, but there are still a few that we’re missing. There’s no shame in it either – this is only year 3 of the rebuild. I wasn’t exactly expecting us to be here at this point. We’re still doing pretty decent all things considered.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
The pick we traded for Varlamov is gone, no matter where we end up. Sure, I don’t want to give away a high pick, but it really doesn’t matter to us now. We have to do whats best for the team. If we aren’t going to makethe playoffs, then sell the pieces that truely don’t matter (if you can), and start making plans for next year. Get Sherm working on contract extensions. Get Joe and PL to start taking agents to dinner. Start talking to Parkilla and see if he’s interested in coming here. Get Pracey looking at our existing goaltending prospects and make some decisions.
Hopefully, we are already doing all of that stuff.
Thanks, Joe... Thanks, Peter.... Thanks, Adam....
A good goalie coach would be so lovely. While I agree with the philosophy, I don’t think the pieces that the Avs have that don’t matter will garner a high enough return. Quincey might get an ok return if there are more buyers for D.
Galiardi, Quincey, Jones, McLeod are all players I feel won’t be back with the Avs next season.
The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.
I’m of the opinion that if we know they aren’t going to be here next year, even a 7th round pick would be better than letting them walk UFA completely for free.
Of that group, I think the only one the Avs may retain is Gali. He’s not a Top 6er, but I really like him on the 3rd line.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
I like Gali on the 3rd line too, and a 7th round pick isn’t very likely to turn into much. I think the players that hold value that they could sell are more valuable to the team itself for the remainder of the season and preventing Washington from getting a better pick courtesy of the Avs. As far as letting players “walk”, the Avs have mostly RFA’s, the UFA’s they have are guys that aren’t even worth a 7th (McLeod).
The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.
I hope so too. If we can get something for our goalie picks at the deadline, that would be great. And I think the Avs may have to break their rule of signing people during the season. We have SOOOOO many contracts to get through, and if there is any truth to the rumor that the front office may be shaken up this summer, we need to make sure that the big guns are at least locked up and out of the way before the craziness of a regime change.
I’d also like us to get a few more young players and picks at the deadline. Even though that’s slightly Edmontonesque, I think that the biggest difference between our team and theirs is that ours has a plan for what we still need. We’re not simply going BPA!!!!! with all of our picks and trades – there seems to be a method behind the madness.
Even though tonight kinda sucked, I’m still convinced that the Avs are close to being out of this rebuild. We’re missing some critical pieces, but more than anything else, our core just needs experience.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Landy had 9 SOGs. Quincey had 6. O’Brien had 4.
Duchene had 0. Olver 1. Stastny 2. Jones 2.
Thanks, Joe... Thanks, Peter.... Thanks, Adam....
Landy was in beast mode tonight. Too bad he was the only one.
Damn, can we just give him the Calder already? No rookie can mean more to their team than he does to us.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Helps playing with Kovy though…..
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 19, 2012 9:08 PM MST up reply actions
That’s true. But Landy’s leading in a ton of other categories – shots, hits, +/-, TOI (I believe)… basically everywhere but scoring. Henrique will probably be nominated at least. He might even win. But I still think as an overall player, Landy deserves it more.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
I agree and i think if Thor closes the point gap a little more combined with all of the other intangibles you mentioned he should get serious consideration for it.
He’s not that far behind if I’m remembering correctly. One minute – let me go find some stats……
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Landy’s in 4th right now.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Its sad but the Calder is the only realistic race that can be won by the Avs this season. What a punch in the gut.
Actually, I think that Muller has a better chance at winning the Bill Masterton Memorial trophy than Gabe does getting the Calder.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 19, 2012 9:28 PM MST up reply actions
Crosby comes back even once, and there’s no way in hell Crosby won’t win it.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Still think his chances are better than Landy’s. Sadly.
It's all about Winnik
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 19, 2012 9:30 PM MST up reply actions
Okay, so, as of tonight, Landy is:
4th in scoring (33pts, 39 is the lead)
2nd in goals (15, 16 is lead)
2nd in /- (14, +17 is the lead)
8th in overall TOI, 1st in rookie forward TOI (18:25, 22:40 is lead)
I’ll have to look for shots and hits later.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
I’ll have to look for shots and hits later.
Except voters don’t ever look at this…. they see RNH doing all that flashy stuff…. Hodgson on the Canucks, even Henrique on the Devils….
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I’ll have to find the details, but I read an article recently talking about it and how a recent Calder was handed out to a player with a really good +/- in a year where the scoring wasn’t outstanding. The same may happen for Landy.
If nothing else, Landy should at least be nominated.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
I’ll have to look for shots and hits later.
A single girl walks into a cowboy bar in Montana…
Varly!
by niwotsblessing on Feb 19, 2012 9:36 PM MST up reply actions
lol. Oh the truth in that…..
I’m not a big bar-goer though. We have quite a few downtown, but I’ve decided that it’s really not my scene.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
You’re wise beyond your years.
Varly!
by niwotsblessing on Feb 19, 2012 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
I try to be. Sometimes it’s a bit of a curse as I have a difficult time relating to a lot of my peers. But it’s just who I am and I’ve learned how to deal with it.
But honestly, the whole partying thing has never appealed to me. I’m not even a big fan of drinking. I typically don’t get any happy feelings from at least the alcohol I’ve tried, and I hate feeling mentally slow.
The concept of going and getting drunk just so that I can have people I don’t know or like hit or grind on me is actually a little creepy IMO. I have much better things to do, and if I’m going to drink, it’s for taste and not the buzz.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
by andidee15 on Feb 19, 2012 9:42 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Personal integrity is priceless, more valuable than anything you’ll find in a bottle, or a cowboy bar.
Varly!
by niwotsblessing on Feb 19, 2012 9:50 PM MST up reply actions
:) Thanks.
And besides, I’m not even that into cowboys. Unless they play hockey. Then I might consider it.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
But they have Parise and Kovalchuk. I’ve watched him play quite a few times, and he’s important, but he’s rarely the major difference maker on the team. He helps the big guns for sure, but he’s not exactly one himself.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
If only we could clone him like Mr. Fantastic cloned Thor…_(Earth-99062)_0001.jpg)
by quietstorm560 on Feb 19, 2012 11:25 PM MST up reply actions
why did the break up the Olver, O’Reilly, Landy line? I thought they had a lot of chemistry last game. Should have remained with it. …. just my thought
"we cough to clear our throats and sigh to clear our hearts"
That’s the first “adaptation” that Coach likes to do when things don’t go as planned..dismantle his lines…as evidenced by the outcome tonight, it went exactly how it’s always gone prior to tonight’s game…poorly.
by quietstorm560 on Feb 19, 2012 11:31 PM MST up reply actions
it went exactly how it’s always gone
That’s just crap. I’m sorry to be blunt about it, but he has changed lines on the fly with winning (and I mean that literally) results. I will spend some time tomorrow finding evidence of that.
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 20, 2012 12:50 AM MST up reply actions
I’d like to see that…for the sheer fun of knowing you’re surfing interwebs to argue a moot point. I’m wondering what criteria you’ll pull out of your hat to justify your claim over my own. Will you look at numbers featuring the in-game change of lines? Period to period to period stats? Or perhaps the line differences from a game before? Three to four games before? Will it be based on plus/minus? SOG? Actual goals/points scored? Hits? Takeaways? That’s the problem with stats—you can manipulate the exact same numbers to prove the point of one, two, ALL sides of a discussion.
Fact of the matter is that Radar, Skog, and Olver had 1 game together that was successful. Tonight, how long did Coach give them to continue on that path? How long did Coach give them to work out the situation before he simply pulled the plug and did what he always does? Every game he’s shufflin’. When teams figure out his (AHL) scheme, that’s his only adjustment. Say what you will about chemistry, but it’s a legitimate concern. Especially with his track recored in the second halves of seasons.
by quietstorm560 on Feb 20, 2012 2:46 AM MST up reply actions
Other items of criteria: Line changes due to in-game injuries? Line changes due to extended penalties? Line changes due to Coach deeming someone Bernie’s House-worthy?
You still wanna spend that time searching?
by quietstorm560 on Feb 20, 2012 3:20 AM MST up reply actions
Is there a reason you’re being so antagonistic of someone who wants to base her argument on researched facts instead of confirmation bias?
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 20, 2012 7:47 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I simply was proving my point that stats can be manipulated any way you’d like to support one’s argument. I rattled off more variables because that’s exactly what will be the criteria of any stat based claim. I think that Coach’s tinkering may do more harm than good. Can I go surf the net and find numbers to support this? Sure, and she’d be able to find numbers that don’t. But fact is it certainly didn’t help beat the Thrashers last night.
by quietstorm560 on Feb 20, 2012 9:13 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
So your logic is “Why bother having the conversation if we can both find fact to support our opposing views?”
That right there is the key to generating wonderful debate on a fan blog. NOBODY DO ANYTHING!!!!!!
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Ohh, and don’t be a dick.
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by Mike @ MHH on Feb 20, 2012 10:01 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Well unfortunately I don’t have the time to scour the interwebs for the statistical facts to support my claim, so I guess I’m wrong and I lose the argument/debate. Great, now all my credibility here is wiped out and you all will never respect me ever again. (But be honest, it’s not like any of you did in the first place.)
by quietstorm560 on Feb 20, 2012 5:09 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
You didn’t prove any point tbh. You shotgun blasted a barrage of questions, which honestly isn’t all bad, and cheryl may answer some of them
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 20, 2012 10:27 AM MST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
No I won’t. He/she said the point was moot. Why waste my time if he/she doesn’t care about the information I produce?
FWIW, I said very specifically WINNING in my comment. Hence, I was going to identify those games in which he made significant line changes during the 60 minutes of regulation time and make a decision as to whether the team won or lost. I know it’s super easy to manipulate that stat. I mean goals scored for vs. goals scored against is pretty vague stat.
Oh, and Cheryl, don’t be a dick.
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 20, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
Who’s Heshe? I’m sure that’s a digg to rattle me—that’s cool, no problem. I still think you’re a good writer and insightful. I just disagree with you. But clearly the picture representing me has an adam’s apple & I assure I’m no bearded lady.
But in all honesty, this site is too uptight. I suppose the old adage of “It’s the Internet—everything is a blood feud” applies here. I’m gonna do what I always do…blame KSE. Yep, it’s ownership’s fault—AGAIN. Haha.
by quietstorm560 on Feb 20, 2012 5:03 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I have no idea what the hell this comment is about, but I was trying to be respectful as I’ve never been clear if you are a male or a female.
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 20, 2012 8:03 PM MST up reply actions
So the last time you made this statement I pointed out that it’s a fairly common thing for coaches to do but you ignored it so here let me point it out again. This time, it’s that fucking Stanly Cup-winning idiot Claude Julien who changed things up during a game.
The reason it’s so easy to point out when coaches juggle (or “dismantle,” as you so overdramatically put it for a line that had been in existence for a whopping one game) their lines is because IT HAPPENS ALL THE FREAKING TIME.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
Because we’re as talent-laden as Boston is. And experienced to boot! Smooches, DiD!
by quietstorm560 on Feb 20, 2012 4:53 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yes, because Boston is the only team that ever does this.
And poor Olver…instead of getting to play with a rookie and a 3rd-year player, he was forced to play with Stastny and Hejduk!
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
by DiD on Feb 20, 2012 5:03 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought two of the goals scored on the Av’s were EJ’s fault.
backhand to the opposing team
failed block and screen on another…. he didn’t play well at all
"we cough to clear our throats and sigh to clear our hearts"
I thought he was inconsistent tonight. His gaffes were at terrible times, but he was solid at other times too. Not that worried about him.
Stastny on the other hand was a hot mess.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Varlamov with 2 soft goals don’t help either… it’s bad enough if your starter lets in 1 soft goal a game, but 2, you just can’t let in.
GoalieGuild on twitter says the shouldn’t start Varly next game.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
by amit916 on Feb 19, 2012 9:09 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
that I agree with!
Not happy with McNabb blaming “’bad goaltending” - Yes, I love Varly but I don’t think he saw a few of those that went in. Defense had an off game once AGAIN
"we cough to clear our throats and sigh to clear our hearts"
Combination….Varly wasn’t good tonight, defense made some bad mistakes.
Offense only scores 1 again…..
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 19, 2012 9:10 PM MST up reply actions
Yup. They failed like a team.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 19, 2012 11:22 PM MST up reply actions
Varly was bad… the defense was bad too….
It’s be nice if someone on the blueline could play well besides EJ (who himself had an off night…)
We have too many 5-6 guys, and not enough legit top 4 defenseman…
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Funny how, after wins, people are praising the play of Hejda and O’Byrne and Wilson and going on about how we should never trade them because we wouldn’t be able to get their value to the team back….. and then after losses they’re all bums and it’s a long term systemic problem
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Hedja had an off game tonight.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Bad defensive games generally start in the opponents’ end, where our forwards do not go deep into their zone, and lose the puck high, and allow the opposition to fly up the ice, thru the neutral zone. A loss like tonight’s is at least as much on forwards bad attack zone play, as it is on d or goalie.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
Hejda mistake on the first goal, should never let Kane get a shot off.
Not sure what EJ was doing on the second goal, Backhand clears the puck from his crease right to Little.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 19, 2012 9:18 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, Varly never had a chance on the first two, and the second was the game winner. 3rd goal was a freak bounce too off the end boards. Which goals were “soft” on Varly’s part?
Varly!
by niwotsblessing on Feb 19, 2012 9:22 PM MST up reply actions
I still think he needs to find a way to stop those goals. Can’t completely blame him, but you need him to find a way. The Kane goal, the Ladd goal, even the Wellwood goal off the bounce off the boards; some how he has to find a way.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 19, 2012 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
A true number one goalie makes saves like that… he keeps you in games and he doesn’t allow those backbreaking goals… Varly’s has more off games lately than good ones…
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
by amit916 on Feb 19, 2012 9:26 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t know that any goalie in the league could have stopped the first 3 goals. The first goal Varly was screened by a Peg player and Hejda allowed Kane to skate unhindered in the low slot. Second goal Johnson puts the puck on someone’s stick and even Varly, quick as he is, had no chance. Third goal he played the puck as it went behind him to the right and suddenly it was on the left side of the net, a player was there and the puck was in. Saying a true number one goalie makes those saves is meaningless.
Varly!
by niwotsblessing on Feb 19, 2012 9:31 PM MST up reply actions
Did I say the first two goals were stoppable? Why don’t you NOT put words in my mouth.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
You said a “true #1 makes those saves.” Were you talking about other goals, cuz everybody else was talking about the first three.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Yes, I was talking about other goals, I have already mentioned them in the GDT… the 3rd and 4th… the 3rd especially… 40 seconds after you’re team claws it’s way back into the game with a dominating puck possession and your goalie blows it away because, and these are Varly’s words “I was too slow…”
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I’d say Varly had a chance on the second one. It’s not a save I’d expect him to make, but it isn’t unsaveable (but is also still more on EJ for trying a clear+flyby). The third, the fourth, he lost track of the puck somehow. I barely saw the fifth.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
I thought he played well in his last 4 or 5 games. He hasn’t gotten any goal support except in the EDM game. Last night wasn’t good. It wasn’t horrible but how about instead of “he needs to find a way to stop those” we lay even blame on EJ for making a beauty of a no-look to little and for everybody in white stopping to watch the flying puck instead of letting Wellwood corral the pop-fly? Why is the guy who has his back to the play and is hunting the puck the guy to absorb all the blame on that one?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Funny how, after wins, people are praising the play of Hejda and O’Byrne and Wilson and going on about how we should never trade them
I don’t know if this is aimed at me… but it sounds like it is….
I’ve never once thought of anyone of our defenseman save for EJ and Hejda as top 4 pairings… at best, we have guys that can play limited 4th defenseman numbers… but that’s about it.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
This Avs team is not the same one from last year so don’t get used to seeing games like that. We’re not gonna disappoint you guys again
I wish it weren’t so….
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
i kind of want to find the original tweet of this and retweet it back at all the avs players. maybe its just my awful day making me think this way.
Do you really think they play like the early-'11 Avs?
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 19, 2012 11:24 PM MST up reply actions
What? I don't care about the Nuggets?
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
I hate when they do this…..if I gave a shit about the Thuggets, I would watch the Thuggets.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 19, 2012 9:07 PM MST up reply actions
What a pathetic effort. Sacco is not the coach for this team I really hope they get rid of him, oh and an owner who cares and knows something about Hockey would be nice too. And Kane you’re a pansy it takes a real tough guy to do what you did. Next time take your medicine like a man and keep your head up. Of course the Avs didn’t make him pay for that chickensh*t.
Careful, there are a few folks around here who think Sacco is the second coming of Scotty Bowman.
#firesacco
Varly!
by niwotsblessing on Feb 19, 2012 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
lol
I’m willing to bet some real bucks that no one around here thinks that.
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 20, 2012 12:53 AM MST up reply actions
That's dumb. Sacco is the perfect coach for a young team. If there's one team he fits on, it's the Avs.
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The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 19, 2012 11:26 PM MST up reply actions
Kiss my ass.
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The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 19, 2012 11:34 PM MST up reply actions
I think Sacco has done a fine job with the club this year. I also believe he deserves at least a 1 year if not a 2 year extension.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 20, 2012 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
I think Saccohas done a fine job with the club this yearis the greatest coach to have ever lived!.
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fixed. I mean, that is what you’re really saying, right? Apparently some folks around here think it is.
Oh and Cheryl, don’t be a dick.
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 20, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
you are have currently reached full dick mode
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 20, 2012 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
You know I wasn’t directing that full dick mode at you, right? You were just the vehicle with which I was being a dick to other people.
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 20, 2012 12:49 PM MST up reply actions
A dick-mobile, as it were.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
by Mike @ MHH on Feb 20, 2012 12:57 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
this actually made me laugh.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 20, 2012 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
haha of course I know, and my statement was purely observational.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 20, 2012 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
Bubs says:
Your face is observational.
In other words, hearts and giggles. xoxoxo
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 20, 2012 8:06 PM MST up reply actions
<3
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 20, 2012 9:27 PM MST up reply actions
Garbage.
The team as a whole sucked. Not on one player. They all shit the bed.
Also, Evander Kane is a chump.
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Thanks Rycroft ...
“I don’t think Varly was that bad”
"we cough to clear our throats and sigh to clear our hearts"
Well the Ladd goal looked like it deflected off of Johnson…..
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 19, 2012 9:23 PM MST up reply actions
Wellwood goal was a freaky bounce, Ladd’s goal went through a tiny opening and Johnson may have screened Varly.
Varly!
by niwotsblessing on Feb 19, 2012 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
The first goal by Litte, Johnson pass the puck behind himself (out of the crease) right to Little…not sure what he was thinking there.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 19, 2012 9:26 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe some indecision on EJ’s part, he probably would not have touched the puck, if he had a do over. It happens.
The Wellwood goal was caused by a poor Avs offensive zone pass back to the Colorado d…it never got back to the blue line and the Jets had a 3 on 2 clean breakout through the neutral zone. The first hard shot hit the glass behind Varly and took a crazy bounce to the right side of the net, where Wellwood cleaned up. It wasn’t on Varly.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
Crazy bounces are not on the goalie.
Varly!
by niwotsblessing on Feb 19, 2012 9:37 PM MST up reply actions
He was on the post, the right post where the initial shot was taken. No you want him to grow eyes in the back of his head so that he can account for an offensive player behind him that NOBODY on his team thought was worth checking?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
No he doesn’t need to grow eyes in the back of his head at all. Maybe he could try something like turn his head to the left and look over his shoulder. You know, like what they teach 4 years olds on their first day of learning how to be a goalie.
You know a ton of 4-year-old goalies? The shot was taken over the crossbar and right side of the net, he tracked it, lost it on the crazy bounce, realized too late that it went the other way and slid over to his left post but Wellwood was already camped out and eating a Snickers.
Why is it so imperative that he shoulder the blame for this weird play? Why was Wellwood given free reign on that play? Where was the D?
I have no problem laying shit at Varly’s feet but there is plenty of shit to spread around on that play.
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IMO it wasn’t a weird play but a routine bankshot that he was slow to react on. Had the puck hit the glass and bounced back to the right side of the net, then i would agree on it being a crazy bounce. As a routine bankshot he should have turned to his left and looked over his shoulder and reacted by pushing off his right leg. Wellwood was his only threat if he read the shot properly to begin with. If it makes you feel better then assign 75% of the blame on Varly.
I watched the replay for the first time, well over 24 hours after the game, and that was not a routine bankshot off the glass, as Kane’s shot should have come straight back or to Varly’s right side. If you watch the replay, closer, you will see the puck hit on the seam of the glass, which caused it to flip to Varly’s left. The other thing is you can see is David Jones, who made the original shit pass that caused the Jets breakout, gliding and pretty much stopping, when he could have gone straight toward Wellwood and tied him up. There are four Avs to the right side of Varly and Wellwood alone, to Varly’s left side, at the moment the goal is scored. I don’t know what your beef on Varly is, but this goal isn’t just on him. No fucking way, and if it makes you feel better, 75% on Jones and a weird deflection off the seam.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
Looked like he was trying to clear it away from the net but did not know there was a guy behind him, wasn’t a strong clear and we saw the result. Otherwise I thought Johnson played really well, the rest of the defense sucked, Quincey in particular.
Varly!
by niwotsblessing on Feb 19, 2012 9:33 PM MST up reply actions
It was a power play goal, and there was confusion as EJ also misses a clear cut block. I didn’t think it was a good play by Varly, but pp+EJ made it a more difficult stop than you make it sound.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
Varly’s biggest assets are his reflexes and side-to side movements. On the both those goals he was slow to react and didn’t seem to read either play very well.
You’re discounting how poorly the team played in front of him on those goals. That Wellwood goal doesn’t even begin to happen if the forwards do not throw out a piss poor pass to the d man, that gets easily picked off, and turned into a free the prisoners counter attack through the neutral zone. Varly’s got the Jets hauling ass toward him, and the first shot is an open slapper from the area top of the circles, on a hard rush. He has to move right as the attempt is coming to that side, the puck hits off the glass on a bad bounce to Wellwood. Varly had no idea where that puck was. Because the forwards were caught so low in the Jets’ zone, they couldn’t get back to prevent Wellwood from tapping in. If that play was slow to develop, someone should have been able to tie up Wellwood. But it was a bang bang play, and not Varly’s fault.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
I’ve watched both those goals over and over and I stand by what I said. It’s Varly’s responsibility to have his head on a swivel, find the puck, and protect the post. He failed on those 2 goals. On this I guess we just agree to disagree.
Well, just one more thing. On the Wellwood goal. The angle and speed of the first shot puck says to Varly the puck will come straight back, into the back area of the net, or carom along the boards. It didn’t. It popped up. There is a hesitation on his part because he doesn’t know where the puck is. You are expecting him to know where the puck is when it takes a bounce that defies logic, and although there is a physical reason, like an aberration in the glass or a chip in the puck or something, the odds say the puck will not pop up and land to the front side of the net. Reaction by Varly is based on what his body says to do, and in that instant, it says he has to know where the puck is, before he moves. The logical areas of where the puck should be did not happen, and that likely caused hesitation on Varly’s movement. In this case the guy who had the best view of the puck, Wellwood, was lucky enough to have it fall at his feet. This is why a freaky bounce is not the goalie’s fault.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
Kane’s shot was coming in on an angle, hit the glass, and dropped on the side it should have dropped on (left-to-right). Think of an up-side-down V and that was the path of the puck. The glass deadened the puck but the puck still followed its true path. There wasn’t a freaky bounce at all, thus the player masquerading as a Goalie was at fault.
Varlamov's own words on the Wellwood goal.
“That play, I was slow and didn’t see the puck that well, so I think that’s my (fault),” Varlamov said.
Varly’s pretty much saying he lost the puck, likely because the puck didn’t bounce as he thought it would, and it made him hesitate, so he wasn’t able to get back to the post. He’s taking responsibility, but if I’m a forward who made that shitty pass, after a time out Sacco called, almost assuredly getting pissed off at the forwards for letting Winnipeg run rampant through the neutral zone, with piss poor play in the oppositions end, I wouldn’t let Varly take the blame on that one.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
You know I like Varly and think positively on the trade, but girl, he was so off tonight. He looked shaky, seemed to have little confidence, and wasn’t as quick as usual. He was no better (and no worse) than most of the team.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 20, 2012 12:55 AM MST up reply actions
And now for another segment of post-defeat, in-a-panic Avalanche options:
A. Stop playing musical lines
B. Trade for first round draft pick
C. Trade for player(s)
D. Hope cloning makes rapid advancements and send Landy straight to the scientists
E. Finish a game of RISK (dunno bout you guys, I’ve never…)
F. Fire Sacco, hire Conan O’Brien
G: Admit that writing more of these is wasting valuable sleep time
H: Goodnight!
Meow-valanche. Prrr-valanche.
by Sean Harsha on Feb 19, 2012 9:22 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
This team doesn’t have a guy that can fetch a 1st rounder… that people would want to give away. (it wouldn’t be worth it…. unless Quincey has pictures.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Love how this upcoming draft went from being regarded as one of the deepest ever to a draft that’s as supposedly weak as last years.
The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.
They were saying it is weaker now because of a ton of injuries to the top prospects
by GregDaybreak on Feb 19, 2012 9:35 PM MST up reply actions
I realize that. I’ve followed it. I just find it quite humorous is all. Just because there’s an injury doesn’t mean talent disappears. All it means is good players can fall a few spots. Which is possible the Avs may find a gem in the 2nd round. They’ve been pretty good with 2nd round picks.
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I almost wouldn’t mind getting a few more 2nds to let Pracey work his magic.
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This is why the value of future assets is a mirage.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 19, 2012 11:32 PM MST up reply actions
Rec.
"Noooo!!!" - Referee, Oilers @ Avs, 26.11.2011
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 19, 2012 11:29 PM MST up reply actions
Send Him Too Lake Earie
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 20, 2012 10:43 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Don't Blame Varlamov.
This was a team loss tonight. I don’t want to read over the next couple of days how terrible Varly is. It certainly was not his best effort, but my goodness, the rest of the team was downright awful as well. I think this game makes the Avs sellers. 2 points back of 13th in the west with having played 1 more game. I just don’t see the Avs overcoming all of those other teams. Here is my recap of tonight’s game: http://avshockeyblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/game-60-avs-jets-duchene-returns-in-blowout-loss/
Defend him all you want,
but we once again outshot our opponent and had no chance to win at the end in a Varly start. That barely ever happens to good goalies. It’s happened a lot for Varlamov. And those were not great goals that went in tonight. He’s not stopping enough pucks. I like him, but come on. He deserves a fair share of blame.
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by airforcefoo on Feb 19, 2012 10:41 PM MST up reply actions
1 goal of support had nothing to do with why they weren’t in the end of that game of course
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Of course,
but Pavelec stops 31 of 32 and Varly lets in 5 of 25, including three softies. It’s hard to not point to that being a huge part of the difference in the game.
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by airforcefoo on Feb 19, 2012 10:50 PM MST up reply actions
lol
Varly could have saved 61 of 63. They’d still have lost.
Come back with better logic.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 19, 2012 11:33 PM MST up reply actions
thats not necessarily true. Say VArly saves the 3rd goal and the game is very different, maybe then the Avs are pressing, pushing the offense instead of discouraged at giving up a goal only moments after scoring.
In theory no, Varly making 1 or 2 more saves wouldnt help.
In practice yes, J.S. Giguere wins games for the Avs not only because he stops MORE pucks, but mostly because the stops the most important one. That 3rd goal on Varly is a time when Giguere comes up with a big and timely save. Its a skill that comes with age in goaltending, and one Varly does not have yet
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 19, 2012 11:48 PM MST up reply actions
Its a skill that comes with age in goaltending, and one Varly does not have yet
And with working with a full-time goalie coach.
by quietstorm560 on Feb 19, 2012 11:50 PM MST up reply actions
uhhhh no evidence for that really
its an experience thing, i suppose a goalie coach could help with that, but it seems to me like something you just develop over time
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 20, 2012 12:04 AM MST up reply actions
Brian Elliott gives almost all of his turnaround this year to having a full time goalie coach working with him on a consistent basis. Since he leads the league in Save % and has much of the year, I might take that as a point in favor of having a full time goalie coach
You could say…but yeah the Blues are in 100% defense first mode since Hitchcock took over. But Elliott was doing this before he came in as well
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Again full-time goalie coach is voodoo that this team scoffs at as superstitious poppycock. Ownership doesn’t deserve this franchise.
by quietstorm560 on Feb 20, 2012 9:17 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Did you see a ton of “GIVE UP” after the third goal? Cuz I didn’t. I saw a bunch of stupid fucking penalties, but I suppose that’s on Varly too. The entire team (Varly included) played like frozen shit on ice. Where was the Suddenly I Give a Shit Jones? Where was Radar Our Savior? Why was EJ setting up the other teams best center? Why was SoS carving up dude’s face? Did Wilson dress in this game cuz I sure as shit didn’t see him answering the Jets’ physical play. Was Quincey giving birth or was it really that laborious to skate from his net down to the o-zone on the PP?
They suck. They aren’t a playoff team so looking for a tonic of coaching, one bad goalie, or a miracle-if-he’s-not-really-concussed return from Darth Mueller and He just got his knee back Duchene won’t change any of that.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Scoring effect on the outshooting. Do we need to cover this again?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
get your logic outta here
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 20, 2012 10:13 AM MST up reply actions
No, I get it
All I’m saying is an .800 S% is dog shit and three of those goals would have been stopped by an NHL goalie having a decent night. The Jets were not that good, and the play was not that bad in front of him (aside from Johnson centering the puck for the other team).
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In addition,
We were actually outshot in the third, when you expect the team from behind to be shooting more.
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Hey the ghost of Ken Dryden could have stopped those three goals and the Avs would still have lost 2-1. The Jets have been beasts at home this season, they’ve been on a roll lately, and the play in front of Varly WAS pretty bad last night, IMO.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Ken Dryden called.
He’d like to remind you that he’s alive and well and enjoying his Parliamentary pension.
Oh, and yes, he could have stopped those 3 goals.
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I know Kenny D is still kicking it. But since he’s a politician, we all know he has no soul and therefore his ghost is available for backup duties on mediocre NHL clubs.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
*sigh
Bad one tonight, hopefully they turn it around monday. I still see us in the 9-10 slot
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 19, 2012 10:58 PM MST reply actions
That 3rd goal marked the first time in at least a year that I've lost my cool following a GA.
Talk about kicking the wind out of one’s stomach. The two periods I saw, save the brief “comeback” bid, were thoroughly disappointing.
I have to say Johnson was a total… badass… on Landy’s goal. I haven’t seen it mentioned much, but he single-handedly created that scoring chance, by warding off two Jets in the Avs zone, taking the puck out, and barreling into a couple defenders as he passed to a streaking Landy. Gabriel got a good shoot off, and did well to get into the right spot at the right time, but the rest was all Erik.
I’m becoming more and more confident that when Johnson goes into a corner, more often than not, he’s coming out with the puck.
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The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 19, 2012 11:16 PM MST reply actions
The unfortunate thing is that EJ was an absolute badass on the Jets second goal with a sweet blind backhand pass to Little. But the assist on Landy’s goal made up for it.
You know, that sarcasm is useless when comparing those two goals is a nonsensical practice.
Error =/= good play. The talent that goes into both is very different.
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The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 19, 2012 11:28 PM MST up reply actions
EJ just seems so confident as of late. His game has drastically simplified and he’s not trying to do everything at once anymore. He still has his occasional bad turnover, but those are becoming fewer and farther between. As a result, he’s been incredible defensively and has started to add the offense back in – he’s on a 4 game point streak right now. He’s starting to use both his big frame and strength with his sick hands (at least for a defenseman) when obtaining and maintaining possession, and he’s been making pretty good choices away from the puck as well. He’s really starting to become a true #1 franchise defenseman.
I think that part of the reason he’s been playing so well over the last 30 games is that this is the first time in his pro career that he’s not had an overwhelming amount of pressure on him. Between the expectations of being a first overall, the after-effects of the golf-cart injury, the premature labeling as being a “bust”, and having an A slapped on his chest at 22, his time in St. Louis probably wasn’t a cakewalk by any means. When he finally escaped and came here, he was the cornerstone of one of the largest trades of the year, toted as our future franchise defenseman and face of the franchise, considered for the Captaincy, given one of the rotating As, and expected to play like a vet when he didn’t have any chemistry with his defensive partner. That’s a heck of a lot of pressure to face before you turn 24.
I don’t think he cracks under pressure – I just think he over-thinks it. He was trying so hard to be everything to everyone that he ended up biting off more than he could chew. But ever since Hejduk was given the C, EJ seems to have relaxed and gotten back to the basics. Maybe it was coaching, or maybe it was just some internal switch that flipped in his brain when he was out with that groin injury at the beginning of the year, but whatever the case, it seems to have worked since EJ is playing some of the best hockey he ever has.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
He was trying so hard to be everything to everyone that he ended up biting off more than he could chew.
Mostly because the entire team decided to go from Edmonton straight to Denver.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
In terms of my neighbors from the east.
Losing to the Peg/thrasher, I imagine would be like kissing a cousin. Its just wrong and you feel completely violated.
Thought you were a huge Duchene fan. You didn’t want to see his comeback game? (You didn’t miss much from Matt, although he did manage to pull off the rare spin-at-the-red-line-and-dump-the-puck-in move, thus adding to his repertoire of spinny goodness.)
Just curious (since you brought it up). Why watch an episode of the Wire that you could theoretically watch any time instead of watching the Avs live? Were the DVDs due back at the library today or something?
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
So glad I accidentally saw the score on DGB. It’s saved me from wasting my time. How did McLeod get seven minutes of penalty time? Five for fighting + 2 for instigating? Unsportsmanlike conduct?
"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin
+2 for interference.
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So lets sum up:
Avs get Duchene back…still have next to zero real offense, despite once again outshooting an opponent (must be that hot goalie thing again right?). Varly has three really strong games in a row, then basically wets the bed…along with the whole team, in a team dubbed “must win” game.
If I’m the Avs I thank the good lord this Winnipeg team isn’t in the West next year. 0-2, outscored 9-2. Just rename them the Flames or Canucks, and we are good to go
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
In Pavelecs defense, he had some amazing saves and robbed us numerous times.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 20, 2012 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
It does not seem like it is a happy monday in here, even though it’s Family Day/Presidents Day
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
happy Monday???
Seems like lately most the threads have taken a somewhat nasty tone. Its hard sometimes to distinguish some good natured ball busting between friends from the more angry(?) posts, but clearly the heat level has increased of late. Disagree without being disagreeable??
haha, Last nights GDT was pretty good, even though we lost. You definitely see a bigger correlation of bickering and trolling after a loss than you do a win.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 20, 2012 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
Hang correlation. I’d call that one causal.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 20, 2012 10:45 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
When other teams look at last night’s final score, and see game highlights, their level of overconfidence going into games against the A will be through the roof. Which plays perfectly into our master plan! Our record from here on out will be incredible. I think we’re still looking at a top 4 seed.
The Colorado Avalanche: 2012 Cup Champions Until They Ain't!
by burgundyRainbow on Feb 20, 2012 11:00 AM MST reply actions
Kane sucker punch, glove on or off?
Didn’t see the game and I am curious before I comment further…
by Mapletreemarty on Feb 20, 2012 11:19 AM MST reply actions
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