3 Trades that make the Avalanche Better Now and Later

My thoughts

No
Yes
No.

Jack Johnson sucks. Also, so does Dustin Penner

With that out of the way, I will now actually read the article……

Well, those look all fine and dandy, but good freakin’ luck getting LA, SJ, and STL to go for them.

With the LA trade, we’d be extremely lucky to even get Bernier + 3rd for Stastny and O’Brien, let alone everyone else. Stastny’s value is low right now due to his second consecutive off season and huge contract, and while I love O’Brien, he’s not going to bring back all that much especially since he’s a UFA this summer. Besides, why would we want another goalie? We have a ton coming up in the system, and bringing in someone like Bernier would completely block them out. And as for the Columbus and Steve Mason comment – the reason Columbus wants another goalie is because Steve Mason is not very good. He has a 3.46 GAA and a .886 Sv%. Yes, he’s not playing behind the best defense in the world, but those numbers are even worse than both Elliott and Budaj’s numbers from last year (3.83GAA and .891 Sv% for Elliott and 3.20GAA & .895 Sv% for Budaj). We already have Varly – we don’t need Bernier.

LA is also set down the middle. They have Anze Kopitar and Mike Richards as centers. Stastny would become extremely redundant, especially after they just acquired Richards this summer in a more blockbuster-y trade than the EJ one.

Also….

A scoring left winger, which I fully believe Dustin Penner would return to out of the pressure of LA, an extremely talented team that needs to win a Cup soon.

Why would we want him if the reason they’re trading him is because they’re a talented team under pressure to win a Cup soon? WE want to be a talented team under pressure to win a Cup soon! Besides, he’s only broken the 60 pt. mark once, and currently has 13 pts in 68 games. I’m just not sure he’s the answer to our Top 6 scoring woes, especially if we’re getting rid of our top playmaking center.

Now, looking at the Sharks trade, why on EARTH would SJ want to move Pavelski? He’s their fourth leading scorer with 45pts in 57 games. He’s also a member of their core – a core that is currently a competitor for the Stanley Cup (choking non-withstanding). He’s under contract for another two years at $4 mil (a very reasonable price for someone at that production level).

Besides, why exactly would they want Jiggy and Winnik? They have Niemi and Greiss, both of whom are doing just fine (Niemi: 2.44GAA .914Sv ; Greiss: 2.13GAA .923 Sv). Niemi can be hot and cold, yes, but so can Jiggy. They’re goalies and by definition not consistent. Besides, chances are actually pretty good that Jiggy will retire here – he already has his Cup ring, and remember, he chose Denver, not the other way around. He seems content in the mentor role and likes living in the Mile High City. Sure, we might move him if the trade is right, but I don’t think SJ is the right partner for that. I suppose they could use Winnik on the PK (it’s currently at 78.4% for SJ), but Winnik is one of the biggest reasons why OUR PK is doing so well. I firmly believe that he is a part of this rebuild, and while he’s not untouchable, he’s a player I’d be VERY reluctant to move.

And as for St. Louis? Yes, that trade is pretty close in value right now, but I’m not 100% sure that Stewart back in a unipron is a good thing. Would he help us skills-wise? Yes. But given his Wolski-ing and the fact that the organization made it pretty darn clear that they didn’t see him in the long-term plans of this franchise by trading him in the first place, I don’t think it’s going to happen. That bridge is probably burnt. Besides, there are much better options than Chris Stewart out there.

These types of trades might fly on NHL ‘12, but I highly doubt you’d get the other team’s GM’s to buy into them in real life. They’re fun to think about, but highly unlikely.

I think all three are pipe dreams. The first two are trades into the Pacific Division. Eventually the Avs will be in this division and the trade partners are unlikely.

Getting Stewart back is foolish, in my opinion. He doesn’t fit the Blues new possession offense, and neither does Jones. Jones is surplus because he doesn’t fit the Avs new possession offense, and neither will Stewart. Bad fit on both sides.

No way in hell any of those happen.

1: No to J.J. and Penner…just no. Penner is terrible and J.J. is overrated. Also, no use for Bernier. This team paid dearly for Varly and they’ll stick with him.
2: Not happening. Aging vet back up goalie and bottom 6 player for a top 6er? Wishful thinking.
3: Not only no but hell no, Stewart bridge is burned. He doesn’t want to come back to this franchise end of story.

Man, if the Avs got Pavelski for an aging Giguere…I can’t even finish that sentence.

is there any pressure in LA?

I know these are all pipedreams, but who would have thought Jeff carter and Mike Richards would move? Or even Erik Johnson and Chris Stewart?

The Sharks and Kings are desperate to win a Cup…and I wouldn’t be shocked if any of these happen

If Bernier did come to Colorado,

then Varly and Aitokallio are expendable, with Bernier and Pickard being the 2 goalies next year.

Niemi has already proven that he can win a cup. Sure, he may have no had the best goaltender stats in the playoffs, but he has still won a cup. San Jose needs their players to step up to win, not a new goalie.

It hurt, but nonetheless
what do people think of Van Riemsdyk? Big ass winger, which is what we need (and Staz needs)…

I want nothing to do with Penner. Darryl Sutter just recently called him horseshit.
For a team (LA) that can’t score goals, the fact that he’s on a “game-to-game” basis right now because he’s awful defensively and out of shape, it’s not about where he is playing, it’s his play.

as far as me pulling the trigger on the deals if im the Avs GM…. reverse those if im the other teams GM. And LA still probably would say no. They could get a better forward than Stats for Bernier.

I love the Pavelskie trade, just don’t see San Jose biting on that. You’d have to give them more. The Avs should wait and see who loses out on Nash and what they offer Buffalo for Roy. You maybe be able to get the same, if not better package for Stats, than Buffalo would Roy so I would wait and see on that and then strike a deal if one could be made… Not saying bring Roy into Colorado… him being a center doesn’t make much sense unless you convert him or Duchy to wing. Thats just IMO

I’d rather Clowe than Pavelski

All of these are pie in the sky. Not HoF board proposals, but not good. There is no way that any of these trades go through unless Sherman can blackmail these GM’s into doing so.

Sorry.