Kings at Avalanche Preview: The Clock is Ticking
by Brett Shumway on Feb 22, 2012 7:00 AM MST
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I guess Kyle Quincey didn't want to play against his former team and decided instead to play for his former former team. Oh well. Enter Steve Downie. Welcome to life under the the cap floor Steve! We hope you like it here in the cellar. The summers are nice and (unfortunately) long.
The Kings are coming to town to finish off the back half of a back-to-back set. They played Phoenix last night and lost in a shootout. Joy! Another 3 point game! Both teams are in direct competition with the Avs for the bottom playoff spots and the Avs seriously need to grind out 2 points tonight in regulation or they slip further out of the running for worst of the best and miss the post season for the second year in a row. If the boys in burgundy are ever going to step up and prove they are not basement dwellers, we'd like to officially invite them to do so this evening.
Luckily the Avs have enjoyed success at the expense of the under-performing squad from Los Angeles, winning all 3 games this season by a combined score of 8-4. Semyon Varlamov won the first two contests, while Jiggy picked up the 'W' in the last meeting. This will be the final match up between the clubs this season.
The good news continues as it sounds like Giguere should be back to playing back-up tonight. The game will be televised on NBCSN. Go Avs.
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After reading the hockey analysis and subsequently the Pension Plan Puppets article about Downie, I understand why they came over and trolled yesterday: jealousy.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Dude! Don’t you know that the Avs, who are an insurmountable three points behind Toronto, are just a losing streak away from giving up the best draft pick ever?
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
I am an idiot. I barely watch hockey.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
You can’t spell great without regression.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Body Car and Grooming
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The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.
A Date With Your Family
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THYVh9AhtLk
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I like this one.
The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.
It’s my favorite.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
The one I posted is about to be mine. It’s hilarious.
The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.
I dunno, Keeping Neat and Clean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRB3xDg5pnU
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Damn, Trumpy is EVIL!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dgSoYFz1U0
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These people remind me of the Kings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kat4uFMJ8Iw
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
HIRED!!!
We hope you will buy your next 10 cars from us…“10 CARS!”
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I'm Rowsdower...Zach Rowsdower
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6OPyfQxwDM
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You guys suck…..the whole thread is videos and I can’t watch them at work.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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I watched the Wayne's World one last night and laughed my ass off.
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 7:36 AM MST up reply actions
You’d better find that ass, need to make sure the cupcakes are balanced.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 22, 2012 7:39 AM MST up reply actions
No worries, I got it back.
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 7:41 AM MST up reply actions
No worries, I gotitback.
FTFY
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you can't deny
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 4:30 PM MST up reply actions
Let me give you a taste of what’s in there. Ahem…
“I wish was blowing up Prince Edward Island, and going on to bomb Ontarioooooo,
The destruction of Canada and all of its culture, Is by far my fav-o-rite scenario!”
“Just where the hell does Canada get off sharing a border, with countries far superior to itttttttt.
You lousy stinking francophonic bacon loving bastard, your country’s just a giant piece of sh……..”
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
by c6hor8 on Feb 22, 2012 7:43 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Switch a few words and it sounds like Hab fans raking their coach over the coals
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7ccsSXiqs4&feature=related
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I’m employed, but can watch all the same
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in the same boat here. will have to look at them later too. :)
"we cough to clear our throats and sigh to clear our hearts"
I work for a school district and we all know teachers can’t be trusted, so they block everything.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 22, 2012 8:26 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, I can imagine they do.
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 8:28 AM MST up reply actions
sorry canary but having done IT for a school teachers are close to the worst about breaking computers doing things they shouldnt
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by Freakoffaleash on Feb 22, 2012 9:00 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
must. win.
maybe
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 8:10 AM MST reply actions
Regulation win = Two points out
I hear that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good
by patrit19 on Feb 22, 2012 1:41 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
regulation loss=6 pts out.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, so as its been said before, huge game. Will determine whether they buy or sell
I hear that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good
by patrit19 on Feb 22, 2012 1:57 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Local sports radio is blowing up over this ...
Actually, I heard the morning DJ on 107.9 (classic rock) talk about it the Quincey trade, but I guess Tebow sneezed or something so the actual sports stations have a full day of coverage on that planned.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
Well, I keep hearing about “Downie is now an Avalanche” and as an after thought…. oh, yeah, Avs gave up Quincey for him.
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 8:25 AM MST up reply actions
Downie was the feature player in the initial trade article on NHL.com too
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:10 AM MST up reply actions
I despise our local radio talk. Avs draw as well as the Nuggets, have better hockey TV ratings that basketball but all I hear all damn day if it’s not Broncos…is Nuggets. Rockies will start up here soon and all we will hear about is the #5 starter in the rotation etc… Those guys in local radio wouldn’t know Ryan O’Reilly if he walked in to the room and sat down next to them.
I'll keep this brief.
To be fair
the battle for the number 5 starter this year is totally fascinating with like 8 guys in play.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:36 PM MST up reply actions
If I were the Hulk and I’m not saying I’m not. My iris’ would be outlined in green right now.
I'll keep this brief.
You know Banner and the Hulk have been split apart now? That seem weird to anybody else? Also Betty Ross is smoking hot red She-Hulk too. Comics…
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
The fuck
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
pictures or it didn’t happen.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Glad to see She Hulk with multiple wet suit outfits. She even highlights her hair. Seems like a sweet girl.
I'll keep this brief.
It’s Betty Ross. She is a sweet girl. She also carries a huge sword which she refers to as “My big-ass sword”.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Looks like she’s in to asphixiation. Kind of kinky.
BTW, that artist is a little too Rob Liefeld-ish for my tasts. DO NOT DRAW FEET WHATEVER YOU DO!
I'll keep this brief.
Better?
The Defenders book is a little uneven at the start, but it’s been a good read so far.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Better. Silver Surfer and She Hulk have the exact same face. But at least there’s an artistic effort there. Better than this crap:
I'll keep this brief.
Silver Surfer *swoon
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
Did the Sub-Mariner get younger or is he dying his hair these days?
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
It’s the sliding timeline in Marvel. Cap wasn’t unfrozen in the 60’s, he was unfrozen a few years ago. Tony didn’t build his first armor in a POW camp in southeast asia, it was a cave in the Middle East, Reed Richards wasn’t trying to get in on the original space race, he was in it for the commercial dollars of today, and Xavier didn’t recruit the Uncanny X-men to rescue the originals until AFTER an entirely different team with Cyclop’s other, OTHER brother on it got wiped out. Also, he tried to kill his twin in the womb.
COMICS EVERYBODY!
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
My brain’s too small, I can’t keep up with all that crazy alternative universe stuff.
That dude on the left looks like Space Ghost, only with a bulge.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
Don’t forget that the forgotten Summer brother then proceded to take over all of the galaxy.
Peter McNabb thinks I'm outstanding.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 4:07 PM MST up reply actions
It’s kind of funny now, and maybe this is some sort of cognitive dissonance blended with comforting forgetfulness, but when Dater said he doesn’t remember saying “great game by Quincey” I agree. I remember one very good play Quincey made this year. That’s it.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
But his hit on Stamkos… wait, wasn’t Downie supposed to protect Stamkos? LOL
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 8:29 AM MST up reply actions
When you say about Downie protecting Stamkos, I have this vision of Downie jumping into the line of fire and pushing Stamkos out of the way a la secret service agents. :)
"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin
Screaming "nnnnooooooooooooooo"?
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 8:43 AM MST up reply actions
Well, now he’ll have Mueller to protect like that. Lots of chances to prefect his “nnnooooooooo!” scream.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
So, yeah, just realized that was Whitney Houston in that movie. This comment has nothing to do with her. Don’t be offended.
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I’m offended, but not because of anything having to do with Whitney Houston.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 22, 2012 8:53 AM MST up reply actions
Doesn’t matter, Dolly Parton wrote the song anyway
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It’s actually a Dolly Parton remake, what? I used to DJ, I got asked for that song all the fraking time at weddings.
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 9:05 AM MST up reply actions
The original song is from the movie The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas
When hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there, too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
Really?
I like the Dolly Parton quote:
“It takes a lot of money to look as cheap as this”
"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin
by Nemesis44UK on Feb 22, 2012 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
My favorite Parton quote:
“Nobody notices I have a great ass too!”
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
"It takes a lot of money to look as cheap as this"
Dolly was a hipster before it was cool to be a hipster.
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Oh, the irony.
Sherman, set the WABAC machine to 1995. We'll bring back Sakic and Forsberg in their primes!
by Busted Twigg on Feb 22, 2012 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
LOL
Really? But, that’s all I hear. Constantly.
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 8:56 AM MST up reply actions
OK, I'll probably get ripped for this.....
….but I’m not impressed with the number of shots that Landy has. It seems the majority of them are on rushes down along the boards with nobody near the net. Don’t get me wrong, I really like Landy, but people keep pointing to his number of shots as if it is amazing for a rookie….but most of those really have no chance of going in or even getting decent rebounds. Not trying to start trouble here, but can somebody set me straight? I feel I must be missing something.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
Can’t score if you don’t shoot. Get more guys (I guess like Downie, though I still don’t think he’s that guy, but hopefully he proves me wrong)) getting to the net to get the rebounds on those shots…
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This just reminds me of what Smitty could have been to the Avs if the coach would have let him.
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 8:57 AM MST up reply actions
But they had him behind the net all the time
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You know who I really miss behind the net? Brunette!
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 9:05 AM MST up reply actions
oh Bruno, wish we’d never let him go
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:11 AM MST up reply actions
Three Hawks (including Bruno) rushing the goal is what scored the game winner for the Hawks last night
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I’m sure Hawks fans would be amused to see the words “Bruno” and “rush” in the same sentence. They can’t get over how slow he is.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Were they living in an alternate dimension since 2002? He’s always been slow. When he makes fun of himself, you gotta know it true.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
But, but,
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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 22, 2012 10:39 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
There’s an adage: any shot is a good shot. I think it’s true. Some of his shots won’t go in of course, but even super bad angle shots have a better chance of creating a funny bounce, rebound, goalie mistake, faceoff in the offensive zone, among other things. Getting shots is always a good thing and very very very rarely has a negative effect.
If someone plays hockey or coaches it, it is very apparent that any shot is worth while.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
But isn't there a balance somewhere in there....
…for example, you don’t see every team crossing the blue line and just shooting. It seems there has to be a balance between shooting and often giving the puck back to the opponent and puck control for better shots.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
There is and Jibs has talked about this. Duchene takes fewer shows and looks for “better shots”. But honestly, shots are shots. A shot from the boards is more likely yo create a rebound, have a fumble and MOST IMPORTANTLY create and offensize zone faceoff, than not shooting will.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
So a faceoff is better than having the puck already?
I’m not trying to be a smarta$$, just trying to learn a bit hear. So preach away.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
Fair question.
It’s a tough argument, possession vs. faceoff. The Avs are a GOOD faceoff team. Getting an offensive zone faceoff is never a bad thing. However, sometimes deep possession isbetter. You can shoot too much, e.g. when the Avs have a 3 on 2 or speed or other advantages, but he usually doesn’t.
You can lose the puck if you hold it. Even Dastyuk and Duchene and Thornton lose the puck. Landy does not have their possession skills and will shoot, hope for a bounce/mistake/rebound, and then go get the puck. If it’s a faceoff and he stays on, he’ll go win it in again and grind it to the front.
He’s a north-south player. Get puck in own end, go to offensive end, get puck on net. Good things will happen when he does that.
There is a balance though and you can’t have all Landy’s and you can’t have all Duchenes.
Further, Landy’s shooting make the other teams’ defense play a shot. That means they move to him which can, and does, open up space in the middle for a Duchene/O’Reilly to go to the net. Shooting by and Landy and the speed of Duchene create problems for a defense. Landy’s shots just have that possibility, even if slight, of creating a rebound, or better.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
lovely assessment
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 9:46 AM MST up reply actions
But he’s not just crossing the blue line and shooting…and a lot of the time Landy is the one in the zone on a line change. Better to shoot and get your guys on ice, than try something funky…and turnover the puck in mid change
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I see your point during line changes....
….but maybe not so clear to me when no line change is going on.
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Honest question:
In your opinion, do you think his wealth of shots is a detriment to his linemates?
IMO, I don’t see that as an issue. I think he takes shots when there is few other options or when he is planning on immediately following his shot to the net. He’s one of the few guys on the team that does that consistently (follow his shot). I think he plays a simple game and that is a big part of it. As his frame continues to fill out, I think you’ll see that aspect of his game get more dangerous and create just as much havoc in the offensive-zone as a long possession.
On the line change/in alone instances, one thing I always prefer is a guy who takes a shot when he’s in alone rather than just dump it to the corner, which is the bread and butter for lots of guys.
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I think overall, no.
But I do believe there should probably be a better balance. As others pointed out above Landy isn’t going to stick handle through the traffic so maybe when he is the lead guy in the shot is the best as puck possession may not be as likely if he tries to beat his guy with the puck. So, I think you guys are starting to sway me. I hope as he gets more skilled he can have a few other options. I just picture the upper teams and they rarely just throw it on net from bad angles with nobody really near the net for screens or rebounds…..they seem to get into the zone and keep possession to set up their offense.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
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It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 8:58 AM MST up reply actions
And then there's Daniel Winnik shots
which don’t result in anything more than me throwing myself out the nearest window
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
Oh no, you’re right. Probably more than half of his shots were easy saves for the goalie. But we’re just thrilled we have someone shooting the dang puck on occasion. Even if they aren’t high percentage shots, if you whack that puck at net enough, sooner or later something is going to fall. That’s why he’s tied for lead in goals scored right now. If nothing else, it creates a bit of chaos for the other team’s defense.
Landy’s still young too. I’m sure his shooting and shot selection will get better with time. But right now, we’re just happy to have him shooting. That’s what players like him should do.
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especially last year when we saw to much pass pass loss of posession without a shot
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by Freakoffaleash on Feb 22, 2012 9:02 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I was thinking something similar in the game against Winnipeg. The Avs seemed to be playing “Feed it to Landy so he can shoot.” Personally, I have no issues with this, especially on this team the way it’s set up right now. This is a rookie who wants to be a scorer but also takes care of business with hits and on defense. He will be much better off next year after taking 250 NHL shots, and I think we’re already seeing his shot strength improve. I hope he continues it, because the more he does, the more likely it is that next year his shots will be more accurate, more lively and more successful.
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considering i think his shot is already improving this will be the case he has seems to be better with shot selection too this may be me misremembering but he seems to be taking depending on the situation higher chance rebound shots when everyone is in the zone or entering it and have the numbers vs higher freeze chances when he is solo due to change but to me his shot selection as well as accuracy is already improving in my opinion
i will likely miss first two periods tonight but i will try watch it in third
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by Freakoffaleash on Feb 22, 2012 9:10 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
if you noticed, Landy has tried making more moves as the year has went on and he got more comfortable. Any coach is going to tell an 18 year old rookie to keep it simple, esp. when winnik is on your line! He has tried a lot of moves recently IMO, esp. trying to inside out d-men. His game will change as he gets more experience.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 9:24 AM MST up reply actions
I would say the fact that he’s 2nd on the team in goals is a good indication that his shots helping
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:12 AM MST up reply actions
Funny. I use the same theory on attempts at humorous posts. Jibbs probably has my percentage calculated somewhere.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Feb 22, 2012 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
Got a question for everyone.
Shattenkirk is a really good player but he was found expendable with Elliot and Barrie in the system. Shattenkirk is two years older then those two so he should have a bit more maturity. The question I have, Wo you guys think Shatts will be better then Elliot or do you guys think Elliot will be better?
Shatts Rookie year had 9G 34A, 43P in 72 games . This year he has 7G 19A 26P
Elliot- 4G 7A 11P in 30 games
too soon to say. Elliott has been less impressive thusfar
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:16 AM MST up reply actions
Shattenkirk was more mature and developed for his rookie year after college. I think Shattenkirk is going to be a great player and what I saw from Elliot leads to me think he can be just as good.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
he’s 2 years older but the thing I see if Shatty has unreal vision and makes great passes. He is also very poised with the puck. I think as a goal scorer Elliot may eventually be better b/c he has a great shot. You don’t set WHL records that easy.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 9:29 AM MST up reply actions
I personally think it will be Shattenkirk > Elliott > Barrie
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 22, 2012 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
I think overall, Barrie will be better.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 9:47 AM MST up reply actions
Barrie, IMO will have a tough time being a good NHL d-man. I would trade him now as part of a package for a PF winger type. They also have seimens coming and it’s easy to sign 3-6 d-men in FA market.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:05 AM MST up reply actions
i think he is much more defensively sound than Elliott and unless Elliott can put up Karlsson-like numbers, I see Barrie being the better d-man.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3SpkJv75ac&feature=related
I’ve watched so much MST3K this morning my life has lost all purpose and meaning. Have you posted this one yet?
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what?
FIRE SHERMAN
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:17 AM MST up reply actions
sacco
fire him. we can still turn this season around
by 2fkndope on Feb 22, 2012 9:19 AM MST via Android app reply actions
Fucking Sacco, I cant believe he traded Quincey
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:22 AM MST up reply actions
Fire his ass! That’s not his job.
Sherman, set the WABAC machine to 1995. We'll bring back Sakic and Forsberg in their primes!
by Busted Twigg on Feb 22, 2012 9:22 AM MST up reply actions
Sacco probably already told Downie to get suspended.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Sacco probably already called the refs and used his timeout for tonight
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:28 AM MST up reply actions
Naw, not yet, but he probably already dumped Downie’s stuff in Bernie’s house and told him that was his locker for a while.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
AND he can’t score goals
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 9:48 AM MST up reply actions
or stop them
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:48 AM MST up reply actions
he also takes dumb penalties
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:48 AM MST up reply actions
And his body language and rebound control is atrocious.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
He’s a bad lockerroom presence.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
It’s not as bad as his PK save %, I’ll tell you that for free.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
And how much longer are we going to protect Sacco’s minutes?
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
Have you seen his Defensive zone starts? It’s like he’s not ever on the ice for them.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
His Corsi is just horrid.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
that low?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
all of this with the lowest qualcomp on the team!
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
And have you SEEN his +/-?
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Better than EJ’s too. But still worse than Landeskog’s.
What a slacker. Can’t even put up a better +/- than a 19-year-old rookie.
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Sacco has no “compete”.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
not to mention he leads the league in give aways
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
He just doesn’t start on time OR play a full 60 minutes.
Actually, it’s like he doesn’t start skating at all! Ever!
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goal for was scored, right?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
That’s because he’s such a Wolski-er that he’s just invisible every game.
What a Stastny.
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It just occurred to me… I don’t know if I’ve ever seen Sacco on the ice when a goal was scored.
If he was playing for the Leafs, he was on the ice for plenty.
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That’s JML’s number in Toronto. Quelle coincidence!
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Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
Sacco flashed me for beads last night
by 2fkndope on Feb 22, 2012 5:02 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Can't tell if serious.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 22, 2012 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
This needs an image.
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I like the futurama one:
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 4:09 PM MST up reply actions
thought
tonight really is a must win if we have any chance at playoffs. LA is right ahead of us and Edmonton did us a big favor last night.
Also, this could be lines when all are healthy. Looks appealing to me.
Mueller-Stas-Downie
Landy-Radar-Duchene (that’s per DP today)
Duke-Olver-Jones
winnik-j-gali
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 9:34 AM MST reply actions
not enough penalty killers… Gali would probably take olvers spot with Subasew or VDG taking the 4th line
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
disagree, J, winnik, gali can kill penalties and I think olver and jones could do spot duty too. Speaking of that per a different thread. I would put subaru and porter on waivers and see if they hopefully get picked up. Those top 3 can all score.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions
Kobasew > Gali most nights.
If not better, at least more versatile/responsible
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
the gali landy pk combo was pretty damn good
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by Freakoffaleash on Feb 22, 2012 11:07 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I’d rather not waste Landy minutes on the PK
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
practicing, some torso injury
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 3:43 PM MST up reply actions
Knew it was a torso injury, just stupid and misread the comment. Thanks though
by Avalanchefan86 on Feb 22, 2012 3:45 PM MST up reply actions
mueller and gali both practiced yesterday in non-contact jerseys. gali wasnt shying away from anything, pretty much played at 100%. muels was closer to 60%.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 4:13 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
blah blah blah
Terry Frei complaining about money not being spent, blah blah blah
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well, that’s valid
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 22, 2012 9:46 AM MST up reply actions
In season? I mean, bitch about the failure to spend last summer in UFA, bitch about it in a few months if there’s another summer like that, but just what, exactly, is Shermie supposed to write checks for in late February?
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Actually his article doesn't blame Sherm....
…it attacks ownership. I share his concerns.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
Didn’t have a chance to read the article yet. I agree that this summer is the organization’s last chance to prove that they’re not just running WalMart Hockey and actually want to run a proper franchise.
I’m worried too, I’m just not sure why just before the trade deadline is the time for the media to begin the handwringing.
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2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.
is it really though? say they make one decent signing, a 4 million level top 6 guy. Is that enough to you?
Duchene-Stazz-Top sixer
Landy-OReilly-Mueller
various bottom 6
EJ ? Wilson
SOB
O’Byrne-Hejda
Varly
Jiggy
They dont have to go all florida on UFA day, they just need one guy better than Hejduk and this team is pretty fucking competitive
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
But still not Stanley Cup worthy
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No. But its on par with the Bruins of say 4 years ago?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
Theoretically you now have Downie and Jones on the 3rd to fill in for injuries, defensive depth is lacking though
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
That fill-in theory only works if you’re one of the 1% that thinks Mueller can play a whole season.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I bet he can play 45-60
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
As a student paying tuition i dont take bets. but if i did i’d take that
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
So we’d have no depth for 22-37 games (26-45% of the season).
Sounds about right.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Downie on your 2nd line for 22-37 games is standard for a lot of teams
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:12 PM MST up reply actions
I know
But not alot of teams that are trying to establish the second coming of Sakic/Forsberg.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I get the feeling that Terry is actually in Avs fans..
..but has the MSM to vent. Trade deadline is one of those situations where people vent. Although, I think I’d actually be bummed if we made a trade for a big time player unless said big time player is locked up for a few years. I’m guessing those guys aren’t available at trade deadline.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
This is exactly my issue. In the article, Frei even says that if what they’re doing is all part of a plan, then great. But we won’t know if it is part of a plan until this off-season. But there is, of course, perception. So based on perception even though we can’t really know what’s up until the off-season let’s totally rant like a spoiled child about the money not being spent.
So. Tired. of this argument. Come August 1, go all out on it if things haven’t changed. Until then, can we just move on and focus on other shit?
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
Bold prediction:
Avs will go out, sign one very solid player on August 1st, spot fill a few other places and be in the lower half of payroll. It will be exactly the right move, and many will still be disappointed
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
I’m on board
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
I believe they’ll bid for TST. They might lose out, but they’ll bid for him.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Top Six Talent.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
That's a tough name to live up to.....
…..his parents had confidence.
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They’ll get a TST, it just wont be Parise. Someone more like Hecht or Kostisyn (sp?)
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
I believe TST will come, or if it doesn’t, Suter or Weber.
It fits the model perfectly and until my model is proven wrong, I will stand by it.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I have a weird feeling that we’ll be trading for it instead of signing though tbh
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
I believe TST will come, or if it doesn’t, Suter or Weber.
UFA is not always the way to obtain the high end talent.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Weird
My fortune cookie at lunch yesterday said the exact same thing. I didn’t understand it then, but now it’s all clear.
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Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
I’m not sure what the Avs have to offer to bring back TST. Not without losing some of the limited TSTs we have now.
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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
Centers….
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
Is Hecht really a TST at this point? I mean, I’ve always liked him, but he’s pretty damn old at this point. Hejduk’s a better option regardless.
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he’s def not. Even though he’s getting paid like it.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
True. They should both call it a career at the end of the season (Duke & Hecht).
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I think Hecht could put together another season or two on the right team
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
If by "right move" you mean, we become...
….a good playoff team, I don’t think people will complain.
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They’ll complain all the way up through game 60ish
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
I'll be satisfied for a couple of years..
..and then complain until we have a Stanley Cup contender. That’s expectations for you. I miss having expectations.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
You cant have a contender until you have a playoff team.
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:22 AM MST up reply actions
an underrated forward who plays well in the top 6 a la hte flash or mueller trades (maybe kostystin) someone like that.
It wont be a Nash, a Parise or a Suter, but this team has done a great job of finding guys who fit (Hunwick is a small exception to that rule) I have tons of faith in the scouting department that we’ll be getting not the most expensive guy, the biggest name, but the “right” guy
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:48 AM MST up reply actions
this team needs more than just 1 “right guy” (read: long shot cheap signing) addition to be anything more than an also-ran.
there’s precisely zero competitive reasons to be in the lower half of spending once the new CBA. we suck, we’re not making the playoffs AGAIN. if they don’t spend like a team trying to win, we’ll know this team is about money than winning, plain and simple.
If anything I see trading Quincey for Downie instead of a pick(s) as a sign that management sees the team being competitive in the very near future. Which also leads me to believe the money spending will come soon enough. Money spent on adding the finishing touches to a team with chemistry we know works, not on a bloated useless roster of Columbus Bluejackets type proportions.
In Terry’s defense, they had last offseason…and the year before. Koci and Kobasew.
I'll keep this brief.
Winnik…how you forget
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True. Avs aren’t really setting the market with Hejda and Winnick signings either. Good signings but deals that look like a team ready to solidify their hold on the NW rather than a team trying to claw their way in to an 8th spot.
I'll keep this brief.
I still say they wanted to see what they actually had in their young guys before going after the top talent. They knew what they had and what they needed for the bottom six. That’s why I still say this offseason will be the tell. What they do this year will show us exactly where they stand. It’s seemed systematic to me.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
Me too
This is why we’re both so calm about how this season has gone on. This was the last tune up for a lot of these kids. This summer the organization either whips it out and slaps it on a the table in a “kay, we’re done fucking around” manner or they proceed business as usual and I stop going to games
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
sounds about right
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
That’s my personal plan as well. If they do nothing this year, I’m a full-on Rinne/Preds fanboy for a least as season or three.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Will you be sewing piano keys into the collars of your shirts?
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
No. But I might add musical staffs to all of my goalie jerseys.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Which…. kind of supports Frei’s point yes?
If the Avs don’t do more than sign their restricted guys then all indications point to Kroenke going Monfort. There are already lots of other indications that he’s slid that way but this Summer will prove it.
I'll keep this brief.
What if other guys just don’t want to come here?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
I didn't read the article
but if you say what I said supports what Frei said, then I believe what you say
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
I have a link to it in my fanpost.
Peter McNabb thinks I'm outstanding.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
Don't think I need to read it, now
haha you guys nailed it all down for me right?
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
I’m not hopeful that the avs will be a player in FA.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
Except Frei is bitching about them not doing anything already.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
i think Frei’s point is that the Quincey move reeks of cost cutting yet again, as I’ve been screaming from heavens. he doesn’t make that super explicit though.
I didn't get that feeling at all
If it was strictly a cost-cutting move, why demand an NHL player in return? They had no interest in Detroit’s pick or any of their players, so we turned to TB where we got a guy we can immediately make use of. Had we just traded Quincey for the 1st and then called up Elliott, your premise that it was simply a cost-cutting move would carry a lot more weight in my eyes.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
i agree
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
great point AJ. it’s a funny cost cutting move for sure. they’re not the KC royals, perpetually in rebuild mode. I suppose that’s something.
This move speaks to me of a team that still has a number one priority of cost control, but wants to win now still. So they trade a guy that’s talented but (going to be) expensive for a cheaper but less talented guy at a position of need.
you don’t build winners constantly downgrading talent like that. you just kind of grind down into mediocrity. a team of meh. they’re not trying to win with this move, they’re trying to keep asses in seats for the minimum cost.
I'm leaving right now
But I definitely wanna respond to this later.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
it’s all about Jan 1. There’s no reason, zero, the Avs can’t supplement their talented young players with some UFAs. If we have another shrew offseason, it’s going to be really hard to support this team.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 22, 2012 4:17 PM MST up reply actions
Got it. I totally disagree, of course.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
well, Quincey being traded was at least partially about saving money according to most people here. It’s pretty obvious the Avs weren’t willing to pay Quincey what he wanted/was going to be worth this offseason.
saw that, his panties are in a huuuuge bunch.
I hope he eats crow before monday
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:47 AM MST up reply actions
he mentions Nashville and how they are 5th in payroll but in the playoffs without mentioning Columbus or Buffalo, it irks me.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 9:49 AM MST up reply actions
and he closed the comments section. No Frei rant is complete without the inability to respond to it
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
seriously? wow, on a blog?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 9:51 AM MST up reply actions
As a season ticket holder, so am I. Money spent on player payroll generally does correlate to success, or a lack thereof, in the NHL over the past few seasons. Pretty damn closely, actually. Per the damn charts I made but could never format in a way that they would be readable in a fanpost. But DDC covered it too. We hump the floor. We suck. It isn’t rocket science and I’m not buying into any imaginary master plan until ownership proves that there actually is one in place.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 22, 2012 9:51 AM MST up reply actions
I think it slightly correlates, but I’d also be interested to see money spent in home grown products (i.e. the black hawks) vs money spent in the free agency market and correlate that to playoffs.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 9:53 AM MST up reply actions
Notice the teams that didn’t spend money are, for the most part, at the bottom
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 22, 2012 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
The Blackhawks have a fair amount of home grown talent from sucking for so many year…then plugged in the rest through…shocking enough…high priced free agents.
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who was a high priced FA that they acquired? (not trolling, actually not aware).
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
Hossa
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
And Campbell before that. Mock if you like, but he has a ring.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
Poor Campbell
Like anybody would’ve turned down the money that was offered to him and he was neeeever worth that kind of cash. Still was a good at what he did, though
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
Very good at what he does
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
I’m never saying he should have. Certain Hawks fans just look at his cap hit and automatically assume he sucked because he didn’t put up 500 points a year.
Real hockey fans see what kind of all around defensemen he is and say…yeah he was a bit overpaid, but he’s better than Steve fucking Montador
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Liles and Stastny say hi.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
Stastny was different
That contract was essentially done for us when Kopitar signed his deal. At the time they were nearly identical in everything so it was copy/paste
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
true
but he’s still a constant victim of “HEGETSPAIDXXXXSOHESHOULDBEROARSOME”. I just hate that argument sooooooo much.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
Of course
It’s dumb to look at a guy’s salary and say “you need to reach these arbitrary statistical plateaus or else you’re a bust”
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
yuppers
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
See the argument I made above for Brian Campbell and meathead Hawk fans
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Definitely
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
fer sure
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
You are right, sir. I think the Hannan hate gets me even more bristled than the Liles rabble.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:13 PM MST up reply actions
Like I said, there’s a slight correlation, but it’s HOW you spend that money as well.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
do you think you could email me the charts? If you still have them? it’s my sn @yahoo.com
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 9:56 AM MST up reply actions
if they don’t sign one of these it’s a joke. Suter, Parise or at least Semin, Hemsky,Grabovski,Doan etc. that is, providing they are even available. The rebuild is over, you have 3 young centers, 2 goalies signed, a decent D corps. what is there to wait for? nothing. Need to fill in the missing pieces now and with no forwards in minors, they have nothing to wait for.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:03 AM MST up reply actions
signing doan would be a joke
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
Hemsky is a good player, but he’s exactly what the Avs don’t need…a guy who has nagging injuries nearly all the time. THey have enough of those guy and have in the past couple of years
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Top end awesome talent. We need one at left wing, we need one on defense. It just so happens that there are two obvious options shaping up to be there this offseason. Then hello playoffs for many years to come as this core grows up together.
Just two signings, Sherman. That’s all I ask.
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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
question, if someone offers either of those two 8 mill per year, do you try and outbid at 8 and a quarter?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
I think the bump in season and single-game tickets make that a worthwhile investment. That $250k per player could be made up pretty easy, though we might have to sacrifice a Lindstrom contract along the way. The horror.
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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
And yet you keep renewing your season tickets.
But I agree – the time to put up is pretty soon. I never bought the argument that they needed to save cash to re-sign all their awesome young players when those contracts needed to be renewed. I guess there’s the component of uncertainty with the CBA up in the air, but I don’t really understand all the implications of that, and I wonder if that’s something management uses as an excuse, knowing that most people won’t understand the ramifications.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
all the raises they’re going to get isn’t that much of the cap space.
Peter McNabb thinks I'm outstanding.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions
Did you see my fan post? This might shock you but if you factor in the avs replacing all the UFA with salary minimums and the raises that all the RFA’s are goign to get, it gets you back to the cap floor next season.
Peter McNabb thinks I'm outstanding.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
Wow
did anyone see that Pavelec glove save? holy shit
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gaunce
this kind of supports my argument that he will never amount to much. The fact that he never is mentioned as a call up even.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:00 AM MST reply actions
not this shit again. Gaunce is 21. He may never amount to much or he may become a solid player. It is way to early to call that now
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 22, 2012 10:03 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Gaunce is 26. Cool Breeze told me that last time. #TotalBust #JustLikeEveryOtherDraftPick
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Stop clouding this issue with facts, Troll.
Go Avs.
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by Tony Trujillo on Feb 22, 2012 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
the question remains? why does he not get a chance and barrie/elliot do then?
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
Skillset. He’s more defensively oriented. We have Hejda, O’Brien, O’Byrne still in place and healthy.
Sherman, set the WABAC machine to 1995. We'll bring back Sakic and Forsberg in their primes!
by Busted Twigg on Feb 22, 2012 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
yeah but elliot was alos already sent down and his defense was lacking so to me it’s more important to have the defensive play.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:08 AM MST up reply actions
No, he was sent down for more seasoning, and to give Barrie a look at the big club. These are both strategic hockey moves and player development moves.
Sherman, set the WABAC machine to 1995. We'll bring back Sakic and Forsberg in their primes!
by Busted Twigg on Feb 22, 2012 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
Because Altidudes said that Sacco was looking for an offensive spark – like the one a PMD would give. That would rule out Gaunce at the moment
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by Nemesis44UK on Feb 22, 2012 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
Good point. The fact Olver wasn’t called up earlier in the year when he got healthy means he’ll never amount to anything either. Also, they didn’t recall Pickard when Giggy went down? The dude is already a bust.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Olver did get called up prety quickly though, he had to have some conditioning and playing time as he was out for so long.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
So Gaunce can’t get seasoning?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
he wasn’tr hurt and sitting out like Olver?
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:08 AM MST up reply actions
So, why can’t he get more seasoning and start his career at 22/23/24 when most defensemen do?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I didn’t say he has no chance, it’s just mu opinion. He has been in minors for 3 years I believe.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
I didn’t say he has no chance, it’s just mu opinion
gaunce this kind of supports my argument that he will never amount to much. The fact that he never is mentioned as a call up even.
Um…..
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Why you gotta use his exact words in their exact context to directly contradict him? Next time try putting words in his mouth or pulling the posts out of context.
Observe the rules of Internet discussions!
This is his second year as a professional player. He played 3 years in the OHL prior to that.
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Don’t be a dick.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
troll
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
I know Google is hard to use
but saying shit like this
He has been in minors for 3 years I believe.
Is hilarious.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
hey now, don’t bring your research abilities in this thread!
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions
Especially considering I (and others) have given the actual numbers multiple times already.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions
But certain people “know for a fact”…that’s good enough for me, or something. Makes you wonder sometimes that if people who knew everything, actually knew everything, that they would be the ones running hockey teams, not those who actually are
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Therefore, aliens.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 1:08 PM MST up reply actions
I knew they were out there
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serious question
Do you believe they are?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:14 PM MST up reply actions
Fuck yes I do
I think it’s incredibly arrogant to think in a universe of this size we’re the only “intelligent life” out there.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:15 PM MST up reply actions
I agree 100%
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:16 PM MST up reply actions
me too
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions
Makes sense to me.
Further thought on “intelligent life”… recently there has been a recommendation from “the scientific community” (whatever that means) that dolphins be given the same rights to life and liberty as humans have, on the basis that they are sufficiently intelligent and self-aware to justify the granting of rights.
Thoughts?
...more power to them
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:26 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
It applies to whales, too.
Basically, it would make it illegal to kill or trap them in any way. They cannot be deprived of their freedom in any manner without the proper process.
If they have sufficient self-awareness and intelligence, then why not? It makes sense to me. I’m just curious how far this will go.
...more power to them
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:28 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Well that was enlightening
I find it a pretty interesting topic, personally. You seem to disagree, which is alright.
No no
It is interesting I just don’t have anything to add haha. I agree with
If they have sufficient self-awareness and intelligence, then why not?
I think it’d be cool to stop thumping our chest and claiming we’re the only intelligent life despite plenty of evidence to the contrary existing.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
Hell, even ants can build ridiculous structures to house themselves.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
Ahaha alright then. It’s cool to think that sometime during my lifetime we may grant rights to a new group.
I wasn’t around during most of the great rights-granting movements.
Agree completely.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
Would the rights extend to places like zoos? The animals would have to stay there, not having learned the skills to live in real life, the law would have to be grand fathered in.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:32 PM MST up reply actions
The specifics would have to be determined by the various governments, I would imagine. Science doesn’t get to step on the toes of Parliamentary supremacy.
But holding them for our viewing pleasure would probably be outlawed unless we found some way to communicate with them and gain consent.
Zoos are dumb anyway >_<
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:34 PM MST up reply actions
i agree, but it’s the only way I get to see animals in which my bank account agrees. I once went on a Whale Watch, it was amazing.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:35 PM MST up reply actions
I did that off of Victoria before. What a great experience. We had some orcas showing off nearby.
I was young and it was brilliant.
I did it off of Cape Cod. We got the see Humpback whales feeding, probably a 20% chance of seeing it. It’s so awesome how they feed, and I’ll never forget it.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
I went whale watching once. It was very similar to watching people on a boat become disappointed
We did a lot of whale thinking about that day
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Didn't know there was one
We need to get to using our vouchers though. Haven’t been to a game in like a month……. Definitely going to one or both LEM games though
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
I’m torn on zoos. I don’t like the lives the animals are forced to live, but zoos provide education on those animals. With education comes understanding and respect. Without zoos, many more species would be endangered and extinct than already are.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
you can always tell a teacher (or former teacher)
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
lol
Actually I held this stance long before I even thought about going into teaching. It’s something I’ve followed since I was in grade school.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
falls into the debate, is one born thinking like a teacher, or does one learn to think like a teacher?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
If you ask any of my family or friends, you would get a unanimous “latter” vote. I definitely was not the teacher type for most of my life.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
very interesting
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
I fully hear Freud’s voice when reading that. I wonder what Freud would say about that.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:18 PM MST up reply actions
Cheryl,
It depends on the zoo, really. Some are very exploitive, but many are now dedicated to conservation and research in that field. There are also programs that attempt to increase population numbers before re-introduction that would be impossible without zoos.
I was pretty surprised, myself, to discover that the philosophy is no longer to put the animals in a cage so we can gawk at them, but serve as facilitators of research and one part of the re-introduction and ecological rehabilitation process.
(It’s still not yet perfect, mind.)
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 22, 2012 3:45 PM MST up reply actions
that’s why i said i have mixed feelings.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 4:16 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Most major zoos are now all about conservation and reproduction. I love zoos, and I support them where I can.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 22, 2012 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
There are also programs that attempt to increase population numbers before re-introduction that would be impossible without zoos.
And the Denver Zoo is a very, very good zoo in this regard. One of the best breeding zoos in the world. (Fair warning: I do a lot of work personally and with non-profits towards improving breeding and rearing programs of marine animals in captivity.)
It means they are one step closer to being the next dominant species on this planet.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:27 PM MST up reply actions
Simpson’s predicted that in a Halloween episode didn’t they?
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No clue, not a big Simpsons fan
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
I was, until it stopped being funny about 8 seasons ago
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yep
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:32 PM MST up reply actions
Yes. The humans end up in the ocean.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 22, 2012 3:46 PM MST up reply actions
;) although to be honest, If anyone disagrees with your statement, I don’t want to be part of that debate.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:36 PM MST up reply actions
no doubt
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:37 PM MST up reply actions
Considering some of the studies I've read, this argument is valid.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 22, 2012 3:30 PM MST up reply actions
Can't remember who said it
But I think proof there’s intelligence out there lies in the fact they haven’t tried to contact us yet
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 22, 2012 4:19 PM MST up reply actions
Hobbes said that
/Watterson
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
I knew it was someone great. (I’ve heard scientists say variations on it too)
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 22, 2012 4:30 PM MST up reply actions
I do think there is something else out there…I don’t believe, however, that we are being visited and anally probed by beings from other planets…blurry video aside
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Exactly…especially southern hillbillies who have had too much to drink. Though maybe the aliens just enjoy fucking with them
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Wait-a-minute, there are hillbillies everywhere and they ALL get anally raped by aliens, not just the ones in the south.
Maybe it’s the accents that turn the aliens on so much that they just can’t stop shoving poles up redneck asses?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I do. Aliens from movies? No. but Microbiology and other forms of science suggest that life has a way of occurring in even the most extreme conditions.
We recently discovered a type of bacteria that is based on a completely different DNA system/Atomic structure on EARTH. Completely changes what we know about life, and I’m really excited to see what the research on this subject will provide in the next ten years.
We happened by shear luck, so who is to say it couldn’t happen elsewhere? It is statistically unlikely we are the only life in the universe
I also know that there are silicone based organisms as opposed to carbon based.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
deep see vents, right?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:36 PM MST up reply actions
I believe so, and I think they found something similar in hot spots in Yellowstone and a Volcano somewhere. Its been a while since I read the articles so I’d have to find them again
woooo!
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:39 PM MST up reply actions
Stuff frozen in a pressurized lake deep in Antarctica.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
They actually just penetrated it...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16907998
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 22, 2012 3:50 PM MST up reply actions
giggity
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
We recently discovered a type of bacteria that is based on a completely different DNA system/Atomic structure on EARTH. Completely changes what we know about life, and I’m really excited to see what the research on this subject will provide in the next ten years.
Arsenic? Oh boy, I remember the day leading up to that presser. As it unfolded, I could hear the entire world deflating in unison.
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The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 22, 2012 3:48 PM MST up reply actions
This
Why is one slightly different molecule in the otherwise-same chemical such a big deal? Are we really THAT presumptive about biology and life?
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Was TCB around last year, when Gaunce kept being called a rookie?
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The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins. Maybe.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 22, 2012 3:29 PM MST up reply actions
Also, they didn’t recall Pickard when Giggy went down?
This is trolling.
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I was being a dick.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I thought the new rule was don’t be a dick
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I am confused.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
SO I am I am.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
That makes me twitch because of what “the memo” meant last season.
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Oh, you and Randy Time both. I’m glad you’re okay.
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No it doesn't.
Gaunce is a completely different type of player than Quincey. He’s more in the SOB/Wilson mold. The reason why Elliott was called up instead of him was because Quincey was more of an offensive defenseman and we needed a replacement for that.
The kid is 21 and preformed very well during his first call-up last year. He’ll be just fine.
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I don’t know if it does support that argument. I feel like Gaunce is simply not what the team needs right now. I imagine that if Hejda and SOB went down with injuries that we would probably hear Gaunce’s name.
He does seem to be getting a bit of a brush-off, though. It’s a bit early to tell, but I don’t picture Gaunce becoming a standard NHLer.
Really? You’re going to get into this again?
This is trolling. Don’t be a dick.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 10:29 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with Cheryl. Let’s have one gameday thread that isn’t full of coolbreeze issues.
Everybody be cool.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
by Mike @ MHH on Feb 22, 2012 10:31 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I personally feel like a discussion of Gaunce and his future is a legitimate topic. If it’s conducted poorly, that’s another story… but I feel like breeze wrote this first message in a completely innocent way.
Unless, of course, this discussion has been ongoing and been heated multiple times in the past. If so, I apologize defer to your past experience on it.
The conversation has been beaten to death. It’s been in multiple threads and everyone has clearly stated his/her opinion. As of right now, there isn’t anything to add to it.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
wait wait wait not everyone i havent input my two cents
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by Freakoffaleash on Feb 22, 2012 10:51 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
it may have been discussed more than whether or not Sacco has done a good job this year.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
I think given what he has, he has done an above average job. The fact that he has grown as a coach, changed his offensive system to a possession style (successfully I might add) and improved our PK from uber passive to a much more successful, aggressive style show that he has worked very well with what he has.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
Is he the best coach, I don’t know because I can’t say for sure what someone else would actually do with this team, that would be pure speculation, but I can say that he has kept an underskilled team with very few top six, in the playoff hunt so far.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
I don’t think Sacco’s the best coach in the league, but he’s done a pretty good job with the young guns this year all things considered.
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that’s the only reason I mentioned it. I don’t really ever see anything said about him by Dater, announcers, etc but hear a lot about elliot/barrie
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
who wants to talk about a defensive prospect? You never hear announcers talking about winnik, it’s all landy, duchene, radar, people want ot talk about offense.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
I’m with the above that Gaunce is a defensive type defensmen…the Avs need puck movers right now with 3 solid defensive defensemen. Barrie and Elliott are better puck movers than Gaunce.
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They also do the power play.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
what is this power play?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
They are also Sherman/Pracey ‘guys’. Gaunce was drafted under Hampson/Guiguere. Management always favors their own aquired players. In this case it’s more than that because of Gaunce’s stay at home style.
Now if the Avs go in to seller mode and unload O’Bryne (please not O’Brien), then we could see Gaunce.
I'll keep this brief.
You know
For all this talk about Gaunce and his defense, he’s still second on the Monsters in scoring and 9th overall. He has a little offensive game.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
And a (hiding from Jibbs) +15…he’s having a very good season for LEM
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He is
If he is Colorado’s 7th D next year, I am very okay with that.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
no problem, I just said it as my opinion b/c Elliot was called up again. I won’t bring it up anymore. fair enough.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
Hey Paul, is it okay if I look you up on FB?
"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin
by Nemesis44UK on Feb 22, 2012 10:11 AM MST up reply actions
Thanks,
I will use my real name, Phil Harben. :-)
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by Nemesis44UK on Feb 22, 2012 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
Didn’t he get killed by his crazy ex-wife? Wait, Hartman. Wrong Phil
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LOL. I have MHH’ers on fb, so now I think of them by their real names… and I don’t know their MHH’er names :(
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 4:29 PM MST up reply actions
I ask before I add.
I never add if I don’t know the MHH name.
Seriously, a couple years back one of the ways people were coming to this site was googling my name. Freaked the Hell out of me. So, I need MHH names.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 4:38 PM MST up reply actions
Dude, it’s my real name on here! … what’s the other’s girls name? (you can fb me) I can tell you who it is.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 4:55 PM MST up reply actions
I’m friends with Sandie too, it should be fairly easy to figure our who I am.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 5:43 PM MST up reply actions
you and me both
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 22, 2012 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
Hold on. Isn’t the Gordie Howe hat trick the thing that he did like……once in his entire career?
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by Nemesis44UK on Feb 22, 2012 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
Creamy, I ALMOST got a pint of Pliney the Younger last weekend, gonna try again this weekend. Per our conversation a few days ago re this subject!
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
girl I work with is an IPA addict, and she swears by Pliny the Younger. I’ve tried, it and it’s good, but IPAs just aren’t my thing
so I got quite the education on it too. The brewery only has it on-site for 2 weeks and apparently during that time they are packed and sell it out dailey as fast as they can pour it. They release 1 keg a day at the brewery.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:26 AM MST up reply actions
yep, but I was too late. Daily, oops.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
It must feel amazing to be the owner of Russian River Brewing. The knowledge that your product is so unbelievably sought-after that you cannot keep up with the demand… that would be a great feeling.
The cult that has built up around that beer is really something else. I almost feel like no matter how good it is, it’s going disappointing after all the hype.
No soup for you!
Well, so what? He’s still a rock star
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 22, 2012 10:22 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
I’m past the whinging and into the excitement. Let’s see what this guy can do for our team! He’s here, let’s enjoy it.
I agree, it’s over and I don’t really think losing quincey has any sort of catastrophic downside.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
Nope, I don’t think losing Quincey is going to hurt us much, so as long as Downie can help us some, then all is well.
What’s done is done. No use crying over spilled milk at this point.
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I feel like if milk was spilled at all, it was just poured into a new container. We’ll find out eventually if that container is dirty.
I’m curious to know if Ryan Malone ever came up in the talks too b/c I’m sured they want to move him with that salary. what if we gave a 2nd and quincey for both of those guys. Didn’t happen, but it wouldn’t have shocked me. Maybe 2 of the same type guys and he is rather expensive.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
My opinion on this whole line of posts
Thank god for Shift-A
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by Dixomatic on Feb 22, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
I thought that was Don Cherry for a second
by jd21 on Feb 22, 2012 11:31 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Downie>Malone
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
Nash
I was watching NHL network last night and they said San Jose might be going after him hardest. He’s had good chemistry with biig Joe in olympics, etc. That would be interesting. They said SJ would not part with Couture though.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:40 AM MST reply actions
Going after who? Suter?
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Oops. I see that now.
Reading is hard sometimes lol
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Nash fits absolutely perfectly with San Jose. In my armchair-GM role, I would trade either Pavelski or Couture and Greiss and whatever else to get Nash and Thornton together. I think they win the cup if they do that.
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CBJ needs a keeper badly. SJS doesn’t have an NHL level keeper, much less an extra to send to Ohio.
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I know and, in that case, make it a 3 way trade or something. Nash would be perfect for them.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
that’s why to me LA is by far the most obvious place. They can’t score at all and have Bernier
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
Main problem there is the cap space. LAK doesn’t have much and I’m not sure what they could do to convince CBJ to take on some of their awful contracts.
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Jack Johnson and Bernier may do it. He’s was rumored to be a trade asset last night
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
Jack Johnson is making big money until well after the Second Coming.
He’s also not very good at hockey.
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yep, and for them to get Nash, they’d almost HAVE to part with Couture.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:05 AM MST up reply actions
Which SJ has supposedly said is a non-starter. Also, my fantasy team would go in the shitter if they moved Couture to C-bus.
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Same here…..
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 22, 2012 6:20 PM MST up reply actions
I'm still curious about our goalie prospect situation
Do you think Sherman will try to thin the herd before Monday?
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The Avs have one really good goalie in LE, Desjardins. He has had a cup of coffee in the NHL, but he is also injured a lot.
Pickard and the dude who kicked anus in the Jr.s this year are the other two “prospects” but they are a long way off.
Don’t see any need to thin that herd out
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wonder if Cedric could fetch anything?
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:51 AM MST up reply actions
I agree with this, as I think (based of nothing but stats) that Pickard may be the best choice to back up Desjardins next year. But Patterson and Millan are decent and probably worth a little something. And I wonder if the Avs will spend one of their 50 contracts on Aittokallio. The kid shows a lot of promise.
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don’t forget Patterson, but we have a CHL affiliate also.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
Next year, Cann is gone. I’m putting my money on Sami playing in Erie.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
It’s the exact opposite. Next year, we’ll have Desjardins, Pickard, Aittokallio, Patterson, Millan and Cann (unlikely though) competing for the two goalie positions in LEM. Pickard, Patterson, and Millan have all played out their eligibility in the leagues that they’re in, so the Avs will have to figure out which goalies they want to keep and which to give up on this summer.
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Desjardins and Cann are both free agents. Pickard will be in LEM for sure (if he clears waivers…old joke). the other guys we’ll have to see if the Avs sign them
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 22, 2012 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
and I don’t think the Avs will trade Pickard and I doubt anyone else is attractive enough to move
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 22, 2012 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
Aittokallio may bring back something if we wanted to move his rights.
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Low pick at best
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 22, 2012 11:20 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Giggy has so much value right now and is reportedly quite old. Strike whilst the iron is hot, I say!
Andyray ArlyleCay
Harding is a UFA next year, he would be a good guy to sign.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:51 AM MST up reply actions
So we’re giving up on Varly already?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Jiggy. He spells it Jiggy. He even explained his reasoning.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I’m a troll.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
doll?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
I would like that, but I imagine that Sherman is going to want to develop his investment in Varlamov. You don’t give up on a goalie like that after one rough season.
Nor do you give up the guy (solid goalie) behind him, who has stepped in an played a pivotal role in keeping the Avs playoffs hope alive (in Giguere). Unless you get something solid in return.
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Can’t sell the Avs “full time” goalie coach though
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Did he find Raycroft’s bong?
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 22, 2012 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
I agree but if they got say Saad or maybe traded to SJ with maybe Jones and a 2nd for Pavelski type deal. SJ, Chicago, Philly really need a goalie IMO and with his SC experience I think his value is really high right now. So, if they trade him and sign Harding as a back-up in FA I think that’s a agood move. Maybe Philly would part with JVR for say Jiggy, Barrie, and a 1st in 2013.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
Chicago has made it pretty clear they aren’t changing their goalie tandem this year. They have confidence in Crawford/Emery…
They are looking for solid D help
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Chicago has made it pretty clear they aren’t changing their goalie tandem this year. They have confidence in Crawford/Emery…
Why?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I agree, I think Chicago would def. have an interest in Jiggy. Maybe SOB and Jiggy for Saad or Mcneil
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
No thanks.
If we gave SOB and Jiggy i’d be expecting a more Bollandish return
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
I like him but where would we play him, he’s a third line center, the one thing the avs have enough of is centers. Mcneil is too I believe tho. Saad makes sense
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
In the long run maybe, but Jiggy and SOB is a lot to give up for a guy not in the NHL and not named Huberdeau, Hamilton, Strome, Brodin or Zibanejad
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
Crawford is their long hope, and finally looks like he is turning the corner, and Emery is their insurance policy. Bowman is stubborn about “his guys” and those are both his
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No, that herd will thin at the draft
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
Vermette to Phoenix.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Per TSN Bob MacKenzie.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Their goalie problems are solved
#CBJ also get G Curtis McElhinney in the deal.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
LOL
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
Where has he not played at this point. Guy has been basically everywhere
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I remember last year he was traded, then waived, then picked up all within about a week, if I remember correctly.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
“We need goaltending”
“QUICK!”
“YES!”
“No I wasn’t finished. QUICK! To the McBackup signal!”
“…”
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 22, 2012 11:24 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
good pick up for phoenix, like everyone in columbus he was having a down year, but like Jones, he has once scored 27 goals.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 1:37 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, right.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 4:39 PM MST up reply actions
Avalanche after the Downie deal
Officially have the lowest pay roll in the nhl.
Colorado Avalanche Stanley Cups: 2
Vancouver Canucks Stanley Cups: 0
That's all that matters.
I thought you were going?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
don’t be a dick
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
In the words of George W
Mission Accomplished
Colorado Avalanche Stanley Cups: 2
Vancouver Canucks Stanley Cups: 0
That's all that matters.
Two tough guys makin' friends at the rink today
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by andidee15 on Feb 22, 2012 11:16 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
Good cause they do have a bit of history and it’s not the invite you over for dinner kind either.
by Hobbes Hiltz on Feb 22, 2012 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
Downie- OReilly – Landeskog as per Avs twitter
Can a full line win a Selke?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:17 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Haha. That line is going to cause mayhem. They’ll be DOLing out the hits.
Ha. Ha ha.
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by c6hor8 on Feb 22, 2012 11:18 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh dear lord, that line is going to KILL LA.
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Ya a tired LA, overtime last night, travel then match up against that line? yikes
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
Do they Avs have a surplus of stretchers at the can tonight?
by Hobbes Hiltz on Feb 22, 2012 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
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by Dixomatic on Feb 22, 2012 11:20 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Much rather see Downie on SoS’ wing.
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I dont like Duchene with Landy and OReilly though, Duchene was better with Stazz and Downie can probably fit with either
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
I’d like to see someone with some spunk play with Stastny, he’s been way too easy to play against this year.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 1:38 PM MST up reply actions
That's what happens when you don't shoot >_<
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:39 PM MST up reply actions
or skate or check.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
Post said Radar, Duchene, and Landy were staying together?
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
if they did, they were mistaken
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
That’s where they played yesterday at practice before the trade. I’m sure sacco wanted to see what chemistry downie had with whom at morning skate before deciding for sure.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
Ron Wilson'd
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
I thought they were gonna do dutchy oreilly and landy?
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That's all that matters.
Dutchy is either back at Center of playing with Stastny.
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My guess is that the Dutch/Stazz/Duke line is back
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Duke’s top six days may be numbered. If Downie gels with Landy and O’Reilly, then Mueller returns …
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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
for now:
Duchene-Stazz-Duke (lets hope they get their shit together)
Landy-OReilly-Downie (#Selke)
Winnik-VDG-Jones
McL-McC-Suba
in a week?
I bet with Mueller and Gali back Duchene moves to center
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
VDG is sitting along with Ports
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
interesting. I’m surprised on VDG
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
McLeod
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
I would sit subaru instead. I think they should put subaru on waivers and see if he gets picked up.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
i think thats silly. its also impossible given the cap (i think).
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
you may be correct on cap but where would he play next year and why not use that money on a top 9 guy? It makes no sense to play him on 4th line, VDG a lot cheaper and just as good
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
Makes no sense to lose him for nothing either. He’s done his job well, done what he’s been asked, you dont develop a good organizational reputation by kicking those guys to the curb
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
trade him? why the hell would you let him go for nothing?
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
this
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
I think VDG and Cody will flipflop out dpending on the opponent (since he has to clear waivers).
by Hobbes Hiltz on Feb 22, 2012 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
when healthy
Mueller-Stas-Downie
Landy-Radar-Duchene (that’s per DP today)
Duke-Olver-Jones
winnik-j-gali
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
Looks good to me, of course this is pre-Shermantopia trade deadline.
by Hobbes Hiltz on Feb 22, 2012 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
I think Olver will be returned when Mueller is healthy. Olver’s not a bottom six guy, nor can he beat out Square Peg for situations like d-zone faceoffs or penalty kill.
Duchene-Stastny-Mueller/Downie
Landy-O’Reilly-Mueller/Downie
Winnik-Mc-Hejduk
Jones-Gali-Subaru
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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
That’s kind of where I’ve been headed too. Saddens me though because Olver is pretty damn good. I like him better than Jones, tbh.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
Maybe he’ll never leave? after all, Jones is gone monday
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
Same. At least I never have to question whether or not Olver gives a damn out there.
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I’ll miss the few games per season in which he actually contributes.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 22, 2012 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
Me too, that’s what they used yesterday in practice per Dater prior to the trade. TBH this doesn’t make too much sense.
by Hobbes Hiltz on Feb 22, 2012 11:20 AM MST up reply actions
Dater says it sounds like Avs arent done, not hearing Stastny’s name. It sound unthinkable…. but Duchene?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:26 AM MST reply actions
No way
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
What?
No. Dater said Duchene or are you saying this
Colorado Avalanche Stanley Cups: 2
Vancouver Canucks Stanley Cups: 0
That's all that matters.
I’m saying Duchene. Surplus of centers….. So if not Duchene, OReilly? Its hypothetical, but isnt that a way to get the legit winger we want?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
can’t see it happening
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 22, 2012 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
No….just no…..they WILL NOT get fair trade value for him.
by Hobbes Hiltz on Feb 22, 2012 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
adater @adater Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Some high-ranking people: “almost everyone on Avs in play except three or four guys”
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
Landeskog
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
Untouchables:
Landy, EJ, Duchene, Factor
Available given a REALLY good offer:
Stats, Varly, Giggy
Available:
Most everyone else
I’m more or less on board with this
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 22, 2012 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t think Sherman trades Varly this soon… especially the price he paid.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I think Radar, Landeskog, Duchene are the only safe players. Maybe EJ.
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by Lost Winter on Feb 22, 2012 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
My guess: Landeskog, Hejduk, O’Reilly.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 4:42 PM MST up reply actions
Talking to people around the league and it’s become clear to me: Avs are definitely not done dealing. But I’m not hearing Stastny involved
Some high-ranking people: “almost everyone on Avs in play except three or four guys”
- Dater.
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
by Tony Trujillo on Feb 22, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
Dutchy Oreilly Landeskog Johnson (and varly)
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Vancouver Canucks Stanley Cups: 0
That's all that matters.
yep, exactly. wonder if Duke will want to go to a contender?
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
I’d actually like to see that just to view the resulting carnage here. The freak out would be epic.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
There’s not enough popcorn in the world …
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"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
this
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
I would cry
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
It all depends on what is coming back.
I have no real attachment to Duchene. I feel like his personality fits in, and that’s worth something. I would be far more upset at losing Radar than I would at losing Duchene. (I swear I’m not here. Just popped in while lunch is cooking)
be far more upset at losing Radar than I would at losing Duchene
What the fuck?! lol
I love factor, but the ceiling on Duchene is so much higher.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Emotional attachments make us more upset than potential differentials. I would cry many manly tears if we lost Radar
If it wasn’t for what was going in my personal life (cousin passed away due to domestic violence) , I would have cried when Lappy signed with the Flyers.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 4:43 PM MST up reply actions
It is difficult to get a player like Radar on your roster. They seem to develop unexpectedly. We can buy another Duchene, but I’m not convinced that we can buy another O’Reilly.
We can buy what Duchene is now…. but can we buy what Duchene is supposed to be? A franchise center as he was pegged?
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
It’s possible that he will become that, this is true. And if he does, then it would be very costly to acquire a similar player.
He isn’t that player, yet, though.
My ideal situation is to lose neither… but I think we could get a good return for Duchene by playing off of what you just said. Duchene has a high ceiling and the potential to become a franchise center. I’m not convinced that we could get a truly equitable return for O’Reilly yet.
Yes! That’s exactly what I’d be looking for! Crying, raging, rage quitting, quitting in a rage, the end of fandom, the loss of innocence. All that stuff.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
by DiD on Feb 22, 2012 12:22 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
It would be like that party in my Mom’s basement!
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 22, 2012 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
What happen….you know what? Nevermind
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wise choice
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 22, 2012 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
Duchene for Parise. Thoughts?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:30 AM MST reply actions
Player for Player, contracts aside, would you do it?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
Hell yes.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
interesting…
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
ditto
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
I second your ditto.
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Or, just wait for free agency and offer Parise more money than other teams. That way you keep Duchene. Crazy, I know.
I'll keep this brief.
by Dario on Feb 22, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
From Moser
Ok…..so you heard….Downie goes with 92 and 37. How’d you like to go 200 feet against that line for 60 mins. every night? Oh man.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Can we just call that the Line of Doom?
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LO’RD line. Except it’s Downie instead of Duke.
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by andidee15 on Feb 22, 2012 11:36 AM MST up reply actions 4 recs
Rec’d simply for the taking Howard’s crown
by Hobbes Hiltz on Feb 22, 2012 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
Selke’d it right off his ugly little head
by LeonardoC6 on Feb 22, 2012 11:54 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
NO, HE’LL BRING SCORING!!!
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
Regression to the mean?
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
He’ll bring a ton of salary floor flexibility when we unload Stastny for a 3rd rounder and an expiring contract!
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 22, 2012 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
I doubt they will ask for such a high draft pick…
Go Avs.
Go Blues.
by Tony Trujillo on Feb 22, 2012 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
Why are people freaking out that Dater says the Avs aren’t done? That was our consensus yesterday, no?
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
His implication that Duchene is available.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
no that was my implication. about stastny being not available. does that open up duchene
Dater suggested that the whole team -3 or 4 guys is available
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
Which he implied how? By not explicitly denying? He said there’s 3 or 4 guys not in play, why couldn’t Duchene be one of them?
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
what I was thinking. There’s no way just b/c he’s a RFA and face of team if nothing else. For who? He’s only 21
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
I think trading Duchene is probably the biggest mistake we could possibly make.
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I agree. It would have to be one hell of a package for me to even consider it, and even then, I don’t think it’s a good idea.
Matt’s only going to get better.
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Ok. But do you think its a good idea to permanently switch him to wing?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
Yes. I think it opens up the ice for him and allows him to use his skating/stick handling more. It also frees him of some defensive responsibility, which is probably a good thing.
If he can develop a strong chemistry as Stastny’s wing, I am 100% behind him staying there.
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interesting. I think he needs to be back at center
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
I think that “everyone is in play” is the issue
by Hobbes Hiltz on Feb 22, 2012 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, the flood gates have opened. Even in class, I think I’m going to keep this tread up so if something goes down I’ll know about it.
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Big Jeff had a hatty last night, has more goals than stas, smaller contract, why the negativtity on him? He’s a very good player. Stas has exactly 37 pts, Kyle Wellwood has 36, Rich Peverly 38, case closed.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 11:41 AM MST up reply actions
case closed.
How does that close the case?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
One healthy night amid a season of terrible disappointment where he was supposed to be all world with Nash. He’s not
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by chiavsfan on Feb 22, 2012 12:02 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, but he still has more goals and same pt/game as stas on a horrible team.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 12:07 PM MST up reply actions
It’s the attitude thing. He threw a hissy fit when he got sent to Columbus, and there’s a great deal of speculation that his parting and attitude is what got him kicked out of Philly in the first place.
He might be a good hockey player, but I don’t want a locker room cancer around our young guns.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
also terrible contract
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
That too. Ew.
Like I said, DO NOT WANT.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
I think that stuff is way overblown (like quincey stuff). I haven’t heard anything this year out of CLBS bout him, nada. Who wouldn’t be mad? He is established in Philly, on a good team, doesn’t see it coming, and goes to a doormat.
He is a proven scorer with a much lower contract (5.2 cap hit) than stas? He has a long term deal but there’s not a NTC I assume as he was traded so we could still trade him in a few years and his contract (if he produces) would be attractive.
We need scorers badly, he’s only 27 and we still have Radar, Dutchy as centers too so still a good top 3 centers. I think you guys are way too hung up on his supoosed bad attitude. I will predict by end of year he will have better pts/game than stas.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 12:12 PM MST up reply actions
I’m gonna use ezbreezy logic here, Stastny has exactly 37 pts, Carter has 25 pts. (projects to 36.5 in the same amount of games as Stastny), case closed.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
Carter is
A) Not good in the room
B) Not as good as his contract
C) Not as good in the West
D) Had inflated numbers on some stacked Philly squads.
He’s CBJ’s problem now, and I think they’ll have a hard time getting rid of him. Its like trading for a worse Danny Heatley and having to keep him forever
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
Stas is
A) Not good
B) Not as good as his contract
C) Not as good as Carter
D) Had inflated numbers on some stacked Avs squads.
just kiddin but almost the same can be said of stas except locker room stuff. He’s at 5.2M, it could be argued it’s a great deal, he’s scored 30+ goals in last few years. Stas has just underperformed, I can’t make excuses for that. ROR has more pts playing with landy and (for a long time) winnik. He’s supposed to make the guys around him better. He only had 57 pts last year, it’s not a one year thing.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
Stacked Avs squads? There hasn’t been a stacked Avs squad since before the lockout. There have been some good Avs squads, but nothing I would ever call stacked
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fair enough but he def benefited playing with some good players his first couple years. He can’t make Jones into Cheecho if ya know what I’m saying. I really think Carter would fit great here. Him and Nash are too alike IMO thus there wasn’t too much chemistry but he got hurt too.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
He had 57 points in 74 games last season, admittedly a down season. You are aware of how god awful last year’s team was right? It wasn’t SoS. It was organization-wide. His goals were right in his usual wheelhouse but his assists were way down. You think the lack of scoring from ANYBODY else on the team might have affected his numbers?
The season before he had 79 points in 81 games and 3 pts in 6 Olympic contests. The season before that, 36 points in 45 due to injuries. The season prior: 71 in 66. Those are good numbers. They are not NOT GOOD.
Conversely, your boy Carter had 66 points in 80 games last year on a PLAYOFF TEAM. The four seasons prior look like this:
61 in 74
84 in 82
53 in 82
37 in 62.
Do you know what an outlier is? I’ll give you a hint. It’s 84 in 82.
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then why does Carter, playing on worst team in league, having a bad year, have more goals and same pts/game this year as stats? we need goal scorers IMO, Carter had a hat trick last night, something stas may do once in his career. I just think you are underestimating him. Playoffs and point scoring are mutually exclusive subjects BTW. Don’t believe me, Look at Lemieux’s first few years with Pens.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions
because he scored 6 of them, in 2 games. Outside of that, he has 9 goals. Chris Stewart all over again.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:02 PM MST up reply actions
he’s only played 39 games, that’s a pace for 31 goals?
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:10 PM MST up reply actions
Stats has already had a hat trick.
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You said “may do”…he already has
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Let’s not argue semantics, now. After all, Gaunce didn’t ACTUALLY play in the NHL before Elliott since Elliott has played more games than he.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
Don’t be a dick.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
I have enjoyed my dickishness this week. It will most likely be gone by Friday.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
You’re not going to keep it until your trip to OKC?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I can revive it for you if you like.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
This is trolling.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Don’t be a dick.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
There's a lot of dick in this thread
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
i wasn’t saying it wasn’t I was speaking to his inconsistency and his burst of huge point nights.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:11 PM MST up reply actions
Also about Stastny
is the guy has been playing with Stewart and Jones the last two years. Both guys had career years with him as their center and both guys have struggled mightily without him. How much of that is Stastny being an elite playmaker?
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
well none obviously
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
Trade him for The Bozak!
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:32 PM MST up reply actions
Do we have to capitalize THE?
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is he not The Bozak rather than the Bozak? I feel like his awesomeness requires the “The” to be capitalized.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:34 PM MST up reply actions
Oh, okay
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
meter. up. =)
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
I’m just surprised how much him and his 37 pts get defended. I’m done talking about him. IMO he’s the worst no 1 center in west.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:37 PM MST up reply actions
he also isn’t a true number 1 center, better as a number 2 center. He’s just a number 1 center by virtue that he is on a team who doesn’t have a true number 1 center.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
You’re aware that he’s played more than just this season right? Maybe that’s where the confusion comes from. Also, have you watched him play? Did you hate him before this year?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I don’t hate him but he’s an underachiever IMO. I would trade him personally for a top wing.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:43 PM MST up reply actions
Calgary offers Iginla
Do you do it?
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
no, only cause of age. I would take Ryan in a heartbeat.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
Top wings...with a caveat.
I see. Your argument continues to crumble all around you. Sorry for being a homer and thinking Stastny is good at hockey.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
Yes, you advocate going after Whitney every other day. For a 4th rounder.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
for a 4th rd pick, the whole pt. quit trolling me
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
That’s not a straw man really. He was pointing out the hypocrisy independantly of any point you made. For a straw man, he has to essentially put words in your mouth. He didn’t.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
No you just said age matters but you have been pushing the question as to why the Avs NEVER WOULD EVEN THINK ABOUT GIVING A 4TH ROUND PICK FOR WHITNEY!?!?!?! GRAARABBLERABBLERABBLE
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
No, I said they should get whitney for a 4th to try to make playoffs and as a short term guy. I still believe that. I never said trade stas for him? WTF are you talkin about? Age matters in a trade for Stas, not to add a guy. I still like Doan for next year too.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
I like Doan in a nursing home next year.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
You, PHX, and his mom are the only people who like Doan.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
so let’s use facts as you guys like to do:
He has 18 goals, more than anybody we have, still hits hard, is a good leader. I watched him last night, he played over 23 minutes, is reprtoedly one of the best conditioned guys in league. why would he not be a good fit for say 2 years?
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
so let’s use facts as you guys like to do:
for some reason, I found this very humorous.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
Yup, and a dick.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
BLACK MAMBA
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
lolz
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
So you’d want to pay money to a 37-year-old version of Paul Stastny? Seriously, go look at his nhl.com stat page. I’ll even give you linkage.
Seriously, look at it. Don’t cherry pick your one goal stat and thump your fucking chest. He’s 35 and his production the last 4-5 years has mirrored SoS who’s much younger and still has prime years in front of him. It’s obvious looking at Doan’s stats that he’s tailing off in his career. Now tell me how SoS has underfuckingperformed but signing Doan till he’s 37 is a good idea!
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“Because he is not Stastny”…case closed
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I did not say he was better than Stas, once again, WTF (besides trolling me) are you talking about? You don’t think as a third line guy he would be a good addition next year? Then you can use Gali there.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
You have said Stastny sucks and is horrible, right? Ergo, anyone you would want to bring on the team would have to be better than that. After all, you wouldn’t want to sign a guy who sucks and is horrible. Right?
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
no, at 6.6M and 1st line center he is not that good.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
We are talking talent vs talent right now. No money. No perceived lines. No age. Is Stastny better or worse than Doan?
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
you go find where we are comparing Stas to Doan talent wise. The thread was about whitney, etc. I said I’m not against age per se, never said I would trade stas for a 39 yr old guy. Troll!
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
I’m not trolling. I’m asking a question and setting parameters for that question so that there isn’t any confusion.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
You still didn’t answer the question.
Answer the question, Claire.
Claire, just answer the question.
It’s not a hard question to answer, Claire.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:41 PM MST up reply actions
Where's yo head at?
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
Is Stastny better or worse than Doan?
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
better, but that was never the topic. ever.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
lol
Dude, I never said it was. It was a question I came up with because some of the conversation confused me. You kind of go all over the board when you make an argument and assume we all know exactly what you said about whom, regardless of whether or not you use clear antecedents for your pronouns.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
ants have nothing to do with it. they are a bug
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:55 PM MST up reply actions
urface is a bug
sup
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:55 PM MST up reply actions
I believe he said “Stastny is a pussy”
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I def. said that! I’m a dick, sorry. That’s one reason I like Carter better, he’s 6" 3" , can use his size to his advantage.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
So you’d pay a 37-year-old Doan good money for 3rd line minutes and declining production when we’ve got young guys who can match that production (with a higher ceiling) for pennies. Ohh and his contract has a ton of baggage due to his age and would be an albatross for waivers, etc.
Explain how this is a good plan?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
SPEND MONEY
GET BITCHES
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
...secret?
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
he has 18 goals and 1 less pt than Stas. What young guys do we have who could do that on 3rd line? That would currently make him the highest goal scorer on our team. He would be 3rd in pts, 35 is not dead. He hits, leads by example and we have a young team where he could be a good role model. Great guy too.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
He's also not leaving Phoenix
He’s the only face that franchise has had since Tkachuk left
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
uh what? I only have a slight grasp on the straw man, but he didn’t even state your argument, let alone construe it in any way.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:31 PM MST up reply actions
we were talking about whether it would make sense to sign him and THEN, all of a sudden the argument was , well, he’s not leaving.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
not a straw man, just changing the subject to another (valid mind you) point.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
hell yeah
I don’t even have to defend myself on this one haha
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
DO you even know what arguments you have made at this point? You are just pulling random crap out of your butt…then when you are called on it with your exact quote you scream and yell like a petulant child.
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who’s screaming and yelling? I stated exactly why I like Doan.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
So you’re talking about a Hejduk (this season’s version)replacement then? You really think that’s an effective use of some of that sweet, sweet cap floor money?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I would rather have a 25 year old but he is slated to be a UFA so we don’t give up anything. If we sign Parise here’s a scenario
Parise-Stas-Mueller
Landy-ROR-Downie
Mueller-Dutchy-Doan
Jones and Duke gone, I like those lines
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
So you’re going to double shift Major Concussion and have him switch wings?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Listen
be ezbreezy with this chill ass plan, dawg. Take a drink. Let the brilliance wash over you, man.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
i love that nick name
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
I saw you use it
and felt a swell of pride <3
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
ha, I’m fine. It’s just a thought. Sure it won’t happen anyway.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
uh oh, just saw the Dr’s name pop up, shit! here’s some a water-boarding! hear the bubbles?
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
worth a try, he’s not old. Why not? but if you insist we can play subaru and gali on top 9 and suck.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
Better than double-shifting his sidekick, Private Groin Pull.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
WTF are you talkin about? I didn’t say give him 6.6M? I said he would be a good player for us for obviously the right deal. I didn’t say he would replace Stas?
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
Where did I say he’d replace Stats? I repeated your opinion that SoS is over-reated due to his goal/point production THIS YEAR and then asked how you can have that opinion of his performance but still want to sigh a much older player at the same output who will only decline further?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
yuo’re forgetting ONE thing, at 3M, not 6.6M
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
What does his salary have to do with a salary floor team?
You’re grasping…
and that was a straw man by you BTW.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
So,
I hope that Brad Richardson doesn’t score on us AGAIN tonight.
That would suck.
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no, you’re grasping. At 3M-3.5M for 2 years I love that deal. Not a straw man, I never said pay him 6M?
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
So now we get to the particulars (which you didn’t provide initially or even tertiary-ily). Your plan is to pay Doan Hejduk’s salary (plus a raise) for two seasons of third line play and declining return on that investment?
Doan may be a good guy and he’s a good (albeit waning) player and I would love to have had him on the Avs about 3 years ago. Now? Not so much.
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if my choice is gali or subaru I’ll take him.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:41 PM MST up reply actions
The point being, we’ve already taken him, his name is Kobasew and he hasn’t done shit in third line duty.
In your fantasy world of NHL GM and Agent Bat-Fuck Crazy Land, do you honestly think they’d land Doan for $3+ million and 3rd line minutes?
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based on this thread yes. He’s old, sucks, only nursing homes want him!
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:53 PM MST up reply actions
jesus calm down man
be more ez, maybe a touch breezy, ya dig?
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
Do not want.
Blech, I don’t like Doan… even the slightest bit. Dislike him more than Avery by leaps and bounds.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 4:46 PM MST up reply actions
So hey
Will you do a little favor for me? I wanna know exactly where you place Stastny on the totem pole of centers. In your opinion, can you give me a quick, off the top of your head list of every center better than him? Doesn’t have to be some research project, just off the cuff. Hit me brah
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not even being a dick for once
I’m legitimately curious in this list.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:58 PM MST up reply actions
Hard to make a list of where he ranks w/o researching it but here’s guys I like better,
Thornton
Sedin
Eberle
Kopitar
Oshie
Malkin
Tavares
Staal
Kessel
Bergeron
Franzen
Datsyuk
Spezza
Toews
Richards
there’s a few
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:05 PM MST up reply actions
Glovetap, c6
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
Which Richards?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 2:07 PM MST up reply actions
Kessel
What?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Wings/Centers are interchangeable
Eberle, Kessel, whatever
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:09 PM MST up reply actions
Eberle was a center, not arguing that he has played wing.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
TSN had this
C Jordan Eberle 55 26 32 58
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah
He plays a lot of wing, though
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:14 PM MST up reply actions
Fallacy Alert
argumentum ad verecundiam
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by c6hor8 on Feb 22, 2012 2:16 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
argumentum ad verecundiam
mmmm ya, talk dirty to me
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
and nhl had rw
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
What the fuck?!
You’re reaching with at least 3-4, the others are debatable….
You left off Crosby damnit!
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
can’t be a good center if you don’t play… hahaha
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:54 PM MST up reply actions
Really?
You’d take Mike Fisher over Stastny?
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:42 PM MST up reply actions
And Horcoff
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Who plays center in Phoenix anymore?
Aren’t all their best players Wings? Martin Hanzal is a center, right? I guess he’s on the list, too
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
plays most frequently on RW
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Patrick Kane is a center too, but still plays wing the majority of the time, therefore making him a winger, first and foremost.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
he’s a center
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Damn
That 19.3 shooting percentage makes you say “hmmm…”
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
and his PDO is 973, which means he is unlucky, correct? Jesus christ.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:57 PM MST up reply actions
That's insane lol
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:58 PM MST up reply actions
HA
I lied, the stats were automatically set on last year, this year it is 1036, insanely high.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
Okay
This coupled with that shooting percentage makes way more sense. I was gonna say man…
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
yeah, he looked like a 50 goal scorer with that low PDO
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
He’s incredible. I have no doubt that he’ll be one of the NHL’s best
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
my stat was a lie, see above.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
regardless
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
I’m sorry but what?! RNH is better than Stastny currently?!
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
points are all that count bro.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:54 PM MST up reply actions
MHH: Points are all that counts.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
well he does have 37 pts in 51 games as opposed to 57, sounds like Fisher is better
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
he has the same pts? you could argue that for sure. Maybe Phoenix too. He’s def. not top 8
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
so you go from the worst (#15) first line center in the west, to def not top at, (#15-9)?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
may have reached there! that’s a fair criticism
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
I try.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:49 PM MST up reply actions
I know I’m very late to this party but Stastny has scored more points in his career with Hejduk, Smyth, Brunette, and CGDS (emphasis on location of GD) than he ever did with Sakic or Forsberg. The assists don’t lie
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Add to it that Stastny has a good two way game, Carter not so much
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
keep your poisonous trades away!
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
Moser asking for ideas on the Landy – Radar – Downie line.
“LOL” line.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:37 AM MST reply actions
AJ Likes my other one:
“Aaannnnd You’re Dead” line.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
I really like the “UMAD” line
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
Lol! I like that one too!
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that was my fave too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:40 AM MST up reply actions
We’ve got a list going.
I like Line of Doom or LO’RD line.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Get The Fuck Off My Puck line
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
The “We’d be an awesome 3rd line on most teams, but on this bargain basement team with two underperforming stars we’re number 1” line? A little bit long? Not too catchy?
I love ROR and Landy, but to me this is the sad truth.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 22, 2012 11:48 AM MST up reply actions
I disagree on 3rd line. Def shouldn’t be first tho.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
depends on the team philosophy. They are the PERFECT Nashville or Phoenix first line, they are not however, a Chicago 1st line
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
Isn’t Vancouver’s second line set up a bit like the O’Reilly line is now? I’m not an expert on the ‘Nucks by any means, but don’t they have a more defensive 2nd line that’s centered by a Selke player (Kesler)?
Honestly, it’s a system that I could see working for us with Stats and Dutch on the top line. Just hopefully with much MUCH less diving.
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yes
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:56 AM MST up reply actions
This was my arguement in another thread. The best offensive teams have two scoring lines with vastily contrasing styles (typical one finesse/skill, one crash mayhem physical scoring).
by Hobbes Hiltz on Feb 22, 2012 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
That actually makes a lot of sense.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Speaking of our new line
Anyone know (probably not even tracked) if there is a record for most PIM drawn by one line?
Sedins probably hold it. Something about the refs seeing lots of tripping penalties all the time, like really bad ones, where the guy just goes soaring through the air
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
Besides, O’Reilly is super disciplined and Landy only takes goalie interference penalties.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
Well, Radar and Landy actually don’t get many penalties (besides the obligatory Landeskog Goaltender Interference calls)
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jinx!
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 11:45 AM MST up reply actions
Penalties “drawn” not taken.
Although I’m sure Downie can carry the taken load all on his own lol.
by Hobbes Hiltz on Feb 22, 2012 11:56 AM MST up reply actions
Ah. Okay.
Well, for our team, Dutchy is actually the best penalty drawer. And I’ve heard Downie likes to take them. We’ll see though. I’m excited to see how this line works.
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Oh what could’ve been. Just imagine a Yip – Gali -Downie line…
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 22, 2012 1:30 PM MST up reply actions
I know.. I feel like I’ve been high sticked in the face just thinking about it.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 22, 2012 1:34 PM MST up reply actions
I just realized that I think Stastny is gone now. The rule is, if you hear a whisper about it, it won’t happen. The fact that Dater is hearing things and Stastny is not mentioned, means he’s gone.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I’m ok with this depending on the return
by Hobbes Hiltz on Feb 22, 2012 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
the return would need to be at least 5.6 million
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
The return can be 2.7 according to cap geek…
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
FUCK FUCK FUCK DELETE THIS!
you know Kroenke reads this right?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
by Dixomatic on Feb 22, 2012 12:01 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I would say, if Stazz isnt gone on Monday, he’s here for the long haul. I dont think he’s gone
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t want him gone… but something’s off with him offensively and we’d be selling short.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
He’s been stellar in his last 20 ish games
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
He lowers our expectations… and blows us away!!!
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
He wasn’t stellar against Winnipeg, and 1 goal in 12 games isn’t stellar, either.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
lots of assist, better defensively of late and was over a PPG for a while there. Ya, 1 goal, but many many goals that he just fucking handed to other guys
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
He’s not a goal scorer… so it makes sense why he has more assists.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
23 assists in 57 games, not an assist guy either. that is scary to call him your number one center. The problem is peeps are right, he doens’t have a high trade value right now.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 12:27 PM MST up reply actions
thank you! enough of his imaginary awesomeness
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 12:25 PM MST up reply actions
I thought he looked like he was in ‘operation shutdown’ against Winnipeg.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
you guys are all cuckoo in the head if you think Stastny is going to be traded….blatant loonieness…..
"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."
by KKtheHippie on Feb 22, 2012 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
Oh you and your common sense.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 4:48 PM MST up reply actions
Stastny for Gomez (e4)
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:05 PM MST reply actions
hey, you wanted spending right?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
Anyone else notice that this is the time of year when every post basically turns into a trade thread?
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 22, 2012 12:07 PM MST reply actions
Yep. Yay deadline week!
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CapGeek has a really cool feature of how much the team can shed (3.924 M) or gain (70M) at the deadline.
These terms are on yearly Salary Cap hit acquired I believe… not how much is remaining in the season…
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
We could pick up 9 Scott Gomezes!
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 22, 2012 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
and some wade reddens to boot
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
i;m sorry.. 70 million? :O
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
We’re number 1!
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 22, 2012 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
Why does it feel like number 2?
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Ken Klee!
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
Remember, that 70M is the calculation based off how much time is left in the season….
I think it’s the opposite of changing everyone’s Salary Cap hits to reflect how much they really cost at the trade deadline…
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I know, its insane though! Thats so much moneyz.
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
they could buy like 4 seats in the lower bowl!
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
Adrian Dater on Marek vs Wyshynski discussing the trade. Not sure when he comes on though. But soon.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Just got on.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Let me know what Dater says. I have to go to class.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
Just backing up his story about how the Avs are too easy to play against and they could really use a player like Downie.
Also Quincey never panned out like the Avs wanted, a true 1-3 d-man.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I love Brad Marchand. I hope he’s in that same type of mold.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
this
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
:D
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
He single handidly killed the Sedins… please for the love of god be like Marchand!!!
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I have a sneaking suspicion the Avs Front Office hopes a player like Downie will help with our Divisional Record
wouldnt that be nice
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
first thing he said was
“Don’t go to class, andidee!”
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 22, 2012 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
Stastny would be a summer move if it happened.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Nash too
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
Doesn’t think Nash is going anywhere because they can get more in the summer.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
does think he’ll be traded though
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
No. Too hard to move, but he thinks either him or Carter.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I misunderstood then, I thought he was saying its looking more and more like he’ll leave, just not until summer
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
I think he has a no trade clause kicking in soon.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
He has a no movement clause (can’t be shipped to the minors like Redden et al) through the 14-15 season. Thereafter, it becomes a no trade clause. He’s agreed to waive that NMC if the deal works for him, though.
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thanks, I guess I could have looked that up myself….being lazy today.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
as long PL is with the Avs, they will not trade with Detroit.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
If that’s true, I think it’s crap. Had no problem signing May from Vancouver, but he won’t deal with Detroit? Come on, that smells like bullshit to me (with a whiff of “Fierce” by Abercrombie and Fitch).
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
Wasn’t it reported that Sherman didn’t like the deal.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
It was reported by Holland that he and Sherm were talking, but that neither guy liked the offer.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
Sherm: You can suck me off, asshole!
Holland: Go fuck yourself!
It was reported by Holland that he and Sherm were talking, but that neither guy liked the offer.
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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 22, 2012 3:13 PM MST up reply actions 4 recs
MHH Hall of Fame
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 3:14 PM MST up reply actions
Asked about Detroit this year. He thinks they are better than the last years. Points out they have a losing record on the road.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Marek loves the Downie-O’Reilly-Landeskog line.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
that was awesome
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
Downie playing with Landy and Factor…
Jeff Marek had an orgasm hearing this (I kid you not)
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
that was awesome
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
Wilson longtime friends with Downie. Cool
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:23 PM MST reply actions
But Downie ran Varly in practice this morning. (e0.1)
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 22, 2012 12:25 PM MST up reply actions
Nah that was Sacco (e.001)
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:27 PM MST up reply actions
Both Wilson and O’Brien had good things to say about Downie.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
And Sacco seemed decidedly meh on Quincey
anytime you bring in a player like Steve you have to give up a good player, and we gave up a defenseman. We feel like we have a lot of depth at that position.
Full story from the Post, here:
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_20019821#ixzz1n8qPtEyz
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
very diplomatic response.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
So when did the Avs suddenly have “defensive depth”?
We don’t even have a set top 2 or good enough top 4 compared to a lot of teams… (I know we have prospects) but that doesn’t qualify as a depth when most of that is not currently on the team!
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
We’re getting Suter and Weber, haven’t you heard?
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it would not shock me to see Weber moved.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
There’s no way in hell the Avs land him lol.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Why does everyone seem to think we are so unappealing for FA’s?
If we actually manage to spend money and seriously pursue talent this off-season I think our youth, talent, and location are all very appealing for FA’s.
that’s what I’ve been saying for a long time but even though we have so many homers on this thread who say we are up and coming (which I believe if they spend money) none of them believe we can land a player. Never really understood it.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
Because since the glory days, the Avs just haven’t shown the willingness to do so…and when they did Smyth/Hannan, it basically slows up in their face
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travel is a big minus though
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
on a private plane with cocktail waitresses and lobsters and all your buddies. Playing cards and having fun. That would suck. Luckily, I get to stand in line and sit in a stinky seat!
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
Florida, a horseshit franchise if there ever was one, picked up some big names this past off season, and their travel is worse than ours, and they have to live most of the year in fucking Florida! If they can do it, we sure as hell can.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
I’m not saying we’re unappealing…
But two things have to happen:
A massive contract, a giant payday for Weber that I don’t think we can will pony up.
Doesn’t Weber want to play on a Stanley Cup contender? The Avs are not… we are a lot better with Weber and Johnson… but we’re not there yet.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I would be extremely shocked. Weber is Nashville hockey and trading him at the top of his game would be a shock to a burgeoning fanbase.
4th biggest pessimist of MHH.
"There's always next season." -- Jimmy Howard on not winning the Calder Trophy.
small market, have Suter to sign, just gave Rinne a huge deal, probably can’t afford both at 6.5M +, that’s the only reason. They also traded for Gill so a little depth too.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 12:46 PM MST up reply actions
Interesting, talking about how Steve Downie played with “contained rage” in the world juniors
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:40 PM MST reply actions
Ruuttu resigns with Canes
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Assuming no hiccups, Ruuttu expected to get a 4-year extension with a slight bump on the $3.8M he’s currently earning. #TradeCentre
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
darn.
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can’t believe he quit them
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 22, 2012 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
ick, he’s gettin $4.4
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:03 PM MST up reply actions
F that, that’s too much and too long
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:06 PM MST up reply actions
This is hilarious
You realize Tuomo Ruutu and Tomas Fleishmann have nearly identical per game scoring rates over the course of their careers, right? Yet you stand on a soapbox and fap in the middle of the courtyard for all to see about Flash and how great he is but Ruutu is too much for too long? This is why I can’t take you seriously.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:10 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Plus Ruutu is a bigger and more powerful forward.
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Like Ryan Malone?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Only more productive...
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:13 PM MST up reply actions
And with more U’s
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by chiavsfan on Feb 22, 2012 1:14 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
And has Eric Staal feeding him…
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:12 PM MST up reply actions
Who has had a pretty shitty season
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he has a -15, HE IS DA SUXXORS
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:15 PM MST up reply actions
Stall has finally started coming to life the last 15 games or so, even Canes fans were wondering what the hell was wrong with him early in the season
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wasn’t Skinner hurt earlier in the season?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:17 PM MST up reply actions
Concussed wasn’t he?
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I believe so, speaking of, word has it Toews may be concussed. How much do you think this impacts the team?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:23 PM MST up reply actions
A shit ton if it’s long term. THey played a good game last night, but Toews is still the heart and soul of that team. The “source” on the concussion is sketchy at best…but it’s 100% possible. I have to e-mail a friend of mine who is still covering the team and ask…she has never been wrong about an injury yet. (Of course, she is drop dead hot and things tend to slip around her that don’t slip to guy reporters)
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I know it was mentioned on Marek vs Wysh, but the reporter wasn’t mentioned.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
They guy who said it on our Sports station isn’t even a Hawks reporter…which is why it’s dodgy. It may be true, but he’s the only one saying it at the moment
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interesting.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:33 PM MST up reply actions
Q says Toews is progressing but will miss next game against Dallas. Considered day to day
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did he say what was injured?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
interesting
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
calm down. I like Flash but I have always agreed that his deal was too big. I did say the Avs could have afforded it tho b/c of our cap huggin ways and we need scoring soo bad. Flash has 44 this year, ruutu 30, not close.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:19 PM MST up reply actions
Do I need to go disprove this comment with another statement you’ve made?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I’ve said many times I would have liked to have kept him, very true. I never said his deal was great. You have to remember that Flash was buried in washington b/c they had so much scoring. His pts/game ceiling is a lot higher than Ruutu’s IMO. Staal has 49 pts, so his off year still pretty good.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
You stated REPEATEDLY that the Avs should have spent the required money to keep him. That implies two things: The required money is the actual money he is getting paid (which you now think is too much) and that getting paid was the only motivation for Flash’s ultimate destination and not, you know NOT DYING.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
One year a career does not make, man
Ruutu has been more productive for longer and now has a SMALLER contract than Flash. We could afford the Ruutu contract the same way we could afford the Flash one but for some reason one is acceptable and one isn’t. Derp.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:20 PM MST up reply actions
Ooof
McKenzie just said Ruutu’s deal is for $4.75 AAV. Alex Semin’s agent has to be freaking out right now
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
Once again, I NEVER said we couldn’t afford it, I said I personally don’t like that deal.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
Both deals are terrible
and if Flash wasn’t having a career year would you still have spent all season humping his leg? Neither guy is worth that kind of money.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:27 PM MST up reply actions
agreed, I think Flash is a 50-60 pt guy tho easy
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
One year a career does not make
Ryan Kesler says hi!
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Oh shit you know him?
Tell him I said wassup playa
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
I kicked him in the nuts when he asked me if I wanted a recreation of his nude photo.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
He hasn't had a bad year at all
and back-to-back 70 point seasons is encouraging but I imagine that 41 goals scored is going to look awful funny at the end of his career.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
Was anyone listening to that bit on toronto and goalie coaches?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:54 PM MST reply actions
yep
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
very interesting, saves vs blocking shots
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:55 PM MST up reply actions
really? Jiggy has abandoned his style many times to “make a save”
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
As he should. That’s what killed Luongo last year… he was relying too much on technique.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
i know
that was their distinction goalies who make saves are willing ot abandon style ot save the puck
goalies who block shots do not
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 1:00 PM MST up reply actions
It was more about a goalie’s ability to make a save when they are down and out. Like when Jiggy got run, theres a guy sitting on him and he gloved that shot up high, or the sprawling glove laying on his stomach
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 1:49 PM MST up reply actions
Wasn’t the biggest knock on Budaj that he wouldn’t break his “technique” to make saves?
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thats sort of what i thought
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
Ohh, I agree I was just saying that argument has been couched many different ways. Blocking goalies tend to be system goalies who have a technique option for particular saves. Rarely do they go with D. None of the above.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
gotcha, gotta say mike I always appreciate your perspective on this stuff, i know very little about goaltending
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
I only know marginally more than the average beer-leaguer so take my opinion with a grain of salt. All guys in the show battle, it’s just that some are quicker to realize they’re fucked and throw the kitchen sink at the puck. Others are stubborn and assume that if they made the first save there isn’t as high a demand on the 2nd and third.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Guess Toronto’s goalies are so bad that not even having a full-time goalie coach, the legendary Francois Allaire, can help them.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
Allaire has one style though. If you read Patrick Roy’s book, it’s stated that many goalies can’t adapt to his style, in fact very few have. Roy and Giguere are about the only ones that have been extremely successful under his watch
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Hmm. Then what makes him legendary, I wonder? Besides the cool name.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
What players did Downie have the most success with in his career and who you do think most resembles those guys on the avs?
Sakic 4 Sacco
What's the deal with Tostitos?
They’re way too big to fit in any ordinary person’s mouth. By necessity, you have to take more than one bite to eat a single chip. When you do, the damn things crumble into oblivion and get all over the floor.
This is a poorly designed chip.
by JProulx on Feb 22, 2012 1:50 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
They fit in my mouth, and I’d say my mouth is ordinarily sized.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
Dude
Fuckin preach. Why do you think they started making the short rounds? And don’t say because someone at Tostitos is a huge Indiana Jones fan
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
They don’t make the rounds in “Hint of Lime” flavour, do they?
I’m forced to make an impossible trade-off.
You live a rough life, my friend
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
Lots of hugs are important
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
first world problems
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 1:58 PM MST up reply actions
We should seriously start one of those.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:34 PM MST up reply actions
I’m still laughing over the Landon Ferraro one last night.
Peter McNabb thinks I'm outstanding.
by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 22, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
That was so funny
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
yes it was
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:36 PM MST up reply actions
Would be cool if we could bookmark comments or promote a comment based on rec’s to a Fanpost or something extremely HIGH TECH like that.
I'll keep this brief.
I know Rock Chalk Talk has a HOF
and it’s fun to get nostalgic and browse through it sometimes.
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
JP is bringing some Edmontonian goodness to the site lately. Came out of nowhere, almost like our own Jeremy Lin. Hope he can keep it up when he gets busy/Carmelo comes back.
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:16 PM MST up reply actions
PDO
just looked at our players’ PDO. We have 3 players, who have played 10 or more games, with a PDO over 1000, VDG with a 1058 (damn), Landy with a 1004 and Mules with a 1003. Everyone else is under 1000 and PDO proves that some hockey god somewhere is after Hunwick with a PDO of 929. For the record, Duchenes is 969 and Stastny is 976.
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo
remind me, under 1000 means they “should” be scoring more?
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
means they're unlucky, essentially
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
from what I understand, under 1000 means they are unlucky, the farther away they are from 1000 the more lucky (if higher) or unlucky (lower)
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
FWIW
The highest PDO in the league are Steve Kampfer and Steve Bernier with both over 1100, and the lowest is Eric Tangradi at 847.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
What GP parameters you using?
I try to use at least 30 to avoid those pesky 4 GP guys
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
I used ten, but using 30 we have… HARRY ZOLNIERCZYKK, that dude, at 896 for lowest and Derek Stepan at 1059 and Chris Kelly at 1056. Good call, I thought Kampfer and Bernier played more, hahaha.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
Ahhh yeah
I’m sure a few Boston guys are way up there in PDO. I know Seguin’s earlier this year was outrageous
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
Why does hockey hate the Poles?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.
I can’t not laugh at this picture.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
I’d be curious to see LA’s PDO with how few goals they’ve scored
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
SO LOOK IT UP
Just kidding brb
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:41 PM MST up reply actions
Welp
using the 30 GP parameter, their bottom 3 meaningful forwards in PDO are Brad Richardson (969), Simon Gagne (973), and Dustin Penner (975)
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
and they only have 4 players above 1000, Mike Richards being one, lol
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
LIAR!
Welp
using the 30 GP parameter, their bottom 3 meaningful forwards in PDO are Brad Richardson (969), Simon Gagne (973), and Dustin Penner (975)
Dustin Penner LEADS THE LEAGUE in Pancake Days Off!
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by Hopfenkopf on Feb 22, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
HOLY SHIT I CANT STOP LAUGHING
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
HOF!!!
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
(Not) Fun (anymore) fact
In our 3 games against LAK Quincey was highest scoring player on both teams with 5 points.
well shit, shoulda waited.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
Of course he was, he used to play for the Kings. He’ll hurt us on Saturday.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 4:53 PM MST up reply actions
Aaron Musick of HockeyBuzz.com wrote this per the trade:
As with every trade there are a lot of ifs but the Avs have been right on Erik Johnson, Jay McClement, Tomas Fleischmann, Peter Mueller, Shane O’Brien and Jean-Sebastien Giguere so they will get a smidgen of leeway on this one. Sure, Matt Hunwick hasn’t turned out and Semyon Varlamov is streaky but for the most part, the Avs’ scouts have done a great job talent scouting.
I know some or most of you will disagree…. but I agree that the Avs have been more right than wrong lately. (though that’s a mixed bag of UFA/trades…but trades have been good for us)
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I agree, and after my freakout yesterday, I remembered this. I think Sherman is making good moves. These moves may give me a heart attack, but I think they are helping the team.
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I see PDO suddenly getting tossed around here a lot. Yet another aggregate stat that treats all perturbations from the mean as luck. It’s just sv. pct (an aggregate measure of goaltending + defensive play) + shot percentage (more or less a measure of offensive skill).
If you look at last year’s team PDO rankings, it’s not a ranking of who’s the luckiest team. It shows the best teams, VAN and BOS leading.
Player rankings get even more messy, just like individual Corsi. Who are they playing against? How good is the player? How good are his linemates? I don’t think it’s quite accurate to call a player with low PDO unlucky or a high PDO lucky. Sometimes, maybe. Other times, it’s about skill or lack thereof. Really hard to tell which is which.
Like everything
it’s all about how you use the numbers. If you look at them and say ‘WELP, THAT’S THE WHOLE STORY" you’re an idiot and don’t deserve to have eyes. If you completely 100% disregard them, you’re a Minnesota fan (huzzah!). They gotsta work together and then you throw in your own brain and actual analysis and you should be able to make pretty well-reasoned judgments on players…right?
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 2:53 PM MST up reply actions
yeah, right. it’s an easily misinterpreted stat, imo. it’s too simplistic to call any deviation from 1000 luck.
Can't find the article,
but one of the corsiatti looked at PDO, and outliers like Vancouver and Boston. Boston has had a high PDO, thanks in large part to Thomas, and Vancouver has been >1000 because of The Sedins & Luongo (who tip the scales a little on both ends). Conversely Columbus has had a low PDO, hello Steve Mason.
So goaltending, mostly, can push PDO one way or another. But it’s still a pretty good measure of how lucky a person has been on the ice.
i.e. Steve Downie’s 1032 from a few years back may be pushed a little by playing with Stamkos, or St. Louis. But mostly he was lucky.
Maybe
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by Jibblescribbits on Feb 22, 2012 4:29 PM MST up reply actions
Thoughts?
Reading a Cajun restaurant menu, they have a Cheese Shrimp Sandwich: Stuffed w/ bacon, cheese, onion, lettuce, pickle, cheese w/ ranch dressing and mayo.
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Is the restaurant in Colorado?
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
nope, here on the Island of Staten.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
Is it cold or heated. If the shrimp is shrimp salad it would be good.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I’m not sure, may order it tonight, but I assume it is heated.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:07 PM MST up reply actions
Could you even taste the shrimp in all that? Bacon, cheese, onion, pickle, and ranch are all pretty dominant flavours.
Well, I wouldn’t have the onion
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
That sounds like what you need to order
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
Isn’t the mayo a little redundant in a sammich with ranch dressing?
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I agree, I may ask for no mayo too
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
Purposely trying to get into the MHH HoF with that quirky post?
Hawks fan #1: you're terrible landeskog
Hawks fan #2 He's not that bad
Hawks fan #1: he scores goals against us and makes me feel like a pedo. that’s two things
It’s legit, I’ll take a pic if I have to
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
JP! I thought we were on the same side, it seems this is a moment of pic or it didn’t happen, huh?
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions
it was an honest question! I dunno how I feel about it.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:24 PM MST up reply actions
I’d take the steak cheese sandwich first. Either way, one of those sandwiches would find its way into my stomach.
If it were the Gulf Coast, I’d do it in a heartbeat.
On Staten Island….
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I also won’t take the steak cheese sandwich (aka cheesesteak) cuz I went to undergrad near philly and refuse to eat a cheesesteak anywhere else.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:39 PM MST up reply actions
oh not sure if you saw
you were totally right on Downie not being on the PK, I thought it was a safe assumption given the fact that he lead his team in takeaways, good call!
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions
Haters gonna hate
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
What the fuck is stuffed lettuce?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I think it means stuffed with, aka it’s on it, crazy Staten Islanders.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:27 PM MST up reply actions
Staten Island is one of the few places in NY that’s worse than Jersey.
Varly!
by niwotsblessing on Feb 22, 2012 5:32 PM MST up reply actions
don’t be a dick
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:32 PM MST up reply actions
zoom in and enhance….
yes…. hmmmm
typetypetypetypetypetype execute
hmmm yes….
photoshop confirmed
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 3:33 PM MST up reply actions
ahahaha, if only
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 22, 2012 3:38 PM MST up reply actions
Sitting seventh row at the game today. I should be on TV.
I’ll be hanging with the man in the yellow hat.
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I just z'd all over the latter half of this thread.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 22, 2012 4:39 PM MST reply actions
Mueller..?
What is up with Mueller? I thought he was day to day and on his way back basically.. There is nothing on if he skated or anything.
We might be distracted
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
He practiced yesterday apparently made some hits even. He and Gali both played as though they werent in pumpkin jerseys. I’d guess its any day now injury wise, realistically they will probably keep both on IR until monday to give them roster room to make moves, then activate them and send guys down when the auction is over
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 22, 2012 4:46 PM MST up reply actions
Really?
Who the hell would want any of the left over forwards we have? I think we keep Cody Mac and DVG for sure.. the rest can go.. Porter and Subasew..
Anyone else having problems with GCL?
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 5:07 PM MST reply actions
No, I was trying to get any game up. (I was trying to watch the Caps game), wouldn’t let me even into the Bruins thing. I watch more than just the Avs. I get my money out of GCL.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 5:10 PM MST up reply actions
I get your money out of GCL, too
<3
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 5:29 PM MST up reply actions
<3
LOL, so you are saying i shouldn’t change my pw!? ;)
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 5:32 PM MST up reply actions
Please don't!
I use it in the middle of the night mostly. Plan on watching some Downie tape later this week
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by A.J. Haefele on Feb 22, 2012 5:38 PM MST up reply actions
LOL
I wouldn’t do that to you Darlin’.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 5:40 PM MST up reply actions
You could change her pw
THE COLORADO AVALANCHE HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP. RAYMOND BOURQUE: A DREAM COME TRUE!
Now that’d be mean.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 5:41 PM MST up reply actions
I’d cry.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 5:48 PM MST up reply actions
I never knew what Mose looked like until that pic on Dater’s blog… Not really what I pictured…
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I love Mose.
Seriously. Nice man. Funny man. No bullshit.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 5:42 PM MST up reply actions
I love him too. I just pictured him, idk… younger?
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Really? He’s exactly what I thought he would be. Such a sweet man, my “Can we meet up” turned into a long convo shooting the breeze with hockey talk. It was fantastic. Hell, he told me in Denver that Yip would be gone soon. lol
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 5:45 PM MST up reply actions
He looks older in that pic than in real life.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 22, 2012 5:59 PM MST up reply actions
Very much
he’s not old, at all. And he’s rather handsome too. IMO
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 6:00 PM MST up reply actions
at least I have something in common with him, cool
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 6:04 PM MST up reply actions
Question
Who runs the place over at anavalancheofstats.com? That’s the only place I can find total shooting (a travesty imo) and it hasn’t been updated in a little while.
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
I know it's an MHH'er, but I don't recall who.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 5:50 PM MST up reply actions
if you see Sacco go over the boards don't be surprised because........
Breeze is headed to the game. I’m there, Downie’s there, Old Time Hockey baby!
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 5:57 PM MST reply actions
Bob McKenzie went on record to say the most sought after role player will be Winnik… interesting, I wonder what he’d fetch.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Nooooo :'(
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 6:00 PM MST up reply actions
I'm SO not surprised though.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 6:01 PM MST up reply actions
Depends on how sought after role players are at all
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Very, by playoff teams, at least.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 6:03 PM MST up reply actions
What playoff teams might be looking for a Daniel Winnik?
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Kevin Toews, Jon’s brother who plays in a beer league maybe!
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 6:06 PM MST up reply actions
Luke Schenn = streakiness of Quincey with less talent and more physicality, his performance this year has really soured him on me tbh
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
I was joking, regardless of what we think of him he’s worth a lot more than winnik. NHL guys said last night all the teams Toronto may trade with want him as part of a deal. He’s pretty young still and it takes about 7-8 years to develop a d-man.
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 6:06 PM MST up reply actions
I feel bad for him
His lady friend is less than impressive.
I have a feeling he had to sleep on the couch because of me.
It's all about Winnik
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 6:07 PM MST up reply actions
Winnik is more valuable in his role than Schenn is in his, imo. Everybody has a Luke Schenn
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
he is 22, picked 5th overall, 6.2, 225lbs. I don’t think they have given up on him if ya know what I’m saying
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 6:10 PM MST up reply actions
a 2nd for him and that’s a done deal for me
by the cool breeze on Feb 22, 2012 6:08 PM MST up reply actions
yep
the manly tears though, the manly tears….
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
Pass
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 22, 2012 9:42 PM MST up reply actions
Have fun CB
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 6:13 PM MST up reply actions
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