Daily Cupcakes- The Day after the Steve Downie and Kyle Quincey trade.
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 4:00 AM MST
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The Globe and Mail reported on the trade, with a bio of each player.
"Our organization believes that Steve Downie will add grit and skill to our lineup offensively," Avalanche general manager Greg Sherman said in statement. "He plays the game with an edge, and we look forward to seeing the immediate and future impact he can bring to our team."
Tampa Bay also made an additional deal involving minor league forwards with the Chicago Blackhawks, obtaining Brendon Segal for Matt Fornataro.
Piche has been assigned to the Florida Everblades of the ECHL. Segal will join Norfolk of the AHL.
The Hockey Analysis blog has some numbers, for those interested in stats.
Steve Downie was traded from the Tampa Bay Lightning to the Colorado Avalanche today for Kyle Quincey (who was later shipped to Detroit). I featured Downie in a post I wrote on the weekend about mixing toughness with skill and how having a big, physical winger can make a skilled center more productive, especially a smaller skilled center. Downie did this with Stamkos, St. Louis and to a lesser extent with Lecavalier. The beneficiary of Downie’s toughness in Colorado will be either Paul Stastny or Matt Duchene.
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Like Theo Fleury, Sheldon Kennedy has become an advocate against child abuse. However, he isn't feeling particularly confident that Graham James will face jail time - even with pleading guilty.
You know, Graham James is going to walk -- again. That's not right."
Kennedy said that in the community of Swift Current, Sask., in the early 1990s, population 20,000, many people knew something was amiss with the high-profile junior coach, but nobody spoke out.
"There was a lot of people that knew what Graham James was doing in that town, but didn't have the confidence to act on their gut," said Kennedy.
"We've come a long ways and I think the justice system, this bill, is going to bring up to speed kind of where we've come in society in the understanding of these issues."
His testimony was just part of a day of hearings that largely focused on the child sex offence provisions in the new legislation.
Bill C-10 includes new offences, such as providing sexually explicit material to a child and arranging through telecommunications to commit a sexual offence against a child, along with more than a dozen new mandatory-minimum sentences for other sex crimes.
And finally, here is the link to this weeks' suspension vs concussions list.
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By the way…do I save the MST3K reference for the game thread?
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Maybe the preview thread.
The reason I'm in town, in case you're wondering, is because of a Kansas City Shuffle.
by Randy Time on Feb 22, 2012 4:55 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Preview thread. We should MST3K it today.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I still like the Steve Downie trade.
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by Randy Time on Feb 22, 2012 4:56 AM MST via Android app reply actions
The Hockey analysis piece is interesting. It’ll be interesting to see if the avs pair Downie with Stastny and whether that makes much of a difference.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 22, 2012 4:58 AM MST reply actions
I actually thought of you when I saw it. And I wondered what your take on it would be.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 7:23 AM MST up reply actions
It makes me feel a little better. Usually when people like a guys toughness I tend to roll my eyes a little. stuff like that usually doesn’t translate into actually being a better hockey player, and sometimes it causes guys to be mistake prone.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 22, 2012 7:49 AM MST up reply actions
By the way, looking at the picture at the top of the thread, I really like Tampa’s jersey
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Don’t think they wear those anymore. Their new darks are pretty sharp though.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 22, 2012 6:24 AM MST up reply actions
I’ve talked to quite a few Tampa fans since yesterday and it’s a mixed bag for them as well. No one is ecstatic at Downie leaving, but there are some that are happy with the return they got. There are plenty that are upset with losing Downie. If I had to put together a consensus, I’d say most fans are happy for the pick, but underwhelmed they had to lose Downie for it or at least would’ve preferred to keep Quincey over the pick.
Re: Downie, heard “reformed” tossed around a lot. Wondering how much Downie’s reformed ways were due to him playing under Guy Boucher and how they’ll hold up under Sacco.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 22, 2012 6:29 AM MST reply actions
Does Downie dress tonight? Somewhere in the long trade thread yesterday I saw a reference of us waiting until Friday to see him
No, I’m pretty sure he dresses tonight.
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I would guess so, but we’ll see Quincey again Saturday.
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by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 7:24 AM MST up reply actions
I took that comment as they only subscribed to game center and the game tonight is being carried nationally in the US and Canada?
I miss Wilson’s hips
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That might have been me saying that we have to wait until Friday to hear the Altiboobs’ opinions on the trade
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by Pyotr09AVS! on Feb 22, 2012 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
The Avs are currently carrying 25 players.
Gali and Mueller are on the IR, but judging by what people are saying, they won’t stay there for long. We need to make room on our roster for them – who do we move?
D – Johnson, Wilson, O’Brien, Elliott, Hejda, O’Byrne, Hunwick
C – Stastny, O’Reilly, McClement
L – Duchene, Landeskog, Olver, Gali, Porter, McLeod
R – Hejduk, Jones, Downie, Winnik, VDG, Kobasew
If we were going to do it through sending people to the minors, unfortunately I think Olver and VDG will go back down because they aren’t waiver eligible. If we try to send down someone like Hunwick, McLeod, or Kobasew, I think someone will take a chance on them and pick them up off waivers.
However, Sherman has switched into trade mode, and we all know how he gets once he does that. Do you think that we’ll see a move to open up some roster space over the next few days?
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McLeod will probably go to healthy scratch land. And the Avs won’t trying to send down Koba or Hunwick.
If they plan on using Downie top 6 (which it sounds like) I doubt Olver stays, and VDG, well he’s gone back to looking like the AHL journeyman he’s always been
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Tough luck for Olver, but it’s hard to see where he’ll fit. Especially once Mueller comes back. Kid has earned his chance for a longer try and won’t get it.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 22, 2012 6:52 AM MST up reply actions
This makes for a tough lineup puzzle, for now and when Mueller and Gali come back.
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by MalachiConstant on Feb 22, 2012 6:51 AM MST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure VDG is waiver eligible at this point too, unfortunately. I don’t think anyone will take him though.
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he has been his entire stay with the Avs
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 22, 2012 8:14 AM MST up reply actions
That hockey analysis article is eye-opening. It fits with the Stewart and Stastny situation too. As well as Landy and O’Reilly. Maybe this is excatly what Stastny needs.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
It made me stop and look at him a bit more in-depth anyway.
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 7:26 AM MST up reply actions
Raw Charge had some player quotes.
“It was a tough day for a lot of us, you know? To come to the rink and find that out. Downs has been a warrior for this team. He’s gonna be missed because he’s got a great personality. He’s always in the mix. Always a lot of laughs with Downs. He’s a heck of a hockey player. He always played with a lot of heart.” – Martin St. Louis
“It’s the business of hockey sometimes. It’s not always pretty and we don’t have control of it. He was a great friend and a great teammate and just wish him the best of luck and move on the best we can. I think we were able to do that with a big win tonight.” – Steven Stamkos
http://www.rawcharge.com/2012/2/21/2815349/game-59-anaheim-ducks-at-tampa-bay-lightning#comments
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 8:35 AM MST reply actions
Does anyone expect anything different though? I mean look at how many teammates came out the same after the reports of how bad a teammate Quincey was…they denied it and all said they would miss him. Hardly anyone will call out someone in the media
2011-12 Colorado Avalanche: Ruling the East, but bending over for the Northwest
Sure they’ll say he’s a good guy, but the “always a lot of laughs” , the personality and the warrior-ness aren’t the “needed” response. I think Stamkos’s answer is just your typical one.
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 8:40 AM MST up reply actions
Ports
A few others said goodbye to him via Twitter… a bunch did not.
It's all about Winnik
"Hockey just never stops, It’s like rock ‘n’ roll — it’s relentless." - Alice Cooper
by Sandie Gauthier on Feb 22, 2012 8:41 AM MST up reply actions
And a bunch of Tampa Players didn’t say anything about Downie. It’s easy to try and read into this stuff…but as with Anderson, we will never truly know.
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Fair enough. It’s whatever.
Sherman got an established player for a promising, yet very disappointing defenseman. The only reason he was even worth that much is the fact that there just aren’t enough sellers on the market and the availability is super low.
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I’m not arguing the trade, just the “bad teammate” speculation that is going with it. THough I’m not “arguing” that either…just taking blanket statements and turning them into blanket statements the other way
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On what planet is 5’11 190lbs a big NHL player?
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by Hardshell_Taco_del_Lowayne on Feb 22, 2012 12:20 PM MST reply actions
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 22, 2012 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
The planet in which Ryan Stoa is drafted by the Avs.
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