O-Doze - Avs Lose Yet Again to a NW Team, 1-0 to Minnesota
by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 3, 2012 5:56 AM MST
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Sorry for the delay on this one - the great SBN network blackout last night prevented me from getting the job done. Oh, and you know who also didn't get the job done last night? The Colorado Avalanche offense.
For the 9th time in 11 games, the Avalanche failed to score more than 2 goals. In this case, 2 goals would have won the game. 1 goal would have at least gotten them a Bettman Bump. No luck. Instead, Nik Backstrom turned aside all 37 shots and the Avalanche offense - you know, the one that didn't hasn't needed any high priced acquisitions in the last couple of years - was shut out for the 5th time this year. The Avs fired 75 shots toward the net. Some were blocked, some were missed, some were turned aside. All were futile.
The frustrating lack of offense is frustrating because the Avs were solid defensively all night long (again), allowing just 20 shots on net and J.S. Giguere was his normal self, turning aside almost everything he faced. His only hiccup came early in the first period when a weak Greg Zanon wrister from the point meandered through traffic and found the back of the net. So ends the scoring summary for the night.
The Wild made a number of questionable hits on Avalanche players, like Devon Setoguchi on Paul Stastny, Cal Clutterbuck on Ryan O'Reilly; I could see an argument on both plays as to whether they were a penalty...but either way they looked cheap and the Avs really failed to step up and do anything about it. It wasn't until Darroll Powe leveled David van der Gulik on another questionable play (the only one to get an actual penalty) that someone finally answered the bell - heavyweight Chuck Kobasew. Kobasew ended up with two fights in the game and Cody McLeod would later tangle with Clayton Stoner. Those were the only two with any sort of pugilistic propensity. Everyone else just seemed to put their head down an look the other way when their brothers were getting pushed around. I know this team isn't built for blood feuds, but there are players who could - and should - have stepped up to put an end to the questionable stuff.
I would have also accepted "scored a retaliatory goal or two" as an answer as well. No dice. Amazingly, the Avs have lost 4 straight in a tight playoff race but have barely lost any ground. That doesn't make me feel any better about the Avs' chances this year. 2.38 goals per game (and falling) just isn't going to cut it...especially when you lose to one of the few teams that scores less.
- Gigure
- Landeskog
- Kobasew
- Galiardi, Stastny, Mueller
- Landeskog, O'Reilly, Hejduk
- Porter, McClement, Winnik
- McLeod, van der Gulik, Kobasew
- Hejda, O'Byrne
- Quincey, Johnson
- Wilson, Elliott
- Landy had 6 hits
- Quincey led the Avs in shots with 5
- Jay McClement was 9 of 12 in the faceoff circles
Woohoo - another NW team on Saturday (Vancouver). Yay for us!
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All shots were futile, because barely any of them tested Backstrom…lots of perimeter shots, and the Avs just don’t have the big bodies to get to the net for rebounds.
It’s getting uglier.
2nd half Avalanche hockey…live it or sleep through it
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
yeah, the Minny guys were raving about him but I thought he had a relatively easy night
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 3, 2012 7:00 AM MST up reply actions
There were some good shots, but he did possibly prevent a goal with his blatent delay of game infraction. That went uncalled.
To be fair, if Giguere did that, I would probably be applauding him.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Justin of GG said it was perhaps the best game he’s seen Backstrom play in years.
I think I’m with you and Chi on this one.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
but but but…we should have won! our corsi! our fenwick!
shot quality matters. this team is the polar opposite of the ’09 team in that area.
Perhaps a text book example of a game to rebuttal the mantra that shot quality doesn’t exist.
I'll keep this brief.
imo, the “shot quality doesn’t exist” argument is just shy of completely retarded.
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Well, there’s opinion, and then there’s years of research using actual numbers.
by DiD on Feb 3, 2012 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
Doesn’t stop the creationists and no-greenhouse-effect people, why should it stop hockey fans?
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I believe the shot quality thing is based on player shooting percentages (correct me if I’m wrong here). And I totally get that, and the numbers behind it. But,
As I’ve said to Jibs before, years of research and numbers is great, and I respect that, but it doesn’t mean a good goddamn on a game by game basis. Which is, you know, how the game is played. The Avs getting a boatload of shots last night may translate into wins over the long haul, but guess what? Through this years long haul, a) the avs have generally gotten a lot of shots, b) they aren’t scoring many goals, c) they aren’t winning a lot of games.
I like using shooting percentages as an indicator of who is hot or cold and how they may reasonably eventually get better or worse. The reason why I don’t like the shot quality argument is that it equates an on-the-doorstep-goalie-out-of-the-crease-empty net chance to some scrub clearing the puck on the PK and it just happens to go on net. That’s dumb, and all the “years of research and actual numbers”, however condescending they may be, won’t change that.
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I thought “shy of completely retarded” was overboard. Just saying that there’s the eye test for certain games, like last night, then there’s the longer range theories that were formulated over the course of many years.
by DiD on Feb 3, 2012 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
not to mention retarded is quite a harmful term, but that’s besides the point. I don’t know how I feel about shot quality, mainly because of goalies like Budaj who can make big saves on “high quality shots” but then give up shitty goals on “low quality shots”
Wise men wonder while strong men die.
As I said, I understand and respect the longer range theories. I just don’t happen to think they are of any use for the short term, and the very use of “small sample size” by their proponents should prove that well enough.
I personally think “shot quality doesn’t exist” could be considered as “overboard” as “just shy of completely retarded”
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Oh, and you get to pick the tone of the discussion you want to have. If you decide to drop “just shy of completely retarded,” then you might expect a certain tone (condescension, in your opinion) in return.
by DiD on Feb 3, 2012 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
It’s actually quite hilarious hearing that from you.
I’m sorry that some people have a problem with the word retarded. I don’t. /shrugs
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Usually people are only affected by it if it has directly affected them or a close friend or family member. It’s normal to not be offended.
Wise men wonder while strong men die.
It’s affected a person very close to me. I do not care. Nor do his parents. The parents say they usually find that the people offended by the word are the ones who, as they put it, “think people should be offended.”
But, people see things differently.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
The parents say they usually find that the people offended by the word are the ones who, as they put it, "think people should be offended."
Or people who have watched kids use it in the most cruel ways to classmates who are not disabled but just have a low IQ.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
I’m not personally affected by it and it offends me. Most people I know would be at least put off by it.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 4:38 PM MST up reply actions
Be ready. I’m going to send you this so you can see just how much you mean to me.
by DiD on Feb 3, 2012 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
I’m sorry that some people have a problem with the word retarded. I don’t. /shrugs
Yet you do with “Ginger”, different strokes for different folks eh?
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 4, 2012 12:55 AM MST up reply actions
then you might expect a certain tone (condescension…
You speak in other tones besides condescension?
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
by amit916 on Feb 3, 2012 6:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Glad I missed most of this
And this is all I have to say about this.
I have never said that shot quality doesn’t exist, it’s that it’s way way way overblown.
For example By my count the Avs had 10 legitimate scoring chances (on 37 shots, which is slightly lower than an average of 1 in 3, but well within a standard deviation)
The idea the Avs didn’t get any quality shots is… ahem… just shy of completely retarded.
But I do believe that when a team is in a scoring slump, legitimate scoring chances don’t feel like good ones.
Maybe
Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time
by Jibblescribbits on Feb 3, 2012 10:14 PM MST up reply actions
God they need Duchene back.
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Duchene will not solve any of this teams offensive issues right now. He may add a goal or 2…but everyone from top to bottom simply looks lost, and the infusion of Duchene isn’t nearly enough to cure it
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
I disagree. He adds anothre dimension. Take last night for instance, (this is completely hypothetical) his speed could create some turnover, odd man rush, chances that would spread the Minnesota D. Plus, his speed and if he’s on his game will cause Minnesota to monitor him more. Factor is good. So is Landy. So is Stastny. But none of them make the other team worry every shift. Duchene does. He disrupts their strategy and can cause some mayhem. Perhaps not his shift, but he can get other teams running around which opens up other players.
I think, even when he’s off his game finishing wise, he may be the biggest piece (or one of the biggest pieces with Factor and Johnson) for this team.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Until Stastny, Hejduk and the other “top 6” start scoring…I just don’t feel Duchene will be an overall help. He will help, don’t get me wrong, but I still don’t think it will be enough for the Avs to start winning games consistently
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
Unfortunately, I agree with Chia. They don’t have enough punch up front to do jack or shit against most teams in their division, much less the conference and Spin Cycle won’t change that.
Not.
A.
Playoff.
Team.
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by Mike @ MHH on Feb 3, 2012 7:57 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Does anyone have any more info on Hejduk’s disappearance. I think his scoring has completely dried up of late and I saw him with a couple of awful turnovers last night. He is just playing horribly
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seemed like Sacco sat him a bit in the 3rd before he resurfaced late. he and Mueller were also swapped a lot of the game
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 3, 2012 8:10 AM MST up reply actions
I think he got old, I watched him and SoS at the game, Stastny looked fine, but hedjuk couldn’t fight through any check, and I mean any of them.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:15 AM MST up reply actions
my theory is that he would be much better with stats than radar and he lost on that line, it’s obvious to me. Bowman, er, scaked-co can’t figure that out. Also, when dutchy comes back put mueller and duke with them and all but guarantee they will score some. he’s out of whack on the line with landy and radar, he needs the cycle and creative guys to play with..
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 4:37 PM MST up reply actions
Disagree. Hejduk looks slow, he’s not making any useful contact with the opposition, and his shots seem to find shin guards and skates. I haven’t seen him sitting on the back door waiting for a rebound for a long time. I think he’s reached his “sell-by” date.
OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd
I agree he’s not Orr but if they get anything out of him that’s the best chance.
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:17 PM MST up reply actions
he’s out of whack on the line with landy and radar, he needs the cycle and creative guys to play with..
Cuz he wasn’t at all a part of the reason that line was lighting it up earlier this season when no one else was.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
That’s irrelevant. Your comment is that Hejduk cannot play with guys like O’Reilly and Landeskog. However, he has already proved that he can this season.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 5:33 PM MST up reply actions
Nope. That’s as far as I’m going with that one. However…
Hey Breeze,
Could you show me what site you used to determine that Cameron Gaunce has been in the minors 6 years? The last I heard, you were calling him a bust because his many years in the AHL has shown he can’t hack it at the NHL level.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 5:46 PM MST up reply actions
He doesn’t answer questions either, I’ve been waiting at least two weeks for him to tell me what sport he has ever coached in his life.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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Um… they “lit it up” for like 3 games… he’s been ice cold since then.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Since being named Captain, Hejduk has scored in 4 games…
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Goals. But what about assists?
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
there’s no question, Duchene is BY far their most explosive offensive player, no one else can create, esp. 1 on1 like he can. that doesn’t mean they score 5 goals a game but he would also make the depth on the top 2 lines so much better and special teams.
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 4:35 PM MST up reply actions
Duchene really doesn’t improve our 5 on 5 play, but he can make a big difference in situational play, particularly 4 on 4’s, pp and the shoot out, where he is excellent. I don’t think Duchene is the single answer to this team’s woes, but he’s certainly the highest end talent of the Avalanche forwards. Late in a stagnant game, I’d rather have Duchene, than not. If we’re down a goal, or tied, he’s someone the opposition certainly must be wary of. He was really good for stretches, last season, and although I’m one who saw thinks he’s not yet a solid NHL player, based on lapses, questionable decisions, turnovers and inability to hold the puck, he is a talented player, who can pressure the opposition more than any other player on the Avalanche.
...holy freaking f*ck, snakes!
Inability to hold the puck? The guy has the slickest hands on the team
I here that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good
by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 5:25 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
The Avs don’t have one dynamic offensive player like Duchene. Any he gets the puck in space he can make things happen
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 7:48 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
If you want the games in December, when the Avs were winning, even though Duchene wasn’t racking up points, the goals seem to come after his shifts. A lot. To me that’s because he creates a pace and creates mismatches.
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yep, watching Heatley last night I was thinking “man, I wish the Avs could have one guy like that”
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 3, 2012 7:53 AM MST up reply actions
Duchene is our guy like that, except much less of a douche than Heatley
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 7:57 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
more of a duche
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 3, 2012 8:01 AM MST up reply actions
The Avs likely have a much higher goals per game with Duchene than without, but even when he isn’t necessarily producing himself, he still creates energy and gets teams running around.
Mission 48.3 Accomplished!
by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 8:03 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Now I am starting to wonder if they will make a trade. Probably not a huge one, but just something that shakes up the excitement.
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What excitement?
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by Mike @ MHH on Feb 3, 2012 7:58 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The need a top 6 winger and someone who plays angry.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:09 AM MST up reply actions
Or in other words, Chris Stewart. But when Dater speculates trades, they usually don’t happen
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 8:11 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Why would we want Angry Chris Stewart? So he can get pissed for his one or two games as season, break his hand, and then fail to crack the top 6 of the St. Louis Fucking Blues?
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I agree if you’re going to trade for a former avs winger get Ryan Smyth at least he comes to play and shows some leadership.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:16 AM MST up reply actions
he hasn’t come to play lately. I feel like the other night he may have been on the third line.
Wise men wonder while strong men die.
My fantasy team agrees. He’s been a no-show since November.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I added him, right before he went cold, and dropped him a week later, still gave me about 3 pts that week.
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Still Smyth>Stewart
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:21 AM MST up reply actions
If porter could shoot he’d be a star in the league. Unfortunately he can’t.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:24 AM MST up reply actions
Also,
If Porter was big enough for most of the rides at Magic Kingdom, he’d be a star in this league.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Also I’m just about $905000 away from being a millionare.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:26 AM MST up reply actions
Closer than me. Children are a vacuum that only sucks up money, patience, and the will to live.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
well that’s if I sell everything I have too and go without food, shelter and clothing.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:28 AM MST up reply actions
I couldn’t go without food. Shelter is a toss up and clothing is a burden.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Not to mention laundry…little humans make big piles of laundry
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
I’d actually be happy if they made a pile….most of the time their clothing is strung from one end of the house to another. You never can find that matching sock.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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I didn’t know you had kids, Mike.
Couldn’t agree more with your comments ;-)
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I shouldn’t bitch. I’ve got two great sons. But the oldest’s aim in the bathroom could be better and the youngest needs to learn more words than “uh ohhh”.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
That was my youngest son’s favorite word for about 6 months, now it’s “uh, uhhh” or simply “no”
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 3, 2012 10:00 AM MST up reply actions
It’s the only word G knows other than “Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa”. He’s one. Vocabulary is still a work in progress.
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You have a long road ahead of you if the first words your son learned was “Uh oh.”
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
Correction: First words his MOTHER taught him.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
The words you taught shouldn’t be repeated by a 1yr old?
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 3, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
My youngest is 21 months, so he’s nearing the terrible two stage (actually I think he’s started that stage early).
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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by Americanario on Feb 3, 2012 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
if porter could do the above things he would be a non-scratch
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 4:41 PM MST up reply actions
HORSE is DEAD but Ray Whitney (if he can be had for a 3rd or 4th) would make a huge difference.
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 4:40 PM MST up reply actions
Can anyone explain to me why I am not watching Sheriff Shanahan discuss the ban on Powe today?
I haven’t seen a cowardly, cheap-ass, lowdown punk move like that since Matt Cooke’s previous incarnation.
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That’s just the way it is. They’re so damn inconsistent about what is suspendible and what isn’t
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 7:20 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Silly me, I thought the “Wheel of Justice” era was over, but I guess not. That’s the 2nd “Holy Shit” non-suspension I have seen involving the Avs.
The other one was when fuckface boarded Wilson, giving him his latest concussion.
Kevin Porter gets suspended for four games for an accidental knee-on-knee and it was his first penalty of the year and he’d never been suspended before.
If it’s an Avs player on the receiving end, well, good luck with that. We are currently standing 1-2. (Sutton’s attempted decapitation of Landeskog being the one successful ban).
"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin
The Torres elbow to the face of Hejda should have been more than a fine
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 7:46 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
And how many times did an Avs player get hit from behind into the boards last night? I counted at least two.
Where’s that Matt Duchene guy when you need him?
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 7:18 AM MST via iPhone app reply actions
Not even on skates. This is going to get uglier before it gets any better
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
Do you really think that, Chiavs? That this season will go the way of last season with something ridiculous like 5-22-2?
"Wisdom requires a flexible mind" - Dan Carlin
I don’t think it will get that bad, if they let it happen again, almost everyone minus the core will be gone
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 7:50 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don’t think it will be THAT bad, but…the Avs are already 4-7-1 since the official halfway mark, and 2-12 against the division, the same division they will see a lot of the rest of the way
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
I agree with you. the only difference this year is that these losses (Anaheim, Edmonton, Minnesota) were not blowouts like last year. They played great, they just couldn’t finish or didn’t start on time. I know a loss is a loss in the standings, but when forcasting future games, these losses are not as bleak as the losses last year.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
All 4 losses on this current slide have been one goal games; at least they’ve been in the fight.
Still sucks though…..
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
Footer: We'll miss seeing you clear the riff raff off your lawn.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
As cool breeze (your bestest buddy) says, “Not on the scoreboard”.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Is 6whores and cool the new Dan and Bob?
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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No. We haven’t put Old Dan and Bob out to pasture yet.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I will get AJ to ban me if that becomes true.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
You won’t have to. I’ll slam that hammer down with the force of a thousand Norse Vikings long before Halfawaffle gets NEAR the red button.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
The button is red?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Kind of a maroon-ish hue. Little sparkles of a deep blue with silver highlights. It sighs like the spaceship doors in Hitchhiker’s Guide whenever you push it. Then a little breath mint pops out of a door next to it to complete the experience.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
sounds like you don’t want to be buddies? hurts my feelings, esp. after I bought the Dalmore you recommended. guess I’ll have to drink some right now to cheer myself up!
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 4:46 PM MST up reply actions
I just bought the Glenmorangie 18 as a birthday present to myself. Now THAT is some cheer.
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nice! I’ll try that next, $75 for a 750? how does it compare to Dalmore 12 or have you not had that?
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:20 PM MST up reply actions
If you can get it for $75 I got ripped off. Store I was at had it on sale for $99 down from $155. I like the Dalmore 12 but it’s quite different. They both have a honey taste and that’s about the end of the similarities for me.
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ha ha, it is true though. only 1 stat that matters!
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 4:44 PM MST up reply actions
It won’t be that bad. I think they’ll continue their .500 ways but that will put them firmly on the outside looking in come game 82.
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I think they’ll get more than 74 points. Their possession, shot differential, and defensive play is not indicative of teams who have finishes with fewer than 80 points over the last few years. I don’t know if they’ll have a chance to get 91 unless the offense wakes up without Duchene and explodes when he comes back.
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I’m a lawyer. I can’t do math. .500 would put them at 84 points. Yeah, I can see that.
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My condolences.
I can’t do math.
You poor dear. It’s a widespread calamity that doesn’t get the attention it deserves. I hear Susan B. Korman has some extra money laying around. Maybe they’d fund some charities for such a deserving cause?
.500 would put them at 84 points.
Only if you round up. That’s pretty optimistic at this point.
Yeah, I can see that.
I should hope so. Not sure how you’d cope being blind AND unable to do math.
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My condolences.
I can sue you.
You poor dear. It’s a widespread calamity that doesn’t get the attention it deserves. I hear Susan B. Korman has some extra money laying around. Maybe they’d fund some charities for such a deserving cause?
Math doesn’t matter. It’s not like I have to monitor bankers all day. They never use math.
Only if you round up. That’s pretty optimistic at this point.
If you look at the ebbs and flows of this team, a December like surge in March would put them near there. So it’s pretty realistic.
I should hope so. Not sure how you’d cope being blind AND unable to do math.
Douchebag.
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I am glaring in your general direction.
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rabble rabble rabble fire sacco rabble rabble rabble he can’t score goals rabble rabble rabble or make saves rabble rabble rabble or make the refs make calls because he doesn’t yell at the refs (even though McLeod did it all night) rabble rabble rabble.
Wise men wonder while strong men die.
I’m not sure McLeod’s mouth ever stopped last night. He seemed to be yapping at someone all night long.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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Avs need more guys like that
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 3, 2012 8:12 AM MST up reply actions
I definitely think he was missed last night
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 3, 2012 8:31 AM MST up reply actions
Nope, that was the net that was missed last night.
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by Mike @ MHH on Feb 3, 2012 8:32 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
He would have been on Powe’s back before Kobaru got the chance
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 8:33 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think so too.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
Today’s offensively offensive stat of the day
The Oilers scored 8 goals last night. The Avs have score 9 goals in their last 5 games.
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
You just wait until they play an East coast team.
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Carolina is coming up and pittsburgh I believe.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:24 AM MST up reply actions
We have the Canes and Jets within the next week or so….
Pens, Sabres, Devils, and Rangers in March
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Thanks for everything Foppa!
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Naw, we’ll win them all. Don’t ask me how we’ll do against everyone else, you don’t want to know.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:27 AM MST up reply actions
NW struggles?
The Avs have been shut out 6 times this season.
Opening night against that one team…0-3
Nov 17th 0-1 @ the Wild
Nov 23rd 0-3 against the Nucks
Dec 6th 0-6 @ Canucks
Jan 7th, 0-4 by St Louis the night after the Avs beat Chicago 4-0
Feb 2nd 0-1 against the Wild.
So 2/3rds of their scoreless contests have come against NW division opponents.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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Avs will be looking to score their first goal of the season against the Nucks
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 8:12 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
that= why sacco should be fired (for one)
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Hejduk is done, he couldn’t fight through any checks and looked like he was going in slow motion. Stastny looked good with some jump in his step but it just didn’t go in. If the game looked chippy on TV, that was nothing compared to what was happening in person, there was slashing or hitting behind the play every time it went the other way. Elliot isn’t big enough to check, I haven’t looked but if they haven’t they’re going to have to shield him from any defensive zone starts. The mild just wanted it more. The avalanche are going to have to see if they have it in the budget to replace Hejduk and bring in another winger. Hopefully someone that plays angry like Mcleod and O’brien (the only two guys that do) but with talent.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:14 AM MST reply actions
I specifically remember Elliott using his body to take a man away from the puck when he was rushing in. I was surprised. He will never have the size to push a man off the puck, but to slow them down and maneuver the puck off of them will still work.
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So his defensive upside is Brett Clark? He’d better keep scoring.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:19 AM MST up reply actions
I’d like another Clark type shot block on this team
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
Anton Volchenkov
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 8:26 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
That was in the third. I recall that too. He’s essentially a speed bump on the rush.
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Elliot is strange, but if you go back and read the post game comments from last year, you will see the same things said about Shattenkirk.
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why would I do that?
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:25 AM MST up reply actions
more traffic for us?
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 3, 2012 8:32 AM MST up reply actions
still sounds like effort.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 8:33 AM MST up reply actions
So, I don't usually complain about the refs
Or DDC. But someone is wrong here, (and guess who it is? Not DDC.). Kobasew only had one fight. Yes, you read that right, one. His first fight? Yeah, that got called as 2 for interference and two for roughing on Powe, and a double minor roughing on Kobasew. WTF? Thanks NHL, for making me try to explain that one to my friend who was watching her first NHL game in years. Trying to explain to her what constituted a penalty and what did not was even harder as the game wore on.
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yeah, that was pretty ridiculous. it was definitely a poorly officiated game.
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 3, 2012 9:02 AM MST up reply actions
Someone posted (I forget who) that when Duchene went down and Quincey came back, the Avs would start getting fewer power plays. Sure looks like it’s true.
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Duchene has the speed to draw plenty of penalties…. This team misses him more than everyone realises
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He’s always in the top of the league in penalties drawn, IIRC. The problem is our PP isn’t that great either.
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it doesn’t really matter if you’re not getting them anyway.
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by An Unmitigated Disaster on Feb 3, 2012 9:54 AM MST up reply actions
But, but it’s top 10 in the league and 1st on the road (at least that’s what Altitude posted the other night)
Upon further review the PP is 9th in the league and 3rd on the road.
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The Avs will get one more shot per game on the PP?
Though I think I have found Hejduk’s problem. He leads the team in PPG at 6 (half his goal totals). The Avs aren’t getting power plays, so Hejduk isn’t scoring. Maybe
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
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by Americanario on Feb 3, 2012 10:02 AM MST up reply actions
I posted this exact same statement in a thread about 4 days ago. Even if he isn’t producing, he’s drawing penalties or drawing defenders away from other players because people know who he is.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 3, 2012 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
I put up a fan shot on it. Quincey’s penalty plus/minus is the worst in the NHL. Duchene’s was one of the best. You got one guy coming back from injury (Quincey) at the time when the Avs were winning. You have another guy leaving (Duchene). It’s been proven out over the last month without Duchene that the Avs are not getting PPs. Quincey is still going to the box just about every game but as a whole the Avs aren’t taking a ton of penalties outside of him.
I'll keep this brief.
I’m appalled that last game, everyone player ran out and made no comment, and what happened after last night? Only a handful stayed… of those handful, only Radar/Landeskog/Giguere made comments…
Shocking? No, at this point, those are the ONLY brightspots on this frustrating team. There’s nothing to be held accountable for… from ownership right down to the players.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Record vs. Eastern Conference
12GP, 10-2-0, 20Pts
Win : 83.3
Games Remaining: 6
Projected Remaining Wins: 5
Total Projected Points: 30
Record vs. Central Division
16GP, 8-6-2, 18Pts
Win % (combining 2 OTL into 1 W): 56.3%
Games Remaining: 8
Projected Remaining Wins: 4.5
Total Projected Points: 27
Record vs. Pacific Division
11GP, 6-5-0, 12Pts
Win : 54.5
Games Remaining: 5
Projected Remaining Wins: 2.5
Total Projected Points: 17
Record vs. Northwest Division
14GP, 2-12-0, 4Pts
Win : 14.3
Games Remaining: 10
Projected Remaining Wins: 1.5
Total Projected points: 7
****Total Projected Points: 81*****
Good news is that the Avs look to be doing better than last year by a lot. They’re well above .500 against 25 of the 29 teams they have to play. But the bad news is there is no way in hell we are making playoffs unless we can figure out how to win about 6 of our remaining Division games. Going 6-3-1 shouldn’t be impossible, but it’s looking highly, HIGHLY unlikely.
We’re not going to make the playoffs this year. We might next year, especially if realignment goes through, but this season, we’re pretty much done.
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So they essentially need to add 5 more wins on top of that to hit what is predicted as the golden number? Ugh.
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If we go about .500 in our division from here on out, we’ll stand a chance. But it’s not looking so good.
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Yep. Even if they approve the realignment with the new CBA, the league is already making the schedule as we speak (if not already done). The only changes next year will be which Eastern teams the Avs play.
Datsyuk may have done it first, but he learned it from Peter Forsberg.
Thanks for everything Foppa!
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This team has shown that they’re extremely streaky this year, and its all about getting hot at the right time. If they can stay about .500 from here until when Duchene gets back, and have a March similar to December, they could stand a chance to sneak in at 8th.
(Takes off Burgandy rainbow hat)
But if the losing ways continue, and the team completely falls apart, there is no Gabriel Landeskog waiting for us at the end of the tunnel, and we could really screw ourselves over
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We need more Landeskogs.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
need a couple more Edmonton-esque tanks
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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Feb 3, 2012 9:57 AM MST up reply actions
Well, we’re heading in that direction right now …. what’s that …. oh fuck!!!!!!!
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 3, 2012 10:00 AM MST up reply actions
He was INTENSE last night. He might not be Forsberg, but I’ll take Landy on my team any day. Too bad he couldn’t get one to fall last night. He seemed to be doing just about everything else right, including killing penalties by himself.
I like Rycroft’s new nickname for him: The Swedish Bull. Very fitting. Although Den Svenska Tjuren (Google Translate) might be more appropriate, even if it is harder to say.
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I thought last night was one of Landy’s best games yet
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by Cole D Hamilton on Feb 3, 2012 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
Sadly, he is one of the few guys we have that fights back (and he does so within the rules of the game, unlike the fucks on the Wild) in a game like last night’s. Kobasew and Cody being the other two. Actually, I thought Quincey had a nice game as well.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 3, 2012 10:20 AM MST up reply actions
I really hope he picks up the scoring… that was always the knack on him…. not enough top end skill… but he’s obviously super young blah blah, won’t know how well he scores for years.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I remember Landy having one really Duchene-esque burst of speed coming down the wing, I think once he gets more confidence his offensive numbers will get better
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That was a HELL of a hockey game! Fast-paced, chippy, hitting, fighting, tension, and some amazing saves.
It’s too bad the refs were absolutely terrible and tried to ruin it single-handedly. It’s also too bad we didn’t score and that we lost.
That was an example of a 1-0 game that was really a nail-biter.
I felt a level of inevitability watching that game. AJ and I talked about it during the game. He thought the avs would get back in it with some flukey goal and win it. I thought we were a mortal lock for a 2-0 loss with an ENG for the proverbial kick in the balls. I called sometime early in the third and re-visited it with just under four minutes left. It damn near came true to the second with Minny’s first miss from 200 ft.
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The last 10 minutes of the game was how I’d like to see this team play all the time, but, you know, against a team that doesn’t obviously spend three hours a day practicing clearing shots that go from their goal line to the opponents blue line without fail.
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To beat a dead horse
That was the worst officiated game I’ve seen in quite some time. And 90% of the blown calls, mostly non-calls, were in favor of the cheap pukes wearing forested cougar heads. Clutterfuck seems to hit people well after the puck is gone with regularity. Never gets called. And the even up call on Powe-Kobasew was the biggest joke I’ve seen in a long time. You don’t reward a guy for a cheap fucking shot like that, completely away from the puck, by evening it up. Gutless, horrible, ridiculously inept officiating.
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Cant really say to much beyond what already stated. I do want to make a few points.
1) The part that gives me the greatest hope was how there was about 6 Avs players that broke there sticks after the game was over, Including Radar who not only broke his stick but he broke it about 7 times and left the debris on the ice. The Boys wanted this win and were pissed they did not get it. I know this does not mean anything but for the first time I see a team that had emotion. This gives me some hope. Doesn’t mean they will do anything about it next game but I sure as hell hope it does.
2) This offense is awful. Ganger had an incredible game last night, but he was involved in almost as many goals against a great Blackhawks team than the Avs had in the last 5 games. WTF. I can count on Radar, Landy, and a solid effort of Winnik and VDG. Mules has been solid in the few games he has played. The Duke is awful, Jones has lost his mojo, and Duchene is hurt. That is our best three goal scores from last year. The rest of the team can have a good game then be non-existent for a few weeks. I don’t know who is responsible but someone needs to be accountable. I think a part of the offense wows is the inability the draw penalties. I think there has been some bad officiating, especially last night. However, this is a nightly routine. There is a 20+ difference of us being Shorthanded over having the man-advantage. We need to fix that.
3) I have to give some props to the Avs Defense. I thought they have played very solid and they are putting up an many points as the embarrassment known as our forwards. Giggy is down right unbelievable.
4) Back to the offense. The 6-4 on the end of the game. What the hell was that. How could you let the Mild get control of the puck the entire 6-4. You have two more skaters on the ice. The only ones that had the puck for the Avs were the Defense. What a joke!
5) Landy was the best player on the ice last night.
6) The Mild has officially surpassed Detoilet on my hater list. What a bunch of bitches. It is a whole team of Drapers and Holmstrums.
7) All in all, the game was fun to watch, other then the loss. I would have liked one of the Avs to run Faulk through the boards, Last night was a good game to get a 5 minute and a suspension Porter. I doubt they would have called it, because they sure as hell didn’t call it for us. Have we been the benefactor of a 5 minute Major this year?
Offense was turrible. Reffing was turrible. Hejduk was turrible. Landeskog was not turrible, radar’s forecheck was not turrible, giguere’s save (you know which one) was heart stopping. When kobasew and mcleod are among your top forwards, though, you are turrible.
I’m not typically savvy enough for sacco criticism but GEE WHODA THUNK A GAME AGAINST THE FUCKS WOULD GET GNARLY I KNOW WHAT TO DO THE AVS WILL BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT NOTED PUGILIST SHANE O’ BRIEN
At least SBN was up long enough for us to have each other?
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 3, 2012 10:22 AM MST via Android app reply actions
what an infuriating game. we’re seeing the product of valuing hard workers and good guys over pure talent, and stressing hard work as the solution to all our issues. we. can’t. score.
its doubly frustrating because this team is less than the sum of its parts. we have tons of good pieces, but no finishers and thus our team sucks. sure am glad we’re a cap floor team!
add to that whatever it is about this team that the other teams in the NW (Sacco, play style, players, whatever), and we’re headed squarely for another playoff miss. congrats Enos, Sacco, Sherman, PL and everyone else: the Avs have a losing culture. and that’s the hardest thing to overcome of all.
Teams typically have a losing culture while rebuilding. It takes time, this off season will be the time to bring in those missing pieces (including a goaltending coach). If we made the playoffs we’d be dangerous, because we are such a hard working team. Many many more goals that are scored in the playoffs are dirty, hard working goals, THAT’S what wins you a cup. It takes time, be patient. Edmonton is in year 6ish of their rebuild, maybe more, we are in year 3. In year one we were better than them, in year two we were better than them and in year three so far, we are better than them (in the standings of course).
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 3, 2012 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
We can’t score dirty goals against edmonton and fuckasota in february, what makes you think we’ll do it in the playoffs?
PLAYOFFS???
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 3, 2012 10:38 AM MST via Android app up reply actions
Once Radar and Landy get a linemate that cares and isn’t burnt out, we will be better off.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 3, 2012 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
Um what… those hard working ugly goals are the ones we AREN’T scoring and are killing us… we aren’t crashing the net… all those perimeter shots are going to dry up in the playoffs.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
There were numerous times where there were piles in front of Backstrom last night. Muellers against edm? crashing the net. We crash the net fairly often.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 3, 2012 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
I don’t see them crashing the net that often….I was at the game last night and only a few times were there piles in front of Backstrom….there were many times that if they had crashed the net, they would have scored several goals….
"Hey man, don't bogart that puck."
oh there were piles in front of Backstrom, it’s just that they consisted of 4+ Minny players
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This is the key. MIN got up by a goal in the 1st and then just clogged the crap out of the net. I think they had about 10 guys in front of the net at one point.
OK Shermie, time to be the shepherd
i disagree. taking lots of bad shots is a grinder mentality run amok. hard work is not at all the issue.
I had a qualifier on that hard work! hard working goals… so there!
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
well, i think the goals you’re referring to are ugly goals. you get ugly goals from sustained offensive pressure. you get sustained offensive pressure from skill. not from tossing bad shots at net every opportunity.
hard work is something this team does not lack. that’s good. but it’s been overvalued. you must have skill too or you’re just a bunch of grinders throwing bad shots at the net because you can’t build a pretty play or beat anyone with your skill. that’s exactly what the Avs are right now: less skilled than everyone they’re facing. Duchene missing hurts, but come on. I’m coming to terms with the fact that this team is poorly constructed. minus Hejduk’s and other players traded/absent’s actual skill, we’re Barkley level turrible.
they’ve got until next year of rebuilding “grace” from me. rebuilds become suck at the 3 year mark. if this doesn’t get turned around soon, we will not be rebuilding, we’ll suck. just like edmonton or florida sucks.
and it can’t be another trade. we will just create another hole as large as the one we fill, there’s no depth or extra talent or system to replace it. Sign skill in UFA or suck. Spend or suck. Your choice Avs. This year though, it’s a total loss. I will not be surprised to see another end of season collapse, you can see the whole team panicking. At least we’ll be free of Sacco if that happens.
jesus christ, you must be my brother. you are exactly correct. We just don’t have the talent and what most people here do not realize is what you said. They either go all out in free agency and we haved the same team (or worse), no way around it.
I said that last night and it’s very important, they are squeezing their sticks hard and are totally fragile, afraid to make a mistake and it’s hard to win that way. AND, it has a lot to do with their recent history last year of collasping and to a degree IMO accepting losing.
Sacco has to go and it isn’t all b/c of his coaching, etc. It’s that they need a new voice who can instill confidence, change the message, etc.
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:02 PM MST up reply actions
So if a team is overachieving with little talent then Sacco should be fired?
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yes when they go into the tank at the most important point in season
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:55 PM MST up reply actions
They’ve lost 4 straight, and one of those 4 was a great game they should have won. Not quite a tank
I here that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good
by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 6:00 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
lololol
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 3, 2012 10:45 PM MST up reply actions
Sacco said he wasn’t worried about goal scoring in his post game interview. That seems a bit strange considering that has been the biggest problem the last few games…
Mission 48.3 Accomplished!
He also said if we play like that, we’ll win most games…the fuck?
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Giggy said that in his interview as well… I don’t necessarily think they played a bad game last night, maybe 2 or 3 goals against any team that doesn’t play a Minnesota style game
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I thought for the shot disparage we had, the scoring chances were that tilted between both teams
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
I know why you would say that but take a macro view. 37 so called shots that Hellen Keller could save, zero traffic, no PP’s to speak of, etc. They score zero goals against a no-name defense and a team missing 3- of their best players. That is a bad game. shutout at home? We are all drinking the kool-aid and we keep making excuses for them but they are losing to bad teams. mn has 2 road wins in last 13, guess who against? so, we are by that definition horrible
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:05 PM MST up reply actions
We will win most games if we play like that. We gave up 1 goal. We had numerous chances and just couldn’t capitalize.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 3, 2012 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
I’m tired of making excuses for this team… the team has run out… this is team is seriously looking at landing 13th right now…
if we did this… if we did that… the problem is we lose games like this, and then we come out and lay an egg next game and lose that tooo… end result, we lost both games.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
Edmonton is also starting to play better
I think 14th is within reason.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 3, 2012 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
When your owner straps you to the salary floor and makes you hump it until you’re dry, what else can you do?
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 3, 2012 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Totally off topic, but a topic I suspect you will enjoy
A group of Ukranian feminists protested the decision to hold the 2014 World Championships in Belarus…by holding a 2×2 topless hockey game in front of the IIHF headquarters.
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well, that’s one way to get attention in a male-dominated world.
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 3, 2012 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
Thoughts for new Owners
How about Mark Cuban? I’m not sure if he knows anything about hockey, but he, through the NBA, has shown that he is willing to go out and get the pieces he wants to make a Championship team. Thoughts?
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The only way a new owner will work, a real new owner not a transfer to Junior, will be if Enos sells all of his Denver area KSE holdings in a package deal. Even then, I’d want the new owner to have a passion for this area and a passion for hockey, neither of which applies to Enos.
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
by Bob in Boulder on Feb 3, 2012 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
What else is in your pie-in-the-sky wishlist, Bob? A cure for cancer? World peace?
So, your desire for a new owner is someone who has a) a passion for this area, and b) a passion for hockey. You left out c) enough freaking money to buy the team (and whatever else he’ll have to buy as part of the deal) and to keep the team funded well enough year after year to at least be in the hunt for the Cup.
Very specific list. Who ya got in mind?
You're Welcome Washington Watch
We’re still sitting at 20 overall, but almost every team below us has games in hand. Believe it or not, the number 2 pick is within reach!
We see a wonderful sun-soaked city nestled at the foot of the Rocky Mountains. Enos sees nickels and dimes.
Draft not that deep, according to Bob McKenzie
He just tweeted about this a few minutes ago.
by DiD on Feb 3, 2012 2:31 PM MST up reply actions
Didn’t he or someone from TSN say the opposite thing and this was one of the deepest drafts since the Crosby year?
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
There’s been a lot of talk to that effect going back all the way to last year. There have, however, been a lot of injuries to draft year players this year in juniors.
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Okay, I know the problem is lack of offense. I know he’s not going to fix that. But can we call the Bordello up, at least for the next Wild game, please?
The Wild have freaking figured the Avs out. If you cheapshot the Avs, it will get them off their game and they will forget about scoring goals. It works and it pisses me off. Especially since the refs just let it go.
So, at least for that one game, can we get someone on the ice that can scare the crap out of the fucking Wild enough to make them watch themselves. I don’t even care if the Avs win, so long as they send a message to the rest of the league that they can play those fucking games.
How does 4 minutes of ice time, a fighting major and a game misconduct send a message to the Wild that the Avs can play those fucking games? They played said fucking game last night (with Kobasew and McLeod) and it didn’t result in a win.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Exactly, barely skilled goons are on the way out
Goalie coach? We don't need no stinking goalie coach!
Did any of the Wild look like McLeod and Kobasew were changing their mind about boarding and taking head shots on every Avs player they could? If the ref crew would call the penalties then I wouldn’t make the suggestion. That is two games in a row that the ref crew did not call the game and the Wild took advantage of it both times. Why would they change their strategy for the next game, since it’s being rewarded both by the refs and the point totals. I wouldn’t. Trying the same damn game plan against them is insanity. Put Bordello on the bench and if the game gets chippy, screw it, double shift him with the top lines.
In other words, if they are going to lose by not scoring at all anyway, they might as well send a message. I’m not saying to go headhunting, but I sure as hell think the Avs need a way to respond when their players are being mishandled with no regard for the rules.
O’Brien could help with that. Bordeleau is a goon, and there isn’t much space for goons in the NHL today
Mission 48.3 Accomplished!
Bordy is not a goon. He is not dirty. He is, though, an enforcer, a role that is also on the way out in today’s NHL.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
Enforcer is basically what I meant by goon. Not dirty, but his job is to fight
I here that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good
That isn’t anybody’s job in the current NHL though. It’s a dying skillset.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I’m not saying to go headhunting,
Actually, reading your post that sounds exactly like head-hunting. Throwing your goon enforcer over the wall on half of the shifts isn’t a strategy that will produce goals, wins, or good hockey and therefore would not change anything. It seems petty to me.
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I absolutely am saying headhunting. One guy’s head. Lapierre. If he wasn’t such a chicken shit and actually answered the call to a fight, I’d feel differently. But you know he’s just going to skate away from Wilson when he tries to throw down.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 3:15 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, but after me you have the most rage issues among the staff, so that doesn’t surprise me!!
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
AJ is still on the staff. He has much bigger rage issues than I do.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 4:52 PM MST up reply actions
No. It’s not. If Minn’s players play clean then he skates in circles. If they don’t play clean then he does the job the refs and Shannahan are supposed to be doing. Admittedly, I was still apoplectic when I started this little discussion, but I certainly still think that’s Minnesota’s game plan against the Avs: Play dirty. Get them mad. Make them forget about scoring goals. The Avs seem to have no way to counter that. Given that the refs gave the Avs one freaking power play that wasn’t even a full two minutes in the entire game, I find that they are condoning the behavior. Given that the Avs aren’t scoring goals anyway—and, so, can’t counter the tactic through just winning the game—how else should they try to match what Minnesota is doing?
The only game I really want to see Bordy up for at this point is tomorrow’s game against Vancouver. 4 min of ice time, a fighting major and a game misconduct (he’s not dirty; wouldn’t happen) would be worth it if he pummeled the living shit out of Lapierre. Black and blue for a week. That’s what I want.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 2:50 PM MST up reply actions
It would be soon if they do…
Mission 48.3 Accomplished!
by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 2:29 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
for a player that plays as physical as he does, it’s surprising that he breaks so easily.
Wise men wonder while strong men die.
For those wondering about the deepness of this draft...
per Bob McKenzie
Based on talks with scouts re: 2012 draft class, won’t be surprised if 1st round picks used as trade currency in coming weeks. #draftnotdeep
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Reassuring …..
Mission 48.3 Accomplished!
by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 2:29 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Oh my god, it’s almost like Sherman and Pracey knew that.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Sorry for all the Sherman bashers out there, but I really think Pracey’s read on the skill at 10-20 was a big part of the Varly trade. If this was the 03 draft, or like it, no way does this trade happen in the same way.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I agree. And if you look back at the clause on the first round pick in the EJ trade, it shows the same thing. If St Louis did better, the Avs got a “better” 1st round pick
I here that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good
They got two 1st round picks total for 2011 and 2012. They just got their two the same year, in a better draft, in possibly the EXACT same position.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
the way it’s looking now, the Blues first round pick this year may be much much worse than what it was last year. The quality will be much lower, for all we know STL could have the 20th overall pick this upcoming draft. We got a steal at getting it at 11, thanks Stewie!
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Why doesn’t Sherman get any credit for that?
In a different scene, he could have had the 2nd in 2011, the 10th in 2012, and 20th (or higher) in 2012.
Instead he got the 2nd in 2011, the 11th in 2011, and Varly.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
where are u getting that 10th in 2012 and 20th or higher in 2012 from?
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I don’t know. I am exhausted. I got myself so confused.
If he didn’t trade it for Varly, it wouldbe what they have now and the 20th is St. Louis’ if they were in the bottom 10.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Alright, that’s what I figured, you’re allowed to be confused c6
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Let me start with my point first: Sherman knew what he was doing and that has a lot to do with Pracey.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
yep
it seems like they communicate real well. Sorta like Pracey tells Sherman which picks he is willing to give up since he is magical.
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and whether or not Rattie pans out. Both unknown entities, but both look good at this point.
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jr stats mean nothing, lower the points you have, higher you get picked. They look for intangibles like a nice smile, personality, gentleness and good dresser.
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:54 PM MST up reply actions
you are assuming that the pick is not top 10 tho, only problem with that theory.
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:11 PM MST up reply actions
I was just looking through old FB pictures. Remember this? Can’t believe how young Duchene looks!
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See I was gonna say he looked like a clean-clean shaven Sirius Black.
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that too, but I think his paleness (has to be the lighting or something) with how much darker his hair looks gives him Snape-esque qualities.
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I can see both now that you brought them up, but I definitely thought Snape the first time I saw it.
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nice!
he is just so different lookin
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 3, 2012 11:08 PM MST up reply actions
Sad that as many as 4 of those guys won’t be all about the A next year.
I really think T.J., Wilson, and Jones will all be joining Yip as “Former Avs” next season.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Wilson? You think he’s traded?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Yep. Completely replaceable on the FA market without injury issues.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
I agree, outside of his huge hits, he’s a run of the mill defenseman.
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But even his one above average trait (hits/physical play) have been severely curtailed due to concussion concerns. Not his fault, but when the only guys he puts in the wall are AHL players on injury call-up for the Oilers you gotta wonder if he’s as effective as we all remember him to be.
If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!
Don’t forget that it took him some time to come back mentally after the last concussion. I think he still has it and you’ll see it more as the season continues. Yes, that sucks and we need him to step up now, but that’s the way it is.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 3:18 PM MST up reply actions
Another totally OT article: College Student Suing Fraternity because he fell off a deck after a bottle rocket exploded in some guys ass.
The pic is NSFW otherwise I’d post it. It’s also pretty nasty.
(stick tap to David Jones for Tweeting this link.)
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Ugh, for all the good that Frats do, there are sure a lot of bad they do too.
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Ugh,for all the good thatFrats do, there are surea lot ofbad they do toostupid shit.
Fixed.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
In other breaking news:
Water is wet.
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: Chances are rapidly diminishing that this will not suck.
The Fuck?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
After seeing the one a couple days ago, I would have thought it was human error. But this makes it look a lot more like a problem with the clock
I here that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good
Then why does it not happen when there are 17 minutes left?
Sorry, but as Goldfinger says,“once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, but three times is enemy action.”
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
I just don’t see why anyone would think delaying 2 seconds at the end of a game where they are down 3-1 can significantly help the losing team.
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I agree, but still. Why would it happen at the end of the game and not in the middle of the 1st period. Or, at the end of the 1st period. Why the end of the game?
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Helene Elliott seems to think they have looked. Twitterverse has gone over it. But you’re right, it could have happened.
A man who stole my whisky used the defense that no one could resist a bottle of Scotch. I had no choice but to testify on his behalf.
Good idea to practice it before it really came in handy.
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by Bob in Boulder on Feb 3, 2012 5:01 PM MST up reply actions
I think this chart is applicable.
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by c6hor8 on Feb 3, 2012 3:51 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
And yet another OT comment…but I’m proud of my accomplishment!
Many of ya’ll are geeky enough to get this. Snowmen are so last year.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 4:36 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I wasn't in a bad mood before I saw this
but if I had been, it would have been EX TERRRMINATED
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 3, 2012 5:34 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Who
praytell, is that?
2011-2012 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: Vyechnaya Pamyat!
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It’s a DALEK. It’s from Doctor Who.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 7:58 PM MST up reply actions
This game is the first loss that’s put me in a real bad mood afterwards in over a year. I guess it’s because I feel like the Avs actually have something to play for…but that idea is starting to dwindle.
If the Avs beat the Nucks tomorrow, it will be the biggest win of the year. But to do that, they need to play the biggest game of the year
I here that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good
by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 5:28 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
The way it’s snowing, and if it continues like it’s supposed to, few people will be there to see it.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 5:34 PM MST up reply actions
I will be, stubnut has tix for $1.50. Sneak Mr. Flasky in and a cheap day.
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:36 PM MST up reply actions
holy balls
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
I was kiddin but if you have $9 you are set
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:42 PM MST up reply actions
that’s what they said the last 4 games and they shit the bed
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:36 PM MST up reply actions
If there’s any solace… it’s that the Avs have motivation, they havn’t scored or beaten the Canucks… etc etc… Avs shitting the bed and all….
And the Canucks have been thoroughly outplayed in the last two games… by Chicago and Detroit mind you… but still.
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
thx, but those stats didn’t exactly cheer me up. Scotch- where you at?
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 6:51 PM MST up reply actions
thoughts after reading all this
1. It’s blatantly obvious we are too soft and small up front. Landy, our 19 year old rookie is our best player last night and our best PF, that’s scary. We should go balls out for Bobby Ryan if possible, stats/quincey and a 2nd for Ryan. (our 2nd rd picks outside of Radar (almost a first) and Stas have SUCKED so who cares (Gaunce- I know Cheryl-he’s Orr in waiting); Stoa, lots others). Get Doan as next option
2. We HAVE TO go after Suter and Parise and try to get one of them. We have zero, zilch coming (anyone know our minor depth rating on forward?, 30th?). Plus, we need 1 rugged wing who can score.
3. No one has mentioned it b/c of his status/history but trade Duke, he’s a perfect trade guy (FA after season), will be sought after and we can still re-sign him b/c he wants to play here, if we want to re-sign him.
4. Sacco needs to be fired and he will be, I’ll say 5 more games which could be losses (nucks, hawks, canes, st louis, nucks again)
5. I need another scotch
If the organ-I-zation has any class they will only trade Duke if he wants to go.
The organ-I-zation has already said they won’t trade Duke unless it’s his decision.
I seriously doubt Duke is going anywhere…..
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understood, but as a 3 month rental and he comes back, why not? be a team guy :)
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:47 PM MST up reply actions
That’s three months that he doesn’t want to spend away from his family.
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Maybe not
I here that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good
by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 6:14 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Doan isn’t an option at all, he’s old and won’t help us much in the long run. Where did you get our depth at forward ranking (for the minors, I’m just curious).
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wrong, he’s got more goals than anyone on Avs, he’s 35 true but even as a third line guy he’s an INSTANT captain (and a vocal one which we NEED DESPERATELY), plays tough. and b/c of what you said won’t be too expensive hopefully for a 2 year deal, 3 if we had to.
I was asking for one, don’t know if it exists?
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:50 PM MST up reply actions
well hockeysfuture ranks total prospect pools, but I don’t believe it’s separated. I disagree, Doan can help us now, but we don’t need to give up assets to help us now, we need someone to help us in the future.
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what are we ranked. Agreed, I meant to sign him as FA, give up zilch.
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 5:57 PM MST up reply actions
sounds about right b/c we have a couple D and goalie prospects
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 6:01 PM MST up reply actions
where does St Louis rank, I’ll bet it’s high and same with chicago?
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 6:06 PM MST up reply actions
in prospects? St. Louis is at 6th, mainly because they have Tarasenko. Chicago is at 10th. Usually the better teams don’t rank high on this list because they usually pick later. For example, Isles, Oilers, Sens and Panthers (#1) are the top four. None of those teams, up until this year, have been good for a long time, and thus have a large prospect pool.
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The Sens have only had a couple bad seasons since the lockout
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 6:40 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
well last year they picked 6th overall (shoulda been 5th but lost the lottery), the year before that they had the 16 spot that was St. Louis’s (ironically Tarasenko), the year before that 9th, the year before that 15th (karlsson), and then the year before that was their actual good year where they picked 29th.
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So they’ve been a mediocre team ever since the cup run, but still, they’re in a different category than NYI, Florida, etc
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 8:30 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
That’s why I asked, I looked after I asked. Chicago re-loaded when they had cap problems after winning the Cup and had to unload some guys- BTW about 100 idiots on here told me what a “problem” they had, ha ha!, That’s why they have ammo for a trade this year too which they will make. St Louis is loaded and is going to be good like forever. Schwartz is the kid at CC, he’s flashy.
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 6:48 PM MST up reply actions
Schwartz is pretty good, but still only playing at college. Their goaltending needs to hold up, they got lucky this year with Elliott having a great year, I’d like to see how consistent he can be. Chicago lost their way into the playoffs last year, so it hurt them quite a bit.
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Halak still their main man so they are set and Bishop supposedly a stud in nets on the way. Hawks still almost beat nucks last year, don’t forget that. Plus, they are loaded again and who gives a fuck after you WIN a cup.
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 7:02 PM MST up reply actions
well they didn’t beat the nucks. so almost doesn;t matter, just like you say, almost winning doesn;t matter, it’s the two pts that matters. Halak is the man? that’s funny cuz Elliott was the all-star
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by ProfessorOak on Feb 3, 2012 10:58 PM MST up reply actions
Doan is a leader but...
How many players go to a team and become a captain instantly? No one comes to mind
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 6:02 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
he’s the exception b/c we have such a young team.
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 6:03 PM MST up reply actions
Doan has played for the same organization for his whole career. Trades are hard for the player in the first place, but when you’re expected to lead a team as soon as you walk into the room? I wouldn’t count on it
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 6:10 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
he fits like a hand in a velvet glove, esp. if Duke reitres or we trade him at deadline for Ryan
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 6:12 PM MST up reply actions
Trading Ryan for Duke makes absolutely no sense from Anahiem’s perspective
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 6:17 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
1. It’s been brought up before, alot. Is Bobby Ryan a PF? His 27 PIM have me thinking otherwise.
2. Suter is a rugged wing? Is Parise? Parise’s career high in PIM is 32.
3. It’s been mentioned before. A lot.
4. I’ll take that bet. What do you want to put on it?
I’m sure he wants to put $50 Thomas Bucks on it. Book it.
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First of all, no they wouldn’t take that. Sherm probably doesn’t want Stew back, and St Louis’ GM probably doesn’t want Square peg back
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by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 6:12 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
wonder what it would take? Maybe Jones and Duke?
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 6:29 PM MST up reply actions
We should throw in Stastny to make sure the deal goes through….
Paul Stastny did, what Paul Stastny does. Score big goals.
While we’re at it we’ll throw in Duchene and Landy
I here that Matt Duchene guy is pretty good
by patrit19 on Feb 3, 2012 6:53 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
all bullshit aside if they would take jones/wilson or like d-man, done
by the cool breeze on Feb 3, 2012 6:54 PM MST up reply actions
Why do you have such a hard on for Stewart? He has SUCKED this year.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 8:01 PM MST up reply actions
What I've been saying-from HockeysFuture
This is why they need to go balls-out in free-agency and why they also likely need to trade a D prospect and a player for another forward.
“there is an alarming lack of high-end talent across the board at all the forward positions, but most notably both the right and left wing position.”
But one of our top prospects, Hishon, would probably play wing.
Wise men wonder while strong men die.
What I’ve been saying-from HockeysFuture
That explains a whole bunch.
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by Cheryl Bradley on Feb 3, 2012 8:01 PM MST up reply actions
sacked-co
they should make him get a Big Ern McCracken perm if he loses to minny again. That would make me happy.
somebody post a picture of Big E, I don’t know how
I think you need more scotch
At exactly what point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise?
by SteveHouse on Feb 3, 2012 7:02 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Smalls?
I am boobs.
True Appreciator of the Dumba Train
by Thor the Clunge Destroyer on Feb 3, 2012 7:30 PM MST up reply actions
Worst part about this?
I had multiple people who I didn’t even know where Wilds fans trolling me today in addition to the ones I knew about. It was awful.
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
pft, tell them to eff off
Wise men wonder while strong men die.
by ProfessorOak on Feb 3, 2012 11:54 PM MST up reply actions
I live with one of them, am in a semester long group project with one of them, and just found out that one of them is in my studio. I also live next to four of them.
The Wild fans are EVERYWHERE!
Just a Colorado girl in Montana who ♥s the Avs and writes for Mile High Hockey.
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