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Pierre Turgeon Retires For Real

Finally, after rumors first surfaced back in June, Avalanche center Pierre Turgeon has announced his retirement from the NHL.  After 19 seasons, 1294 games and 1327 total points, "Sneaky Pete" has hung up his skates.

Considered one of the most cerebral professional hockey players of all time (think Igor Larionov but without the charisma), Turgeon earned the unfriendly moniker of "Tin Man" due to his apparent lack of heart on the ice.  Formulaic, hesitant and often mind-numbingly soft, Pierre still managed to put up impressive numbers on the ice for most of his career.  His unbelievable hand-eye coordination often compensated for his lack of other qualities found in most NHL players---like, say, guts and a backbone.

While he was a superb offensive player during the 1990s, his time with the Avalanche was anything but stellar.  In 79 total games (across two seasons), the fading playmaker managed only 53 points.  He spent most of 2006-07 sidelined by injury and should have retired years ago.

His career stats:

Despite overall point totals that would suggest a Hall of Fame induction, many in the hockey community are opposed to letting the Tin Man in.  He never won a Stanley Cup, has only one trophy (a Lady Byng) to his name and has no notable accomplishments in international play.  

Whatever happens, Turgeon can look back on a long, successful career and plenty of money in the bank.  And no matter what, he's still got a little piece of rubber at home with the number "500" scrawled on it.  Not many players can say that.

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Winning trophies is not an individual task as we all hockey fans know. Even individual trophies. You can't win Art Ross or Rocket Richard Trophy without teammates scoring and assisting. Turgeon has a an average of over 1 point per game, maybe he never had the right teammates to win a Stanley Cup. But you can't deny the offensive threat he was.

I won't talk more about him cause I don't really know him, being a "recent" hockey nut...

Almost 5,000 miles away... It's the Portuguese Avs Fan!

by LuisAvs on Sep 6, 2007 8:27 AM MDT reply actions  

Re: Hall of Fame

I agree with Luis. Hockey is a team game and for media members to hold never winning a cup against someone seems like a pretty weak argument.

Not sure if he deserves in or not, but that argument doesn't fly well with me

by Jibblescribbits on Sep 6, 2007 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Re: Hall of Fame

Unfortunately, that's how it goes.

In the hockey media's minds the difference between just a really skilled player and a truly great player is post-season success.  That said, sometimes it doesn't matter.  There's no doubt that Ray Bourque would be in the Hall even if he had stayed with Boston his whole career.  But with Turgeon, all he has are numbers---no personality, no great die-hard legacy, no notable anything other than some good statistics.

I think the odds are against him.  Hopefully for him I'm wrong.

by Joe Dunman on Sep 6, 2007 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

What I'll never forget about Turgeon

Was when Dale Hunter so viciously hit him from behind after scoring the playoff goal - hurting him and severely hurting the Isles playoff chances (even though he did come back in the playoffs).  Turgeon was celebrating and was caught totally off guard.  The end results weren't as bad as the Bertuzzi hit on Steve Moore, but it was just as cheap.

Side Note: As a Caps/Avs fan, I appreciated Dale Hunter as an agitator, but that was the low point of his career.  I was hoping he'd get a Cup when the Avs picked him up, but it didn't work out that way.

by thedope on Sep 7, 2007 7:06 PM MDT reply actions  

Re: What I'll never forget

Yeah, I remember that too.  It was one of the worst cheap shots in NHL history.  

In case anyone doesn't know what we're talking about, you can see it on YouTube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xte-V...

by Joe Dunman on Sep 8, 2007 5:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

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